Agent: De Boer would 'love' to manage club like Everton

by | 08/05/2016  187 Comments  [Jump to last]

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Renowned Dutch international, former Barcelona defender and current Ajax boss Frank de Boer would be open to considering the job at Goodison Park his representative has said.

Guido Albers has made the claim this weekend as speculation over his future and that of Roberto Martinez builds.

De Boer fell just short of a fifth Eredivisie title today as the Dutch league went down to the wire and Ajax were beaten to the championship by PSV Eindhoven but he has intimated that he will mull his future and the possibility of a fresh challenge this month.

“He would love to join a club like Everton or Valencia,” Albers told NOS. “It's all about the right philosophy and how they play football. That is what Frank is looking for.”

De Boer counts among his Ajax back room staff Arsenal legend Dennis Bergkamp and ex-Manchester United center half Jaap Stam.

Martinez, meanwhile, is facing growing calls for his dismissal at Goodison Park following his side's latest embarrassment, this time a 3-1 defeat at champions Leicester from which he admitted Everton could take no positives.  


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Brent Stephens
1 Posted 08/05/2016 at 15:33:00
His agent - "“It's all about the right philosophy and how they play football. That is what Frank is looking for.”

He's having a laugh at our expense! The right philosophy!

Paul Andrews
5 Posted 08/05/2016 at 15:38:30
De Boer....most capped outfield player for Holland.
Just list this seasons title but won previous 3 seasons.

Defensive coach Jap Stam – best defender to play in Premier League, in my opinion.

Attacking coach .....Denis Bergkamp. No description required.


Just do it, BB.

Anthony Jones
6 Posted 08/05/2016 at 15:40:08
No more philosophies! Just play the frigging game!
Len Gowing
8 Posted 08/05/2016 at 15:50:51
We'll be lucky to get Rupert de Boer if we carry on like this.
Anthony Jones
9 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:00:46
He will replace Roberto The Bore.
Chris Jones
10 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:13:00
You couldn't ask for a better candidate, World renown and respected, young and hungry. Done brilliantly at Ajax, has a formidable back room staff who could be persuaded to join with him.

Could attract players from all around the world. He's interested in us apparently. We should break the bank for him.

Roberto's commitment to a failed philosophy is a recipe for disaster and at a time when we have a squad with great potential and presumably stacks of cash.

Bobby Out, Frank In.

Iain Latchford
11 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:15:22
For God's sake, just make this happen.

If Kenwright sticks with RM when we could have de Boer, Bergkamp and Stam I think I'll end up in a mental asylum.

Mike Allen
12 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:15:35
Anyone would jump at the chance to manage Everton, this fucking clown Martinez doesn't know how lucky he has been to be given the chance to manage a great great club like Everton. Everything in place to move us forward, this arrogant vindictive little man is not worthy of the title manager.

I started watching Everton in the second division never seen anything like the passionless rubbish we have had to put up with these past two years and I didn't much care for the style of play in his first year.

I'd put him on gardeners leave till we sort things out, take the pressure of the players who want to play, the rest do the same we don't want or need them. We want a team that competes in EVERY game we play. If we win something well that's brilliant but firstly at least lets be able to compete and lets start talking about the football again

Gavin Johnson
14 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:20:41
Brent

I guess the philosophy comes from the continuation of having a very good youth policy (like Ajax) that should get better with the investment that's currently happening at Finch farm. As well as building for the long term. I'm not sure managers like Mourinho or Pellegrini would give a stuff about this.

Terry Maddock
15 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:21:51
Kings Dock springs to mind...

It's right there in front of you, it's available and it's what everybody wants........ but then you realise it's up to Bill to make it happen.

Step up, please, Mr Moshiri.

Brent Stephens
16 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:26:07
Fair comment, Gavin.
Geoff Williams
17 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:28:20
The silence is deafening. When will the board announce the sacking of Martinez?
Les Martin
18 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:30:56
We should be so lucky! Let's hope we can make this happen.
Gerard Cannon
19 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:31:11
Fabulous, Len... a true 'laugh out loud' response when I read that!
Mike Berry
20 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:32:34
Please let this be true.
Paddy Howlin
21 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:33:56
This could be a game changing appointment and would prove to me Moshiri really means business. His credentials as a player and an emerging top class coach and his staff speak for themselves. Quite a stark contrast to the ex Wigan, Motherwell and Swansea player we have in charge now. And we wonder why the club is on the slide. Please make this happen....
Colin Glassar
22 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:35:19
De Boer means The Farmer in Dutch.
John Otway
23 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:37:36
Ajax have just thrown away the Eredivisie!!
Ron Marr
24 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:38:59
De Boer as manager sounds great. I hope this happens
Jim Bennings
25 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:40:13
The only philosophy I wish to see is Everton players actually running and looking like they are involved in a competitive football game not strolling around like they are on some beach in Thailand for a pre-season jolly.

