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I think I already know what the general reaction will be in the comments when this piece is published.

David Moyes is definitely not the flavour of the month among Evertonians. Even six or seven weeks on from that disastrous end to the campaign, there’s still a lot of frustration directed the Scot’s way. And, fairly so.

Moyes needs a strong start to the season; he, and Everton, can’t afford a poor run to get the 2026-27 campaign rolling. The pressure would be ramped right up, and serious questions would need to be asked of the club’s leadership.

If Everton could have got a standout candidate to replace Moyes ahead of this season, then I wouldn’t have been closed off to it. However, I’m relatively okay with the 63-year-old remaining in place, for next season, anyway — albeit, I would like to see him placed under proper scrutiny from those above him, and there needs to be a clearer sense of alignment across the board.

But I would not want Moyes to be in place this time next year, barring a clearly outstanding campaign and a shift in his methods towards a more progressive approach when it comes to blooding new or younger players. 

And that could be a problem, not because my opinion counts for anything, but because as it stands, Moyes has less than a year left to run on his deal and there is no real clarity on what comes next, for anyone involved.

In theory, I have no problem with Moyes going into the last year of his deal, as long as it is soon made abundantly clear what the plan is. I trust Moyes not to give up or phone it in — something his predecessor, Sean Dyche, definitely did.

However, all parties involved must know the score, and the fans and media must, too. If not, then come November or December, the inevitable questions will arrive over Moyes’s future — more uncertainty.

Uncertainty kills progress. And what could be the impact on Everton’s transfer dealings, if players aren’t sure who their manager will be? 

So, what do TFG and Angus Kinnear do? Do they wait until the last possible moment to make a call on Moyes, or do they hedge their bets?

Could TFG offer Moyes a contract extension, to cover themselves, but perhaps include a get-out clause? Now, that’s easier said than done — Moyes, of course, would have to agree to that, and why would he?

That’s where tough negotiators come into play; Nick Hammond, who has been brought in for this very reason. Take it or leave it, David, but this is your chance to secure your future, one way or another.

I’m not advocating for Moyes to get a new deal, to be clear. I would prefer him not to, but it’s also not great business for such a key figure to be entering the final months of their deal, and I could see the logic in Everton biting the bullet, as it were — they would have to be prepared, though, for some serious backlash, and maybe ask themselves whether it would be worth it.

If Everton start the season well, then perhaps that is when the club would pull the trigger. Give Moyes his extra year, or even just state that this will definitely be his final season, and give everyone clarity on the situation.

Uncertainty, though, can’t continue for too much longer.

 

 

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Kevin Molloy
1 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:18:50
he needs to have his contract extended (even if it's just for a year), or be sacked. going into this season with months remaining on his deal guarantees a mediocre season. Authority drains away from him, we've seen how it plays out at West Ham and ors. If TFG don't regularise the situation it will show more clearly than anything that they have no real investment in the club, that their only concern is saving a year's wages.
Pete Ambrose
2 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:27:04
Some EFC fans seem intent on dragging down Moyes. They have quickly forgotten where the team was. They fail to understand the financial restrictions that PSR brought..creating a silk purse from a sows ear doesn’t happen. There was/is a lack of quality and depth in the side.These issues require time to fix. Consistency is paramount and Moyes is trying to achieve this. From consistency you get results and improvement. It all takes time and patience.
John Collins
3 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:33:04
Some EFC fans seem intent on dragging down Moyes. They have quickly forgotten where the team was.

16th, that's where the team was when he took over.
He engineered a 13th finishing position from that base.
Only cost him £115 million to improve 3 places.
Mick O\\\'Malley
4 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:36:29
The fans have been patient for 31 years, last season was no improvement from the season before or Dyche's last season.

Sunderland came up with a squad of players who won the Championship playoffs, they added some players with no Premier League experience except for Xhaka.

Their manager trusted his players with no Premier League experience and they duly qualified for Europe while we were served up another shit sandwich, finishing 13th.

I'm done with being patient.
Les Callan
5 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:36:42
Pete.

“It takes time and patience". He had that in abundance last time.

Eleven bloody years! Still the same old crap.
Paul Brownrigg
6 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:39:19
This will be my 12th season under Moyes and the truth is it's probably 5 or 6 too many. The club and parts of the fanbase are continuously looking back and getting nostalgic over times when it was just a little bit less crap than it is now...

