Transfer Deadline Day

by | 31/01/2016  267 Comments  [Jump to last]
One in; two out on loan

Everton have moved to strengthen their squad on the final day of the winter transfer window with the acquisition of Oumar Niasse from Lokomotiv Moscow in a deal worth 13.5m.

The 25-year-old underwent a medical today and signed a four-and-a-half-year contract at Finch Farm this evening.

The Blues had also been credited with serious interest in Ecuadorian forward Miller Bolanos, although the A La Cancha Twitter account has cast doubt on the link. They have tweeted that three clubs are interested in Bolanos but that Everton aren't one of them, that despite his reputed girlfriend having intimated on Twitter yesterday that she was flying across to Everton.

Confirmation of Aiden McGeady's loan switch to Sheffield Wednesday for the remainder of the season has been announced.

Meanwhile, there have been suggestions that Everton have turned down an approach from Newcastle and West Bromwich Albion for Bryan Oviedo, insisting he player isn't for sale.

And Conor McAleny has secured another loan deal, joining Wigan Athletic for the rest of the season.  


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Gordon Crawford
1 Posted 31/01/2016 at 23:40:04
Being an Everton supporter is bad for your health.
Hoping we can bring two players in. A keeper and a striker.
Fran Mitchell
2 Posted 31/01/2016 at 23:53:54
We should make a move for Dembele from Fulham, £6 million for a lot of potential. Loan him back for the season.

Fulham have pulled the plug on the Spurs transfer.

Colin Glassar
4 Posted 01/02/2016 at 00:02:45
Spot on, Fran, this kid is going to be huge.
Gavin Johnson
5 Posted 01/02/2016 at 00:11:04
I'm a big fan of Dembele. It would be nice if we could do a late march and buy a player a competitor have their eye on for a change. If we nabbed him away from Spurs It would be payback for nicking Kyle Walker from under our noses. I would much prefer this deal than the Ecuadorian we're being strongly linked with.
Colin Malone
6 Posted 01/02/2016 at 00:41:57
Go and get David Nudgent on a free. An Evertonian, better than what we have got. He won't let us down.
Ernie Baywood
7 Posted 01/02/2016 at 00:46:42
I say it every year and then fail but I'm just going to ignore it and hope the club pleasantly surprise me.

As Gordon said, this club isn't good for your health (Darron Gibson agrees).

Mark Tanton
9 Posted 01/02/2016 at 01:19:26
Roberto has taken every opportunity to tell us the squad is too big. It doesn't suggest many incoming, does it?
Craig Fletcher
10 Posted 01/02/2016 at 01:33:46
We're replacing the Nais with the Niasse. Has a nice symmetry to it.
Joseph Terrence
11 Posted 01/02/2016 at 02:39:02
Niasse reeks of a panic buy. A 25-year-old whose career in Europe consists of one year in the Turkish league, and a year-and-a-half in Russia, neither of which are exactly flooded with quality. I hope I'm wrong, but at £13.5m it is a massive gamble.
Craig Fletcher
12 Posted 01/02/2016 at 02:59:20
Any transfer is a gamble Joseph, but Sadio Mane went to Southampton from the Austrian league and has done pretty well, Dimitri Payet from France, Wijnaldum from Holland, Dusan Tadic, Diafra Sakho.... all came from supposedly weaker leagues, and all players who had no previous PL experience.

I'm sure we've been following him for a while, just because the media have only picked up on this (our interest in him) in the last few days doesn't mean we haven't had him on our radar.

Alex Moore
13 Posted 01/02/2016 at 03:18:31
What do you all see happening if we do sign Niasse? If we're paying this amount of money there's no way he's going to backing up Rom right? So would he slide into a midfield spot or would we go two up top? At this point if he's any good he needs to be on the field.
Eugene Ruane
14 Posted 01/02/2016 at 03:28:57
Right now, I can't get excited about anyone because I don't believe anyone can make a difference.

The only player imo we could buy that would make an actual difference would be a nasty bastard with a big mouth who could instil genuine fear, not only into the opposition, but also into his teammates (and I'm not aware of such a player currently playing in the PL).

Anyone else we buy (shite, average or very talented) will simply be another player slotted into a system that doesn't work.

David Connor
15 Posted 01/02/2016 at 04:09:10
We will be stuck with Aidy. He'll probably fail the medical.

A striker and a decent midfielder would be good. COYB
Jim Hardin
16 Posted 01/02/2016 at 04:15:36
Joseph,

By your logic then no player not playing currently in the top 5 or 6 leagues in the world would be bought then. How will that work exactly?

Seems Funes Mori was a pretty good buy playing for his domestic league, doesn't it?

Bob Parrington
17 Posted 01/02/2016 at 05:18:55
Eugene #12. Spot on. That is exactly what is missing. A hard nosed player who adds grit, determination and a kick up the arse encouragement to his fellow team mates! (and maybe to the manager, too!!!!?

Searchin' searchin' searchin' ?

Jim Bennings
18 Posted 01/02/2016 at 05:46:44
I'm still holding my horses before I really get carried away yet regarding our signings.

I'm half expecting the usual late disappointments of either failed medicals, visa application or personal terms not being reached, then tomorrow hearing about all the hard luck stories and "we were close but time was against us" moans.

Nigel Gregson
19 Posted 01/02/2016 at 06:22:53
Good shout, Eugene. I totally agree. We need a more complete Mo Besic or a more skilful Phil Neville.
Karl Masters
20 Posted 01/02/2016 at 06:28:23
Your thinking matches mine Eugene. Do these players exist anymore? Closest one I can think of is John Terry, a total arsehole in so many ways, but effective.
Kieran Fitzgerald
21 Posted 01/02/2016 at 06:48:18
Eugene, Martinez doesn't seem to do that type of player. Probably doesn't fit into his philosophy. Another reason is that this type of player would put it up to him. Can't be having the manager's bullshit called out now, can we?
Jamie Sweet
22 Posted 01/02/2016 at 06:54:40
You're right Eugene, I'm thinking we need someone that even WE don't like.

Perhaps not an utter utter shithouse like John Terry, but someone of that ilk.

Christopher Marston
23 Posted 01/02/2016 at 07:17:31
Joey Barton or maybe Fritzl or how about Charles Manson?
Paul Smith
24 Posted 01/02/2016 at 07:34:32
Impressed with Terry yesterday in suggesting to Hazard he acknowledge the Chelsea faithful after his pen.

Could do with a bit of that at Everton.

Colin Glassar
25 Posted 01/02/2016 at 07:47:37
Joey Barton was the ideal candidate, Christopher – hard as nails, gobby, skilful, argumentative, Blue to the core etc...... Wouldn't have fitted in with our nicey nicey players...
Jon Withey
26 Posted 01/02/2016 at 07:50:58
Somebody mentioned that Niasse can attack from the left so maybe he's an option on left wing. Although the YouTube I saw put him down as a proper goal-hanger.
Daniel Lawrence
27 Posted 01/02/2016 at 08:13:14
Trying to sign someone from the Russian league who would need a work permit, on deadline day... because that will be straightforward!!!
Amit Vithlani
29 Posted 01/02/2016 at 08:31:55
There have been some proper January window drama involving us, both good and bad. From Fella to Fer, Jela to Traore, we have had plenty of ups and downs.

I truly hope Niasse does not turn out to be a similar saga. I think we do need a striker and if he is the focus of our attention, then let's hope the deal goes through, as if the window closes without a striking back-up, an injury to Rom would leave us badly short of cover.

Kenny Jones
30 Posted 01/02/2016 at 08:36:23
Eugene (#12) & Kieran (#19),

The nearest type player we had to that was Naismith and was probably one of the reasons he was shipped out.

Ray Roche
31 Posted 01/02/2016 at 08:45:09
Vijay#25,

Just checked, that comment is still there. Priceless.

Andrew Ellams
32 Posted 01/02/2016 at 09:05:08
Niasse may be a gamble but if you want to sign a player with the attributes he seems to have he'd cost a lost more than £13.5 million if he had the necessary experience. Although after watching yesterday's game we do need somebody other than Kone to rely on should Lukaku miss more than the odd game.

What we really need is somebody off the pitch who can teach a back four and goalkeeper to play like they have actually met each other before.

Paul Setter
33 Posted 01/02/2016 at 09:11:32
Giving this muppet money to spend is bad news, it probably means more turgid inept management for another season.

I would rather we didn't sign anyone, carry on as we are, then get rid of the worst manager ever to boss in the Premier League.

