How other Premier League teams fared after moving to new stadiums

I stand to be corrected, Harry!

Lionel Messi to Everton, and he's buying the dock next to Bramley-Moore Dock and turning it into a helipad to airlift all the Blues to the game free, using giant military helicopters bought from the Argentina army (verified by General Coriander).

I shall keep TW updated with further new information.

Obviously Harry Diamond is not his real name, but a pseudonym, just using the same initials of Hill Dickinson!

Relevant? Just because it is not the Premier League?

They are all now Premier League teams who have moved to a new stadium.

Forget pushing onwards and upwards, I'll take an exciting mid-table finish right now.

Then, we can hopefully use the extra revenue from our shiney new stadium to step up and challenge for European places in the 2026-27 season.

Sorry, I apologise. My logical brain does my nut sometimes. Now where did I drop (..)

I left those sides out as none were Premier League teams in both seasons of the stadium change.

For Tony, Rob, Paul and more...

I'm quite enjoying the speculation around me but I can assure you all I am in fact...

1. The new editor of TW (who is happy to receive feedback on desired content...)

2. Very much a real person and do NOT use AI (will pretend I'm not slightly offended).

3. That is my real name.

Other than that, well done, Harry, interesting and well-researched article.

Sounds like a DCI in a police procedural novel.

'DCI Harry Diamond stubbed out his 20th Rothmans of the day whilst he surveyed the scene. He'd seen a lot in his decades in the Met, but nothing could have prepared him for the atrocity exhibtion he was staring at. It was simply inhuman....'

Just off the top I can think of Middlesborough. Reading, Derby County, Hull, Bolton, Wigan, Southampton. They all went for glory and saw top-flight football at their new stadiums before they slipped away.

No guarantees here!

I was just guessing wrong with regard to Harry being a robot, Paul H, but reading things like "could a change of scenery see a return to home comforts?" obviously made me think it wasn't written by anyone who had been watching us play at Goodison during the last however many years.

You wrote the article, Harry, but it stated that “We've” looked at how other Premier League teams fared after moving to new stadiums, whereas most humans writing an article would state “I've” looked.

Splitting hairs? Maybe, but I honestly don't think anyone really knows how we will do next season until we see how much the squad is strengthened during the summer.

Arsenal: tightened their belts for a bit and fell off the pace of the Champions League places. Now back in business.

West Ham: got a stadium on the cheap and completely idiotic club management let them down. Spent enough recently to be pushing for Champions League places but handled recruitment badly – and have since handled managerial appointments even worse. Current situation is nothing to do with the stadium.

Spurs: did well to stay vaguely competitive while spending on the new stadium. Have bought far too many players in scattergun fashion and forgotten they were supposed to be assembling a coherent squad. Weird massively underperforming (in the league) season has nothing to do with the new stadium.

Other clubs like Derby, Sunderland etc were all yo-yo clubs before getting a new stadium and have stayed that way since. Generally down to poor club management rather than new stadium.

The moral of the story is this: a well run club has nothing to fear from a new stadium – and should gain additional revenue to fund growth etc. A new stadium doesn't overcome the disadvantage of being a badly run club.

Harry surely can't be an Everton fan (doesn't necessarily have to be to do a decent job) – he referred to Chelsea as ‘the Blues' in a previous OP.

Me too, Liam #14, but it conjures up images of Arthur Daley or The Krays type of characters.

Wasn't 'he's a diamond geezer' one of Arthur's sayings?

The new stadium cost around £800M, somebody paid that out, there'll be interest to pay by some one somewhere. Moshiri got paid out / off too probably.

Generally Clubs struggle with New Stadiums, but Everton having Professional Managers in place should help alot. It is a blessing Moshiri the Chartered Certified Accountant is no more.

BMD cost around £800M, somebody paid that out, there'll be interest to pay by some one somewhere. Moshiri got paid out / off too probably.

Derby, Stoke,Coventry, Bolton etc could have maintained their status by simply staying as they were and been accused of being a badly run club. They wanted more. They struck out or glory and gambled. The cost of the stadiums have very nearly sent all of them to the wall.

Different for TFG. Somebody already paid for ours before they got here

Whst else tfg need to take out as part of their ownership isn't clear. Probably nothing in cash flow terms for a whole as they'll be investing in the playing squad and have their eyes on the dock next door.

I was really referring just to this season's form and hopefully to an upward curve next year, appreciate the home form hasn't been great for an extended period.

In terms of the 'We've', it's generally just something I've wrote when representing sites but it's been noted!

But Derek #26 says BMD cost £800M, so £450M has been paid for?

The numbers don't add up to me.

That would be a bloody good start.

He's just stepped into the blue equivalent of the Lions Den and new in the role.

He'll get to know us.

Michael will be sure to help him along.

I actually found the article quite informing, Harry.

Are you an East Ender, Harry? No offence meant

To all intents and purposes, it rendered the £475M Moshiri had already spent as a free gift.

The stadium will generate more revenue which will NOT be wasted by said clown show.

We now have a decent manager who, while we will often disagree with him, knows a bit about the game, got us into Europe and to Wembley 3 times. Plus he knows the club and he "knows" Everton.

We've got the whingiest supporters of any Premier League club – and I include myself – when we see the club and the team not pulling their weight. But those supporters are also the best in the Premier League, and the opposite is true, when they sense everybody is doing their best.

No players on any pitch in any stadium, new or old, will be better supported and encouraged than the boys in blue.

I rest my case.

It will layout the true assets, liabilities and the bath that Moshiri took.

We had an impresario and former actor who ran the club in the most incompetent and selfish manner for 25 years and only survived for so long because, in the eyes of many supporters, he was “one of us”, despite the obvious fact he was only a Blue in his own greedy head.

The "Evertonian" Paul McCartney, couldn't be at Goodison for the last swan song, but made it to Anfield over the weekend. Enough said.

I was actually glad we had that violinist lady and the Bill Ryder-Jones Band with it's rendition of Spirit.

Good luck Harry, I hope it works out well for you mate, although I’m beginning to think that it’s time that I tested myself, to see if I really am addicted to ToffeeWeb.

I don't think any of them really followed football. McCartney's links apparently came through his father.

They've been working 8 Days a Week.

Often wondered whether Epstein warned them off any allegiance so as not to alienate a section of fans.

When they said "Tell me why", they were just told "Because".

I think when you are that talented you really only have one focus in life.

If I had made it in the world of macrame, I don't think I would ever have found the Blues but an injury to my left index finger at a young age robbed the world of another genuine superstar.

I suppose it's a good thing that I can at least talk about it now.

His voice went a long time ago, it's like listening to next door's cat, only the cat is more in tune.

Always being told to 'Get Back'.

That's one thing Everton have lacked for years — a throw-in genius.