Martinez rules out big departures in January

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Roberto Martinez has moved to quash the inevitable media speculation surrounding his best players by saying that he will not entertain the notion of selling any of his top performers during next month's transfer window.

Newspaper articles have been suggesting that Chelsea will return in January with another bid for John Stones as soon as the summer window closed, while Seamus Coleman is the subject of dubious talk in Italy also linking him with Stamford Bridge and Romelu Lukaku's impressive goals return means that he is an easy topic for press outlets looking to fill column inches.

Just as he was in August when Stones's proposed transfer to the Champions was one of the biggest stories in football following his decision to hand in a transfer request, the Everton boss is adamant that the defender will be going nowhere next month and reports suggest that Stones himself has no intention of contemplating a move until the end of the campaign at least.

"It doesn't matter if a club come in," Martinez said in the Daily Star. "We created a squad during the summer to see how far we could go over the season. January doesn't come into consideration.

"We'll never lose anyone in January, unless it's somebody who hasn't been playing and we need to find a solution. If he's a top performer, it's not even a consideration.

"When you are right in the middle of a season, I think players understand that you can't sell someone if you can't replace him. I think the uncertainty comes in the summer, where everyone speaks about possibilities. That's where there's a constant debate and talk."

Coming in the wake of his frank and honest assessments of Steven Naismith and Kevin Mirallas's respective positions vis-a-vis their desire for first-team football, Martinez's comments hint further that Everton would be prepared to listen to offers for players who have been struggling to get into the side this season.

Naismith has stated his commitment to using the busy Festive period as an opportunity to win back his place in Martinez's starting XI while Mirallas has said that he might have to seek a move in January if wasn't a regular starter as he bids to stay in Marc Wilmots's thoughts for Belgium's Euro2016 squad.

It is not clear whether Martinez will look to replace any out-going players logic suggests he would have to but, in any case, there are concerns among supporters that the Blues are light in a couple of key areas, specifically a back-up striker and left-side attacking midfielder.


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Christy Ring
1 Posted 16/12/2015 at 23:16:18
So Howard, Barry and Kone are staying.
Mark Andersson
2 Posted 16/12/2015 at 23:57:26
Good write up, Lyndon. Had to laugh when you wrote "It is not clear whether Martinez will look to replace any out-going players – logic suggests he would have to" – since when does Roberto or the board do anything that involes logic?

Big question is who has Roberto got lined up for a loan spell. Lennon proved a good acquisition last year as he injected some fight, that influenced the others.

What do we need this year to make a difference and push on?

James Flynn
3 Posted 16/12/2015 at 00:14:28
January Possibilities:

McGeady if healthy

McAleny - Why is he still around?

Naismith because of what we've been told already.

Mirallas, God knows. What we DO know is that his age makes it a "now or never" for Roberto. There's plenty of interest AND money around for Roberto to entertain offers. I sure wish it could be worked out the guy stays.

Folks in here call for Pienaar, Hibbert, Osman, and Gibson to be gone. Where to? Gibson, if healthy will draw interest. The others will leave come the Summer.

With Mirallas and Gibson, I'll guess that results over the holiday season will determine Roberto's decision-making once the window opens. Maybe Naismith, too.

Of course, if an "out-of-the-blue offer for Barkley appears . . . . . . . .

Mike Price
4 Posted 17/12/2015 at 00:36:48
I just can't wait to see the back of Howard. Trouble is, no-one with a clue would want him, especially on the insane money we gifted him, and MLS can't afford him and/or aren't that stupid.
James Flynn
5 Posted 17/12/2015 at 01:42:50
Mike (4) - Tim leaving in January is out of the question, no matter who wants it.

In the Summer, though, MLS CAN afford him.

Over here, the opportunities to make money beyond a salary are many for Howard. Even Landon made more from endorsements than salary. The same is available for Tim. He's popular here.

What I hope is at the end of the season, Roberto takes his keepers aside for a minute and tells them that their position goes to the one earns it in the pre-season.

Anthony Dwyer
6 Posted 17/12/2015 at 01:52:45
I’ve always stated I wanted Mirallas to stay and Naismith to move on, even though Naismith is clearly grafts harder for the side, whereas Mirallas is much more talented.

Now though I think we need to move both players on, along with McGeady, to try and bring in a talented left-sided player to give us balance and hopefully push us up the league while it’s still all so tight.