Miles Jordan
34 Posted 01/02/2016 at 09:36:30
We don't need to bring in a keeper right now. Just give Joel a run to see how good he really is, then get Butland in the summer if necessary. Come on Bobby, do yourself a favour and drop Howard for Newcastle!
Tony Abrahams
36 Posted 01/02/2016 at 10:01:07
Eugene, this is another great post, which should definately be shown to Martinez.
Vijay Nair
37 Posted 01/02/2016 at 10:08:10
Considering we're short of options on the left wing, I wonder why we're not in for Cheryshev from Madrid. Looks like they are offloading him for only around £7m which is an absolute steal.
Michael McCarthy
38 Posted 01/02/2016 at 10:22:50
Dembele will leave Fulham for a lot more than £6 million in the summer. Buying now could be a steal. Yes loan him back.

Talking to Bob Wilson yesterday. He asked why with so many talented players are we down the table? Also he spoke about Neville Southall, brilliant keeper. Bob Wilson a true gentleman and Gooner.

Andrew Ellams
39 Posted 01/02/2016 at 10:30:53
Michael McCarthy, Dembele is out of contract in the summer so the only fee that Fulham will receive will be a development fee.
Chris Kelly
40 Posted 01/02/2016 at 10:36:37
I think a new player in January can provide both the team and the fans a catalyst. We need a big name or someone who comes with expectation to change things around and perhaps challenge the status quo of the team. As we know, the team tends to pick itself and a new entrant may help that.

The irony is that on paper our defence is outstanding, with perhaps a lack of cover at right back. On the pitch it clearly is not working. We have goals across the team, but would look lack lustre without Lukaku.

I actually think we need a character, as others have said in midfield. Someone who will eventually take the Barry role and offer grit, determination and leadership. Dare I say it in the Toure, Keane or Gerrard role. In the recent past we had Arteta and Cahill who would come on and provide an instant lift.

Let's see what happens! Evertonians all over the world checking their phones all day me thinks...

Tom Bowers
41 Posted 01/02/2016 at 10:36:37
Not too sure about African players at Everton really relishing playing in the Prem. on a consistent basis save but the odd one or two.

Yobo wasn't bad and Amokachi had his 15 minutes of fame but what about one game, one goal Traore ?

The overall quality of the Turkish and Russian leagues is questionable and so this Senegalese player may be over rated at the 13 million price tag.

Everton have not had too much problem scoring goals this season and in fact is it only Man.City who have scored more?

I would have thought a new, strong and quick tackling midfielder to replace Besic for this season and Barry for next season would have been a priority.

Kim Vivian
42 Posted 01/02/2016 at 10:50:54
Off topic – but does anyone know if Garbutt is injured. I'm off to see Fulham (v Derby) on Saturday (work jolly and piss up) and it'd be nice to watch one of our own.

Give me a reason to support one of the teams.

James Marshall
43 Posted 01/02/2016 at 10:59:23
I partly agree with Eugene, which in itself is rare, but also that whoever we buy will simply slot into a system that doesn't work – this is the key point.

Buying a gobby, hard tackling central midfielder for example wouldn't really help us IMO. Isn't that what Besic is meant to be? You could put Roy Keane in our midfield and he'd still be chasing back given the system we play.

We look to be buying a striker, which says everything about Martinez continued conviction in his system which doesn't work – he needs to buy a steely midfield player AND change the system if he wants success.

The media are all saying things like, "Everton are so close to being a really good side", but we're not, are we.

Nick Page
44 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:02:43
Let's just buy some fecker, get 3 wins and win the FA Cup. COYB

*wakes up*

Tony Abrahams
45 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:03:03
James – it looks like you agreed with Eugene 100%!!!
Anthony Burke
46 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:08:56
Ladbrokes make Everton 14/1 to be the last Premier League team to do business in the window – gotta be worth a fiver!!!
James Marshall
47 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:13:40
It's all so confusing, Tony....

Agreeing with Eugene freaks me out!

Peter Roberts
48 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:15:21
Aside from bringing in some proven pace and quality – I would have Nugent on a free. To give us the Naismith factor.

He would run through a brick wall for Everton, he would play for us for nothing. A player like that in the squad is a great thing. As an option for closing games out he would be perfect.

Tony Abrahams
49 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:20:16
But I do think he's right, James, even if it's just for once in your case!
Chris Wright
50 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:22:30
Eugene, I agree with you. But can not see Martinez ever having that type of player. The only one I could think of was Ryan Shawcross of Stoke.
Chris Wright
51 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:24:22
And Nugent is no where near good enough. He may be a blue and would run all day but he is not Premier League quality and never will be. On a free or not.
Jack Cross
52 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:26:14
Niasse is at finch farm now I believe.

Mike Gwyer
53 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:26:50
Peter Roberts

Out of interest, are you Nugent's agent? I think you are going to loose a few bob telling everyone that he "would play for us for nothing".

Dave Burke
54 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:29:19
Niasse's wife has just confirmed on twitter that he is at Finch Farm for his medical.
Jim Knightley
55 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:30:19
I think that stating that a hard bastard/tough tackler etc will sort out our problems is to mistake our problems. We do not need a Joey Barton (Colin... you must stop with this idea. He has been a piss poor player for a very long time). We need to defend as a team.

We need Martinez to realise that we can't play in an attacking style that leaves our full backs exposed, or worse, our centre backs pulled out of position to cover for our roaming full backs. We can't expect two defensive midfielders to do the work of a missing front four, or cover the space left by those roaming full backs. Our failure is our failure to defend as a team. We are too frequently playing with essentially four attackers.

Niasse could make that attack more effective, and give us a little more bite in the cup competitions. Besic can give us bite and aggression in the tackle. Robles may give us a better alternative to Howard.

But aside from a new goalkeeper, and a creative midfield presence, I do not see a way to improve the team which will not cost £20+ million. What we need to do is to improve the fitness levels, attack with more pragmatism, and get everyone bar Lukaku closing down and protecting the players behind them.

Andrew Ellams
56 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:32:19
There are some big beast central defenders out there that can play a bit too; Vincent Kompany for one and Marcel Desailly wasn't too bad in his day.
Dave Abrahams
57 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:32:43
Peter (#42),

We could have signed Nugent years ago; Dithering Dave haggled over the price and he went elsewhere. I think his best days are gone... Nugent's that is – Dithering Dave never had any.

Tony Abrahams
58 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:33:13
He's been described as an unpredictable workhorse, so at least he should improve our intensity.
Mike Corcoran
59 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:34:31
Is Niasse as good as Jo?
John Jones
60 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:39:45
Replacing Naismith with Naaaiiiissssseee
Jack Cross
61 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:41:36
Peter Roberts (42).

I agree, mate, about Nugent, but then I have said that he would be a good addition to our team going back a few seasons.

He can play and score at Premier League level, he as done it. And what is there to loose if he's free?

It doesn't go down well on these threads Peter, because most of them live in cloud cuckoo land, regarding buying players.

Simon Jones
62 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:47:08
No-one knew much about Funes Mori when he came in the last window, but I think he has been our buy of the season. Just sayin' like!
James Marshall
63 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:48:34
BREAKING: Aiden McGeady has signed for Sheffield Wednesday on loan from Everton. Hooray!!!

Nugent?! What so we can have another headless chicken charging about up front doing nothing? No thanks.

Simon Jones
64 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:50:07
Has he had to take a cut in pies?
Andrew Ellams
65 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:52:38
Jack Cross and Peter Roberts, we are on the verge of signing a 25 year old full international who was Russian player of the year ahead of the likes of Hulk and Alex Witsel but you want to sign a bench warmer at Middlesbrough who has failed more than once to make an impression in the Premier League based on the fact that he's a boyhood Evertonian?
Jack Cross
66 Posted 01/02/2016 at 11:54:22
James Marshall (#57). Are you classing Naismith, as a headless chicken running around up front? If not who?
James Marshall
67 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:01:18
Jack – yes. Naismith and Nugent, both extremely limited footballers living in the past by being hard workers who don't offer very much in terms of quality.

Naismith is a thoroughly nice bloke, but a limited footballer – if you want old school players who run about a lot, you're welcome to them. Personally I want quality not effort.

Nugent is shite as well -– go and have a look at his record. Limited at the top level – we need to aim way higher than both of them if we want to be a good side with ambition. Supporters also need to have a higher opinion, and aim higher too IMO.

Jack Cross
68 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:05:52
Andrew Ellams (#59). Were not saying instead of Niasse, were saying additional to him Nugent, that is.

i remember when Messi, gave McGeady, glowing reviews. What happened to him then?

Didn't Mcgeady come from Russia?

I haven't seen Niasse, play. So I will hold any judgement until he arrives. If he does.

