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Dubious Iwobi-Atalanta link

| Monday, 09 August 2021 67comments  |  Jump to last
While Atalanta's prospects of signing Tammy Abraham from Chelsea appear to be receding, Italian transfer gossip site Tutto Mercato claim that the Serie A club are still looking at the Premier League, with Alex Iwobi a potential target.

According to reports, Iwobi is one of the players for whom the Blues will listen to offers this summer as Rafael Benitez seeks to reshape the squad he inherited from Carlo Ancelotti.

However, the report says that Atalanta would struggle to match Iwobi's €60,000-a-week wages.



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Robert Tressell
1 Posted 09/08/2021 at 18:50:17
Dubious is the word
Barry Thompson
2 Posted 09/08/2021 at 18:57:49
Tell em we won’t pay a penny over £5m - take it or leave it.
Shane Corcoran
3 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:00:14
I’ll take dubious.
Joe O'Brien
4 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:02:36
It would be like Christmas.
Alan McGuffog
5 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:06:29
If they take him then surely one of our American friends could flog them the Brooklyn Bridge
Rob Halligan
6 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:08:07
I think Colin Glassar must have seen this and fainted. He would have been all over this thread like a rash!!
Tony Abrahams
7 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:16:40
The kind of transfer that would immediately give Benitez about six days grace! Still can’t believe the way Everton, backed Silva after his first season, and think this is when Brands inexperience regarding the EPL, put us back a few more years, even after the Walsh and Koeman, debacle, with Iwobi still being a signing that is still to this day impossible to fathom.
John Kavanagh
8 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:20:26
Tutto Mercato = Total Bollocks. This must be a wind up thought up by some ex-RS hack. Unless, of course, Atalanta have a recruitment policy and scouting system as awful as ours. Fat chance.

Hope springs eternal though and tonight I'll dream of not seeing the name Iwobi on the team sheet for Saturday.

Alex Gray
9 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:31:44
I honestly believe there’s a talent in Iwobi somewhere. It’s not football but there’s definitely a talent!
Sam Hoare
10 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:38:30
If there were any truth in this (and there probably isn’t) it would be interesting. Atlanta has a superb recruitment department who do great work spotting talent in unheralded players. I’d not be too sad to see him go as he’s not done much but I feel he’s rarely been used correctly.
Tony Everan
11 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:39:28
One for the bulging, spurious rumour file. What next, Barcelona wanting to sign him as Messi’s replacement?

You never know though, we were daft enough to sign him for 27m so Arsenal have proven it can be done.

Christy Ring
12 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:40:14
Too good to be true, If they'd take him, throw in Delph for free.
Regarding the Financial Fair Play and how we're under severe pressure, our stadium income for a season is around £17m/£18m before covid, while the top clubs with the new stadiums, revenue £80m/£100m, mainly corporate, so they are allowed spend way more than us? Even though Moshiri has the money, we can't compete? Bramley - Moore Dock can't come quick enough
Jeff Armstrong
13 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:46:01
It’s a typo... it’s Atlantis that want him, they’ve seen him play in his lead laden boots, believe he can do a bit of diving and he plays like a fish out of water!😩
Derek Knox
14 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:55:39
Rob, Colin is probably driving him to Timbuctoo, or wherever the alleged Club are. Don't think too many will shed tears if it does come off !
Tony McNulty
15 Posted 09/08/2021 at 19:58:01
How many of us would offer to fly the plane, despite being non pilots?
Brian Murray
16 Posted 09/08/2021 at 20:03:59
I’d sacrifice myself as long as Kenwright was co pilot
Derek Knox
17 Posted 09/08/2021 at 20:26:12
Brian M, Pontius was a Pilate wasn't he ? 😜😂
Brent Stephens
18 Posted 09/08/2021 at 20:28:36
Derek, he was until he and his brother went into fitness training.
David Pearl
19 Posted 09/08/2021 at 20:31:14
Alex, 9
Its not quizzing.

Maybe if all season ticket holders agree to pay a quid a week towards his wages we can make it happen.