We do need a backup striker too but a left-sided player is needed now for the first team and money brought in from the sale of the three players mentioned would provide ample funds to take a real talented player who could be a major player for us.

My estimates for the players is: Mirallas 㾶M; Naismith ٦M and McGeady ١M. Totalling 㿁M... possibly Pienaar for ٠M too.

That figure plus their wages would attract a diamond. Our club have scouts in place etc so I won’t push too many names but Draxler or Januzi from Man Utd would be an option and would fit into what we are doing with young players.

I do agree that a keeper is a priority but unfortunately Martinez doesn’t, so end of discussion as far as that goes.

A striker on loan would ease worries of what we would do if big Rom was injured.

Jimmy-Ã…ge Sørheim
8 Posted 17/12/2015 at 03:13:29
I think Martinez has totally forgotten his "big new loan strategy" which he said was our way to compete with the top 4.

He needs to get several loan players in, a keeper, defender, attacking midfielder and a striker.

If Martinez does not add quality to what little we have, this will be another missed opportunity.

Kunal Desai
10 Posted 17/12/2015 at 06:33:51
I think Stones and Lukaku will move on in the summer should we fail to secure a European spot.
Tony Abrahams
11 Posted 17/12/2015 at 07:59:05
Kunal, good point. What do you think would help to keep all our best players at Everton. Silverware or Champions League football?
Brian Harrison
13 Posted 17/12/2015 at 09:08:52
I think if we have any ambitions of challenging for a top 6 spot, we can't even think of letting Mirallas go.

Just look at the alternatives if Deulofeu or Kone get injured. Lennon or a recall for McGeady, even RM isn't that stupid. Mind he did sign Lennon in the first place, God knows why... he has always flattered to deceive all his career.

So let's look at what alternatives do we have if key players get injured. Also, Lukaku is going to need a break as he has played virtually every minute of every game so far.

Jim Bennings
14 Posted 17/12/2015 at 09:13:56
The only two on the move in January will be Naismith and Mirallas, with maybe one or two squad players like McGeady leaving but is he even fit?. Who's going to buy him if he's not fit?

The big question for me though is not so much the outgoings but what type of players we need to really push on.

Regardless of Martinez's stubborn belief that this team is going places, we still don't really look any closer to being a team good enough to challenge the top four places. The same mistakes that plagued us last season are still in clear evidence, the inability to see out a 1-0 lead, inability to keep clean sheets, inability to defend crossed balls, set-pieces and a blatant lack of leadership has held back some very good attacking play.

For all the good attacking football we've witnessed this season, by the same time as last season we have won just the same amount of games, only slightly better off points-wise due to a few more draws.

Knowing us, we will lose one or two in January but be happy to do our usual "go with what we have got".

For me, this season has been arguably as frustrating if not more than last because that top 4 really is up for grabs this time around, hell even the Premier League title is, nobody seems to want to win it! But again due to the usual failings we will ebb towards another "what could have been" season.

It could all change if for once we actually tried to speculate to accumulate in January, but we know we'll do nothing.

Jim Potter
16 Posted 17/12/2015 at 10:58:39
If we can get 㾶 mil for Mirallas and ٦ mil for Naismith I'd take it – on the condition we get some proven attacker in.

Mirallas seems already to have mentally 'left the building'. A great player on his day – but that 'day' tends to be twice a season.

Naismith – a real trier... just a tad limited.

McGeady – I'd pay someone to take him off our wages bill.

Gibson – will never sadly be fit enough. He let us and himself down with his drink-driving incident. Sell at the end of the season.

Summer – my Number One keeper choice would be Butland. Young, English and very talented.

I would love to see us keep Geri, Rom, Ross and Stonesy for years to come, but realistically this won't happen.

Do not sell Stones – his value will only sky rocket after the Euros. Regardless of money – keep him for as long as we can. At least one more season. Galloway and Browning are two of many promising youngsters who can help replace him when the inevitable occurs.

If Lukaku wants a move by the summer (NB he has that irritating agent) – make the buyer pay through the teeth 㿞 mil+.

With the 㿼 mil (?) TV dosh coming in on top of any sales then, if we purchase wisely, who knows...

Chris Odedun
17 Posted 17/12/2015 at 11:02:26
Have we ever really given Mirallas a run up top in the No 9 role rather than wide on the left?

