Well it was nice to stop the rut against Norwich City… one of the worst teams to grace the Premier League over the last few years. Having drawn four and lost one of our last five fixtures with the Canarie, I was fairly convinced another disappointing draw was on the horizon as I set off to Goodison Park, though at full time, and despite a slightly nervy last 20 minutes, Everton ran out comfortable winners with two excellent goals separating the teams.

I set off pretty early and was outside Goodison Park at about 12:30pm. It’s nice getting there early and seeing some of the goings on around the ground as they prepare for kick off. The ‘Fanzone’ now has a FIFA ’14 stand set up for kids to try their hand at the popular video game. You see corporate gentlemen in suits entering the lounge and some of the assembled media arriving and setting up for the afternoon.

I was there early to see some of the memorabilia provided by the EFC Heritage Society. Every home game, they have the upstairs of St Luke’s Church decked out with all sorts of memorabilia including matchday programmes from yesteryear, old newspaper cuttings, flags, old tickets stubs and plenty more. Entry is free and it's certainly worthwhile visiting if you have a spare 10 minutes on match day. A section is also included for the visiting team.

It was nice to browse around before making my way to the pub which was fairly empty when I arrived, though soon packed out. Katja, my better half, joined me. She is German and brought with her two German Evertonians from work. Gaz soon followed. Gaz is Welsh and brought with him a group of Welsh Evertonians, so we had conversations flowing in German and in at times barely detectable Welsh accents… Gary was very bemused by it all when he arrived. It as good fun in the pub, everyone in good spirits and everyone, bar myself, very confident of a home win for the Blues.

There were quite a few changes to the team which crushed QPR in the FA Cup last weekend. Howard and Baines both slotted back into their regular positions whilst Jagielka was the surprise inclusion into the backline replacing the presumably injured Alcaraz. Kevin Mirallas and Steven Pienaar both returned to the team to replace the injured Ross Barkley and Stephen Naismith whilst Lukaku regained his place in attack, replacing the seemingly departing Nikica Jelavic.The substitutes bench perhaps demonstrated our pressing needs for reinforcements with Magaye Gueye and Apostolos Vellios joining Robles, Hibbert, Heitinga, Oviedo and Naismith on the substitutes bench.

Norwich City had ex-Everton keeper John Ruddy between the sticks, Leroy Fer (who almost signed for Everton 12 months ago) in midfield, and their record signing, the fantastically named Robin van Wolfswinkel (whose only league goal so far is against Everton) in attack. We took our seats to find a remarkably tall gentleman directly in front of Gary, much to his dismay. You felt a bit sorry for the bloke as he was clearly quite conscious of it… there’s nothing you can do about your height.

If our substitutes bench indicated a pressing need for more reinforcements, then it was a great surprise to see Everton had wrapped up the deal to bring Aiden McGeady to the club, the Ireland international signing for the club on a 4½-year deal. Aiden was introduced to the Goodison crowd prior to kick-off. He’s always looked a good player and could be a great addition to the squad. This brings our contingent of Irish internationals in our squad to four — even five if you count our Under-21 international Shane Duffy, currently on loan at Yeovil Town.

Everton attacked towards the Park End in the first half and, despite a fairly uncomfortable first few minutes, were soon in control of the game and creating opportunities against, barring Fulham, the leakiest defence in the league… Lukaku missing a gilt-edged opportunity to put us ahead when he headed his fellow Belgian Kevin Mirallas's pinpoint centre over the crossbar. It didn’t take long for us to take the lead however when a Gareth Barry piledriver gave us the advantage when he smashed home from about 20 yards out. I love goals like that – unstoppable drives from distance. That was Barry’s 50th club goal and what a way to score it.

Everton put Norwich City under a lot of pressure for the remainder of the half and on another day could have been further ahead. Coleman blazed one over, somebody (I don’t know who) just about cleared his own crossbar in what would have been quite an own goal and Everton’s general play around the Norwich penalty area was very threatening. At the other end, Tim Howard tipped Robin van Wolfswinkel’s curling effort around the post in what was pretty much Norwich’s only opportunity in the first half. At the break, we lead 1-0.

