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I think I already know what the general reaction will be in the comments when this piece is published.
David Moyes is definitely not the flavour of the month among Evertonians. Even six or seven weeks on from that disastrous end to the campaign, there’s still a lot of frustration directed the Scot’s way. And, fairly so.
Moyes needs a strong start to the season; he, and Everton, can’t afford a poor run to get the 2026-27 campaign rolling. The pressure would be ramped right up, and serious questions would need to be asked of the club’s leadership.
If Everton could have got a standout candidate to replace Moyes ahead of this season, then I wouldn’t have been closed off to it. However, I’m relatively okay with the 63-year-old remaining in place, for next season, anyway — albeit, I would like to see him placed under proper scrutiny from those above him, and there needs to be a clearer sense of alignment across the board.
But I would not want Moyes to be in place this time next year, barring a clearly outstanding campaign and a shift in his methods towards a more progressive approach when it comes to blooding new or younger players.
And that could be a problem, not because my opinion counts for anything, but because as it stands, Moyes has less than a year left to run on his deal and there is no real clarity on what comes next, for anyone involved.
In theory, I have no problem with Moyes going into the last year of his deal, as long as it is soon made abundantly clear what the plan is. I trust Moyes not to give up or phone it in — something his predecessor, Sean Dyche, definitely did.
However, all parties involved must know the score, and the fans and media must, too. If not, then come November or December, the inevitable questions will arrive over Moyes’s future — more uncertainty.
Uncertainty kills progress. And what could be the impact on Everton’s transfer dealings, if players aren’t sure who their manager will be?
So, what do TFG and Angus Kinnear do? Do they wait until the last possible moment to make a call on Moyes, or do they hedge their bets?
Could TFG offer Moyes a contract extension, to cover themselves, but perhaps include a get-out clause? Now, that’s easier said than done — Moyes, of course, would have to agree to that, and why would he?
That’s where tough negotiators come into play; Nick Hammond, who has been brought in for this very reason. Take it or leave it, David, but this is your chance to secure your future, one way or another.
I’m not advocating for Moyes to get a new deal, to be clear. I would prefer him not to, but it’s also not great business for such a key figure to be entering the final months of their deal, and I could see the logic in Everton biting the bullet, as it were — they would have to be prepared, though, for some serious backlash, and maybe ask themselves whether it would be worth it.
If Everton start the season well, then perhaps that is when the club would pull the trigger. Give Moyes his extra year, or even just state that this will definitely be his final season, and give everyone clarity on the situation.
Uncertainty, though, can’t continue for too much longer.
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2 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:27:04
3 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:33:04
16th, that's where the team was when he took over.
He engineered a 13th finishing position from that base.
Only cost him £115 million to improve 3 places.
4 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:36:29
Sunderland came up with a squad of players who won the Championship playoffs, they added some players with no Premier League experience except for Xhaka.
Their manager trusted his players with no Premier League experience and they duly qualified for Europe while we were served up another shit sandwich, finishing 13th.
I'm done with being patient.
5 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:36:42
“It takes time and patience". He had that in abundance last time.
Eleven bloody years! Still the same old crap.
6 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:39:19
He returned with this 'developed ideas' rhetoric -- how he'd improved as a manager -- and yet the simple fact is he hasn't changed in any way. The Dithering Dave of 15 years ago is the same man in charge now.
I could take one more season if there is some sort of plan for development in place... UTFT 💙
7 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:42:28
The forum opinion seems very much to favour a younger more progressive manager, and if the changover had been this summer then two favourable candidates would have been available.
And that is the crux of it, who will be available and when do they have a say in the team building? Who could be approached early, how do you manage retiring Moyes, might we see a no purchase window in January?
The TFG business model looks solid, tick, job done. The club operations are in the best shape for decades, but as fans, with emotional investment, we want to see progress on the pitch.
Interesting season this next one.
8 Posted 18/07/2026 at 10:06:26
Why worry so much about an average, at best, manager? TFG and the people they have put in place to run the club are under scrutiny themselves to see if they are more than financially interested in the running of Everton FC— they should have been exploring who will be the best manager of Everton since they took over the club, they knew Moyes was only a temporary one.
9 Posted 18/07/2026 at 10:53:15
That's not a given though is it, they may be satisfied with staying in the division, I think it's 50-50 one way or another.