I think Lukaku getting injured or tired is a risk and using Mirallas to offset this is a better option than bringing in a striker on loan.

Sam Hoare
18 Posted 17/12/2015 at 11:09:04
I suspect we will see little or no business in January. McGeady out and possibly one or two youngsters in. A loan if we are lucky.

The squad is fairly strong and if there is anywhere we have looked a bit suspect this month, then it's at the back. I can't see us splashing on a new centre-back after buying Funes Mori, who is beginning to convince me less after a strong start, so I reckon it will be 'as you were...'

Barry Pearce
19 Posted 17/12/2015 at 11:45:41
The problem for us will come in the summer if we don't achieve anything.
The gems will be leaving the jewellers I'm afraid.
Terence Tipler
22 Posted 17/12/2015 at 12:09:29
I do not think we will get rid of McGeady this window, as no-one will pay him the amount we are.
Raymond Fox
23 Posted 17/12/2015 at 12:57:00
Hands up who thought we were a top 4 side at the start of the season. Hopefully yes; realistically no.

The only way we are going to keep and attract the very top players is if we are a regular top 4 club and the only way that's going to happen is we have a change of ownership. Without super rich owners, it ain't going to happen, chaps, is it?

Slagging players off that are not good enough and blaming managers for our lack of success is criticising the wrong people.

As we are now, we are not a top 4 club; yes it's possible we could sneak in one season, but there's little chance we could consistently do it.

Jamie Crowley
24 Posted 17/12/2015 at 13:22:59
My hand is up Ray and I'll take it a step further.

I think we are, at this moment, a top 4 club this season.

The team is a young one but full of talent. The league at the top is weak. Patience is the key word and realizing there are going to be a plethora of points seemingly dropped.


If this squad plays to their potential, I see no reason they should not finish top 4.

Time will tell...

Harold Matthews
25 Posted 17/12/2015 at 13:27:43
Sounds like one or two will be on the move in January. Jim reckons Naismith and Mirallis but, personally, I haven't a clue. Naismith looks likely but finding a replacement for Mirallis would not be easy.

Yes Sam, a big test for Funes Mori coming up. A tough lad with two good feet and a tremendous attitude, both he and Baines will be faced with the task of stopping Mahrez, who loves to cut inside left-footed defenders. Barry will cover them and he is also left-footed. Happy days.

Right now, Leicester are the strongest team in the country with the two top players and the best overall fighting attitude. We are also quite hot at the moment and I'm hoping for a win. Our front lads should score goals and the opposition approach play should suit Howard.

Jamie Crowley
26 Posted 17/12/2015 at 13:28:04
I should also add that if we do not finish top 4 I do not see that as a failure.

The foundations are there, and if &150; IF &150; this squad remains intact at its core, it is only a matter of time, maturity, and experience, until we crack that proverbial glass ceiling.

I firmly believe this, and frankly don't care what the prevailing, majority opinion is.

This squad is either gold, or gold in the making.

Raymond Fox
27 Posted 17/12/2015 at 13:45:03
Jamie, if we can keep the injuries down we do have an outside chance of top 4, were 12/1 at the moment. Quite generous that price for me, especially after we've beaten Leicester!

Not trying to be a doom merchant, but another factor is the amount of money these clubs can offer the likes of Stones and Lukaku.

Anthony Lewis
28 Posted 17/12/2015 at 13:55:32
That's the biggest problem though, "what could've been". This team has so much potential, more than I have seen since the team of the 80's. And it's exactly this, that makes it so frustrating when we are conceding goals in the same manner as we have done for the past two years. Lessons aren't being learnt.

If we don't "achieve" something this season, the team will invariably break up and we will be left thinking "what could've been".

Come on Roberto, pull your finger out, get rid of the crap, buy in a decent keeper, a decent left mid/winger and another striker and let's go for it

Ian Jones
29 Posted 17/12/2015 at 14:10:59
Jack Rodwell seems to think he is going back to his central defender roots....would be good to see him fulfil his potential. Who knows. Even with us!

Not sure if he is cut out to be a central defender. Seems too nice.

Denis Richardson
30 Posted 17/12/2015 at 14:22:44
Get some cash for Naismith and McGeady and put this towards getting a top class goalie.
Kevin Rowlands
31 Posted 17/12/2015 at 14:34:07
Mcgeady, Mirallas, Naismith and (wishful thinking) Howard gone should easily give us enough cash to go and get Charlie Austin, with him and Lukaku up front, Kone coming off the bench we would have plenty of goals in us.
David Hallwood
32 Posted 17/12/2015 at 14:44:34
One thing about Martinez's stand regarding Stones in the summer, at least this time when he says No, it'll stop the tabloids droning on about it.

