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Kris Boner
1 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:02:35
McAleny back from injury and making the bench. Nice to see.
Kris Boner
2 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:02:35
McAleny back from injury and making the bench. Nice to see.
Steven Telford
3 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:03:49
Pitch is going to be messy, hope we can tuck this one away and not incur any injuries.
Dean Adams
4 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:05:17
Wow, lots of defensive types on the bench then!!
Jon Ferguson
6 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:06:47
It will be interesting to see how Hibbert plays under Martinez. He's quality at tackling and man marking, but League 1 standard on the ball. Maybe the extra attention to technique in training has improved his ball skills.
Kieran Fitzgerald
7 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:12:39
I think that Gueye may get some game time. This is his chance to show that his loan was a successful one.

Jon @610, Hibbert was starting to get a bit more adventurous before his injury. He was goiung forward more and his passing and crossing were getting better. You never know!

Pat Finegan
8 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:15:06
I love how the match preview says "Hibbert starting with Lukaku on the bench". Makes it sound like Hibbo is filling in at striker.
Laszlo Balazs
9 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:19:17
So, a possible 4-4-2 formation? Or Mirallas in lonely striker role? I'm excited.
Steven Telford
10 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:50:50
Nooooooooooo Oviado - fuck this pitch!
James Byrne
11 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:53:25
Horror injury for Oviedo............what a absolute shame. Straight to hospital.
Kevin Rowlands
12 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:55:06
That's a broken leg/ankle, season ender for sure, damn!
Steven Telford
13 Posted 25/01/2014 at 18:00:10
I don't think we should be risking Mirallas for 90 mins on this pitch, because if he gets injured..............

we have 2 goals now, take him off at half time.

Kevin Rowlands
14 Posted 25/01/2014 at 18:04:03
Amazing what can happen when you are being played in your proper position, maybe we've found another striker here for the rest of the season, nice one Nais!
Gerry McGuirk
15 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:57:45
Tragedy for Oviedo.....can only hope it is not as bad as it looks. Good start but we need another one at least to put this to be bed early. The last thing we want is a dogfight in these conditions. At least my young lad's Everton is beating Utd 4-0 on FIFA 14! GOAL Naismith.....YOU BEAUTY. One more and we can start getting those vital for Tuesday off this potato patch!
Jim Bennings
16 Posted 25/01/2014 at 17:58:59
I just don't believe this fucking injury shit.

How many more,,?? For fucks sake why do none of them cheating horrible redshite never get injuries like this?

That is damn sad for Bryan Oviedo one of the most likeable players at the club and if he misses the World Cup its a tragedy it is. It also means that Baines is back in his comfort zone again, providing he can stay fit.

Martinez must surely now have a re-think about the comments saying Traore is our last business in January. Does he really think that we are not going to get anymore injuries this season? This is Everton, the club is jinxed with injuries, we have players dropping like flies.

2-0 now thanks to Naismith..Done ok he has took his goals well enough. The more pressing matter now has to be this horrendous injury crisis. Kone, Gibson,Deulofue, Barkley,Oviedo, Coleman and Pienaar, we may aswell add Traore to that if what Martinez says is accurate.

Fuckin gutted even though we are 2-0 up.

Jim Bennings
17 Posted 25/01/2014 at 18:07:21
Kev Rowlands

I wouldnt say it was so much amazing what Naismith has done, you have to take into account the opposition really.
I agree that Naismith is more useful played central and I don't think I have ever had complaints about the lads work ethic, plus he is more than good in the air, I believe if Naismith was used regularly you would see something similar to a Tim Cahill type player.

Limited technically but will always make a real nusiance of himself.

Trevor Lynes
18 Posted 25/01/2014 at 18:09:15
I reckon Roberto will need to change his mind over doing business during this transfer window. Instead of being stronger, we are definitely weaker. We have spent none of the profits on the Fellaini and Anichebe transfers and now there must be extra money with Jelavic leaving!

Traore is not fit and will only be available for about ten games according to Roberto so where are we gaining strength????

Gutted for Oviedo, seems a great lad and he fitted right in to our tactics under our new manager.

Kevin Rowlands
19 Posted 25/01/2014 at 18:25:00
I agree Jim, he's a real nuisance in that position, unfortunately for Oviedo it looks and sounds real bad, no WC for him I fear.
Steven Telford
20 Posted 25/01/2014 at 18:21:47
That's very sad that Poor Oviado who just broke into the first 11, and with a South American world cup on the way......... poor guy, really deserved better luck than that.