I'm neither for or particularly against Moyes, I've said umpteen times our biggest problem by far is that our squad quality wise doesn't measure up to the top teams.
It would be nice if that's the right word to have a different mindset but I'm not sure that would make us more successful, we have tried changing the manager with no effect whatsoever many times before.
I also can't see us spending lots of money this season if they think they may have to change the manager at the end of the season
10 Posted 18/07/2026 at 11:23:44
Even the women's team are selling their better players and replacing them with relegation cast offs on free transfers.
11 Posted 18/07/2026 at 11:46:50
I turned 60 years old this year and I honestly think I will never to see either England nor Everton lift another trophy and with Moyes in charge I thoroughly expect early exits form both cups and two derby defeats, I said at the time just get him in on a short term contract to get us into the new stadium but he is still here with his cautions over pragmatic football and meanwhile those across Stanley Park have one of the best young managers around it bugs me they get most things right when it comes to player and management recruitment and so we go into this new season with dour Dave and a mediocre squad, my guess is we will miss out on Europe again and reach the dizzy heights of 10/11th.
12 Posted 18/07/2026 at 11:52:18
13 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:17:53
14 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:18:17
15 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:31:00
Dyche got more points on the field of play in the season of the points deductions. Moyes spent £115 mill to get 1 point more thr season just gone, this season he rinsed and repeated the team in the last 8 games and gained no points. Safe from relegation not winning games yet changed nothing
As Enstien says " doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome is a sign of insanity!!!" sadly it appears insanity is becoming contagious.
16 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:34:24
Thats the point in a nutshell mate.
Anyone expecting him to change into a non scared, front foot, attacking manager is kidding themselves.
Along with his obvious lack of football adaptability I also consider him a complete phony as a man.
Sooner he's gone sooner the club can move forward.
17 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:38:41
His stubbornness drives me bonkers, and thinks he knows well better than any evertonian ever lived.
Ive said this before and ill say it again, he doesn't like us, and he more or less said it when he was at United, and also in his crass comment to Joe Thomas.
Chase the arrogant fucker or were getting more of the same this coming season.
18 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:58:45
I know Carsely has made comments in the past about being happy in his current role but if it's Everton and the chance to work with Moyes again he may be tempted.
19 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:05:15
20 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:08:35
21 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:09:56
22 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:11:28
Not the other way around then ?
23 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:13:53
Are you on the wrong club fan page? 🤷
24 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:23:48
Fuck him -- he walked away to go to Man Utd, and would not sign a deal and get Everton compensation... god, no!
He was brought in to do a job. He got well paid for that... so come on, boys, have some ambition for the future of Everton. No one else matters!!!
25 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:23:58
What you smokin bud?
26 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:27:25
I'll be shocked if he's still here after Christmas, but I think a tonking in the first derby will be the end of him.
27 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:42:25
Could it be sarcasm?
28 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:44:16
Obviously good gear! 😁
29 Posted 18/07/2026 at 14:16:43
With a pile of WUM in it!
30 Posted 18/07/2026 at 14:24:15
Boring football is his name of the game: Do not nr expansive, keep the ball at all cost, a point is a point!
Take the Scotland job and do us all a favour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
31 Posted 18/07/2026 at 14:25:37
Banal, mediocre, boring, stubborn, dull, stuck-in-the-mud. Get rid, get rid, get rid!!!
32 Posted 18/07/2026 at 14:39:38
He's been sacked five times, twice by the same club! Let that sink in!!
33 Posted 18/07/2026 at 14:59:25
34 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:08:41
He doesn't believe in youth... and his late substitutions are his worst trait.
35 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:30:45
If Moyes had the ability to embrace the modern game and play a more expansive game, that would be great. I along with others would really get behind him... but he can't change.
The Everton of Moyes is lacking in attacking nous coz in their minds are the instructions of Moyes. Keep possession at all cost.
In my advancing years, I yearn for some success with Everton -- with the added bonus of decent exciting attacking football. With Moyes in charge, that's looking decidedly slim -- though I do live in hope that TFG will invest in a modern forward-thinking manager.
36 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:33:46
Most never kicked a ball in their life let alone coached a player. Muppets.