Breaking news, the special one's been sacked!!!

Jim Bennings
34 Posted 17/12/2015 at 15:13:25
At least John Stones to Chelsea probably won't be happening now with Mourinho's sacking.

Obvious Guardiola will get the Chelsea job.

Jay Harris
35 Posted 17/12/2015 at 15:17:11
Off thread but it's about time David. The special one turned into the special needs one.

I do expect a backlash from the supporters against the players though which could put Chelsea in real shit unless they make a quick appointment.

Patrick Murphy
36 Posted 17/12/2015 at 15:17:55
No Jim but it might allow Jose to take Stones to Man Utd – which is where I think Jose will end up. Another potential problem may come if Chelsea's new manager fancies Romelu. Mind you with his pay-off I wonder if he fancies owning a fallen giant and restoring them to their former glories.
Frank Crewe
37 Posted 17/12/2015 at 15:21:09

I doubt it. The tabloids will continue to parrot every rumour no matter how vague. They have nothing better to do and column inches to fill.

Jim Bennings
38 Posted 17/12/2015 at 15:28:34
It's possible, Patrick.

It's also possible that Manchester United themselves may quickly act now to fire Van Gaal and actually beat Chelsea to the appointment of Guardiola.

You would believe maybe this time last year the likes of United would have been queuing up for Mourinho's signature but perhaps now a lot of top clubs may deem the Mourinho bandwagon and all the baggage he carries around as more trouble than it's worth.

Mourinho does himself no favours but the Chelsea players should take a long hard look at themselves, I believe much like Manchester United, they are struggling themselves to replace many big characters, not that this is any concern of ours of course.

Jim Bennings
39 Posted 17/12/2015 at 15:43:04
You wouldn't be at all shocked if Van Gaal was the next man sacked.

You normally see when one rival makes a high profile sacking it usually sparks a spate of sackings, each club trying to gain more publicity than the other.

Let's face it, Van Gaal is on rocky ground anyway so a surprise it wouldn't be.

I believe the Mourinho departure, leaving the Chelsea job vacant for a potential big name like Guardiola, will force United's hand in moving Van Gaal on so you'd imagine it will be a two way fight for Guardiola between the Mancs and Chelsea .

Ray Roche
40 Posted 17/12/2015 at 15:48:06
Jim, if LVG IS sacked, I can't imagine Man Utd winning the Premier League, typical that we've thrown so many points away when the League is in turmoil.
Jim Bennings
41 Posted 17/12/2015 at 16:16:40

I said in a thread after the Norwich game that I feel so frustrated this season because not just the top four but the title is up for grabs, nobody seems to want to win it and it's there for anyone who gets their act together.

The only thing that will stop Leicester winning it is a lack of squad depth.

It's so frustrating knowing what could have been.

Christy Ring
42 Posted 17/12/2015 at 16:21:39
How Van Gaal is still at Man Utd, after all the money he wasted, is a mystery to me, especially with the boring tactics he plays. The fans have turned against him, and I could see LVG leaving, and Jose talking over.
James Marshall
43 Posted 17/12/2015 at 16:30:57
A mate of mine has just seen John Gregory going into the Stamford Bridge executive suite – no, really.
Dennis Ng
44 Posted 17/12/2015 at 16:33:52
LVG and Pellegrini are done. Only question is who Pep replaces. Popular belief is that he will be at Utd but I bet City will give their arms and legs just to get Pep. Pep is not going to leave Bayern in Jan so not sure why people are suggesting him to Man Utd (now by firing LVG immediately) or Chelsea (with more than half a season left in them). My prediction will be that Chelsea will get relegated with Brendan Rodgers. Fingers crossed for that to come true LOL
Ray Roche
45 Posted 17/12/2015 at 17:30:41
Yes Jim, also if Leicester suffer an injury to the front two, Vardy or Mahrez, they'd struggle. They've scored 27 between them, the rest of the squad 15. And Huth is absent on Saturday, I'd like to think we can get amongst them and score a couple. I think we'll need to.

Let's hope The Rom And Gerry Show is on fire.