Into the second period and Everton’s general dominance continued, a lot of pressure was applied but it took another piece of individual brilliance, this time from Kevin Mirallas, to give us a two-goal margin. Leighton Baines was felled about 25 yards from goal and Mirallas stepped up to take the free kick. You sort of had a feeling he’d score and the moment the ball left his boot you knew it was nestling into the corner of the net. Ruddy, if I’m being harsh, might have got across to it but nevertheless it was an excellent strike from the Belgian to put Everton 2-0 ahead. The crowd were now in great voice.

At 2-0, you felt the game could open up to become 3-, 4- or 5-0 as Everton continued to apply pressure. They seemed to be trying to create chances for Lukaku to put away and there was a lot of nice build-up play but with no further goals. Still, we looked comfortable enough.

I raised an eyebrow at a couple of substitutions with around 20 minutes still to play as Everton removed two of our most creative players for another centre-back (Heitinga) and perhaps a more disciplined midfielder (Naismith). Pienaar appeared to hobble off so that one seemed forced; I’m not sure about the Osman substitution... however, I don’t know if that was tactical or forced.

I thought we seemed to be shutting up shop a bit too soon... and so it proved as Norwich began to create opportunities in the final 20 minutes. We saw it out and thus it mattered not. Howard only really had the one decent save to make and Robin van Wolfswinkel did miss one reasonable chance so it perhaps wasn’t as dramatic as I’m making out but, had they have gotten one back, we may have struggled with less attacking options on the bench.

So that was that. Despite a late flurry from Norwich it was quite a convincing win and it's nice to arrest the rut against Norwich City. We’ve moved up to 4th position and will stay there if Stoke can avoid defeat against Liverpool. If we can stay within three points of Liverpool (whether that be above or below them) it should make for compulsive viewing in the Merseyside derby on Tuesday 28 January.

Just a sidenote to that – boy, would I fancy our chances of beating Liverpool under the floodlights of Goodison Park rather than the floodlights of Anfield. You have to go all the way back to Sunday 22 December 2002 for the last time we played the first Merseyside derby of a season at Anfield rather than Goodison Park. I wonder why that is? It shouldn’t matter of course as you have to play everyone twice of course anyway, I just think it could make quite a difference to the tail end of the season and could give us a real advantage as we hit the run-in.

Also, this will be the third evening fixture in the Premier League at Anfield during this period with just the one played out in the evening at Goodison Park. We all know what a difference this can make at Goodison Park. Remember Dan Gosling in 2009 anyone?

I suppose there always seems to be something up against us – somehow you wouldn’t have it any other way. Come On Everton! We can do it. Or as my Welsh friends say – Dewch Laen Everton. Or as the German’s put it – Auf gehts Everton!

This is our year!

Player Ratings:

Howard: I’ve certainly seen many a game when he’s been more underworked. He did well. His distribution has improved that immeasurably from last season. At one point he punted aimlessly upfield and I was shocked. Last season, that tended to be the norm. 8

Baines: A good display roaming forward. Won the free kick that lead to our second goal. At his consistent best. 8

Jagielka: Good, both with the ball and in the tackle. Helped Stones through the game also. 7

Stones: A few ropey moments but did very well. I like the way he looks to pick a pass and he is very composed on the ball for a young player. His yellow card was harsh in the extreme. Another good display and he’s learning his game very well. Is it too early to say he’s a potential future England centre-back? Height, reading of play, composure and good distribution – he certainly has the attributes. I’m yet to see him get tested for pace so that’s difficult to judge but he looks a great player in the making and perhaps we needn’t worry about a long-term replacement for Distin quite as much as I thought we had to. 7

Coleman: He got beaten once or twice in defence but continued to gallop forward to good effect in attack. Not a bad afternoon’s work. Is it fair to say he’s the best right back in the league at the moment? He’s got to be right up there. 7

Barry: An excellent display and capped off with a great goal. Should he be in the England squad? If Michael Carrick is fit I think he’s about the best defensive midfielder England have but is Roy Hodgson serious about putting Phil Jones in as the replacement if Carrick is unavailable? Barry would be a better choice surely. 8

McCarthy: My Man of the Match. Covered a great deal of ground in the middle. He has a lot of talent and a lot of attributes. He rarely has a bad game and I can only see him improving. Proving to be an inspired signing and I certainly had my doubts. 8

Pienaar: At times excellent though a bit in and out of the game I thought before he hobbled off. Will be interesting to see if McGeady will replace he or Mirallas in the team when he settles in. 6