Now. RM, please don't leave Mirallas on too long, if he pick up an injury, the derby will be too much a climb.

Who should make it back from injury for the Derby, Colman? Pienaar? Delboy? ........... Ross? fingers crossed.

Jermaine Jennings
21 Posted 25/01/2014 at 18:36:42
Dropping like flies!! Oviedo fucking quality and I'm so gutted for him... and now Jags off!!! Come back, Oviedo — quickly... we need you, matey!!!
Jim Bennings
22 Posted 25/01/2014 at 18:34:52
Steven, if someone offered me a point on Tuesday now I would rip their hand off. The spawny Redshite have been blessed by some fuckin mythical force before this derby thats for sure, how much ill fortune can you have?

I feel so sad for Oviedo, who had outshone Baines this season, never thought I would be saying that before this season started but its fact.

Mark Dunford
23 Posted 25/01/2014 at 18:33:33
Dreadful injury to add to an awful list. Can only hope against hope that it isn't as bad as it looks on the twitter photo.

Bad link but the pitch looks like it has been freshly ploughed. Judging by the rain this afternoon in NW London, there may well be reasonable questions about whether this would have been played without bright lights of TV shining down.

Jim Bennings
24 Posted 25/01/2014 at 18:52:30
Why does Martinez not get Mirallas off and replace him with Gueye or Velios..Its asking for trouble if we get anymore injuries.

We have wrapped the game up, its just what we wanted today an easy game so now get out of the match without anymore shit happening.

Lets not forget that we have to beat the referee on Tuesday aswell, we know that Liverpool F.C get away with bear hugging in the box when defending corners, I am not sure if its some unwritten law that was made that its ok when their defenders do it. So taking into account that we will be up against the ref aswell on Tuesday with injuries its going to be hard.

Rob O'Brien
25 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:30:39
Any word on why Jags went off???
Si Cooper
26 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:23:09
Job done. Some nice stuff against limited opposition, some poor stuff maybe influenced by a pitch that did deteriorate in the second half.

Bryan O may have a chance for the world cup if it is a clean break that can be set easily. 3 months for the bone to heal, and then intensive training for a couple of months may put him in the frame (if there is no associated ligament damage). Unlikely to be turning out for us again this season though.

Mark Frere
27 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:26:35
Good routine win against a vastly inferior team. My heart goes out to Oviedo - wishing him a speedy recovery - he's such a bright prospect - so unfortunate!

Barry is probably only Baines's natural replacement at LB now, so there's even more urgent need for CM cover. I'm so gutted with the amount of injuries and I really hope RM hasn't finished recruiting this month.

Ross Edwards
28 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:33:03
Great win, we did it for Bryan, a professional, efficient job done today.

Get well soon Bryan, COYB!!

Mick Davies
29 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:34:47
2 games, 8 goals scored and none conceded. A favourable draw next round and hopefully all the way, without conceding. Pity Oviedo won't be playing any part in the rest of the season. Hope it's not as bad as first reported.
Nick Armitage
30 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:40:20
Anyone else think Joey Barton is a good pundit?
Steve Brown
31 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:39:31
The commentator also said Jags went off as he was feeling his hamstring.
Stephen Brown
32 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:42:59
I agree Nick, I think Barton will make an excellent pundit as he is not afraid to be controversial a bit like Roy keane but unlike Shearer et al. Plus despite the horrible incidents he has been involved in its good to have a blue perspective on events!
Conn Prosser
33 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:38:18
Devastated for Oviedo. He was one I thought was going to be a World Cup star as well as one of our best this season.

Good win today - calm the nerves for Tuesday.

I thought Mirallas looked a lot happier in the middle. Naismith looked confident - he always knew where Mirallas was. Baines looked a little uninterested - not very many attacks from him. We definitely need cover at LB now. Robles looked sound but his distribution was shocking - hoof balls against Stevenage? McGeady looks useful, let's hope Martinez can coach some final ball into him.

Feeling very good about RS though, bring on Tuesday.