Raymond Fox
46 Posted 17/12/2015 at 17:32:52
This manager game is like the magic roundabout.

It will be probably be a caretaker manager at Chelsea, I don't know if James is serious, but any half decent manager will get them winning.

With the players they have they will likely go on winning run.

Tony Abrahams
47 Posted 17/12/2015 at 17:36:25
Just Like they did when Villa Boas left Raymond.
Dennis Ng
48 Posted 17/12/2015 at 17:42:55
Ya, they will win the Champions League with the caretaker, just like last time, LOL.

Gutted the game will not be on TV. Stinking NBC is starting to piss me off.

Peter Bell
49 Posted 17/12/2015 at 17:49:52
Everton bought Mirallas after finishing top scorer in Greece whilst playing through the middle, and have never yet played him there. His goal scoring record from playing out wide is one in three... what a waste of a talent.
Jay Harris
50 Posted 17/12/2015 at 18:03:19
I wouldn't be surprised to see Moyes as interim manager and then Rafa reappointed next summer depending on Guardiola's position.
Darren Hind
51 Posted 17/12/2015 at 18:04:07
Jose getting sacked is the start of silly season. I can see both Man City and Man Utd pressing the panic button too.

Makes you wonder who's out there for these mega rich clubs... most of the the big names have been sacked and had their reputations tarnished.

I wonder if any of them will have the balls to take a chance on an up-and-comer like Eddie Howe ?

Whatever happens, the cash will be splashed this January and it's good to hear the boss make it clear that it won't be on any of our big players.

Top 4 ? ... still game on

Brent Stephens
52 Posted 17/12/2015 at 18:09:30
If you can meet with triumph and disaster and treat those two impostors just the same.

Trouble is, Mourinho couldn't treat with triumph in anything less than a triumphalist way.

Roberto out, Jose in! Well, maybe not.

Kunal Desai
53 Posted 17/12/2015 at 18:57:49
Stones and Lukaku would only stay if we got CL football. That's not going to be happening. We never build on as a club, we stand still and let others eventually overtake us. Personally I believe if some of our star names leave, there is more chance of us doing and Villa than there is of achieving top 4.
Raymond Fox
54 Posted 17/12/2015 at 19:11:08
Darren, I think they will come for Roberto, what do you think?
No swearing please.
Andy Walker
55 Posted 17/12/2015 at 19:17:55
If Mourinho wants to manage Stones he can now, get him in!
Andy Crooks
56 Posted 17/12/2015 at 19:24:18
Raymond, I know you are joking but I think it would be made for him.
Raymond Fox
57 Posted 17/12/2015 at 19:46:34
Andy, I was only half joking. Chelsea, Man Utd and Man City are all clubs that need attack-minded coaches.
Helen Mallon
58 Posted 17/12/2015 at 19:58:06
Sam Hoare,

Funes Mori is top notch – what do you really want?

If it's not him, then it would be Stones, he is a good defender and, for his first season in the Premier League, he has been top class.

Colin Glassar
59 Posted 17/12/2015 at 20:00:19
God Raymond, Darren would be gutted if Martinez left.

I think LVG will be sacked soon, Jose will go to Man Utd, Hiddink to Chelsea (until end of season) and Guardiola (prima donna if there ever was one) will take over at Man City in the summer.

Roberto will stay at Everton.

Raymond Fox
60 Posted 17/12/2015 at 20:04:42
I think he really likes him, Colin; he only pretending he thinks he's shite!
Dave Pritchard
62 Posted 17/12/2015 at 20:23:29
Helen, re Funes Mori. I agree with Sam that he had a good start but has looked less impressive of late. Still think he could end up being a good signing but I would be bringing Jags back in as soon as he is fit again.
Colin Glassar
63 Posted 17/12/2015 at 20:24:32
Lol Raymond. Getting back to Jose there was no way the oligarch was going to keep him on. Despite his past success the fella was having a mental breakdown in full view of the public. Any self respecting manager, or player, wouldn't touch that club with a barge pole. Stonesy, you have been warned.
Tony Hill
64 Posted 17/12/2015 at 20:42:34
Funes Mori is entitled to a wobble. My worry is that he is indeed homesick but assuming he can work through that, I think he'll be excellent for us in the longer term.
Dave Abrahams
65 Posted 17/12/2015 at 20:43:04
I was very surprised to read in the Echo tonight that Everton have won two of their last NINE league matches, if this is true they were against Sunderland and Aston Villa.