He returned with this 'developed ideas' rhetoric -- how he'd improved as a manager -- and yet the simple fact is he hasn't changed in any way. The Dithering Dave of 15 years ago is the same man in charge now.

I could take one more season if there is some sort of plan for development in place... UTFT 💙
Andrew Merrick
7 Posted 18/07/2026 at 09:42:28
New year window will be telling, its important for the team building future. I would love to have insight on both Moyes's and TFG's ambition for the club.

The forum opinion seems very much to favour a younger more progressive manager, and if the changover had been this summer then two favourable candidates would have been available.

And that is the crux of it, who will be available and when do they have a say in the team building? Who could be approached early, how do you manage retiring Moyes, might we see a no purchase window in January?

The TFG business model looks solid, tick, job done. The club operations are in the best shape for decades, but as fans, with emotional investment, we want to see progress on the pitch.

Interesting season this next one.
Dave Abrahams
8 Posted 18/07/2026 at 10:06:26
Patric why are you making a song and dance about when Moyes should go, “” Could TFG give him a contract extension with a get out clause” why the fuck would we do this ? How does he deserve this? Did he give Everton a get out clause when he did one to Manchester United?

Why worry so much about an average, at best, manager? TFG and the people they have put in place to run the club are under scrutiny themselves to see if they are more than financially interested in the running of Everton FC— they should have been exploring who will be the best manager of Everton since they took over the club, they knew Moyes was only a temporary one.
Raymond Fox
9 Posted 18/07/2026 at 10:53:15
We never know what the owners are thinking, you would assume if we have another poorish season they will not give Moyes another contract.
That's not a given though is it, they may be satisfied with staying in the division, I think it's 50-50 one way or another.

I'm neither for or particularly against Moyes, I've said umpteen times our biggest problem by far is that our squad quality wise doesn't measure up to the top teams.
It would be nice if that's the right word to have a different mindset but I'm not sure that would make us more successful, we have tried changing the manager with no effect whatsoever many times before.

I also can't see us spending lots of money this season if they think they may have to change the manager at the end of the season
Karl Jones
10 Posted 18/07/2026 at 11:23:44
The whole club lacks ambition, so they're happy with him and his cheap option signings...

Even the women's team are selling their better players and replacing them with relegation cast offs on free transfers.
Colin Metcalfe
11 Posted 18/07/2026 at 11:46:50
This season I will be taking a back seat as far as the blues are concerned after the disappointment of the final few months of last season I just can't be bothered.
I turned 60 years old this year and I honestly think I will never to see either England nor Everton lift another trophy and with Moyes in charge I thoroughly expect early exits form both cups and two derby defeats, I said at the time just get him in on a short term contract to get us into the new stadium but he is still here with his cautions over pragmatic football and meanwhile those across Stanley Park have one of the best young managers around it bugs me they get most things right when it comes to player and management recruitment and so we go into this new season with dour Dave and a mediocre squad, my guess is we will miss out on Europe again and reach the dizzy heights of 10/11th.
Paul Hewitt
12 Posted 18/07/2026 at 11:52:18
Come in, done a decent job stabilising us. Now time to move on
Jack Convery
13 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:17:53
If TFG were ambitious for EFC, they's have done everything to get Glasner. He went to Forest ffs. If he had signed for AC Milan then ok but not Forest. If we get off to a bad start, then HD will be a bear pit but not for the opposition,
Mike Hayes
14 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:18:17
He’ll be no different this season than last - nor the 11 years before. Time to move him on his brand of (hoof) football is dulling any expectation we’ve had left. He’s done what he and Dyche (and Allardyce) were brought in to do, that’s done time for a change with a forward thinking manager.
Ian Horan
15 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:31:00
This Moyes love in amazes me!!! people seem oblivious to reality. we all hated Benitez but he was the one that suffered PSR restrictions the most.

Dyche got more points on the field of play in the season of the points deductions. Moyes spent £115 mill to get 1 point more thr season just gone, this season he rinsed and repeated the team in the last 8 games and gained no points. Safe from relegation not winning games yet changed nothing

As Enstien says " doing the same thing repeatedly and expecting a different outcome is a sign of insanity!!!" sadly it appears insanity is becoming contagious.
John Collins
16 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:34:24
Mike 14.