Mirallas: Had a very good game, one of few this season. Scored an excellent free kick and was busy and industrious throughout. With Barkley probably out for a while with his broken metatarsal, he will be required to chip in more from a creative viewpoint over the coming weeks, so I hope he can keep this up. 8

Osman: Showed flashes of excellence and perhaps needed to show more of that. He was always a presence though and did help pressing the ball and forcing Norwich into mistakes in their own half. 6

Lukaku: His all round play is good but you feel he needs to get back in the goals and quite quickly. Just one goal in his last eight games now. With three away games coming up he’ll need to be at his best. Two of the three will be huge for him also – at the Hawthorns against his former club and then the Merseyside Derby of course. Another brace against the Reds will do. 6


Heitinga: Slotted into a three man defence and did OK. Probably his Goodison Park swan song as he did his big farewell at the end again. Good to see he’s still there and can be relied on if called upon though…it might not be the end for him at Everton just yet. 6

Naismith: Did OK. Usual Naismith – good commitment and discipline, albeit with nothing spectacular. 6

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Trevor Lynes
796 Posted 12/01/2014 at 18:05:12
I think you definitely underscored Jagielka, who was great, and also Osman and Pienaar who along with Barry were the teams inspiration. I thought McCarthy less of an influence than usual. How can you give Heitinga and Naismith the same rating as Osman and Pienaar ??

I would have been more relaxed if Oviedo had come on instead of Heitinga we would not have to change the shape of the side. Oviedo is a natural sub for both Baines and Pienaar. We surrendered the attacking side of our game completely when both Osman and Pienaar came off. Jagielka ended up playing left side instead of central where he is better suited.

Brian Denton
815 Posted 12/01/2014 at 18:30:27
Dewch 'mlaen surely?
Paul Ferry
816 Posted 12/01/2014 at 18:25:43
Paul how on earth can you give Stones and Jags the same rating?! Jags covered for Stones again and again and I counted - just watched the game again on NBC - five Stones clangers and not one from Jags. Now I'm not a big Jags fan but credit where credit is due, Jags was not far from top-drawer yesterday and the only better player on the pitch was Barry. And 6 for Pienaar - 6!. Nuts had his bet game for yonks yesterday and especially in the 1st half he was reminding me of his old purring best.

I would also agree with Ross Edwards - our 18-year-old youngin who did a great job announcing on the PA yesteday 9/10 and he even stumbled over Naismtih - that Naismith was a bag of shite in admittedly a last quarter run-out and giving him the same rating as Lu and Nuts - Jesus wept!

Paul I know ratings are in the eye of the beholder and I also know that I rattle on about this week-in-and-week-out but you have an unenviable ability to pull off howlers!

Ross Edwards
831 Posted 12/01/2014 at 18:42:57
I know Paul, I was stunned that he was even in the squad yesterday. He doesn't contribute anything useful or beneficial in any way, shape or form.

Apart from that goal v Chelsea of course.

Matt Traynor
832 Posted 12/01/2014 at 18:07:11
"You have to go all the way back to Sunday 22 December 2002 for the last time we played the first Merseyside derby of a season at Anfield rather than Goodison Park. I wonder why that is?"

This comes up time and time again.

It's done like this at our request - Derby at Goodison first, as the club is worried that having the Derby at home in the second half of the season would impact on ST sales.

Matt Traynor
833 Posted 12/01/2014 at 18:07:11
"You have to go all the way back to Sunday 22 December 2002 for the last time we played the first Merseyside derby of a season at Anfield rather than Goodison Park. I wonder why that is?"

This comes up time and time again.

It's done like this at our request - Derby at Goodison first, as the club is worried that having the Derby at home in the second half of the season would impact on ST sales.

Dennis Ng
836 Posted 12/01/2014 at 18:48:40
Matt, really? There's a correlation on that?
Phil Sammon
842 Posted 12/01/2014 at 18:59:10
Surely you can't 'request' when you play certain teams. Not saying you're wrong, Matt, but surely...you're wrong.
Ross Edwards
845 Posted 12/01/2014 at 19:05:57
Surely Phil it would be at the request of the Premier League.

An Anfield Derby second would create more interest for TV as there is more to play for than if it would be at the start of the season.

That's my (wrong) take on it.