James Marshall
69 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:10:35
McGeady? Naismith? Messi? It's like the Twilight Zone in here today....
Trevor Peers
70 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:15:55
At least Nugent would put a full shift in and has our best interests at heart. Unlike Kone who smiles when he makes mistakes and generally doesn't look arsed when we lose.
He's Roberto's special friend though is he not, what a farce.
Jack Cross
71 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:16:09
James Marshall (#61).

Maybe if we had a few grafters with some guts in the team we would be higher up the league?

You see James, I think there is room for both types of players. The class and the work horse.

I mean we have the class, but who is the workhorse?

Steve Hogan
72 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:17:09
Check out the Twitter account of 'Pookie', the wife of Oumar Niasse, could we sign her instead please.

Going for a cold bath....

Brent Stephens
73 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:22:45
At Finch Farm. So very close.
Nick Page
74 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:26:36
"if you want old school players who run about a lot, you're welcome to them. Personally I want quality not effort."

Personally, I think Vardy is excellent. And Suarez wasn't too shabby either. For run-about-a-lot types

James Marshall
75 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:26:48
Jack/Trevor – a workhorse still needs class, and neither of the aforementioned has the required ability.

Examples: Busquets, Matic, Toure, Coquelin, Pogba, Song etc..

I agree there is room for both types of player – the question is the ability of the players mentioned. Everton need to aim higher than pure workers with limited skill.

Peter Roberts
76 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:27:45
Sorry, what was I thinking... signing a scouse lad who is Everton through and through, who would earn relative pennies but add a great element of professionalism to the squad regardless of whether he is getting game time or not.

We should be signing a load of lads who have 85+ ratings on Fifa who kinda stick to their own clique...

Why do we have the likes of Osman and Hibbert around the club? Its because they can help maintain the culture of what we think Everton is. I'm not for one second saying that Nugent should start or play many minutes – he is a very good spoiler. Not a headless chicken. A spoiler can stop the opposition picking a pass, they hurry them into making mistakes – they SHAME teammates who aren't doing a tap.

Andrew Ellams – has anyone said we don't want to sign Niasse??? I certainly haven't. I love a good gamble on a player with attributes that mean goals.

I think a few of us just have an idea as to what makes a good squad, not just a glamorous first 11.

Shane Corcoran
77 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:28:02
The only place I can see that McGeady is gone is on article dated Saturday. Did I miss something?
James Marshall
78 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:29:11
Nick – Suarez is one of the best centre forwards in world football, and you're calling him a run-about-a-lot player??!! He's a top class finisher of the highest order, with movement and ability we'd die for!!

Vardy has come good at a late stage of his career, and also has brilliant movement, pace and a finish on him – I wouldn't put him in the run-about-a-lot bracket either.

Do you have any examples that actually fit the bracket? ;)

Harold Matthews
79 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:31:24
Yes, there he is in his new white Range Rover. Big smile for the security man.
Jack Cross
80 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:36:13
Peter Roberts 70.

Well said.

Joe Clitherow
81 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:37:35
We are really in more trouble than I thought if a 30-year-old Championship level footballer who never cut it in the top tier is the level of our ambition. The Nugent ship has long since sailed.

The next season will see more money coming into Premier League football and the myth some continue to propagate on here about Everton having no money is no longer. *Every* club will have money and that will attract talent from all over the world. You can bet so-called smaller clubs will be spending big money on top players. That had better be the mindset of Everton too or we will be left further behind.

The good news is we have a good level of player talent that gives us a head start on other teams. The bad news is we have a manager who has no clue how to use them effectively.

James Marshall
82 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:38:35
Oumar Niasse record:

2007-2013 Ouakam
(Assists) 154 (Goals) 102

2013-2014 Akhisar
(Assists) 34 (Goals) 22

2014-2016 Lokomotiv
(Assists) 28 (Goals) 18

Obviously the Premier League is a different level, but the kid has a very good record on his way up.

Peter Roberts
83 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:39:17
James – this isn't Football Manager or FIFA. It is real life. A good football team does not exist when you get a load of egos – you need professionals who balance the dressing room, who can verbally slap down any spoilt brats who disrupt the harmony...

Does the Samuel Eto'o experiment not tell you anything? He nearly destroyed the dressing room and it was characters like Naismith who were strong enough to stand up to his mutiny.

Look across the park and see what happened when Liverpool signed Diouf and Diao – Carragher and Gerrard had to sort them out.

Lose you identity as a club and you are nothing. You don't need top quality players to have a top quality team spirit.

James Marshall
84 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:41:04
Joe @75 – exactly mate. We (supporters) need to let go of the past and stop with all this nonsense about needing grafters, and Evertonians in the team.

It's not 1975 anymore, it's 2016 and football has long since moved on. One of the reasons we're being left behind, and have been for years is this insistence on hanging onto our 'istory and glorious past.

Bollocks to the past – it's the here & now that matters.

James Marshall
85 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:42:52
Peter, what are you talking about? Where are the spoilt brats? Where are the disruptive influences? Eto'o yes, but other than him?

Are you suggesting Niasse is going to be disruptive before we've even signed the player? Let's not take this off on tangents – it's bad enough we're discussing Naismith and Nugent!

Peter Roberts
86 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:47:35
Let's sign the lad – exciting news, but seriously... some of you on here must believe that what you see on the pitch on a Sunday is all reflective of talent alone.

5 days a week these lads spend time together – the majority on the training ground where only 11-13 out of the 24 or so on the pitch will be involved. You don't want sulky mercenaries....

I wonder why Sir Alex Ferguson kept Brian McClair as long as he did.... there is an answer and it is above.

James Marshall
87 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:50:31
Peter, I agree with you – character is massively important, as is team spirit because as you say, these are human beings – but you seem to think that David Nugent is the required character, then all of a sudden you're talking about Samuel Eto'o!?

If Nugent was so useful he wouldn't be warming the bench at Boro' every week would he!

I couldn't give a damn if he's a blue, he lacks talent and has spent his entire career in shit teams – what does that tell you?

Kevin Tully
89 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:51:37
Exactly, James. It even extends to our coaching staff. I honestly believe the only reason Ferguson is coaching at Everton is the fact he's broke!

All this talk of putting Unsworth, Ferguson or Stubbs in as manager is ridiculous. Same applies for wanting players who 'support' the club – it's a load of old nonsense! Rooney was a massive fan who couldn't wait to get out of the place.

The whole club is as soft as fuck from the chairman down and far too sentimental. Some love it, I think it holds us back from moving forward.

Peter Roberts
90 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:53:37
Seriously – the only reason we are still talking about this is because getting a really solid pro who can enhance our culture and professisonalism behind closed doors is seen as a bad thing....

I would not like to see us have to play Nugent – because that would mean Lukaku e would be walking around and this new lad aint great, but I wouldn't like to see our team without proper professional characters in the squad. Who set the right example.

James Marshall
91 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:56:14
Kevin – damn right. Evertonians sentimentality has held us back for years, I completely agree. Ruthless and forward thinking are not terms you associate with us at all. Soft, gooey eyed and sentimental, short sighted, glory wallowers is what props Everton up, and personally I'm sick of it.

Yeah we were great in 1985, so what? Nottm Forest won two European Cups and where are they now? The past doesn't mean shit, and attitudes need to change to force change.

Nick Page
92 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:58:09
James, Suarez was probably the hardest working striker in the Premier League a couple of seasons ago and Vardy runs all day, and chases everything down. No wonder they score lots of goals.

Compare to that lazy greedy bastard across the park who's currently out with an injured eye-lash. Good finisher though. Personally I'd rather have the former, and anyone we bring in has to have that work ethic.

Liu Weixian
93 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:58:14
Nasty bastard? Strikes terror into the hearts of men? Look no further than Ryan Shawcross. Stones will wake up his ideas in no time at all.
Anthony Dwyer
94 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:58:40
Come on lads, James Marshall is right: how the fuck can any of you seriously be taking about signing Nugent? The lad is rubbish.

Yes, he is a blue, but so am I, no-one can seriously consider such a bog standard Championship player as a useful player for a team who want to compete up the top end of the EPL.

Let's get serious.

James Marshall
95 Posted 01/02/2016 at 12:59:49
Nick – every player at Barcelona is a grafter.....but every player at Barcelona is a grafter with massive amounts of world class ability. Do you see my point?
James Marshall
96 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:00:54
Oh and also......Steven Naismith plays for Norwich while Nugent warms the bench at Boro, just to illustrate the point further!
Nick Page
97 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:05:33
So, have we signed anyone yet?
Joe Clitherow
98 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:06:39
I don't disagree at all that we need players who will work and have that team/work ethic attitude but please don't confuse that with being the criteria for having a winning football team.