Thats the point in a nutshell mate.
Anyone expecting him to change into a non scared, front foot, attacking manager is kidding themselves.
Along with his obvious lack of football adaptability I also consider him a complete phony as a man.
Sooner he's gone sooner the club can move forward.
Andy Meighan
17 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:38:41
Can't forgive him for that abysmal end to the season.

His stubbornness drives me bonkers, and thinks he knows well better than any evertonian ever lived.

Ive said this before and ill say it again, he doesn't like us, and he more or less said it when he was at United, and also in his crass comment to Joe Thomas.

Chase the arrogant fucker or were getting more of the same this coming season.
Brendan McLaughlin
18 Posted 18/07/2026 at 12:58:45
Someone made the point yesterday that Lee Carsely's contract expires next year. Perhaps Moyes could be retained in some capacity and Carsely brought in.

I know Carsely has made comments in the past about being happy in his current role but if it's Everton and the chance to work with Moyes again he may be tempted.
Derek Dolan
19 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:05:15
New contract hopefully. Superb manager, will improve positions albeit slowly. Anything else will bring us back to chaos.
Stu Gre
20 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:08:35
Moyes will have a good run in the season, be offered a new contract and finish the season poorly. Rinse and repeat.
Sean Kelly
21 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:09:56
Moyes can’t change it’s not in his nature. He’s a cross between a dinosaur and a vampire. His best days (when ever they were) are long gone. His current strategy is to act like a vampire rip the heart out out of the players and suck the blood out of the lifeline of this club…the fans. Dibling Aznou and others must be wonder why they came here. The audacity of Moyes knows no limits. Publicly hanging Dibling out to dry repeatedly in press conferences is shameful. Playing a crap Tarkowski and Keane most of the season is criminal. I suggest they cost us at least 15 points between them last season. FFS TFG get rid of him and get someone in with a pulse at least.
Darren Hind
22 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:11:28
"Some EFC fans seem intent on dragging down Moyes"

Not the other way around then ?
Mike Hayes
23 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:13:53
Derek Dolan...

Are you on the wrong club fan page? 🤷
Jimmy Hardacre
24 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:23:48
It is a bleeding joke... why would anyone think Moyes is the answer to any football question??? Let alone leave him in charge for another year!!!

Fuck him -- he walked away to go to Man Utd, and would not sign a deal and get Everton compensation... god, no!

He was brought in to do a job. He got well paid for that... so come on, boys, have some ambition for the future of Everton. No one else matters!!!
John Collins
25 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:23:58
Post 19.

What you smokin bud?
Kevin Naylor
26 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:27:25
Large helping of deja vu coming up. Same team (with the odd exception) same tactics (he only has one set) and same outcome.

I'll be shocked if he's still here after Christmas, but I think a tonking in the first derby will be the end of him.
Les Callan
27 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:42:25
John.

Could it be sarcasm?
John Collins
28 Posted 18/07/2026 at 13:44:16
I'll ask him to roll me a sarcasm one, Les.

Obviously good gear! 😁
Dave Abrahams
29 Posted 18/07/2026 at 14:16:43
John (28),

With a pile of WUM in it!
John Steadman
30 Posted 18/07/2026 at 14:24:15
Moyes is simply not good enough, his tactics are exactly the same as the first time he was here. The name 'Dithering Dave' does not come up for no reason.

Boring football is his name of the game: Do not nr expansive, keep the ball at all cost, a point is a point!

Take the Scotland job and do us all a favour!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Mark Ryan
31 Posted 18/07/2026 at 14:25:37
Get rid asap. That's all that needs to be said. Get rid.

Banal, mediocre, boring, stubborn, dull, stuck-in-the-mud. Get rid, get rid, get rid!!!
Soren Moyer
32 Posted 18/07/2026 at 14:39:38
He is shite, been shite and will continue being shite.

He's been sacked five times, twice by the same club! Let that sink in!!
John Collins
33 Posted 18/07/2026 at 14:59:25
Given he's been amongst the top earners of managers for many years, and given his lack of a return for that reward at all the clubs he's worked for, he's a very lucky man.
Christy Ring
34 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:08:41
Moyes is past his sell-by date, too old-fashioned in his tactics and team selection.

He doesn't believe in youth... and his late substitutions are his worst trait.
Sean Kelly
35 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:30:45
Darren,

If Moyes had the ability to embrace the modern game and play a more expansive game, that would be great. I along with others would really get behind him... but he can't change.