Patrick Murphy
848 Posted 12/01/2014 at 19:07:32
Matt is correct in what he has said; for whatever reason, Everton did ask for the first game to always be played at Goodison – a decision which baffles me but they must have had their reasons... One of which may have been that they didn't want to host a derby game at Goodison that had too much riding on it and could lead to behaviour that would show Evertonians in a bad light. Which is also strange considering we have played Man City and Man Utd in the second half of the season without any particular problems and under the lights.

Dennis Ng
850 Posted 12/01/2014 at 19:12:47
Yes, my sentiments too. If I can choose, I rather play the other top teams away in the first half and home in the second. Heck, if we can play the first 19 games away, I'd go for that! I would think it is to our advantage to have the hard games at home at a latter day to digest them. Not sure if winter plays a part to why we have such a request. But I can see how consumer trends might be a bit different from what we expect.
Dennis Ng
852 Posted 12/01/2014 at 19:16:26
Paul T, my only difference to your ratings is Lukaku Osman and Pienaar 7, Barry 9. It was a masterclass by Barry. The other 3 did not have that much of a great day but they held up the midfield well. Considering how much Norwich was able to pressure us after Pienaar and Osman left, I think it's obvious their presence was missed.
Kevin Tully
853 Posted 12/01/2014 at 19:21:36
Here's a link to how fixtures are compiled:


The clubs obviously have a say in the schedule.

Harold Matthews
889 Posted 12/01/2014 at 20:26:10
Trevor / Paul F. Thanks for putting Mr Traill right on the ratings. I also thought Barry was terrific and Howard was in good form.

If Baines stays, which looks likely, whats going to happen with Oviedo? This very talented and likeable lad has had a raw deal throughout his Everton career.

Dennis Ng
892 Posted 12/01/2014 at 20:46:48

I might be reading too much between the lines but I remember RM said that McGeady can contribute to the experience or learning or something of that matter.

My belief and this is the same for many players is to cross train players into other positions, probably the first being Oviedo. That will also be true for other players of cos if my guess is right.

I'm equally surprised Ovideo not having a part in Norwich, but if RM fully rotates between him and Baines, say Oviedo playing the full Brom game, I actually don't see a problem short term.

Gareth Prytherch
893 Posted 12/01/2014 at 20:30:07
Just on the fixtures thing, I'll try and find the link but in the Guardian before the last Derby it was stated that it is done because there have been occasions when a whole calendar year has passed without a home derby.

There was a thread on here about it, I don't know if anyone can search the site for it.

Wayne Smyth
920 Posted 12/01/2014 at 21:48:07
Thought Pienaar had a great game. Worked really hard, kept and used the ball very intelligently.

I'd agree with Paul Ferry that Stones had a bit of an off day too. Seemed to get caught out by a few long balls....but he's young and will have learned some lessons hopefully.

As for Naismith, again useless performance with nothing positive. If it weren't for the fact that most of our reserve players who are close to the first team are off getting valuable experience in the lower leagues, I'd have one of them on the bench without hesitation ahead of Naismith.

I'm sure Naismith isn't as shit as he's showing. He probably plays better in and around the box where he doesn't need pace, to be able pass, or to get past anyone, but played on the wing or in midfield he's as bad a footballer as I think I've ever seen. How you've given him the same rating as Pienaar or Osman is beyond me.

Harold Matthews
926 Posted 12/01/2014 at 22:20:54
Dennis. You may be right with the changing positions thing. He's always going on about being creative with transfers, team selection etc, and I believe it was he who turned Swans winger Britton into a DM.
Dennis Ng
930 Posted 12/01/2014 at 22:40:53
Harold, let's hope so. That is what I would do for sure.

My first option though is not Oviedo but Baines into a DM. Quite a few reasons for that, tactical, cover, skill set and succession wise. But it's really personal preference. And surely RM sees things that I didn't consider yet, e.g. age, transfer or a million reasons.

I can see Oviedo and Coleman being trained as wingers or into Bale-ish players. The reason I say Oviedo first is his natural flexible positions and availability of direct cover, although I consider Coleman closer to the Bale mold than Oviedo. Based on what I see of course, which might be a selective sample of their performance.

We'll see. Injuries will be the headliner for the next 2 weeks but I'm sure we'll see a bit of this transformation coming soon.