As a small child I vividly remember the groans of despair from fellas round me when Mick Lyons went forward into the centre forward position. Mick was a great Evertonian who would literally spill blood for the team but a pretty limited footballer.

Let's make the primary criteria for any new player that they are a supremely talented footballer. I happen to believe that any decent manager can instil a work ethic and manage personalities in the team. Moyes did this with Arteta and others. Arteta had a bit of a reputation when he came into Moyes team but ended up being a hard worker too, and twice the player for it.

I don't believe Martinez can do this though and he has his favourites rather than the ability to integrate players so that is a different topic.

So yes I agree you have to work to earn the right to play, but beyond that you need to be able to play a bit too if you want success.

Trevor Peers
99 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:07:03
James, you're suffering under the same delusions as our manager. We aren't Barcelona, and never will be.

Leicester have plenty of so called journeymen players and look were they are. We have to be realistic at Everton surely.

James Marshall
100 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:07:18
Fenerbache fans on Twitter saying how happy they are that Niasse is signing for us – they play Lokomotiv in the Champions League soon.

Craig Walker
101 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:07:27
You need to be able to play but you need to be able to mix it up. The last time we won anything, we had a pretty mediocre team but one that grafted and fought and didn't worry too much about the opposition. Out of the current crop of players, I only see Besic with any sort of hatred of being on the losing side.
Andy Sommer
102 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:08:05
McGeady to Sheffield Wednesday on loan – just confirmed on BBC.
James Marshall
103 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:10:41
Trevor – I'm totally realistic, and of course we're not Barca. We are however held back by this notion that our history somehow makes us special. It doesn't. Evertonians are a noble breed, but a glassy eyed bunch as well. Look at the fawning from Bill, it's a joke.

We need quality, as well as hard work. Naismith and Nugent are hard workers with no quality.

And don't call me Shirley.

Joe Clitherow
104 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:15:43
I wonder who Pep will sign at Man City now that it's confirmed he will be there next season?
James Marshall
105 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:17:03
Probably David Nugent.
Joe Clitherow
106 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:20:21
There you go. City get Pep, sounds like some people here would prefer Dave 'Harry' Bassett

PS I'd take him over Martinez

Trevor Peers
107 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:21:48
We all want what's best for Everton James, thats pretty obvious. All the Shirley are in the ghost boardroom.
Jon Withey
108 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:22:02
Nugent might be a great lad but he's not good enough for Everton nowadays.

I'd love to see a midfield destroyer at the club, but they are rare nowadays. Newcastle might have done a good job getting Shelvey in for that reason.

I'd almost be tempted by Barton but that could go either way.

James Marshall
109 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:22:03
McGeady has definitely gone to Sheffield Wednesday on loan till the end of the season – good pies in Sheffield.
Andrew Ellams
110 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:22:03
Leicester are having their year in the sunshine but they won't be up there next season.
Oliver Molloy
111 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:22:50
Joe,

Stones a certainty you would think, and if I was a betting man I would think Mourinho could be the man in charge of their neighbours come the start of the season.

The Premier League is all red carpet stuff and even more so now!

James Marshall
112 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:27:33
If all these players are such valuable members of a team/squad (Naismith, Nugent, Shelvey) why do they all play for shit teams?

Answers on a postcard.

Joe Clitherow
113 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:27:37
Stones would get top dollar from City. Great footballer but we can't get the best of him under Martinez. I agree with Paul Merson in that he needs to learn basic defending first. He will never get that under RM - I'm pretty sure he knows it too. Big money for what is an ineffective player for us would be the best thing for us as a club. Very sad to say that but the team is all, not the best individuals.
James Marshall
114 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:32:28
I really hope Everton announce, "Niasse to meet you, to meet you Niasse" when he signs. (I nicked this from Twitter).
Dave Abrahams
115 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:32:49
James (#94);

Please don't compare any Evertonian with Kenwright; he is a different breed to any of us. I'm not sure he is even an Earthling, he is okay mixing with his lovies, I've never met any of them following Everton.

Dave Ganley
116 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:33:23
Sadly, the only thing running through my mind is that if Everton are signing players then I guess Martinez will be with us for at least the rest if the season!!
Eugene Ruane
117 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:34:20
Imagine if you posted 'I think we need to serve bacon and eggs in Goodison' and I responded 'you're right there mate, our history is holding us back'

Wouldn't make sense right?

'Wtf!?' you would think 'did he actually read what I wrote?'

See Joe Clitherow's post 75, then James Marshall's response 78.

Talk about having an agenda.

James, whether you think our history is a help or a hindrance is neither here nor there, the idea that history can be put to one side or forgotten is beyond ludicrous.

I prefer your other column, I feel it's just better..informed.

Link

James Marshall
118 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:34:22
Dave – you know what I mean though? Blue tinted specs on all the time, longing for the good old days when we were the best team in the land ain't gonna progress the club in 2016.

We need modern thinking, not old school glory bollocks.

Roger Helm
119 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:35:35
If we want a big tough gobby experienced defensive leader do to the stuff Martinez won't dirty his hands with then John Terry is leaving Chelsea at the end of the season. At 35 he has another year or two on the clock.
James Marshall
120 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:37:28
Eugene – you truly are an odd individual. I agreed with you and you still come out fighting. Weird guy.

I don't think our history should be forgotten about – I just think it holds us back, as others do. You're not 100% right about every little detail of football, or Everton. Learn to play nice with the other children.

Harold Matthews
121 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:39:19
Craig. Yes, To Besic I would add Deulofeu and Funes Mori. Three very passionate lads who hate to lose.
Joe Clitherow
122 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:44:05
Eugene,

I never said anything about putting history to one side. I happen to think it defines us. But our history was based on being a successful team and we should be looking forward and building on that success. However, hard or even impossible people think that challenge is, it's why the football club is in existence. Everything else is secondary.

With the money on offer next season we should be scouring the globe for the best talent we can afford – and 'afford' will be considerable. I really don't much care that they start off as Evertonians or not. If that is a criteria then the pool of talent is infinitesimal.

I refer back to your Alpha 43 post on another thread though and agree with it. We should chase the best footballers we can and mold them into a team that wins.

If you're saying my "agenda" is being convinced that our current manager can't do the latter, then yeah, you're bang on. He seems a nice man, but I don't care about that, he won't make us successful which is absolutely my "agenda".

Gordon Crawford
123 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:44:24
Any transfers completed at the "Club of Broken Promises"?
Jim Knightley
124 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:45:23
Peter - how on earth would bringing a Championship quality player in, just because he works hard and represents a certain attitude, help our squad dynamic? Do you think the players would respect some bench fodder grafter and all of a sudden try harder? There are exactly those players in our squad, as well as gifted ones.

Besic is a great example of a hard worker with attitude, whilst Barry, Osman, Hibbert etc have all made a career in part because of their dedication and professionalism. I think that what you are claiming is non-nonsensical and ignores the make up of our side.

Our primary problem is tactical and has nothing to do with the lack of a David Nugent in our squad. There are too many strange old fashioned ideas flying around. They are perfectly symbolised by the absurd claim that Joey Barton would somehow help our team and club.

We will do better when the next manager instills defensive discipline into the entire first 11, or when Martinez finally realises that it is not normal for a Premier League side to have to score 3 goals to win a game.

Nick Page
128 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:58:48
Dele Alli was a League One (Division 3 in old money) player last year. And he works hard and has a good attitude. And is now the most valuable teenager in world football, according to some. In half a season. Who'd a thunk it.
Bill Gall
129 Posted 01/02/2016 at 13:59:50
Looking at the video of Niasse, it seems he likes to cut in from the left, so this might bring more balance to our left hand side instead of square pegs in round holes.
Patrick Murphy
130 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:07:10
It's this pining for the old glory days that stops us from being successful today? - well as one of the old gits who witnessed the glory days, I can honestly say that it's the only thing that keeps me believing that one day I will be lucky enough to see that sort of glory return to Goodison in the future. The thing that is really holding us back, is that somehow the club has become stuck in a time-warp but not of 1985 or 1970 etc, but rather that of 1994,1998 or 2001.

This addiction to failure has ruined much of the fabric of the club for far too long and it has permeated itself into pretty significant sections of the fan-base too. Note how many didn't really care about reaching the League Cup Final, because our neighbours had already made it there. How many of us dread playing any big team on their own midden?, how many of us even fear playing pretty ordinary teams on our own patch?