I want to see a team not necessarily great (although it would be a welcome bonus) but a team that just looks a tad arsed about personal pride in performances and will break sweat for the club badge.

I don't want any of this philosophy of total football play from the back with Cruyff-like turns and the "ooh look at our possession passing it about between four defenders".

Just give me a bloody team that tries hard!!

Paddy Howlin
26 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:42:25
John (23) our current manager got his last team relegated and was rewarded with the Everton gig. The one before lost in the Play-Off Final the season before being appointed. I can take one 2nd place finish and four titles before that as a sign of demonstrable progress and ambition.
Mark Burton
27 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:43:49
I would take de Boer, de beer, de food and de farewell. Anybody just get Martinez out.
John Otway
28 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:47:35
Merely an observation Paddy. I'd love to see de Boer here along with Stam and Bergkamp. de Boer beaten to it by PSV and Phillip Cocu who I'd equally love to see here.
Gavin Johnson
29 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:53:24
Another incentive to this happening is that we could probably cherry pick the top players from the Ajax side - I like the look of Milik from what I've seen.

If Newcastle go down I'd quite like us to go for the Dutch lad they have in midfield. Can't remember his name from the top of my head. Just the kind of player we're missing.

I think De Boar and Koeman are best all round appointments out of the managers we've been linked with. Of course I'd love us to get Simeone but it's never going to happen.

James Stewart
30 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:56:54
De Boer would be a vast improvement. Top manager, winner and leader as a player. Exactly the calibre we should be approaching.
Liam Reilly
31 Posted 08/05/2016 at 16:57:29
Please make this happen; my number one choice
Kevin Elliott
32 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:08:24
Snap him up before someone else does.
Joe O'Brien
33 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:12:05
Would be a great appointment. No excuse now from the club. A clear come and get me from the man himself. They cannot think about keeping RM with Frank De Bore saying he's interested. Make contact with him please and get it done before he's snapped up by someone else.
Jim Lloyd
34 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:12:26
I suppose now, that the question of what manager, or even any change of manager, has to be dependent on Mr Moshiri deciding to act. If it's it's Boys Pen Billy, I fear there'll be no change at all.
Frightening.
:) good post Len (8)
Anto Byrne
35 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:16:33
Hate to piss on the parade but he seems destined for Arsenal if rumblings around Wenger's future are correct.

Anyway, we can live in hope that Martinez will be gone after the Sunderland game so we can sign off the season with a win.

Dennis Stevens
36 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:17:38
If Moshiri fails to act then I fear we are stuck with same old, same old Everton - unless he's only here to clear the path for Usmanov, of course.
Chris Regan
37 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:17:47
After seeing Graham Sharp and Graham Stuart on SSN trying to talk up Martinez I fear it's more BK bs trying to convince fans Martinez should stay. I was surprised with the Echo's article 'Time to say goodbye Martinez?' It's unusual for the Echo to even remotely criticise the Goodison hierarchy. Perhaps they're confident they know something we don't.

For me, despite the body language of Martinez, his criticism of players and admitting to no positives from yesterday's performance. Oh and randomly criticising Moyes who left ages ago. I'm certain Kenwright would stick with him. Seriously worried and angry.

Iain Latchford
38 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:18:16
Surely Moshiri needs to flex his muscles now and do the necessary.

Kenwright maybe a fool but surely even he must know that it would be suicide to stick with a Martinez now that de Boer has (apparently) made himself available.

Let Frank have the evening off after losing the league today then call him first thing tomorrow morning.