Harold Matthews
959 Posted 13/01/2014 at 00:14:35
Dennis. I'm not sure we've got a 6'-2" flying machine like Bale on the books. He's one of these new fangled inverted wingers who operate on their un-natural wing so they can cut in and shoot with their stronger foot. Mirallis and Deulofeu occasionally try it but I don't think Martinez ever has Bale in mind. In fact, he might prefer them to stay on their natural flank because it offers more options.
Dennis Ng
965 Posted 13/01/2014 at 01:17:56
Harold, I see, you have a point there. I agree with your train of thought. Now that you mention, I remember his highlight reels from the right flank instead of left. I could see that pure pace wise, they are not there but they will be better in other things that Bale is not good at. I often wonder the differences in wing play but you've definitely given me a lesson on that! Aiden plays both flanks (I think) so perhaps he will take the front end of Barkley's load and transfer some of that knowledge to our wing backs. Pure guess.
David Ellis
970 Posted 13/01/2014 at 02:26:40
I thought Naismith played quite well on Saturday. As he came on I confidently told my 10year old he was one to look out for because he was rubbish....but honestly he wasn't. Rarely miscontrolled the ball, rarely gave it away, nice little dribble in the box...quite a tidy cameo in my opinion.

Having said that the whole team seemed to fall apart when Naismith came on, but I don't think we can blame him for that.

Matt Traynor
973 Posted 13/01/2014 at 03:03:17
Phil #842, the fixtures have been scheduled by computer for years. There's interviews out there on the web with the guy who maintains the algorithim.

There are certain parameters they try to work in. (Travel distances over Xmas and New Year being one, though sometimes you wouldn't think so).

Police forces also have input, as well, obviously, as TV companies. It's no coincidence that Sky's "Super Sunday" of the top 4 playing each other on the same weekend is a regular occurrence.

Clubs can also make requests. Everton's request was purely from a commercial point of view that they would prefer to host the Goodison Derby in before Xmas, as they fear having it after Xmas would adversely affect Season Ticket sales (but lead to more people buying half STs). That's why this season they make a big play of "Man Utd, Man City and Arsenal included in the ST deal".

Liverpool were happy to go along with this as it gives them a home derby on the run in to their eventual title win... er...

It's been this way for years now. It's up to you if you believe me or not. I've been wrong before, I'm sure I will be again in the future.

Harold Matthews
975 Posted 13/01/2014 at 02:46:07
Dennis. Despite my surname, I'm not an expert on wing play by any stretch of the imagination. Bale, Ronaldo, Robben and Ribery play the inverted way but it severely limits crosses into the box a la orthodox wingers like Valencia. These days the crosses come via fullbacks like Baimes, Oviedo and the City pair, who have about five assisrs each but underlying everything will be the managers strategy. Players going out and doing things willy nilly will not last long.

David. You got it right with Naismith. People calling him useless are insulting Martinez.

Dennis Ng
976 Posted 13/01/2014 at 03:57:34
Harold and David, definitely agree with Naismith performance. I find it odd that we lost more possession after he came in but not because of him. I think it's just one of those, useful player, not a tactical fit. Love his workrate.

Harold, yep, that's the same way in NFL or other sports too. Even with the license to roam, I'm sure there are defined tasks for each position. Even Barkley seems to be defined within a certain area and tasks based on the tactic.

As for the winger role, I've never given it much thought, so when you mentioned the regular vs inverted, it made sense. It does seem to me that McGeady will have a more diversified winger role while they might get Coleman and Oviedo to do winger duties. Wonder if we'll get someone to be the target man for the crosses but that might be a distraction form the way the current team plays. If I'm to judge from the Noriwch game, we might be able to benefit from those speedy strikers with a delicate touch.

David Ellis
977 Posted 13/01/2014 at 05:05:25
Dennis - to be honest I would prefer if we did not have to play Naismith - but he did OK on Saturday. I think he will drop out of Martinez' plans in the summer.
Dennis Ng
978 Posted 13/01/2014 at 05:10:10
David, that is almost for certain given the circumstance. I've come to forget his position. A winger, no crosses, just chasing the ball like a headless chicken sometimes. I feel sad for him because he works very hard and does OK in everything, just not where we're headed.

I was thinking, given his workrate, is it possible to convert him to a DM? I know size and height might be an issue but it does open options for both us and Naismith. More ball winner than control or playmaker.

Phil Sammon
980 Posted 13/01/2014 at 06:53:16

One of your more insane suggestions there I think.

David Ellis
981 Posted 13/01/2014 at 06:56:09
Dennis - don't think so. He can't tackle for a start. Anyway we have no need to force round pegs into square holes. We can now attract decent players and a manager that plays them in their best positions.