Rather puts into perspective how Martinez is doing at the club.

Tony Hill
66 Posted 17/12/2015 at 20:46:23
Does anyone know if Besic is injured? He was at Alder Hey so at least we know he's still alive.
Patrick Murphy
67 Posted 17/12/2015 at 21:25:35
Dave (54) We must be due at least one victory in the next couple of games then, to make it six in eighteen games.

Roberto better be careful on Saturday as getting beat by Leicester City has preceded the Swansea and Chelsea managers losing their jobs.
Andy Finigan
68 Posted 17/12/2015 at 21:25:55
Players with more than one year contracts probable won't be leaving in January unless it suits us.

By the way, if Crystal Palace are worth just under 300 mill, what should our value be???

Rob Halligan
70 Posted 17/12/2015 at 21:31:23
Very surprised to read in tonight's Echo we've only lost two out of the last nine league games.

If this is true it will be Man Utd and Arsenal. Seems Martinez isn't doing too bad after all.
Colin Glassar
71 Posted 17/12/2015 at 21:42:35
Nice one Rob. I think Man Utd or Chelsea might be after our Roberto soon.
Tony Hill
72 Posted 17/12/2015 at 21:56:21
Some of us would valiantly contain our grief in that eventuality, Colin.
Colin Glassar
74 Posted 17/12/2015 at 22:15:59
I see El Loco Bielsa might be going to Swansea. That should be interesting for a season or two.
Chris Leyland
75 Posted 17/12/2015 at 22:16:25
It is only 3 defeats all season which is the same as Arsenal and they are 2nd just 2 points of the top. What's to worry about?

Thing is we have only won 5 league games all year and they are all against the bottom 9 clubs including 3 out of the current bottom 5. Oh, we have also managed 2 draws against the clubs lying in 18th and the one in 13th over the past few weeks too mind you.

Against the current 9 clubs above us it is played 8, won 0, drawn 5 lost 3.

Still, sin meido or no se puede defender las esquinas.

Ed Smith
76 Posted 17/12/2015 at 22:22:21
If the bids come in from Chelsea for Stones we should bid £30 to 35 million and get Butland and Shawcross, he is the nasty bastard centre-back we have been missing. He will organise the set piece defending and stop the rot there. Getting Butland in speaks for itself. Go in with big money and blow the other mickey mouse clubs out of the water.

Alternatively Chelsea can give us £35 to 40 million plus Cahill and Begovic. Cahill only signed a new contract last week, anyone else think this was to bump up his wages as a sweetener before he does a part exchange to us on the same terms?

Kunal Desai
77 Posted 17/12/2015 at 22:24:23
I don't see any of the big guns making a move for Martinez. They are not going to recruit a manager who has deficiencies in management... in particular, having the inability to address the defensive side of the game.
Mike Corcoran
78 Posted 17/12/2015 at 22:26:49
Sad to hear George Green in the Echo and how he threw it all away. Kids who make it, like Stones, must be hard as nails mentally.
Harold Matthews
79 Posted 17/12/2015 at 22:29:25
Tony, Yes, Mo Besic looked fit and well at Alder Hey. Remember he was a naughty boy playing 90 minutes against The Republic when not fully recovered. Roberto would not have been pleased.

Besic is Roberto's own boy. He scouted him. He signed him. He'll make sure he is a success. Personally, I expect really good things from this tough skilful lad. Though disappointed not to play, he understood the situation and what the manager had in mind for him.

Very studious and intelligent, he was ready for his left-midfield breakthrough when his hamstring went as he burst into the box. Hence his beating of the turf. Let's hope he has better luck next time.

Colin Glassar
80 Posted 17/12/2015 at 22:34:04
Can we please put Shawcross to bed? He's a big useless lump who makes Anferny Gardner look like Bobby Moore.

If Stonesy goes anywhere it will be to man u, minus LVG. Despite the wages the chavs can pay they are a basket case and I can see the likes of Hazard, Fabregas, Costa and Willian etc.... leaving in the summer to go to bigger and better clubs. Hopefully, the chavs will be relegated and return to their normal yoyo team status of a few years ago. And, they can take the fucking great white hope Shawcross with them.