Zaid Omar
34 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:46:26
Just heard Martinez post match on BEIN sports... Oviedo has 2 fractures in his leg/ankle.. Out for significant amount of time!! Tough luck for Bryan especially as he will now miss the world cup as well.. When asked about any players coming back from injury for the Derby, Martinez didn't seem too confident.. He says will just have to get on with it as its part of he game
Kevin Tully
35 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:50:44
Can anyone feel another loan coming on?
John Audsley
36 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:55:28
No more loans left Kevin
Kevin Rowlands
37 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:56:02
Can we bring Garbutt back from his loan? Looking at some tweets from Colchester fans recently they claim he's been outstanding and their player of the season so far,
Ian Bennett
38 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:00:30
Thought Naismith looked so much happier central. Liked Mirallas behind the striker also. Hope we get some of the squad back fit soon.
Terry Davies
39 Posted 25/01/2014 at 19:51:10
I'd rather we lost and Brian was OK. Devastated. He's one of those people I've never met but instinctively like. Obviously loved Everton and one of a very very few players who played with a smile on his face and obviously (again) loved playing and was happy to play when given the chance: the antithesis of a Prima Donna. Get well soon Brian, I wish we had more like you and hope we will see you back
Mike Green
40 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:15:57
Looks like a horrible break, hopefully it's not as bad as it looks and he makes a full recovery. Pleased with the result tonight but that injury wipes it out for me, sickener.
Paul Ferry
41 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:19:00
Know what you mean Terry - 689 - agree with every word but at least the win will give Bryan some scant consolation. Professional today. Comfy. But we were all living under the awful shadow of what happened to our Bryan. He'll be even stronger when he comes back.

We might need some light relief. Anyone else seen this; Goole skipper loses it when he gets sent off today and dives into the crowd to attack Coalville supporters, shouldn't be funny I know, or perhaps gobsmacking is a better word

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YabU2GUDLDk

Stewart Hayward
42 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:16:23
John (682) - We can sign more players on loan, just not from any clubs in EPL, Football League or English non-league. We can sign as many loans from clubs outside of England as we want because of a loophole in premier league rules.

The Premier League rules relating to temporary loan transfers are contained in Section 5, Rule V5 to V10 of the Premier League Handbook. They restrict the number of loan players a Premier League team can have in one season to four and no more than one player can be loaned from a particular club. No more than two players can be registered at one time by a club (unless that player becomes permanent or is an emergency goalkeeper). V6 of the handbook defines loans as being between premiership teams as well as from football league and 'non league' teams in England.

The Loophole:
The Premier League rules do not contain such restrictions in relation to international loans. When a player joins a club from an international association, the premier league recognise that player as a new signing. They do not register that player as a loan signing but as a permanent transfer while FIFA recognise the player as being on loan. So, in essence, a team could have 11 international loan players in the team on a match day without breaking any Premier League regulations.

I suspect if do get top 4, this loophole will be closed next season to only allow teams to have two 'temporary' players regardless of whether domestic or international.

Paul Thompson
43 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:18:18
Considering the pitch, weather and terrible injury for Oviedo, this was a very decent display.

Mirallas definitely man of the match. He won't get that rom in the PL, but it a position that gives him the opportunity to use the space and his skills. Naismith has always been a tidy finisher in the box and proved so again today. It will have done McGeady the world of good to get 90 mins in. Osman also played very well when he came on.

Barry had his worst game in an Everton shirt and Stones looked very hesitant at times. He's a great prospect, but I hope we don't have to play him in the derby.

Phil Walling
44 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:26:53
Straight break, tibia and fibia. As with everyone else, absolutely gutted for the guy. One of the finds of the season.....and he was here all the time!

Good performance today and well done, Nais! All those who questioned my view of Robles must now agree. He tried hard to concede but his defence saved him from a self-destruct.

Add a new goalie to that emergency signing list.

Jamie Barlow
45 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:43:59
I must have been watching a different Everton keeper.
Kevin Rowlands
47 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:48:57
Absolute rubbish as per usual Phil, the lad had a couple of shaky moments but overall had a good game and made 2/3 outstanding saves, and as for Oviedo, yes he was here all the time, just like Barkley, it does make you wonder why your hero never played them, doesn't it.
Raymond Fox
48 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:49:58
Phil, get to Boot's first thing Monday and say you want your eyes testing, because Robles had a great game!

Its about time you retired.

Alan Khan
49 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:52:31
I'm really gutted that Oviedo picked up such a bad injury. He has been one of our best performers this season and seems like a decent fellow too. The reactions of the players on the field illustrated the seriousness of the knock. I wish Bryan a speedy recovery...

Phil Walling
50 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:55:53
Ray, are you seriously telling me YOU would sign this guy? He just cannot catch the ball!!!!
Peter Jones
51 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:54:56
Robles dropped ball for their main chance of game. Yes he made some good saves later but it wouldn't have made up for that drop if they had scored.
Raymond Fox
53 Posted 25/01/2014 at 20:58:31
I cant remember any dropped ball, I know Stone's gave him a dodgy back pass very early on, but I couldn't blame him for that.