Oh - how's the plan to spend less time on ToffeeWeb going? You must be asleep by now surely - it must be 3am for you!

Phil Traynor
984 Posted 13/01/2014 at 07:22:24
Why has the first derby match of the season been played at Goodison every year since 2003?

The ToffeeWeb article referred to above, http://www.toffeeweb.com/season/13-14/comment/talkingpoints/26106.html, advises, "So keenly anticipated is the Merseyside derby that for the last 10 years, alone in the Premier League, it has been governed by special rules. The first fixture will now always be at Goodison and the second, after Christmas, at Anfield. This prevents supporters having to wait more than a year for what they always used to consider their most important home fixture and avoids the situation that cropped up 50 years ago, whereby Goodison Park did not see a derby game during the whole of 1963". The quote is taken from an article in the Guardian, http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/nov/21/everton-liverpool-merseyside-derby.

Personally, I think this explanation is a smokescreen. I can't find a link, but I have previously seen a more plausible reasoning, along the lines that a lot of Everton fans buy season tickets to guarantee attending the derby. If the Goodison derby is in the first half of the season then a full season ticket needs to be purchased, if it's in the second half of the season, a half season ticket will suffice. In my opinion, the special rules were introduced and have been maintained by the powers-that-be at Goodison.

Apologies that I can't find a way to slag off our bastard offspring on this occasion.


Peter Roberts
037 Posted 13/01/2014 at 13:43:50
Never mind 1963, the same happened in 1995.

94-95 season results:

Liverpool (h) W 2-0 (21 November 1994)
Liverpool (a) D 0-0 (24 January 1995)

95-96 season results:

Liverpool (a) W 2-1 (18 November 1995)
Liverpool (h) D 1-1 (16 April 1996)

So it has happened in the Premier League era.

Sam Higgins
079 Posted 13/01/2014 at 16:12:20
I don't know why folks are quick to criticise Paul's field reports he always provides a subjective narrative on the days events with the added flavour of the banter before and after the match which I enjoy. It takes time to compile these reports and yet some people are so quick to jump all over them - so u saw the game differently - probably cause u were watching it on a PC screen rebuffering every 10 seconds and not actually in the flesh at Goodison. Added to that u have to give the man kudos for having a German misses - I was seeing a Swiss bird not so long ago - also called Katja and my goodness they sure are rampant those bavarian lasses. If he has made an error its probably due to lack of sleep.
Fran Kearney
091 Posted 13/01/2014 at 16:32:14
Great report, Paul,

It's a shame some posters on here feel the need to disect your very comprehensive view of the game and performance ratings, trying to score points like children is not clever, same old crowd dishing out the same old sarcasm. have a go yourselvesif you think its so easy,

I've just seen Sam Higgins post, you beat me to it Sam

John Hughes
207 Posted 13/01/2014 at 22:09:15
Just to concur with Sam and Fran.As an exile in the south-west I enjoy Paul's reports very much thank you and let us not forget that there is no right or wrong opinion when it comes to footy. Keep 'em coming Paul and thanks for taking the trouble.
Patrick Murphy
211 Posted 13/01/2014 at 22:29:22
Sam I admire your defence of Paul's report and like most things football related everything is subjective. However you and I could sit next to each other in the best seats at Goodison and still have a completely different view on what took place - A laptop or PC monitor does not in itself make the views of some posters any less valid.

Just in case your wondering I regularly attend the Grand Old Lady.

Stephen Brown
212 Posted 13/01/2014 at 22:25:45
I also really enjoy your reports Paul. the player ratings are always a good way to start a debate as inevitably different people will view the game slightly differently . On Naismith - he isn't really that good but you've got to admire a team player! I hope he can contribute in a small way as he seems like a good pro and decent fella !
Dennis Ng
213 Posted 13/01/2014 at 22:30:02
Phil, David, yea, I was asleep a bit after that last post. I am on Central time, so an extra hour later from east coast.

Figures that the idea was way out there with Naismith. He works hard tho, but best to offload him in the summer, good for both parties.

We can beat rs any day. It's really down to tactics, some luck and quite honestly, refs. Sunday refs are horrible! And from what I heard its not an EPL thing.

Terry Davies
321 Posted 14/01/2014 at 09:00:32
Da iawn, Brian

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