37 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:36:46
38 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:44:22
39 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:49:12
Go on any Everton fan site you want, you'll get the same response: the man is a dreary non-entity.
40 Posted 18/07/2026 at 16:22:58
Defend the proposition. Of course we are a bit temperamental with the finish of last season and England out with a Moyesterful last 30 minutes of matchplay.
Can you tell us honestly that #19 was not a wind-up?
41 Posted 18/07/2026 at 18:26:56
Please make it your last post. as promised. I can assure you that I have played different codes of football from under-age to senior level. In terms of soccer, I coached different clubs and have attained badges from the FAI.
Incidentally, I coached at different clubs at senior level and won two league titles with different clubs. So, without bragging, I know what I'm talking about.
At the same time, I'm very respectful of the opinions of some contributors on here, eg, Dave Abrahams, who knows a thing or two.
We aspire for success with Everton but don't see the possibility in the short term; however, with a different style of play and encouragement of the younger players, we might -- just might -- see it in our advancing years.
TFG have invested in the commercial and back of house teams but need to make a decision about Moyes. Are they happy with survival or do they want success on the pitch also??? The jury is out on that one, lad.
42 Posted 18/07/2026 at 18:41:21
43 Posted 18/07/2026 at 19:54:39
I think Davie could give all of us a very long start and beat all of us by a mile in the negativity stakes!
44 Posted 18/07/2026 at 20:50:23
45 Posted 18/07/2026 at 20:53:18
But on paper, and I'm genuinely not trying to be controversial, Moyes has a much more impressive pedigree.
I just can't fathom that someone as useless as many ToffeeWebbers make Moyes out to be...could have such a long and rewarding career in the game.
46 Posted 18/07/2026 at 21:06:31
47 Posted 18/07/2026 at 21:19:35
48 Posted 18/07/2026 at 21:29:42
Yes I've seen that slogan many times on TW.
But Moyes took both Everton & West Ham to their highest ever finishes in Premier League history.
That's an achievement? No?
49 Posted 18/07/2026 at 21:37:42
50 Posted 18/07/2026 at 22:23:45
A sign of the demise of a once great club if so.
51 Posted 18/07/2026 at 00:52:59
We have a squad that isn't going to score more than 50 league goals this season, we'll still see more of the usual suspects at centre back (Keane/Tarkowski) We've brought in one championship player this summer and were told by that clown of a CEO it's a two summer window.
The club isn't moving in any direction. It'll be 13th again ole ole at best under this dour jock.
52 Posted 18/07/2026 at 01:10:24
What he has never really done is truly excel in his chosen career and that appears to be because he has a distinct ‘comfort zone when it comes to how he approaches the job.
I see exactly the same in industry, where people stay like limpets in their lofty positions because they just about know how to eke out ‘good enough.
Keeping DM is a sign of a distinct lack of real ambition and anyone that follows will first have to change the mindset of players he will have elevated because they were / could be moulded into risk averse plodders.
53 Posted 19/07/2026 at 03:31:31
More mind numbing, defensive, tactics using the same old, tried and trusted personnel. A decent result here and there but regular beatings from the so called top 6. Not to mention the derbies.
The chances of Dour Davie producing some attractive, front foot, football are pretty much zero.
Worst of all though, will be the vomit inducing statement from our leader when he informs us our mid table finish has been a good season with obvious improvement.
Of course he will not understand the fans being unhappy with yet another mediocre season.
54 Posted 19/07/2026 at 05:33:28
Club Manager / Head Coach Age
Arsenal Mikel Arteta 44
Aston Villa Unai Emery 54
Bournemouth Marco Rose 49
Brentford Keith Andrews 45
Brighton & Hove Albion Fabian Hürzeler 33
Chelsea Xabi Alonso 44
Coventry City Frank Lampard 48
Crystal Palace Pierre Sage 47
Everton David Moyes 63
Fulham [Álvaro Arbeloa](themag.co.uk ahead-of-2026-27-season-fulham-alvaro-arbeloa/) 43
Hull City Sergej Jakirović 49
Ipswich Town Gary O'Neil 43
Leeds United Daniel Farke 49
Liverpool Andoni Iraola 44
Manchester City Enzo Maresca 46
Manchester United Michael Carrick 44
Newcastle United Eddie Howe 48
Nottingham Forest Oliver Glasner 51
Sunderland Régis Le Bris 50
Tottenham Hotspur Roberto De Zerbi 47
55 Posted 19/07/2026 at 05:58:49
Contrary to some statements on here, and despite the fact I despise the man, I don't believe he is a shite manager. In fact he may well be the very best manager at delivering unambitious owners what they want.