Peter Foy
39 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:22:29
Bill will fuck it up. Guaranteed.
Jim Hillier
40 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:27:37
De Boer, Stam and Bergkamp. Fucking hell, I think I just came

Chris Wilson
41 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:28:16
It would just be like us to have an opportunity to sign De Boer, or another really talented manager, and we'd have a board room civil war with Bill wanting to keep Roberto, and Moshiri wanting...you know...somebody who is a good manager.
Eddie Dunn
42 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:41:07
Just clearing my compost heap and a worm told me that Moyes was returning on a two year deal along with Phil Neville and Alan Stubbs.
The centipede on the old piece of wood was happy that at least we would be able to defend set-pieces once again.
It has been a hot day.
Charlie Lloyd
43 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:41:39
The prospect of De Boer, Stam and Bergkamp is mouth watering. A big improvement on what we currently have.

I believe it could be achievable but the board need to act.

Are they capable?

Damian Wilde
44 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:42:14
What fid GS & GS say on SSN? Paid employees towing the bullshit line.

Would love FDB. What a back room team as well. DB played at a slightly higher level then Greame 'Briflington United' Jones. And JS a higher level player than Denis 'Trinidad & Tobago' Lawrence.

Please let it happen.

Jim Lloyd
45 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:42:44
Interesting, Dennis! (36) But Mr Moshiri, if he means business about this club, will do for me. The next couple of weeks could be a make or break for our our club.
Gavin Johnson
46 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:43:12
Umm, decisions, decisions...Dennis Bergkamp or Graham Jones...Jaap Stam or Dennis Lawrence?!? Just the change in back room staff make this an absolute no brainer!!

Wouldn't Bergkamp or Stam be in the running to get the Ajax job though?! I suspect one of them would probably take over from De Boar.

Paul Hesketh
47 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:43:52
Just get it sorted Bill before Valencia step in.
Jim Bennings
48 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:44:32
Eddie

Quickly stamp on that damn worm and bury the centipede under a mountain of soil never to be seen again and finally go and sit in the shade until you come to your senses.

Brendan Fox
49 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:49:27
If there is a god please make this happen! This would change everything for the club as a statement of intent.

The mentality that currently exists in the club which allows for mediocrity season to season needs to be banished and the club needs to reach for the stars and aim to win every competition we enter. To do this we need a top manager and coaching team and not this bunch of B grade loosers we have in charge.

De Boer is the man to make this happen for all the long suffering supporters!

Paul Ellam
50 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:49:32
This is a very important moment in our club's history.
The new majority investor Mr Moshiri MUST show that he means business.
He MUST make a statement to not only Evertonians but clubs worldwide.
To do that he MUST sack Martinez and bring in a manager who can match his own ambitions.
De Boer is such a manager. He only has limited experience in the Dutch League admittedly but he has been successful there and also brings with him his name and then names of his backroom staff who footballers worldwide know and would love to work with.
There are other managers out there, good managers, but for this reason alone I believe he should be our number 1 target.
I am excited to be linked with him and this snippet of info that he may be interested too is great news.
I just hope that Moshiri can see that under Martinez we aren't going forward and a change is needed.
The timing is perfect, we have a chance to really make a statement here. Fingers crossed!
Nick Armitage
51 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:52:30
I'd settle for Frank Sidebottom rather than continuing with our Catalan buffoon at the helm.
Eddie Dunn
52 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:53:34
thanks Jim - I don't know what came over me! Doused everything with Jeyes fluid and retired to the potting shed.
Colin Malone
53 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:54:32
Eredivisie League? 18 teams, Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord, mmmmmm, who else? Twente errr.

Thanks but no thanks, Frank. Martin O'Neill for me.

Kim Vivian
54 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:55:47
We have to remember there isn't officially a vacancy for the job pf managing Everton yet. I had been hoping that things were being done behind the scenes to get someone else in place, and I can't decide whether this titbit suggests that they have or haven't.

It just seems absurd that he might stay so we should just bite the bullet, pay RM off and move on.

Does anybody think there may be some contractual clause relating to year on year finishes?. I'm sure there must exist in football some equivalent of (eg sales) targets in business.

It may be possible that finishing lower year on year triggers a significantly lower contract termination pay off which would mean nothing can be made official until after the final match or until the outcome was established.Hence the silence.

Neil Lawson
55 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:56:33
Just sign him up. Even if his philosophy is a bit dodgy at least Stam will be able to drill the defence.

Seriously, this is an outstanding opportunity if it is true. Dismiss the idiot and sign the farmer. The atmosphere on Saturday would be utterly transformed.

But what, in reality, are the chances?