Tony McNulty
20 Posted 09/08/2021 at 20:31:55
Wouldn't we all get parachute payments?
James Stewart
21 Posted 09/08/2021 at 20:32:02
For the money, he has to be up there with our worst-ever signing.
Tony Everan
22 Posted 09/08/2021 at 20:34:31
I have looked into this and I can clear this rumour up. Dubious Iwobi is Alex's 16-year-old brother, he's off to the Atalanta football academy after his GCSEs.
Brian Murray
23 Posted 09/08/2021 at 20:38:22
Whenever I meet a Gooner, I always tell them they will always be my favourite other club because of Michael Thomas. A few have returned the compliment for us signing Walcott and Iwobi.
Andy Crooks
24 Posted 09/08/2021 at 20:48:13
Good post, Sam Hoare. The abuse Iwobi gets on here gathers momentum and is chucked in casually without much thought. It is unfair. As you rightly say he has rarely been used properly. He is not going to tear down the wing and plant a bullet- like cross on the head of DCL.
What he does have is the ability to make short passes in confined space and be available for a return, in short, retain possession to look to break down a team defending deep. This wasn't much use and was never required with the dross we were served up with in Carlo's latter days. Ordinary sides came to Goodison Park faced with the prospect of breaking down the home side.
Iwobi was never going to hitting teams on the break, if indeed this was the plan of the hapless Ancelotti. He will be a decent enough player in a different, not necessarily better, team. Unfortunately he is becoming a scapegoat for our inadequacies.
Like Sam, I hope he goes, because I can't see us being his sort of team any time soon.
Just another player signed without there seeming to have been much thought put into how he would fit into our style of play. Frankly, a style that has been unfathomable to me for some time.
Seems to me to have been a panic signing made for the sake of spending money. Like too much of our business for too long, a stab in the dark, throwing a lot of money and hoping to hit lucky.
Definitely not the fault of Iwobi.
Paul Swan
25 Posted 09/08/2021 at 20:53:23
People always ask what Iwobi's best position is? For Arsenal, the answer to that was whatever position he was playing the night our useless bastard scouts were watching him.

Worst signing ever? He's got stiff competition in Williams, Bolasie and Tosun.

Ray Roche
26 Posted 09/08/2021 at 21:07:57
Paul, best position?
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.
.

In the stands.

Soren Moyer
27 Posted 09/08/2021 at 21:15:34
Iwobi was Arsenal's retaliation for us selling them Francis Jeffers for £13M in the 90s... lol.

We are even now.

Pat Kelly
28 Posted 09/08/2021 at 21:43:36
Stevie Wonder must be scouting for Atalanta nowadays
Mike Gaynes
29 Posted 09/08/2021 at 21:51:28
Gasperini is an extremely smart manager, and it's hard to imagine he'd be interested in Alex, but as Sam says, Atalanta is a savvy scouting and recruiting club. If anybody could spot hidden uses for him, it's them.
Joe O'Brien
30 Posted 09/08/2021 at 21:51:43
Paul@25..I'd throw Delph into that group as well.
Brent Stephens
31 Posted 09/08/2021 at 21:55:14
Mike "as Sam says, Atalanta is a savvy scouting and recruiting club. If anybody could spot hidden uses for him, it's them."

Like selling him on for a BIG transfer fee to somebody like, er...!

Philip Bunting
32 Posted 09/08/2021 at 22:06:30
I just hope none of our players read ToffeeWeb..christ they must be depressed after reading how shite they are. No wonder there is no desire on the pitch, peeps on hear have them hung drawn and quartered. Me, I will stick to supporting those who put in the effort regardless of how shite they may look. Being critical to the point 👉 of abuse on this site for Far too long. Try support and encouragement, who knows it might just work for some players, think Gomes made that point when he first arrived.
Brett Jonathan
33 Posted 09/08/2021 at 23:36:16
Philip Bunting 32 - The players don't need support and encouragement. That's what the money is for,
Christy Ring
34 Posted 09/08/2021 at 23:50:44
Andy#24 As you rightly say it's not Iwobi's fault, a panic buy in the last few hours of the transfer window by Brands, when we were supposedly buying Zaha. I know you said he hasn't been playing in his proper position, he was playing on the left wing for Arsenal, when he got on, even they couldn't believe we paid £28m+ for a reserve who has been tried in a good few positions, but to no avail in my opinion.
Colin Glassar
35 Posted 09/08/2021 at 00:01:42
If this is true then, Allah Akbar!! God is indeed great.
Mike Gaynes
36 Posted 10/08/2021 at 00:16:21
Colin, to you this would feel like winning the League.
Colin Glassar
37 Posted 10/08/2021 at 00:19:14
Or having a fling with Pamela Anderson, in her prime, in Hef’s mansion, Mike😉
Mike Gaynes
38 Posted 10/08/2021 at 00:36:32
Colin, I was always more of a Barbi Benton guy, but yeah, I get your point.
Dave Bowen
39 Posted 10/08/2021 at 01:40:53
Paul @ #25.

Strangely enough, I was watching a video on Facebook today of Lukaku scoring a hat-trick against Sunderland. Bolasie put the sweetest cross onto Rom's head for the 1st. Always felt there was a player in there. Never the same after that awful injury.