I know he made 2 or 3 very good full length saves during the game, when it mattered.

Yes Phil, I'd sign him no problem.

Tim Keyes
54 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:03:30
Phil you must have been watching a different game, apart from dropping one ball (which Howard has done regularly over the years) he had a really good game. Pitches like that aren't great for any player but they are especially difficult for keepers. He's only a young lad and a great prospect
Marcus Reynolds
55 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:03:19
We just have to bring in 2 or 3 new players from now till Friday. We just don't have the strength in depth now with the amount of injuries we have rocked up in the last six weeks. I knew it was to good to be true.
Phil Walling
56 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:05:08
OK, Ray, we agree to disagree. Regretably, I have to predict that if Roberto continues to select him he will be DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for our eventual exit from this competition.
Kevin Rowlands
57 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:11:17
Just like Roberto was going to be DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for our relegation struggle this season, right Phil?
Phil Walling
58 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:16:06
I was referring to Robles.
Kevin Rowlands
59 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:17:03
I know, I was referring to your predictions pre season when RM was appointed, if that's anything to go by Robles will be just fine!
Andy Crooks
60 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:11:26
Phil, how about having a go at a positive prediction? Say, something like, I think he'll save a penalty in the semi final. For years on this site I have bowed to know one in my pessimism and glass half-emptiness. You know what, I have been nothing more than a toy curmudgeon. You have raised the bar to new heights of misery.Respect!
Raymond Fox
61 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:18:20
Phil, he played in every round in the Cup for Wigan and I seem to remember they won it, beating Man City 1-NIL.
Richard Farrington
62 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:16:56
Nick (670) - yes I agree - he has balls and doesn't come out with the same old safe crap that most of the 'pundits' do. He is a bit of a rebel with a liking for the different, he likes Morrissey, another one who pushes against the grain.

He had that pratt David James on the ropes in he interview after the game but the tit of a presenter nipped it in the bud before Joey went for the jugular.

Phil Walling
63 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:19:33
Kevin, why is it now compulsory to overlook any weak link in our side because it is perceived that Martinez can do no wrong?

Do we have to ignore the evidence in the cause of worshipping this new god?

As I've oft repeated as soon as we lose two in a row his deity will be scorned.

Drew Shortis
65 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:15:53
I thought that Roubles had a good game overall. Yes he did have a few wobbly moments, but he also made some important saves. Remember he is still a young keeper and is still learning and building up his confidence. Every keeper drops a howler now and again, people should give the lad a fair chance and not right him off after one or two errors, he will improve!

I agree that we could do with one or two reinforcements, especially with Oviedo out and Heitinga off. The tricky bit is finding players with enough quality that are available in January. Are there any free agents we could sign on short contracts who will see us through like Hitzelsperger did last year. I wouldn't want us to waste money on below par players who won't get a game when everyone is fit again.

Craig Fletcher
66 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:19:50
A positive for me was McGeady. Looked comfortable on the ball, and he reacted well to set up Nais for the first goal. Looked like he was playing within himself at times (not surprising given this was his first full 90 minutes for a long while) but in general he looked good.

Naismith too would have got a lot of confidence from this game, Miralles I thought was superb - on a crap pitch he almost always managed to dribble past one or two defenders and seemed to have a lot of time on the ball. He deserved a goal.

Barry not quite at his best, and Baines looked busy but still nowhere near the heights he hit in 2012/13.

But the result absolutely overshadowed by what happened to Bryan. Chin up lad, hope for the best and look forward to seeing you in the blue shirt again before too long.

Steve Guy
67 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:27:05
For someone who gets limited match practice I thought Robles played really well. For the first time in many seasons I am not as concerned of Tim H can't play. Generally thought we played well and were clinical. Here's to a decent draw in the 5th !
David Greenwood
68 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:30:41
Gutted for Bryan, real shame. Hope he makes a full, speedy recovery.

Very professional performance, clearly a game BT Sport thought we would struggle in but well done to Roberto and the lads.

Peter Jones
69 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:25:11
Stones didn't do much wrong. Robles did & Stones got him out of it. Lucky Spanyard!
Raymond Fox
70 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:29:55
Phil, I have to laugh mate, you must be some kind of a masochist, because you get beaten over the head with big sticks every time you open you mouth!
Kevin Rowlands
71 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:25:34
I'm not ignoring or overlooking any weak link in our side, why, because I believe Robles is a fine young goalkeeper and had a decent game today.