That's not Everton and it's not our history either, we have always been a club that's under-achieved to some extent, but the fans have always had a defiance about them that would rally the troops and encourage the players to play above themselves, and sometimes it would be enough to bring glory aided to the skill of the team obviously.

We might not want to become the soulless entities that some think City and Chelsea have become, we might not want to become flag waving partisans who frequent the other side of the park, or to become any other club that you care to mention. We won't become any of those things because we are Everton, have always been Everton and will remain Everton, regardless of who owns the club.

Dreaming of future glory and using past successes as a comparison is not holding us back, fearing relegation and only using the years of failure as a guide, will hold us back as there lies the road to stagnation and ultimately the failure that none of us wish to see.

Everton should always attempt to get the best players it can for the prices that it can afford, and the manager then has to try and get the best out of those players as often as he can, if they don't quite make a success of it, then so be it, as long as every person connected with the first-team can hold their hands on their hearts and say we did our best, that is what Everton have for the most part always had and it has brought success in the past, it can bring success in the future too. Now....how's that deal for Messi and Ronaldo going?


Kevin Tully
131 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:07:35
McGeady confirmed to Sheffield Wednesday on loan. Doubt he will return.
Joe Clitherow
132 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:08:31
Actually, Eugene, now I know what you are referring to.

You're right, I hadn't read what you wrote, or at least I wasn't referring to it at all. It was ancient 'istory on this thread (geddit?). I was referring to the frankly silly suggestion that David Nugent would somehow improve our squad which was the current train of thought (at time of posting).

In reference to your post 12, then yeah I agree with you so long as said player can actually play with the football as well rather than just clog people.

So more Roy Keane than Terry Hurlock (exactly – who remembered him before I reminded you? Still a Millwall legend apparently but that says more about their club values and 'istory than ours)

Eugene Ruane
133 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:10:19
Joe (113) - 'I never said anything about putting history to one side"

I know, that was my point, you didn't mention it, yet his response (78) was as though your entire post was along the lines 'we should forget our history'

James (111) - 'you truly are an odd individual. I agreed with you and you still come out fighting. Weird guy'

This sentiment imo shows a level of 'I don't get it' of immense proportions.

This is not Facebook, I'm not looking to be anyone's pal, I don't give a fuck about how many 'agrees' I get, I'm only interested in informed opinion.

(nb: should I ever buy into the notion of 'I agreed with you so you should agree with me', I give you my permission to put a Luger to the back of my head and empty the chamber)

You're right that I'm 'not right about every little detail of football or Everton' when putting forward my opinions, because they're opinions, but we can (and should) endeavour to try and make sure those opinions are considered and informed, rather than resorting to loud, alehouse-lawyer, first-thought brain-droppings.

Gavin Johnson
134 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:11:31
Just another cook to add to the broth on the subject of David Nugent.

I think he could be an astute signing if he was available on a free transfer. He was a player I willed us to sign when he was a young promising player at Preston before hound dog Harry signed him for Pompey.

That all said, didn't Boro pay £4m for him in the summer?! I know he's not made a massive impact there but I'm pretty sure they wouldn't be giving him away. No, I'd only sign him if he was on a free transfer. He'd be a more useful free transfer than James McFadden 2nd time round and his love for the Blues could give us that ingredient we seem to be lacking on the field – Passion!!

Eugene Ruane
135 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:14:32
Patrick (124) – 'It's this pining for the old glory days that stops us from being successful today? – well as one of the old gits who witnessed the glory days, I can honestly say that it's the only thing that keeps me believing that one day I will be lucky enough to see that sort of glory return to Goodison in the future.'

I'm tempted to 'do a Capt Mainwaring': "Well done, Murphy, I was just waiting to see who'd be the first to spot that."

Teddy Bertin
136 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:15:36
Can't believe I'm still reading Nugent and Barton's names on these threads after all these years. What's wrong with you guys?

I remember people going berserk on here when Moyes refused to pay more than £4m for Nugent. He was right! Personally, I like Nugent as a player, he's got a wicked shot on him, but he's never been good enough to cut it in the Premier League week in week out. And as for Barton.. jeez.

Plus shouts of Ferguson for manager, and move heaven and earth to get Rooney back. Too much sentiment going on. I love Big Dunc and I love that Rooney is really open about being an Everton fan, but guys come on. We need the board sacked, some very shrewd coaches brought in and a few more top players. There's the foundations for a top team here.

Martinez may be the best thing that has ever happened to us, after the rigidness of Moyes, he's got players expressing themselves, and got us scoring goals. Bring in a top manager and these players could really flourish. John Stones would never have the sort of confidence he does on the ball without Martinez, just need a top coach to teach him how to defend now.

Pellegrini in at the end of the season!

Peter Roberts
137 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:16:32
But Nick Page (#119) – what was his rating on Fifa 2013? It's all very well having an International quality player now – but how were fans supposed to get excited about him unless he had a YouTube reel and a "Wonderkid" status on a computer game....
Nick Page
138 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:21:44
Exactly, Peter.
Peter Morris
139 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:21:58
I wonder is the Niasse transfer paving the way for Rom's departure in the summer. I rather suspect that has something to do with it, which is a pity. As for McGeady, I wish him good luck.

I don't think he was ever going to be up to PL level, and hopefully he can now find his feet at what is a good solid club with a loyal, local fan base-you know, like they all used to be.

Kevin Tully
140 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:24:21
This Niasse kid looks a decent signing if he's the type of player to run down defenders all game. Suarez used to be a pest first, then lift his team mates to put the same amount of effort in.

Even the Echo are reporting he's having a medical as we speak – and they are usually 24 hours behind every other news outlet. Funny that though, you would think they would get the inside track after never questioning the club for 20 years.

Joe Clitherow
141 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:28:30
Gavin,

Why do you think Boro would put a player they just paid £4M for (a large sum for the Championship) on a free transfer? I think it £2M plus £2M on promotion.

And in the same paragraph you say he hasn't made a massive impact for said Championship side but somehow he will enhance ours? Yeah once upon a time he was a prospect and then he.... didn't do anything at all of any note in the top league and is now nearly 31. So pretty much a known (and proven ineffective) quantity.

Just... well... just bizarre thinking that I don't pretend to follow.

"Nugent available on free transfer – Everton interested"

This is how crap "that's what I heard from some fella in the Vines. Yeah just some fella, never seen him before" type rumours get started and then get quoted back as stonewall facts. Usually in the Star or the Mirror.

James Marshall
142 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:28:33
I feel chastised again. I'm such a numbskull, sorry Eugene. I'll go and self flagellate until I understand :)
Andrew Ellams
144 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:39:28
I think Niasse is more likely to be a replacement for Kone, Mirallas or Naismith (take your pick) than Lukaku.
James Marshall
145 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:39:28
A quote from Niasse from a year ago....ready.....

"Liverpool is a special place for me. I have always dreamed of playing for them," he added. "If I keep developing at this rate perhaps in the next few seasons I will be playing at Anfield".

Oh.

Tony Abrahams
147 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:43:54
James, the worst thing you can do is agree with someone who thinks you're an idiot!!!

Patrick Murphy, that was another brilliant post. It was the third I've read today on ToffeeWeb, that should be shown to the manager, and the second that should be shown to the players.

Cling to our history and yearn for past success, the two main reasons I continue to watch Everton FC.

Dave Abrahams
148 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:44:30
James (#140) maybe he thinks he is signing for Liverpool and we won't tell him until after he signs...
Danny Halsall
149 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:47:22
I will be honest, the deal stinks of 'Bilyaletdinov' for me. I hope I am wrong but got a feeling that the £13.5 million that we are going to pay is well over the odds for a player with no top league experience.

I would have much rather bought Dembele and loaned him back and then brought in Doumbia on loan, who Newcastle have just bought. Seems like a logical way to gain cover until the end of the season, especially when our problems have been in defence and not attack.

We still need cover at right back and a new goalkeeper. I think the goalkeeping situation will have to wait until the summer. Any suggestions on a right back? Could we not take Debuchy on loan for the rest of the season?

Eugene Ruane
150 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:48:53
James (138) - 'I feel chastised again. I'm such a numbskull, sorry Eugene. I'll go and self flagellate until I understand'

Woah, WOAAAHH!!

Self-flagellate until you understand?

Please don't, I couldn't have that on my conscience.

(I mean no one could beat themselves for more than 50 years and hope to survive).

Tony Abrahams
151 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:53:13
I think we will need at least 3 new defenders next season – especially if we are going to cash in on our emergency right back, John Stones.
James Marshall
152 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:54:56
Eugene – what do you think about deadline day so far?

Any thoughts on Everton comings and goings?

What are your thoughts on Niasse?