Brian Murray
40 Posted 10/08/2021 at 03:19:00
Mike Gaynes post 29. It would really be a big gasperini and a whoop of delight if that Atalanta boss takes iwobi and helps us start our spending.
John Maxwell
41 Posted 10/08/2021 at 05:26:08
5 million and the deal is done and we give them the money.
Kirk McArdle
42 Posted 10/08/2021 at 08:04:23
Not that I believe this rumour at all, but Atalanta under Gasparini play a 3-5-2 with under-lapping wingbacks to support through the middle.

There were a few times the Iwobi played as a right-wingback last season. He could be positioned there under Rafa's favoured 3-5-2 formation as well?

Just a thought?

Colin Glassar
43 Posted 10/08/2021 at 08:26:55
I would pay Atalanta with all my life savings (£5.42p) if they would take this waste of a shirt.
Brian Williams
44 Posted 10/08/2021 at 08:44:07
Colin. I'd gladly make that up to a tenner mate. I'll also run him to the airport if you come along to make sure he doesn't escape on the journey!
Len Hawkins
45 Posted 10/08/2021 at 09:49:16
How is he at pouring a bottle of brown ale and balancing fried onions on top of hot dogs, shirley there is something he can do.
Mike Hayes
46 Posted 10/08/2021 at 10:12:03
John Maxwell can we give them the 5 million under the FFP 🤔
Mick O'Malley
47 Posted 10/08/2021 at 10:46:32
I feel sorry for him being made the whipping boy on here, you don’t play for Arsenal under Wenger the amount of times he did or get dozens of caps for Nigeria if your shite, “Carlo Fantastico “ had him playing left wing back and right wing back, he hasn’t had a decent run in the side in a settled position, we’ve got a lot of players worse than him
Mal van Schaick
48 Posted 10/08/2021 at 11:28:54
The owner wants the club to be competing for Europe and with the investment in players and the new ground he has shown his commitment to achieving this.

Unfortunately, previously appointed managers and Brands have left us with some players that will not come up to that standard. It’s not helped by the profit and sustainability rules which may restrict business.

We will just have to get behind what we have and see what Rafa can do with what he has inherited and what he can come up with transfer wise.

Jim Jennings
49 Posted 10/08/2021 at 11:36:02
Andy

You have a point but I think you’re being very generous to Iwobi. Regardless of what position he plays, his end product is next to nothing. Looks a fine player in the middle of the pitch but offers very little in defensive areas or the final third. He’s a microcosm of everything that has been wrong with our recruitment in the last few years.

Craig Walker
50 Posted 10/08/2021 at 11:56:57
I think Iwobi is the worst ever wide-player I've seen in my time and that's saying something after the likes of Alexandersson, Mitch Ward, John Oster, Idan Tal, Aiden McGeady...

The fact that we paid a huge amount for him as a panic-buy adds insult to injury.

I still prefer him to Delph though.

Soren Moyer
51 Posted 10/08/2021 at 14:56:13
Just read on Transfermarkt website that Everton paid £28M up front, plus up to £7M in additional fees!!! It's worse than I thought man!
Simon Dalzell
52 Posted 10/08/2021 at 15:52:22
Pound for pound THE worst signing during my 50 odd years watching. It was looking like Zaha and ended up Iwobi,and for 35 million. I will never get over that. Why would anyone want that bum,especially at the fee and wages quoted.
Danny O’Neill
53 Posted 10/08/2021 at 16:03:15
Mmm. We're a similar age, Simon, but for me, Ian Wilson sticks out.

Then remember Per Krøldrup. I think Moyes's mate who knew a scout who knew someone that had watched a 30-second YouTube clip said he would be okay!

Harsh maybe, just remember his 45-minute appearance at Villa Park.

Sam Hoare
54 Posted 10/08/2021 at 16:07:14
Some fresh rumours today that we are close to gazumping Celtic's bid for Antwerp right back, Aurelio Buta. Only £3M! I know nothing about him but sounds like he's rapid, great going forward but a tad injury prone. 24 years old. Intriguing.
Jerome Shields
55 Posted 10/08/2021 at 16:29:45
Disappointing.
Ray Said
56 Posted 10/08/2021 at 16:30:33
I am sure Iwobi has some skills somewhere well hidden but he can't run! He looks like he has Ccoc the Clown's shoes on or a pair of underwater flippers. You can hear the sound of his plates of meat slapping the floor over the sound of 35k fans screaming "Oh not him again!"

Surely the scouts must have looked at him and seen that he can't run, and so has a disadvantage in a running sport?

James Flynn
57 Posted 10/08/2021 at 16:43:08
Forget "ever", Iwobi doesn't come anywhere close to Schneiderlin as the worst signing, just since Moshiri took control.