Bill Gall
81 Posted 17/12/2015 at 23:01:03
Although it would be very nice to bring in J.Butland during the January window, but does any one honestly believe, that the chairman of Stoke City. P.Stokes who has been putting in money to build the team will sell him.

There is not many January windows were Everton have brought in the type of player that can take the team to a higher position.

Phil Sammon
82 Posted 17/12/2015 at 23:53:38
Harold (68),

It was a terrible sight seeing Besic pull up the way he did against Chelsea. However, his reaction is etched in my memory and makes me love the guy. He was gutted. Absolutely furious that his time had come and his body had let him down.

He really wants it and when his chance comes again, we can rest assured that he will give everything he has.

David Hallwood
83 Posted 18/12/2015 at 00:15:44
Sorry, Colin (#69), I normally agree with you but have you seen the goals against Stoke since Shawcross came back from injury? He's a defender who defends and that's it. I call him rugby league Shawcross mainly because how he 'marked' Fellaini which was more akin to a sex offence, but Fellaini did nothing that game.

If we had stopped the stupid goals in the last 3 games we are top 4, and would Jerome have bullied Shawcross the way he bullied Stones in the lead up to the Norwich goal? ...thought not.

Kase Chow
84 Posted 18/12/2015 at 00:16:09
Colin #69

Have to disagree mate – yes Shawcross is limited but he could cure an issue we suffer with: dominating the box with headers. He clears the ball better than any of our centre backs and would probably reduce the number of goals conceded from set-pieces.

I love my defenders to attack but I love them to defend more. And Shawcross is nastier than any defender on our books currently and would give a few players a necessary kick up the backside.

Currently, there's few wearing blue that HATE conceding a goal. That actually despite it. We desperately need that mentality 'thou shall not pass' and to get the buggers to stop conceding goals.

Darren Hind
85 Posted 18/12/2015 at 02:14:41

Contrary to what you believe, I do not "Hate" Martinez. I was about to post, for the 3rd time since summer that I was proud of him – on the Alder Hey story.

This for me is the most interesting Premier League since its inception. Teams like Leicester, Palace, West Ham and even Bournemouth have really stood up to the big boys and we have seen the big boys blink first. Chelsea are in disarray, free scoring Man Utd can't buy a goal and Man City without Kompany look very ordinary.

I applauded when Martinez told Chelsea to shove their money, it looked like a good move for Everton, but by denying Chelsea that fresh new face all sides need (even Champions), he was doing them untold damage.

This season's race for the top four prizes is beginning to look like a Grand National, we've even got the runaway outsider. We may have twatted the last three fences, but Horse and Jockey remain as one. Sometimes it's about hanging in there and seeing what you have left on the run in.

You don't sack the Jockey half way through the race, but it doesn't mean you can't rant and rave at him from the stand if he is not paying attention to detail.

Harold Matthews
86 Posted 18/12/2015 at 04:36:05
Yes Phil (#71). Besic is a real Grade A person. A sad and forlorn figure in the dugout with his hoodie up, he even managed a slight smile as he applauded Nessie's hat-trick.
DJ Owen
87 Posted 18/12/2015 at 12:22:28
Jim Potter (#12) and other posters on other threads.

Whilst I agree Butland is one of the best goalkeepers in the Premier League, I cannot see how you think he would come to Everton any time soon.

For one, he's recently signed a contract keeping him at the Britannia until 2019 so any transfer would involve buying out that contract. Do you see Everton doing that?

Second, when he does eventually move on to better things, I'm sure his agent is not going to let him go to any club that cannot guarantee him Champions League football.

Jim Hardin
88 Posted 18/12/2015 at 21:20:29

I agree with you on Shawcross. I followed Stoke because of Begovich and Cameron.

To those not rating Shawcross, it is a little odd that both Begovic,when there and now Butland are considered to be so very good. What is the common denominator? Shawcross and a few other hard-nosed defenders in front of them and disciplined defending on the corners.

Yes, maybe under Sparky, there are fewer heads needing bandaged but the goals are not being leaked. Solid defenders in front can do wonders for a team's goals conceded stats.

Paul Kernot
89 Posted 20/12/2015 at 19:24:49
Peter Bell (#42): That's a good point Peter. Drop Kone for a while and give Mirallas a run of games behind Lukaku. That's if it hasn't already gone too far and he's offski but I think it would answer several concerns and just might work.

You'd have to think they've tried it in training though surely, although, I'd have expected the same to be the case for defending corners too!!

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