The Everton of Moyes is lacking in attacking nous coz in their minds are the instructions of Moyes. Keep possession at all cost.

In my advancing years, I yearn for some success with Everton -- with the added bonus of decent exciting attacking football. With Moyes in charge, that's looking decidedly slim -- though I do live in hope that TFG will invest in a modern forward-thinking manager.
Derek Dolan
36 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:33:46
Last post here. This forum is the dregs of negativity. A miserable, delusional bunch sat in this echo chamber.

Most never kicked a ball in their life let alone coached a player. Muppets.
John Collins
37 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:36:46
Who did you play for, Derek?
Mike Hayes
38 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:44:22
Bye DD
Mick O\\\'Malley
39 Posted 18/07/2026 at 15:49:12
Derek,

Go on any Everton fan site you want, you'll get the same response: the man is a dreary non-entity.
Dale Self
40 Posted 18/07/2026 at 16:22:58
So Derek, you offer an obvious contrarian viewpoint with no real analysis, receive the same quality of responses from those who disagree, and then you just hurl pejorative piffle to make yourself feel better, or superior.

Defend the proposition. Of course we are a bit temperamental with the finish of last season and England out with a Moyesterful last 30 minutes of matchplay.

Can you tell us honestly that #19 was not a wind-up?
Sean Kelly
41 Posted 18/07/2026 at 18:26:56
Derek Dolan,

Please make it your last post. as promised. I can assure you that I have played different codes of football from under-age to senior level. In terms of soccer, I coached different clubs and have attained badges from the FAI.

Incidentally, I coached at different clubs at senior level and won two league titles with different clubs. So, without bragging, I know what I'm talking about.

At the same time, I'm very respectful of the opinions of some contributors on here, eg, Dave Abrahams, who knows a thing or two.

We aspire for success with Everton but don't see the possibility in the short term; however, with a different style of play and encouragement of the younger players, we might -- just might -- see it in our advancing years.

TFG have invested in the commercial and back of house teams but need to make a decision about Moyes. Are they happy with survival or do they want success on the pitch also??? The jury is out on that one, lad.
Liam Mogan
42 Posted 18/07/2026 at 18:41:21
I reckon Davie boy gives this forum a run for its money in the dregs of negativity stakes, tbf.
Dave Abrahams
43 Posted 18/07/2026 at 19:54:39
Liam (42),

I think Davie could give all of us a very long start and beat all of us by a mile in the negativity stakes!
Mike Gaynes
44 Posted 18/07/2026 at 20:50:23
Heads up. Multiple reports that we have agreed to terms with Leicester for Ghanaian winger Abdul Fatawu.
Brendan McLaughlin
45 Posted 18/07/2026 at 20:53:18
Impressive CV Sean #41

But on paper, and I'm genuinely not trying to be controversial, Moyes has a much more impressive pedigree.

I just can't fathom that someone as useless as many ToffeeWebbers make Moyes out to be...could have such a long and rewarding career in the game.
Les Callan
46 Posted 18/07/2026 at 21:06:31
One reason Brendan is that we were daft enough to indulge him for eleven years.
Jay Lewis
47 Posted 18/07/2026 at 21:19:35
Mike @44 Can he play RB? Seriously, don't want to hear of any transfers unless it's a RB, becoming a fucking farce now
Brendan McLaughlin
48 Posted 18/07/2026 at 21:29:42
Les #46

Yes I've seen that slogan many times on TW.

But Moyes took both Everton & West Ham to their highest ever finishes in Premier League history.

That's an achievement? No?
Tony Abrahams
49 Posted 18/07/2026 at 21:37:42
Moyes turned Everton, into John Lyles, West Ham, without the two FA Cups
John Collins
50 Posted 18/07/2026 at 22:23:45
4th is an achievement?

A sign of the demise of a once great club if so.
Kunal Desai
51 Posted 18/07/2026 at 00:52:59
What really is Moyes going to do next season differently? Let's be honest, he gets a tidy sum for and two and half year contract which he isn't walking away from. He's not bothered one bit about taking the club forward other than aligning his own pockets.

We have a squad that isn't going to score more than 50 league goals this season, we'll still see more of the usual suspects at centre back (Keane/Tarkowski) We've brought in one championship player this summer and were told by that clown of a CEO it's a two summer window.