Also Phil, its complete crap when you say that Martinez is getting a free ride from criticism on here or from most Evertonians, after that very poor performance against West Brom he got plenty of criticism and rightly so.

The difference between most of us and you is we choose to look at the positives after a 4-0 win against tricky opposition, with a lot of players out due to injury or being rested, you of course don't.

Phil Walling
72 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:37:09
It's a game of opinions, Raymond, and I respect your's as genuinely held. I comment on what I see and the way I feel.I don't follow the herd or worship at the shrine - whether it be Martinez or Moyes.
David Greenwood
73 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:34:38
Phil @728, no we don't have to ignore the evidence of worshipping this new god.

Clearly you are, but the rest of us (well you and a couple of others excepted) can see exactly what's going on.

Positive approach, no more negativity, lots of good football (there was some last season but nothing like this season).

Smiles on peoples faces, fans and players clearly enjoying themselves.

No fear, just a belief in the team that we are heading in the right direction.

Go on smile, it wont hurt :)

Raymond Fox
75 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:37:45
Peter, it never ceases to amaze me how different spectators can watch the same game and come away with completely polar views!

I think its maybe bias, or one has no bloody idea what their watching!

Colin Glassar
76 Posted 25/01/2014 at 21:55:16
Phil, do you still think we will get relegated? San Roberto believes otherwise.
Paul Hughes
77 Posted 25/01/2014 at 22:03:43
Agree that Barton made a decent pundit. Seemed to say it as he sees it, which makes a change. Slagged off the horrible Pardue as well at one point - which was nice.
Mark Taylor
78 Posted 25/01/2014 at 22:12:30
Everyone sees things differently. Very true. For what it's worth, here's my rating
Robles- Not impressed, too many fumbles and panic kicks
Hibbert- Pretty good, given the long absence
Stones- Will be good but scares me for now, very raw
Jags- OK
Baines- Competent but uninspired. Seems a bit out of sorts.
Barry- Not as bad as some on here are saying
McCarthy- Pretty anonymous, was he saving himself for RS?
Oviedo- Looked useful, as usual. Best wishes for recovery
McGeady- Encouraging start but faded
Mirallas- Easily our best player
Naismith- Better in this role than as wide midfield

Osman played well when he came on, Heitinga was as good (or as average) as Jags, Gueye wasn't on long enough but appears to have morphed into Rocky.

Terry Davies
79 Posted 25/01/2014 at 22:16:38
Bloody hell: Robles had a decent game and made at least two good saves; give the lad a bit of praise which may help give him some confidence. Who said Barry had his worst game for the club? What? I really must have been watching some other game. For heaven's sake lets look at the positives (and there really have been plenty this season). Why on earth do some of you WANT to look on the down side all the time: I hope to Christ the players don't log into TW or morale would be non existent.
Brian Wilkinson
80 Posted 25/01/2014 at 22:12:36
Not sure why people are unsure about Robles, it's hard to come in for a game then dropped til the next round of the cup, that's 5 FA cup games now Robles has kept a clean sheet, the guy has not conceded in the FA cup since the last 16 last season.

I have a lot more conference in this keeper than I did in Richard Wright, Paul Gerrard, Steve Simenson and uncle festa Mucha,

Gutted for Oviedo, one of the most liked players, even reds are messaging wishing the guy a speedy recovery, I doubt there is a fan anywhere who dislikes Oviedo.

Was having kittens over the length of time Miralles was kept on and pretty sure fellow Evertonans were praying the guy got subbed before he got an injury.

Harold Matthews
81 Posted 25/01/2014 at 23:27:54
Peter Jones. You watched a different Stones to the one who rattled my nerves all afternoon.
David Graves
82 Posted 25/01/2014 at 23:50:47
Phil your knowledge of anatomy is as suspect as your football knowledge - its tibia and fibula.
Phil Walling
83 Posted 25/01/2014 at 23:57:53
Must be the way the Spaniard said it !
Mick Davies
84 Posted 26/01/2014 at 00:06:26
The Robles 'fumble' was nothing like that: he received a high and hard back pass that he couldn't pick up. How many times has Howard made hard work of Distin's back passes this season?
Tommy Coleman
85 Posted 26/01/2014 at 00:33:30
We win 4-0 and Phil Whingebag cries about our reserve goalkeeper.

Desperate to be right but still always wrong.

Good professional performance, well done Blues.