Chris Wilson
56 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:57:16
Is Stam on the Ajax coaching staff? It says he is on Wikipedia, but the link to that on the Ajax page leads to a dead end, and I didn't see Japp listed as a coach on the Ajax site. De Boer could hire him, of course.

And Bergkamp coaching our attackers would be great, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was offered the Ajax job after De Boer left.

Colin Glassar
57 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:58:27
I'd settle for Frank Spencer right now Nick, oh wait........

De Boer and his boys would be a good choice but would Dennis Bergkamp travel with us to Europe if we get European football?

Mark Melton
58 Posted 08/05/2016 at 17:59:35
I see no one's mentioned Valencia. The weather's nicer.
Chris Wilson
59 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:01:49
I hear the weather is nicer in Valencia ; )
Mark Melton
60 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:06:46
And the food
Colin Glassar
61 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:09:01
Best Paella in Spain, Mark
Mark Melton
62 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:12:42
No contest then, unless the three of them are fans of the curry at Masterchef
Dean Adams
63 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:16:13
Do any of them speak Spanish then?
Antonio Michaels
64 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:18:05
We can but dream of such high quality coaches. We have not had the best here for years.
Colin Glassar
65 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:19:44
De Boer does Dean.
Jim Lloyd
66 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:20:05
It's hotter here than in Spain and our chief Chef has just won an award (think it was for scouse) so we're streets ahead.
Mike Green
67 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:21:17
Well, that does make things interesting...
Damian Wilde
68 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:24:16
Good point Fav, DB may want the Ajax post.
Joe O'Brien
69 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:24:57
The premiership is a better league than la liga
Dean Adams
70 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:25:12
Colin . Does DE Boer have any previous links with Valencia? Or is it just from his time with Barca?
Ian Glassey
71 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:29:26
Chris Wilson 56.
Bergkamp has come out and said he has no interest in becoming a manager, he likes being a coach working with the strikers.
But he may wish to stay at Ajax anyway.
Derek Williams
72 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:30:29
So, the perceived wisdom is that he's "lost the dressing room".

There's no doubt at all that he's lost the fans.

Unfortunately the only man who can pull the trigger still seems to think it'll all be alright on the night. Come on Billy Nero, stop fiddling, Rome's well and truly ablaze

Patrick Murphy
73 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:30:31
Frank De Boer would obviously fit right into the Everton way. Today his side Ajax had to overcome relegated Da Graafschap to win the title but his team only managed to draw 1-1 whilst their rivals PSV, managed by Philipe Cocu, won their game and thus pipped Ajax to the Eredvidise title.

Ray Said
74 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:31:23
But this would mean the club employing coaches who have actually won some of those title thingys and have footie played at the highest levels-AND WON STUFF!! With medals and everything!!This may be usual practice at other big clubs but its revolutionary stuff for BK. Do you think he knows?
Chris Wilson
75 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:33:43
Cheers, Ian Glassey. Never knew he said that. Was that a recent comment?
Liam Reilly
76 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:42:48
I swear if Moyes comes back or we take another chance on a fucking championship manager when this guy is basically saying: come and get me; then I am fucking done with this club.

This is a watershed moment for me and I won't have my kids raised on false dawns and tears and be regularly bummed by our neighbours.

Colin Glassar
77 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:43:07
Not that I know of Dean. He played for several years in Spain and the Dutch usually speak several languages anyway.

I think we will have a Dutch master next season be it Koeman, De Boer or even Cocu. As long as its not LVG.

Clive Rogers
78 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:43:20
Colin #22,
If he comes then he could farm Niasse out to a second division somewhere.
Fran Mitchell
79 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:43:28
Seems a logical decision.

Brian Denton
80 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:44:17
Patrick Murphy (73) that is spot on if true!

Sign him up NOW.

Patrick Murphy
81 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:46:48
Brian (80) I sourced it from the Daily Mail so I would hope that it's true :)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3579664/PSV-Eindhoven-retain-Eredivise-title-final-day-Ajax-slip-Graafschap.html
Clive Rogers
82 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:49:39
Nick #51,
He's dead. Or is that what you meant?
Stewart Lowe
83 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:51:29
The Dutch League is not massively stronger than the Scottish League. Yes there are plenty of decent Dutch footballers out there but nearly all of them play abroad and most notably in the English, Spanish and German Leagues. To add to that, only 2-3 seasons ago Steve McClaren won the title with FC Twente and you get the general idea as to how weak that league is. So although 4 Dutch titles in 5 years looks impressive for De Boer, its no more impressive than Celtic doing the same, and I wouldn't want O'Neill, Lennon or Deila to Manage us.