Tony Abrahams
153 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:55:17
I told yer James!!!
James Marshall
154 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:56:44
Hahaha! (I'm attempting to move things along with him - poking the bear doesn't get me anywhere)
Andrew Ellams
155 Posted 01/02/2016 at 14:59:47
It's OK clinging to our history, I was around for the 80s success and would love to see it again.

But there is no way in 2016 will that be replicated by buying an ex binman from the lower divisions, a couple of crocks with dodgy knees, a bloke that can't get near the Liverpool first XI and a central defender from Tranmere.

Man City have spent well over a billion in fees and wages and are up and down every year, Chelsea are never happy and Man Utd and the Shite are spending obscene amounts and getting nowhere.

James Marshall
156 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:00:29
Niasse is strong, Niasse is tall....

http://guidetravel.biz/senegal/who-exactly-is-Evertonbound-forward-oumar-niasse-99680.html

Brian Harrison
158 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:06:57
I still cant fathom why multi million pound businesses buy into transfer deadline day. The window has been open for weeks yet they leave it till the last possible day to agree multi million pound deals. Now why wouldn't you have done the business weeks ago. How does it make sense to have players scurrying around Europe having medicals hours before the deadline. Then having to make sure all deals are registered before tonight's deadline.

Mind if I was an agent it would be like Xmas day, you can just imagine the scenario a club wants to sign your player, so you screw them for every penny and more. You know they have no time to move to another target, so the agent and player hold all the aces. Absolute madness.

John Jones
159 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:06:59
Strange that we aren't considering selling Oviedo, if he was fit all of the time then I'd be advocating him replacing Baines but he isn't and he is out of contract in the summer. Surely he is agreeing a new one if we aren't taking a fee for him now?

Gibson, Hibbert, Oviedo, Osman and Pienaar all out of contract in the summer and add to that McGeady, Mirallas and one or two of Lukaku, Stones, Barkley and Deulofeu and our squad looks incredibly thin. Why not add two or three bodies to minimise the disruption in the summer.

Perplexing...

Fran Mitchell
160 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:08:45
Are people really arguing about Nugent?

If he was actually signing, then it'd be a worthy discussion, but he ain't and won't.

So of all the thousands of football players out there that we aren't Going to sign, we dream up some debate about Nugent?

Times are a changin'

Brent Stephens
161 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:14:16
Brian, if you let the other party know you're keen to wrap things up weeks before the deadline, surely you weaken your bargaining position and get screwed?
Eugene Ruane
162 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:16:28
James, 'Eugene – what do you think about deadline day so far? Any thoughts on Everton comings and goings? What are your thoughts on Niasse?'

Eh?

All my thoughts on 'comings and goings' are simply explained in this thread, post 12 – remember, the one you agreed with.

(I know you want to rid Everton FC of its damaging history, but wiping my posts from memory, I take exception to.)

Nick Page
163 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:21:03
What happened to Henen (at Fleetwood) and that fella we picked up on the way back from signing Funes Mori last year in River Plate (the other one)?

And why did we sign this Swiss lad who is... yet another striker?

Isn't Mason Holgate defensive cover and the lad we picked up at the beginning of the window (promote from U21s). Sneaky

Trevor Peers
164 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:22:53
I think it was a theoretical discussion Fran, a comparison between a deadweight like Kone and a committed Evertonian like Nugent, no-one was really expecting Roberto to move for a player of his age.

We now look to have signed a decent striker, let's hope he replaces Kone and starts banging some goals in!

Kevin Tully
165 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:24:32
BREAKING NEWS, DONE DEAL: ToffeeWeb have flogged Martin Mason to Grand Old Team for two ollies and a frog.
James Marshall
166 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:28:15
Eugene - I don't want to rid Everton of it's history, stop being so deliberately obstructive.

I'd love you to one day join in the debate, instead of making smart-arse remarks all the time. It's really tiring! Take a few deep breaths, and let it all go.....

Do you have an opinion, at 3:30pm today, on Oumar Niasse at all?

Eugene Ruane
167 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:29:40
Kevin 'BREAKING NEWS, DONE DEAL: ToffeeWeb have flogged Martin Mason to Grand Old Team for two ollies and a frog.'

Not going to get too worked up yet, not until I've seen a 'Are you for fucking real mate!?' post on GOT.

Also, I hear the frog will be in installments (legs first - typical TW!)

Anthony Jones
168 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:39:53
Can we buy a new "philosophy"?
Dennis Ng
169 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:40:15
Can we buy one of these?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2305708/Lionel-Messi-proves-human-foiled-Japanese-moving-robot.html

Craig Walker
170 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:40:44
Natalie Sawyer and Kate Adbo couldn't make this Deadline Day interesting.

At least McGeady's gone eh?

Dan Aspinall
171 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:51:24
I just read Stoke are in for Yarmolenko. If that happens, there's a chance I'll get sectioned within hours...
Gavin Johnson
172 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:52:18
Joe #137

You need to read my post again. I did actually say the same thing as you – Why would Boro give a player away when they've just paid £4m for?!

I was just adding my thoughts to people clambering to the idea that for some unbeknown reason we could get him on a free transfer. In that instance I was in agreement he could be a useful cheap option to throw on from the bench. His passion and willingness would compensate his technical short comings. A bit like Stracqualursi a few seasons back.

I'm not for one moment saying we should sign him. There's about a million other player I'd prefer us to sign, Joe. Don't get so worked up mate.

Eugene Ruane
173 Posted 01/02/2016 at 15:55:17
James - No I don't have an opinion on Oumar Trousers at 3.30 pm today.

Nor will I have an opinion on Bertie Eggcup at 4.37 pm, or Ronnie Flipflop at 5.18 pm or Charlie Cheeseface at 7.54 pm.

I have given a clear, very easy-to-understand indication of my feelings on all fucking transfer activity and if that is too hard for you to take, tough titty.

I'll repeat - I joined the debate at post 12, said all I needed to say on transfers and that was it (nb: oh and said nothing 'smart arse').

However if (as it seems) that doesn't suit you and you insist on hourly updates, smart-arse is exactly what you will get (and if that makes you tired, have a lie down and consider that your wounds are self-inflicted).

Thomas Surgenor
174 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:04:53
John #152 I thought I had read somewhere we were giving Oviedo an extended deal?
Brian Harrison
175 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:08:54
Now why couldn't Everton have done what Man City have done and announce who are new manager is, now that would get me far more excited than any possible transfers.
Nick Page
176 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:10:41
Stoke fucking City on the verge of another very interesting signing, I see! Have these players ever been there, I do wonder? Still, it just shows what a bit of ambition can do.
Les Martin
177 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:11:06
Looks like we have let one Nace go and replacing him with a Niasse – does this mean were showing some Nous?

Seriously, and boy do some of you lot get agitated with your fellow blues! So calm done and let's look on a positive note: Niasse could be a great signing: powerful, fast works hard and can finish, plays on the left as as a lone striker. What else do you want, yet the coffin's being nailed down already. Lighten up and enjoy the ride.

As for Nugent ? No gents...., he wasn't up to our requirements when mentioned in Moyes's time, and certainly won't be improving by polishing a Championship bench.

Joe Clitherow
178 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:12:47
Is Bertie Eggcup at Finch Farm? He's crap. Most overrated winger since Tommy Shoes.

That Martinez fella doesn't know..... etc etc.

Kevin Tully
179 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:16:12
What if Niasse has exploding knees?
Steve Brown
180 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:17:09
We don't need more tough tacklers, but I would like a couple of players who are leaders. Either someone like Besic to take that next step up or to bring in players who are not content with just being quite good.

Or more realistically, a manager who thinks organising the team to defend is that of his job description.

David Midgley
181 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:20:41
#143

Danny, on another thread, a couple of regular posters named this guy. He's younger than Byram and probably cheaper. Arbnor Fejzullahu, Partizani Tirane. Albanian.

I know, it's YouTube, but...

Dave Ganley
182 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:25:28
Sorry, Eugene (#166), you're sitting on the fence a bit with your opinions. Can you just make it crystal exactly what you're trying to say......
Sam Hoare
183 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:28:38
January transfer window deadline days seem to have become very dull. Having said that, I will be relatively happy if we sign Niasse as he looks fast and that's usually fun for a few seconds of 'Is he the next....?' larks.

Ged Simpson
184 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:31:58
Eugene...you been on the ale since post 12. You seem very narked . Special Brew ?
James Marshall
185 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:33:18
So you don't have an opinion on transfer activity - you just come on the deadline day thread to do your usual job of trying to belittle other people's opinions and make them look stupid. OK, as long as we're clear.

Cuddles.