Steavey Buckley
86 Posted 26/01/2014 at 01:06:34
The terrible injury to Bryan Oviedo happened to one of football's nicest persons.
Tahir Abdullah
87 Posted 26/01/2014 at 04:50:43
Tommy 799, spot on re Phil. Doubters on Robles might want to keep in mind that he actually won this competition last season; his stats in last years FA Cup, saw home make 21 saves in 4 matches and in all 4 matches he was never on the losing side. No doubt he will make some mistakes, but that doesn't mean that we as EFC supporters should withdraw our support for him (or any of the other lads). Constructive criticism is appropriate.
Ajay Gopal
88 Posted 26/01/2014 at 10:13:09
Ha.. ha.. you whingers. Did you watch the howler by De Gea against Sunderland - supposedly the best goal-keeper in the league ? All goal-keepers make blunders. It is how they perform over a season that determines if they are good enough or not for the side, just as any other player. Robles will be a fine Everton goal-keeper, keep cool!
Colin Glassar
89 Posted 26/01/2014 at 10:46:17
Tommy, Phil wallower is the most miserable Evertonian I’ve ever come across. I bet he sits at home and moans, all day, about the weather, inflation, traffic, kids, wives, siblings, immigration, today’s tv, neighbours, animal rights etc, etc, etc........
George McKane
90 Posted 26/01/2014 at 11:46:52
I just wonder if PW moaned as much and as consistently at the selection, tactics, comments, bad decisions during the last 6 or so years of the woeful manager that Moyes was (in my opinion) or does he just dislike Martinez? To save further comment or speculation Phil be honest and tell us.

Me, I'm pretty open about it. Couldn' t stand Moyes after the first 4 years or so. Didn't like his style of football, tactics, media style, dealings in the transfer market (generally), But didn't moan at everything he did on TW.

Go on, PW, tell us what's it all about.

Brian Waring
91 Posted 26/01/2014 at 12:03:58
George, Phil was in love with Moyes. I wouldn't be surprised if there wasen't a shrine to him in his house.

Also, I could be wrong, but I'm sure Phil said we would be fighting relegation under Martinez.

Eugene Ruane
92 Posted 26/01/2014 at 12:31:30
George, if I painted my hole and ball-bag in luminous paint and danced bollocko next to Dickie Lewis, while screaming 'ARSEHOLES!' through a megaphone, I'd be LESS obvious than Phil Walling's reasons for his constant anti-Martinez posts.

For Phil, Moyes was a genius and Martinez would take us down.

It hasn't worked out that way and rather than him revising his position (like many have on Martinez without any loss of face) he throws his his toys (no doubt including a cuddly Moyesy bear) out of the pram with every post.

If he honestly believes any of us think his opinions on Martinez are based on facts or considered opinion rather than him wanting to be 'right', he is even more deluded than he appears.

Brian Denton
93 Posted 26/01/2014 at 13:00:11
Too much information, Eugene!

Brian Denton
94 Posted 26/01/2014 at 13:01:30
Too much information, Eugene!
George McKane
95 Posted 26/01/2014 at 13:03:07
Eugene, I am a Performance Poet (among other things to do with art and theatre). Maybe we could do a duet somewhere... lyrical and lovely and above all painted a picture that i will never forget.

Great stuff.

Cosmic grooves all the way.

Eugene Ruane
96 Posted 26/01/2014 at 13:20:45
You should post where you're performing, George, I'd come and watch (listen... whatever).
George McKane
97 Posted 26/01/2014 at 13:27:19
Eugene, that's good and pleasant of you.

I have an interesting way of working: no rehearsals or script — just turn up and create/develop something. I did a One-Man Piece in Koln recently and tried to explain to the promoter that I would make it up on the night, like Cool Hand Luke. I said "I've never planned nothing in my life" — they didn't quite get it but it was a tremendous night and they loved it.

Anyway, this is a football site; have a look at Facebook — The Dark House Blues for football. And my other work is on: www.yelowhouse.info.

I will keep in touch of course via Blue Stuff on TW.

Keep it cool — but mainly keep it cosmic.

Gavin McGarvey
98 Posted 26/01/2014 at 13:29:40
The hatred of big TVs is indeed strange. I can only assume it's a combination of it being seen as a working class thing, watching TV. Then there's this myth about people on benefits living like kings. Added in is the fact that they used to be really expensive and aren't anymore so I guess a certain class of people see it as a privilege they no longer retain exclusively. Life must be hard for them.

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