The club isn't moving in any direction. It'll be 13th again ole ole at best under this dour jock.
Si Cooper
52 Posted 18/07/2026 at 01:10:24
Brendan (45&48), Davie Moyes certainly has some proven ability in producing steady mid-table clubs and so has enjoyed a good employment history.

What he has never really done is truly excel in his chosen career and that appears to be because he has a distinct ‘comfort zone’ when it comes to how he approaches the job.

I see exactly the same in industry, where people stay like limpets in their lofty positions because they just about know how to eke out ‘good enough’.

Keeping DM is a sign of a distinct lack of real ambition and anyone that follows will first have to change the mindset of players he will have elevated because they were / could be moulded into risk averse plodders.
Annika Herbert
53 Posted 19/07/2026 at 03:31:31
I have already prepared myself for another mid table season under the tutelage of Dinosaur Dave.

More mind numbing, defensive, tactics using the same old, tried and trusted personnel. A decent result here and there but regular beatings from the so called top 6. Not to mention the derbies.

The chances of Dour Davie producing some attractive, front foot, football are pretty much zero.

Worst of all though, will be the vomit inducing statement from our leader when he informs us our mid table finish has been a good season with obvious improvement.

Of course he will not understand the fans being unhappy with yet another mediocre season.
Laurie Hartley
54 Posted 19/07/2026 at 05:33:28
No.

Club Manager / Head Coach Age

Arsenal Mikel Arteta 44
Aston Villa Unai Emery 54
Bournemouth Marco Rose 49
Brentford Keith Andrews 45
Brighton & Hove Albion Fabian Hürzeler 33
Chelsea Xabi Alonso 44
Coventry City Frank Lampard 48
Crystal Palace Pierre Sage 47
Everton David Moyes 63
Fulham [Álvaro Arbeloa](themag.co.uk ahead-of-2026-27-season-fulham-alvaro-arbeloa/) 43
Hull City Sergej Jakirović 49
Ipswich Town Gary O'Neil 43
Leeds United Daniel Farke 49
Liverpool Andoni Iraola 44
Manchester City Enzo Maresca 46
Manchester United Michael Carrick 44
Newcastle United Eddie Howe 48
Nottingham Forest Oliver Glasner 51
Sunderland Régis Le Bris 50
Tottenham Hotspur Roberto De Zerbi 47
Stu Gre
55 Posted 19/07/2026 at 05:58:49
I think SI hits the nail on the head as to why Moyes has such a long career. In the EPL era, owners are terrified of the cost of being relegated. It's no longer about winning things, it's about getting enough points to not lose top flight status.

Contrary to some statements on here, and despite the fact I despise the man, I don't believe he is a shite manager. In fact he may well be the very best manager at delivering unambitious owners what they want.

Some will point out that he has stabilised our club. I actually think his kind of stability makes it impossible for the club to progress, and makes the next managers job very difficult. They have to unpick his rigid structure and if they go through a bad patch in doing it, people will say "careful what you wish for, should go back to Moyes" instead of giving the new guy a bit of patience.

But money talks and as yet TFG haven't shown the kind of ruthlessness they have with our Italian cousin. For that reason, so long as the wheels don't come off, I fully expect Moyes to get a new contract before Christmas.
Paul Griffiths
56 Posted 19/07/2026 at 07:42:12
The most predictable and unnecessary thread ever.

A tiny tad ameliorated dead slightly by the appearance of Derek Dolan who I think played for Wolves in 1968 and is a classic footy card chewy name from the time of Man About the House.

So sad that DD only fleetingly graced our lovely site.

RIP He will not be forgotten.
Paul Griffiths
57 Posted 19/07/2026 at 07:46:26
Jesus Laurie - 54 - that is so very telling. Thanks for posting.

A decade - decade - older than his nearest competitor. That says absolutely everything about Saint Daniel-the-Absent and Saint Anus-the-Silent and him.
Paul Griffiths
58 Posted 19/07/2026 at 07:47:50
Okay, mistake, didn't mean to leave out the g in Angus, but I ain't going to correct it.
Paul Griffiths
59 Posted 19/07/2026 at 08:17:07
Everton are favourites to sign 24-year-old English winger Jaden Philogene from Ipswich. (Football Insider), external

Can we play two left wingers and two right wingers in our starting XI?
Dave Abrahams
60 Posted 19/07/2026 at 08:48:51
Brendan (45 and 48),

I've met you and can vouch that you're not as daft as you sound in those two posts — behave and act your age!
Mark Steers
61 Posted 19/07/2026 at 11:09:23
Jaden Philogene turned Everton down a few seasons ago went back to Aston Villa, where he started.