Eugene Ruane
186 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:35:26
Dave (174) - Maybe you're right, maybe I need to spell it out.

Link

Ged Simpson
187 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:38:53
Who, Jame?
Harold Matthews
188 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:40:50
David (#173). Yes, I watched this Albanian lad against France. Cracking rightback. Went to Partizan for £1.5mil. Only guessing but Albania may have kept a clean sheet in all their qualifiers. A record I believe.
Dennis Ng
190 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:49:16
Harold, they kept clean sheets away. in a group with Denmark and Portugal, that is spectacular. If only their home form is as good. Don't think RM would bother with our suggestions though.
James Marshall
191 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:49:31
Ged, I thought it was obvious who.

He's resorted to the above so I'm backing out of the whole thing now.

Any bets on what time this Niasse deal will happen?

James Marshall
192 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:50:57
I just read that Niasse has left Finch Farm.....deal on or off?
Eugene Ruane
193 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:53:00
You're a bad lad Ged!
Tony Abrahams
194 Posted 01/02/2016 at 16:57:23
Who knows, James, but with Everton still trying do their business so late, I think it's safe to say Mr Kenwright is still in charge of proceedings at Everton.
James Marshall
195 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:00:12
A couple of reports the deal is done, to be announced imminently.
Charlie Burnett
196 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:02:06
Striker, left,winger, keeper, right back cover. Come on, Roberto pull a big time loan out the bag.
Ray Roche
197 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:03:27
Nick (#165),

The report is on HITC via the Sun bog roll. The "fee" is £5m less than the one Everton were supposed to have been asked for, plus, his side are playing Man City in the Champions League......seems a bit odd, don't you think?

John Keating
199 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:11:29
I hope the 25-year-old Mr Niasse is not similar to the '26-year-old' Yakuboo who had just celebrated his 45th birthday before signing, only bettered by the '24-year-old' Amokachi, who had celebrated his 72nd birthday prior to his debut.
James Marshall
200 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:13:08
Now reports say he hasn't signed.....
Geoff Evans
201 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:22:13
Wanted to join until he met RM, decided to go back to Russian winter.
Peter Carpenter
202 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:22:26
Peter Odemwingie just overtook me on the M53 doing about 90mph.
Teddy Bertin
203 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:25:33
Eugene is in a great mood.

James where are you hearing that? Is it off?

Brent Stephens
204 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:29:04
Sky saying its still on.
Ray Roche
205 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:30:55
Wiki says he's signed a a three-and-a-half year deal for £13.5m.
Peter Carpenter
206 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:31:14
No, wait, now he's gone back down the other carriageway!
Ged Simpson
207 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:32:14
I know, Eugene, mate. I think this guy will sign as we cannot afford return fare. Hope he does.

Try Tenants Extra...I use that and then bait folk on Daily Express site. Such fun!

Ged Simpson
208 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:34:27
Word is RS have offered more. Whose word, though?
Kevin Tully
209 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:37:03
I've heard on good authority that Tim Howard has handcuffed himself to the chef in the Hot Wok and has flushed the keys down the bog. Never get rid of the bastard.
Geoff Evans
211 Posted 01/02/2016 at 17:49:09
Andrew 105: When are we having ours?
Eddie Dunn
212 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:08:17
Breaking News, Barton, Nugent and Jason Koumas all meeting Roberto at the Adelphi right now.
Colin Glassar
213 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:14:35
Massive barney, Eddie. Have we signed Knees-ass yet (that's how you pronounce his name, apparently)? Any complications?
John Jones
214 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:17:09
Looks like Niasse is gonna be the only one, anybody heard otherwise?
Colin Glassar
215 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:18:38
Gary Cahill was rumoured earlier on. Would that be a loan deal?
Robin Cannon
216 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:19:57
Has Riquelme signed yet.
John Jones
217 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:35:39
If Cahill is available get him, take him permantely in the summer as part of a deal for Stones.
Colin Hughes
218 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:37:49
Pointless signing, we need defenders. Goalscoring hasn't been a problem this season but letting them in, even scoring 3 in a game is seldom enough for us to win games so don't expect anything to change any time soon. Expect another two against on Wednesday.
Geoff Evans
219 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:40:10
Cahill plus cash for Stones.
Danny Halsall
221 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:41:06
On a side note, I have been watching SSN since about 4:45pm, so nearly 2 hours and nothing has been mentioned about Everton, they haven't even had any coverage of the reporter outside the training ground. Meanwhile, I must have heard Klopp's assessment of Guardiola about 4 times. Is it me being sensitive or is there a bit of bias going on?

They have been talking about Jordan Rhodes's move to Middlesborough more FFS. What is going on with Everton's attempts to sign a £13.5m striker?

Gavin Johnson
222 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:41:41
Didn't anyone hear that we were in talks with David Nugent earlier?! I hear Roberto and Nugent's advisor's couldn't agree terms so we've made a late move to try and persuade Lee Trundle out of retirement.
David Greenwood
223 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:42:05
Total bias, Danny.
Gerard Carey
224 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:43:24
Niasse just failed medical, dodgy knees, think they call it "the Leroy Fer syndrome"!!!!!!!!!.
James E Evans
225 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:43:45
Well said, Colin (#202).

I would rather Martinez spent the money on a top class keeper or experienced centre half (Gary Cahill, anyone?). Even better we could use the money to pay off Martinez contract....
Colin Glassar
226 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:43:49
They're searching for a pen, Danny.
John Hughes
227 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:47:28
Martinez has been seen in Harvey Nicholls in Manchester with Pep's misses asking if she can get him an assistant job 'cos he knows all the big words in English!
Paul Mackie
228 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:51:48
I've done some reading on Niasse and he sounds like an ideal replacement for Kone. Can play on the left and is apparently an excellent team player who's not shy with tracking back. Blisteringly quick as well.
Gavin Johnson
229 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:53:11
The irony if Gary Cahill ended up at Everton and was forced out of Chelsea by the incoming John Stones after he went on SSN and publicly tried to turn Stones's head.
Steve Hogan
230 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:54:15
The madness that is Transfer Deadline Day sometimes has it's lighter moments... so much so, that when I checked my Twitter account recently, well at 11am today actually, I noticed that the very attractive (am I allowed to say that) wife of our potential new signing Oumar Niasse has kind of given the game away.

'Pookie' has wished her husband 'well' for his medical today, and hope he comes home in a blue shirt.

Before you check out her Twitter account, you'd better go and take a cold shower, and be sitting down... ahhh, footballer's wives, eh?

Ged Simpson
231 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:55:07
Over sensitive. Just turn SSN off....

It's for knobs!

Colin Glassar
232 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:55:41
What is it, Steve? Just out of pure intellectual curiosity...
William Cartwright
233 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:57:35
When he's having his medical do you think the doctor will spot the bandage on his wrist? What's it all about anyway, it's in all the videos...
John Keating
234 Posted 01/02/2016 at 18:59:50
Need a big strong central defender ASAP
Eddie Dunn
235 Posted 01/02/2016 at 19:06:17
Colin; Niasse is a big Keith Lemon fan!
Phil Walling
236 Posted 01/02/2016 at 19:08:48
John, 'the philosophy' determines that it's the goals we score that count, not the ones against, so if Mr Nice Guy can match Romelu for hitting the net, we will win every game 6-4.

Just think of the excitement as Roberto is finally vindicated!

Frank Thomas
237 Posted 01/02/2016 at 19:25:31
I hope I am wrong but I have grave doubts about signing Niasse. He seems to have a good football brain but almost all the goals and assists that I have seen of him on YouTube would not result in a goal in the Premier League and his footwork seems poor.

At the reported £13M~15M it could be way too much. Remember, McGeady came from the same league; his goals and skills looked great against Moscow teams prior to buying him and he was reputed to be only cost about £4M.

I think it is another panic buy,

Gavin Johnson
239 Posted 01/02/2016 at 19:33:39
Oviedo to Newcastle rumour... Thoughts??
Dave Hall
240 Posted 01/02/2016 at 19:40:21
I'd sell Oviedo if the price is inflated to deadline day proportions. Can't rely on him, he's never fit.
Phil Sammon
241 Posted 01/02/2016 at 19:51:36
He's no right-back, we can say that for sure.
Dennis Ng
242 Posted 01/02/2016 at 19:58:24
I'd keep Oviedo, versatile player, can fill many positions in the long run. Unless Newcastle puts up silly money, I would say no to everything. He's been injured for so long that we're only pricing him based on what he has done lately, which isn't a lot of games.