Some will point out that he has stabilised our club. I actually think his kind of stability makes it impossible for the club to progress, and makes the next managers job very difficult. They have to unpick his rigid structure and if they go through a bad patch in doing it, people will say "careful what you wish for, should go back to Moyes" instead of giving the new guy a bit of patience.
But money talks and as yet TFG haven't shown the kind of ruthlessness they have with our Italian cousin. For that reason, so long as the wheels don't come off, I fully expect Moyes to get a new contract before Christmas.
56 Posted 19/07/2026 at 07:42:12
A tiny tad ameliorated dead slightly by the appearance of Derek Dolan who I think played for Wolves in 1968 and is a classic footy card chewy name from the time of Man About the House.
So sad that DD only fleetingly graced our lovely site.
RIP He will not be forgotten.
57 Posted 19/07/2026 at 07:46:26
A decade - decade - older than his nearest competitor. That says absolutely everything about Saint Daniel-the-Absent and Saint Anus-the-Silent and him.
58 Posted 19/07/2026 at 07:47:50
59 Posted 19/07/2026 at 08:17:07
Can we play two left wingers and two right wingers in our starting XI?
60 Posted 19/07/2026 at 08:48:51
I've met you and can vouch that you're not as daft as you sound in those two posts — behave and act your age!
61 Posted 19/07/2026 at 11:09:23
He got 11 games and they sent him to Ipswich in the Championship... Why would we want him?
Maybe Moyes sees him as a right-back... ha, ha.
62 Posted 19/07/2026 at 16:35:42
In the modern age of multiple Uefa competitions, these finishes would've seen us on a European tour virtually every season; as it was, we only had a handful, including our only [short] sojourn in the Champions League.
In the 2024-25 season, Moyes guided us out of a perilous position to a comfortable mid-table finish. In 2025-26 we were never in danger of a relegation battle, but rather in and around European spots for much of the season, before capitulating at the end to end up with just 1 point more in 13th once more.
That was of course disappointing, and he has to take a chunk of blame as the manager... but we do also have to realistically factor in the size and quality of a threadbare squad, limited budget, injuries, and the basic failure of players to perform at the expected level.
The reality is we can't afford to buy the very top tier of proven Premier League quality and so we have to take punts on youth, less glamorous folk, or less well know players from abroad. Sometimes that works, Ndiaye is an absolute belter, Dewsbury-Hall and Garner have been great, and Rohl looks decent. However, sometimes it doesn't. The likes of Barry and Dibling have (thus far) both failed to live up to expectation.
When the proven quality players we did have, such as Branthwaite, Gueye and Grealish, get injured on top of this, it's not hard to understand the struggles.
I note someone mentioned we'd spent £115M in transfers the last season across 6/7 players, and that's totally fair enough. It's a lot of money and sadly the bulk of that has gone on players mentioned above that haven't yet come good (Dibling and Barry). But let's look at comparisons. Chelsea, Spurs and soon apparently Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd will be splashing around that figure or more on just one midfielder this summer!
I don't think everything David Moyes does is perfect, but I am a realist. He has a better record than anyone since the time of Kendall Mk 1, and genuinely cares for the club... unlike Ancelotti, who ditched us at the first opportunity and never actually achieved much.
Those who are crying out to get rid for a 'better' manager, I'd like to ask, who is it? Who credibly do you think we're going to get that is a) available and b) would want the job?
I'd also say, maybe ask West Ham fans how they felt about moving on from Moyes...
63 Posted 19/07/2026 at 17:16:01
64 Posted 19/07/2026 at 17:47:19
Er, didn't he win the FA Cup?
65 Posted 19/07/2026 at 17:50:47
66 Posted 19/07/2026 at 19:37:31
No mention of the manager, no mention of the players; he enjoys going to support his club.