He got 11 games and they sent him to Ipswich in the Championship... Why would we want him?

Maybe Moyes sees him as a right-back... ha, ha.
Chris James
62 Posted 19/07/2026 at 16:35:42
Usual bunch of tedious old Moyes bashing that conveniently ignores the fact he oversaw our most successful period in the Premier era, guiding us out of the financial and performance wastelands that had seen the club closer to relegation and bankruptcy than bothering the top half each year, to become perennial top 6/7 challengers.

In the modern age of multiple Uefa competitions, these finishes would've seen us on a European tour virtually every season; as it was, we only had a handful, including our only [short] sojourn in the Champions League.

In the 2024-25 season, Moyes guided us out of a perilous position to a comfortable mid-table finish. In 2025-26 we were never in danger of a relegation battle, but rather in and around European spots for much of the season, before capitulating at the end to end up with just 1 point more in 13th once more.

That was of course disappointing, and he has to take a chunk of blame as the manager... but we do also have to realistically factor in the size and quality of a threadbare squad, limited budget, injuries, and the basic failure of players to perform at the expected level.

The reality is we can't afford to buy the very top tier of proven Premier League quality and so we have to take punts on youth, less glamorous folk, or less well know players from abroad. Sometimes that works, Ndiaye is an absolute belter, Dewsbury-Hall and Garner have been great, and Rohl looks decent. However, sometimes it doesn't. The likes of Barry and Dibling have (thus far) both failed to live up to expectation.

When the proven quality players we did have, such as Branthwaite, Gueye and Grealish, get injured on top of this, it's not hard to understand the struggles.

I note someone mentioned we'd spent £115M in transfers the last season across 6/7 players, and that's totally fair enough. It's a lot of money and sadly the bulk of that has gone on players mentioned above that haven't yet come good (Dibling and Barry). But let's look at comparisons. Chelsea, Spurs and soon apparently Liverpool, Arsenal and Man Utd will be splashing around that figure or more on just one midfielder this summer!

I don't think everything David Moyes does is perfect, but I am a realist. He has a better record than anyone since the time of Kendall Mk 1, and genuinely cares for the club... unlike Ancelotti, who ditched us at the first opportunity and never actually achieved much.

Those who are crying out to get rid for a 'better' manager, I'd like to ask, who is it? Who credibly do you think we're going to get that is a) available and b) would want the job?

I'd also say, maybe ask West Ham fans how they felt about moving on from Moyes...
John Collins
63 Posted 19/07/2026 at 17:16:01
Do you go to games, Chris?
Les Callan
64 Posted 19/07/2026 at 17:47:19
Better than Joe Royle, Chris?

Er, didn't he win the FA Cup?
Les Callan
65 Posted 19/07/2026 at 17:50:47
Don't think he lost a derby game either, did he?
John Williams
66 Posted 19/07/2026 at 19:37:31
On Friday, our forthcoming new Prime Minister, Andy Burnham, said he was very proud to be from Liverpool and will continue to utilise his season ticket watching Everton.

No mention of the manager, no mention of the players; he enjoys going to support his club.
Mick O\\\'Malley
67 Posted 19/07/2026 at 19:44:12
I love the club but you wouldn't want me managing it. It's not up to the fans to pick the manager, and Moyes loved us that much that he bailed to go to Man Utd while putting the boot in when he left.

This great manager then went to Man Utd and preceded to show a video of Jagielka to Vidic and Ferdinand of how he wants them to defend.

Every striker he brought to the club he ruined, likewise at West Ham. His cup record is atrocious, as is his derby record, and playing against the top 6 record equally as bad.

If he is the best we can get, god help us.
Stu Gre
68 Posted 19/07/2026 at 20:04:05
Hey Chris, I appreciate your post and enjoy it when someone puts in a genuine defense of Moyes. I get it even though I don't agree with it.

I have no idea how old you are but I grew up in an era when Everton won things. We have got to the point now where, in my opinion, we are the most apologetic team in the Premier League. We exist to exist, not to compete.