On Naisse, he was player of the year, right? As dodgy as the Russian league might be, that is a good thing to win regardless. £13M is definitely a gamble, and while I prefer us signing another position, I don't remember many league player of the year going for just £13M.

Steve Durham
243 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:00:02
Ravanelli, £15m. You heard it here first.
Andy Bone
244 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:00:12
I was going to put a bet on us not getting the deal over the line in time. The odds were shocking! I know it is a lot of money but why can't we just get it done and dusted. I know I'll wake up tomorrow and see "West Ham sign Niasse".
Colin Glassar
246 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:14:57
Anferny Gardner is coming back as defensive coach.
Guy Hastings
247 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:23:02
John Terry on loan.
Gavin Johnson
249 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:29:33
A serious left-field signing I would have gone for today would have been Man Utd's Nick Powell who Moyes tried to sign a few seasons ago. Out of contract in the summer, so he would have cost peanuts. He can play as a 2nd striker and is still young. Definitely a better prospect than Sam Byrne, who we had off 'em.
Gavin Johnson
250 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:31:50
Actually scrap that idea. Nick Powell had a loan spell at Wigan so would get slaughtered on TW.
Eivind Nyhus
251 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:39:04
I wonder who this other player might be. Hope he's a defender.
Dick Fearon
254 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:51:50
On the OS, a picture of thumbs up Naise in the club shirt. Deal done!
Mike Hayes
255 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:52:19
Signed at last!
John Austin
256 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:52:36
BBC have just announced that Niasse has signed £ £13.5M.
Paul Carsley
257 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:53:24
He looks about 50 in his picture...
Phil Walling
258 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:53:26
Everything left until the last moment for dramatic effect. We have secured a remarkable talent which will continue the progress we have been making over the past two-and-a-half years.

Or something like that, anyway!

Craig Fletcher
259 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:54:43
Niasse is a done deal. BBC reporting it now.
Guy Hastings
260 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:55:50
A two-part medical – which two parts?
Phil Roberts
261 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:56:13
I have Wednesday 3:56pm in the sweepstake for the announcement that we cannot get his work permit.

We are Evertonians. We expect this.

Tony Hill
262 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:56:13
Excellent news. I think he's going to be a major asset.
Don Alexander
263 Posted 01/02/2016 at 20:57:42
The first doc found a defensive bone in his body. Bobby wanted to confirm it could be extracted before signing him.
Christy Ring
264 Posted 01/02/2016 at 21:00:15
Hope he justifies the price tag. He can play left-wing, as well, and supposedly has great work rate, so will be a huge improvement on Kone.
Phil Roberts
265 Posted 01/02/2016 at 21:01:13
I also love our players/ex-players who are true Evertonians. Those who understand. Those who know. Those who feel the frustrations that we as supporters do. They are supporters like us first and players second.

Michael Ball tweeted at 8:49 – "C'mon! Why why why does it takes ages for us to complete a transfer! Hope that fax machine works! Need 2 players who will walk straight in."

He knows. He is one of us.

Carl Taylor
266 Posted 01/02/2016 at 21:02:29
The picture of him in his Everton Shirt screams, "You're my wife now Dave"!!

Good luck to the lad, hope he justifies the fee and the write up.

Dave Winter
267 Posted 01/02/2016 at 21:06:04
Fantastic, maybe a keeper who likes to come and catch and centre half who likes to head the ball before 11pm. Very happy bout this guy apparently he's been watching us since he heard in October? 15 goals and 8 assist in 23 games, goal or an assist every game (averaging).
Keith Monaghan
268 Posted 01/02/2016 at 21:10:42
Other than what I've read in the last couple of days, I know nothing about him, but Player of the League – even in the Russian league – ought to be decent. So the cynics who ridiculed the club's ability to get it done are proved wrong!

Glad McGeady's gone, just hope it becomes permanent – he flattered to deceive everywhere, even at Celtic – a bad buy.

Glad we rejected interest in Oviedo – hoping his niggling injuries are behind him and thinking he could start a few games at LB, given Leighton not looking so hot – no way should we be thinking about selling him.
Ian Riley
269 Posted 01/02/2016 at 21:11:19
Not got a clue who he is but let's wait and see. A fee of £13.5 million is fair business looking at his record in the Russian league. He has got pace which will help. Competition for Lukaku. When we look at strikers going for massive fees, this is relatively cheap.

Any player moving from any country, the price is going to be over the odds. All clubs know the money floating around the Premier League. It's cash in time! Martinez is right to get another striker in. Martinez has gone for the best form of defence, attack!

Helen Mallon
270 Posted 01/02/2016 at 21:11:33
Lukaku to PSG then?
Laurie Hartley
271 Posted 01/02/2016 at 21:14:23
Nasty midfielder with Premier League experience – Charlie Adam.
Colin Glassar
272 Posted 01/02/2016 at 21:21:20
Never heard of the lad but, welcome aboard.
Dave Southword
273 Posted 01/02/2016 at 21:22:21
Says he has been watching us since October when he found out about our interest. Good sign that he's been on the radar for a while so we've had a good look at him.
David Price
274 Posted 01/02/2016 at 21:59:11
Great signing, I'm hoping Roberto will play quick ball to a twin striking partnership, use Ross at centre mid, breaking from deep and enabling to score the goals he has got in the last two games. Use Mirallas and Deulofeu wide to stretch the opposition.

Our fullbacks could then actually primarily defend and keep the back door shut. Review his loyalty to Tim and then he'll convince me we can achieve something special.

Tony Hill
275 Posted 01/02/2016 at 22:08:21
David (248), that would be my formation too, with McCarthy or Besic protecting the back 4, a back 4 which could indeed concentrate on defending.
Dave Hall
276 Posted 01/02/2016 at 22:11:45
Feels like a great window...

WHAT???

Gavin Johnson
277 Posted 01/02/2016 at 22:21:59
Well done to West Brom for turning down a £24M bid for Berahino from Newcastle. Personally, I'd have snapped their hands off to get shot of the trouble maker, but fair play to them for sticking to their guns.
Colin Glassar
278 Posted 01/02/2016 at 22:24:37
I second that, Gavin; player power is on the wane.

I feel sorry for the Villa manager – No money, no-one wanted to join them, relegation awaits.

Charlie Burnett
279 Posted 01/02/2016 at 23:11:26
Emmmmm, what to think...

Why don't we use the loan market these days? So many great signings have happened today as loans.
John Hughes
280 Posted 01/02/2016 at 23:42:05
Charlie Adam's agent is David Moyes's brother and he didn't sign him before he went to the the dark side so I think that tells a story. So, Laurie, I'm sorry, not for me... but you are right – he is a nasty bugger.
Richard Reeves
281 Posted 01/02/2016 at 23:51:21
Gavin (#254),

Personally I think West Brom are being dicks. He doesn't play much and has 18 months left on his contract so, by the summer, what will he be worth?

Tony Hill
282 Posted 01/02/2016 at 00:01:25
What an empty, pointless club Man City have become. As we saw the other night, they have some deeply unpleasant fans made ugly by their purchased success and now, as they embark on world domination, they have lost all trace of themselves and have become a corporate UEFA farce.

I wouldn't want it for us, I really wouldn't, and it gives me pause for thought.

Jack Cross
283 Posted 02/02/2016 at 03:23:17
I haven't seen or heard of him, to be truthful. So let's hope the reports of him are as good as they seem. We'll soon find out if he's up to the Premier League.

I think that must have been the poorest January window I've seen.

Sad about Villa and their demise. Just shows it can happen to any team, even with a fabulous history.

Harold Matthews
284 Posted 02/02/2016 at 05:46:42
West Brom can't sell to a relegation rival and the player knows it.
Michael Penley
285 Posted 02/02/2016 at 06:42:42
So what's going on with Tim Howard? Did we not manage to get rid of him? Can't say I blame them really, my local Under-12s wouldn't even want a keeper of his calibre.
Anto Byrne
286 Posted 02/02/2016 at 10:15:15
I hope Gibson can get some game time as his passing, as with Cleverley and Barkley, is excellent. I can't believe how he is always out injured. He is still only 28?

He would have to be a better option than Osman or Pienaar who are not exactly spring chickens. I think Barry covers the OAP spot.

Any news on Mirallas or is he another sick note? Is Mo going to be out for long?

Baz Daly
287 Posted 02/02/2016 at 11:56:06
This guy has been signed to consistently play the role that Kone cannot. He looks like a decent player with a decent attitude. 25 games this season – albeit in Russia – with 13 goals and 12 assists. And as a credible alternative to Rom up top when required.

Based on very little actual evidence other than general body language and some nice touches on a couple of YouTube videos, I've a good feeling about this guy.....

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