67 Posted 19/07/2026 at 19:44:12
This great manager then went to Man Utd and preceded to show a video of Jagielka to Vidic and Ferdinand of how he wants them to defend.
Every striker he brought to the club he ruined, likewise at West Ham. His cup record is atrocious, as is his derby record, and playing against the top 6 record equally as bad.
If he is the best we can get, god help us.
68 Posted 19/07/2026 at 20:04:05
I have no idea how old you are but I grew up in an era when Everton won things. We have got to the point now where, in my opinion, we are the most apologetic team in the Premier League. We exist to exist, not to compete.
So I really admire what Aston Villa have done. I think they are the closest thing to us out there. So my question to any Everton fan is, would you spend 3 years in the Championship knowing you'd come back and win something, qualify for European football and be competitive? Or would you rather know you were safe, never winning anything but always going to be in the Premier League, mid-table?
For me, I'd love the journey Villa took. It's a risk, it's scary, but I think it'd be a buzz.
I realise that isn't for most Evertonians though.
69 Posted 19/07/2026 at 20:07:58
Very, very few of them regret Moyes leaving. In fact many of them blame him as being the catalyst for their downfall.
In fact most of them believe he should have left immediately after winning the Euro trophy. His one, single, trophy in his entire managerial career.
70 Posted 19/07/2026 at 21:16:24
No, I would not accept 3 seasons in the Championship to get to where Villa are now. Indeed they suffered a season in the 3rd Division in the early 70s. Weve been a bigger club than them for over 120 years.
When the Premier League commenced we were still classed as one of the big five and following years of mismanagement it is essential that we must aspire to get back to the elite where we have belonged during most of our history since we were founder members of the Football League.
Chris@62
In sneering at the Moyes bashers, of which I am long-time paid up member, if you want to accept mid table mediocrity thats your choice but may I remind you that Joe Royle achieved far more in less than three seasons than Moyes in nearly thirteen.
Furthermore I dont count finishing 4th with a negative goal difference, reaching the last sixteen of the UEFA Cup and feebly losing an FA Cup Final as success in any way whatsoever.
71 Posted 20/07/2026 at 13:17:22
Peter Reid in Downing Street, this lunchtime along with Steve Rotherham, greeting our new Prime Minister, Andy Burnham.
72 Posted 20/07/2026 at 13:55:22
It looks like the Freidkins will stick with him and give him time, but its a results and performance business, so he had better shape up for the coming season.
73 Posted 20/07/2026 at 14:29:52
My concern now rests on the last two months of the season. He'd done great for a year I was thinking, and then went in the toilet. Fair enough, you hit a bad patch. But then there was his reaction to it all. He didn't think he owed the fans an explanation, said we'd had a great season until the last month. Nobody believe this. If we get the Moyes of this time last year back again, AND this time we make some good buys, I'm prepared to give him another go. But I do now have concerns about him, he's read the room appallingly recently. He needs to do better.
It's only really when you get to season end that you can properly judge. And that first full season, frankly was a bit of a stinker. We haven't been able to spend money for five years, He goes out and spends well over a hundred million quid, and none of them bar one can get in the fucking team. AND we then have to play a 6 foot 5 centre back at full back all season. It's piss poor planning and performance.
74 Posted 21/07/2026 at 04:53:18
Not me. I have never been his greatest fan and I did call Moyes out at the end of last season, but I also remember thinking in the lead up to the January window of 2013 that he needed backing in the window.
My point - that was 13 years ago when he was at his personal peak (50 years of age). The move to Man Utd proved to be too big a job for him (like many that followed). No disgrace in that but a move from which he never really recovered.
I cling to the belief that we will be great again like we were when I started going to Goodison in 1961. I also realise that this is not going to happen overnight. A period of transition is required.
It appears that after a period of fighting for our life under Dyche, in extremely difficult financial circumstances, and Moyes' subsequent efforts, we are relatively stable.
The OP puts the question should Moyes be given an extension. My response is no for the following reasons.
If we are to make our way back to the top where we belong, then we need a young tactically astute and courageous manager who, because of his persona, will attract like minded players to the club.
In my opinion that will not happen under David Moyes. With all due respect his best days are long gone.
If we do get the right young manager then the Evertonians will take us through the transition back to the top - and it will be great. The premier league won't know what's hit it.
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.
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1 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:18:50