So I really admire what Aston Villa have done. I think they are the closest thing to us out there. So my question to any Everton fan is, would you spend 3 years in the Championship knowing you'd come back and win something, qualify for European football and be competitive? Or would you rather know you were safe, never winning anything but always going to be in the Premier League, mid-table?

For me, I'd love the journey Villa took. It's a risk, it's scary, but I think it'd be a buzz.

I realise that isn't for most Evertonians though.
Annika Herbert
69 Posted 19/07/2026 at 20:07:58
Chris @ 62, I have asked many West Ham fans how they feel about Moyes and checked every fan site I can find.

Very, very few of them regret Moyes leaving. In fact many of them blame him as being the catalyst for their downfall.

In fact most of them believe he should have left immediately after winning the Euro trophy. His one, single, trophy in his entire managerial career.
Ian Pilkington
70 Posted 19/07/2026 at 21:16:24
Stu@68

No, I would not accept 3 seasons in the Championship to get to where Villa are now. Indeed they suffered a season in the 3rd Division in the early 70’s. We’ve been a bigger club than them for over 120 years.

When the Premier League commenced we were still classed as one of the big five and following years of mismanagement it is essential that we must aspire to get back to the elite where we have belonged during most of our history since we were founder members of the Football League.

Chris@62

In sneering at the Moyes bashers, of which I am long-time paid up member, if you want to accept mid table mediocrity that’s your choice but may I remind you that Joe Royle achieved far more in less than three seasons than Moyes in nearly thirteen.

Furthermore I don’t count finishing 4th with a negative goal difference, reaching the last sixteen of the UEFA Cup and feebly losing an FA Cup Final as success in any way whatsoever.
John Williams
71 Posted 20/07/2026 at 13:17:22
Pride in Liverpool.
Peter Reid in Downing Street, this lunchtime along with Steve Rotherham, greeting our new Prime Minister, Andy Burnham.
Mal van Schaick
72 Posted 20/07/2026 at 13:55:22
Moyes presided over an extremely poor run of games at the back end of last season and complained about strength in depth of the squad, and yet aside from Hackney and making George a permanent transfer, he has done nothing to strengthen the squad, albeit he still has time, and we need a right full back or two.

It looks like the Freidkins will stick with him and give him time, but it’s a results and performance business, so he had better shape up for the coming season.
Kevin Molloy
73 Posted 20/07/2026 at 14:29:52
some good points there Chris.
My concern now rests on the last two months of the season. He'd done great for a year I was thinking, and then went in the toilet. Fair enough, you hit a bad patch. But then there was his reaction to it all. He didn't think he owed the fans an explanation, said we'd had a great season until the last month. Nobody believe this. If we get the Moyes of this time last year back again, AND this time we make some good buys, I'm prepared to give him another go. But I do now have concerns about him, he's read the room appallingly recently. He needs to do better.
It's only really when you get to season end that you can properly judge. And that first full season, frankly was a bit of a stinker. We haven't been able to spend money for five years, He goes out and spends well over a hundred million quid, and none of them bar one can get in the fucking team. AND we then have to play a 6 foot 5 centre back at full back all season. It's piss poor planning and performance.
Laurie Hartley
74 Posted 21/07/2026 at 04:53:18
Chris # 62 -"Moyes bashing that conveniently ignores the fact he oversaw our most successful period in the Premier era", .

Not me. I have never been his greatest fan and I did call Moyes out at the end of last season, but I also remember thinking in the lead up to the January window of 2013 that he needed backing in the window.

My point - that was 13 years ago when he was at his personal peak (50 years of age). The move to Man Utd proved to be too big a job for him (like many that followed). No disgrace in that but a move from which he never really recovered.

I cling to the belief that we will be great again like we were when I started going to Goodison in 1961. I also realise that this is not going to happen overnight. A period of transition is required.

It appears that after a period of fighting for our life under Dyche, in extremely difficult financial circumstances, and Moyes' subsequent efforts, we are relatively stable.

The OP puts the question should Moyes be given an extension. My response is no for the following reasons.

If we are to make our way back to the top where we belong, then we need a young tactically astute and courageous manager who, because of his persona, will attract like minded players to the club.

In my opinion that will not happen under David Moyes. With all due respect his best days are long gone.

If we do get the right young manager then the Evertonians will take us through the transition back to the top - and it will be great. The premier league won't know what's hit it.

Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

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