And Philip (32) - If he read ToffeeWeb, I know one player who'd be delighted reading about Iwobi, Leon Osman.

"5 years too late, but finally my replacement as ToffeeWeb's favorite whipping boy!"

Mike Gaynes
58 Posted 10/08/2021 at 16:55:19
Amen, James. Compared to Schneiderlin, Iwobi is Sheedy-esque.

However, it's a bit harsh to describe Schneiderlin as a "bad signing" -- he was brilliant for his first four months here, probably our best player that spring of 2017, but came back in August unrecognizable. He was a good signing who went bad.

Robert Tressell
59 Posted 10/08/2021 at 17:11:20
Sam, I'm a fellow nerd about obscure footballers but, if Buta is on our radar, he's never been on mine!

Makes you wonder how he compares with Kenny, really.

Danny O’Neill
60 Posted 10/08/2021 at 17:13:41
Without making excuses Mike G, didn't he have personal issues?

Leon Osman. Never understood the sometimes contempt towards him. Very technically gifted. I used to say, had he gone to the continent, he'd have been a huge success.

And for those who like old boys at Finch Farm, as Tony Abrahams and myself have said numerous times, I'd prefer to see Leon Osman there over many we currently have.

Mike Gaynes
61 Posted 10/08/2021 at 17:28:50
Danny, not that I recall. In fact, Schneiderlin got married that summer and there were articles and blog posts describing how deliriously happy he was.

It was unseemly of me to speculate at that time whether the happy nuptials had sapped him of his incentive (or his physical energy!), but the fact is he was never worth a crap again on the pitch.

His dad passed away a year later, but his play had already deteriorated by then, and the next couple years were pretty dismal. I can remember only a handful of decent performances.

Here's a retrospective published earlier this year:

Morgan Schneiderlin: ‘Even if it was difficult sometimes, Everton is a great club with a fantastic fan base’

Lee Courtliff
62 Posted 10/08/2021 at 17:29:40
Agreed Danny #60. I always said that, if he played in France or Italy, then Osman would have been one of those unknown players we'd watch in the Champions League and talk about how technically gifted they were. He never would have been a superstar but good enough to catch your eye during the game.

Unfortunately, in the Premier League, he lacked the pace and power to stand out like a Gerrard or Lampard.

Sam Hoare
63 Posted 10/08/2021 at 18:53:20
Robert @59; nor mine, never heard of him till today. Nonsense probably though if true, it can't be that they're expecting him to be first-choice right-back straight away.
Raymond Fox
64 Posted 10/08/2021 at 19:15:54
Beats me why some seem to get pleasure in slagging players off.

Iwobi is the latest whipping boy: "Oh let's all join in and call him rubbish... many others are saying it so it must be right."

Well, it stinks to me. Does it make you feel better?

Danny O’Neill
65 Posted 10/08/2021 at 19:43:24
I think that's what I recall Mike, his Dad's passing. Maybe there was an illness building up to it? I honestly don't know.

Depends Lee. Had he been surround by better players would we have seen an even better player??

An outrageous comparison, but a smaller player than our Leon; David Silva. More renowned for his close control and technical ability than his size pace and power. De Bruyne; not particularly physical or blessed with pace. Players like that can cut it in the Premier League. In the right team, surround by the right players. In any league.

A bit like the James conversation we're having. You can accommodate and get more out of them if surrounded by by better players.

Credit to Leon. Being the type of player he was, he worked incredibly hard to feature regularly in a Moyes teams. Because to do that for a manager of that mindset and in the squad he played in compared to the 2 players I've mentioned, he showed the type of effort & determination I love to see now.

I just wonder would we have got more out of him had he been allowed to play more of his own natural game and had we used his obvious technical ability better more often??

Lee Courtliff
66 Posted 10/08/2021 at 20:30:36
He was wasted on the wing for years. Leon should have been played centrally or not at all as he didn't have the pace for a wide man.

I don't think he ever would have reached the levels of a KDB or Silva, even in a much superior team, but he was a talented player who didn't deserve the dogs abuse he got from some fans.

If our academy could turn out an Osman every year then we'd be one of the richest clubs in the league...because we wouldn't be wasting millions on dross like Delph or Schneidelin or whoever had one good game against us.

Lester Yip
67 Posted 11/08/2021 at 11:03:33
There are some teasing crosses that Iwobi had put in in the past (those with pace right in front of goals) but no one got on to it. It was the kind of crosses that you can see other teams forwards just slides and touch in. Not sure if it is his abilities but the understanding between players?

Not sure if Atlanta would pay good money. Might as well try to give him a stable position hope he turns good.


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