We have one real shot at this as we arent wealthy enough to keep bank rolling failing managers.

Brian Harrison
84 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:54:01
Some days I think no BK cant still back RM, as most fans have given up on him. Then other days I think maybe the silence is a way of backing him without having to make any statements to the press. Funny how BK is always there with a quote when things are going well but you never hear from him when there not.

There is no doubt that without a statement saying he has gone, next Sunday against Norwich the atmosphere will be toxic irrespective of the result on Wednesday against Sunderland. Because if he is still in charge we will have to protest that much that BK will have to make a statement.

Richard Leeming-McHale
85 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:56:52
Please, stop teasing!! I fear allowing myself to dream of this happening , since Kendall; can you remember any better prospect?? (Or between Catterick to Kendall for that matter)... a one of chance – TAKE IT NOW!!!!
Colin Glassar
86 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:59:08
Clive, I can see Niasse playing for Kamchatka FC next season. Siberia will do him a world of good.

A manager like Koeman or De Boer would probably convince, fellow Dutch speaker, Lukaku to stay and I imagine JS would like to learn his trade under someone like Jaap Stam.

Eddie Dunn
87 Posted 08/05/2016 at 18:59:59
After what we have all endured over the last Moyes season, and the last two Martinez seasons, I think it is about time that the club, bites the bullet and spends big, as big as they can, and bring in a manager with a proven track record of success.

A manager who has won things in either the PL, Spain, Italy or Germany or even Holland. Please dig deep, and give us a big name that will make the football world sit up and take notice.

Put money at the new man's disposal, and let him get in his staff and players. This way we might have a chance of attracting some decent players to the "project".

Iain Latchford
88 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:03:30
Down from 12/1 to 8/1 on Betfair but not surprising really.

If this or something similar doesn't happen it's clear Moshiri isn't running Everton, or likely to be in the near future.

Jimmy Sørheim
89 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:07:05
I like the youth mentality inprinted in managers from Ajax, personally I would love the whole coach team at Ajax to upgrade the abysmal level of coaches at Everton.

I have no idea about his playing style, I hope he prefers 4-4-2.

The reality is Kenwright will screw this up as he always does by waiting too long to sack Martinez, De Boer will then be at Valencia.

Just get rid of Martinez already, where is the balls at the board level???

Clive Rogers
90 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:07:19
Eddie #87,
Exactly. That's where Kenwright went wrong and gave us 20 years of decline.
Amit Balaggan
91 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:07:40
With all the names floating around I still feel Guss I the best fit.

1. Has PL experience.
2. It good in man management and hence most likely to convince stones and Barley to stay.
3. Is good with youngsters.
4. Flexible in tactics

Lets have him for a year, stablize the club, maybe reach Europa League which would make club more attractive to players and a big name coach.
Amit Balaggan
92 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:08:41
...and is a big enough name to attract good players
Mike T Jones
93 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:10:24
Len Gowing (#8),

That made me laugh; something I've not done much of on this site recently.

Jim Lloyd
95 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:11:51
Kenwright has to go first. If he stays in power, this club is finished.
Brian Williams
96 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:13:02
Lukaku speaks Dutch?
Kieran Kinsella
97 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:13:13
How about a manager who has won the league seven times in a row, reached Champs league semi, Europa final. His name is Walter Smith. Beats this guy on paper and says it all about these B leagues.

If you manage Ajax Porto or Celtic you win the league. The special ones do that plus win the Champions League e.g. Mourinho and Van Gaal. Getting De Boer would be like getting the soon-to-be-fired Celtic manager.

Terry Riley
98 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:15:42
I actually live in the Netherlands and I would be horrified to see de Boer at Everton.....the reason being if you can't succeed at Ajax in a League that's only a nursery for Europe's bigger Leagues, then you'll never succeed. <>De Boer is typical dutch, Everton would only be a temporary appointment with an eye to a " bigger club". Koeman however has proved he can operate in the Premier League....
Richard Reeves
99 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:20:13
De Boer is my first choice. I think he would get the whole team playing to impress, he'd bring through a lot of the youth players increasing the value of the squad and I think the players he would sign would also be very good young players.

Many fans have said how they wish we had the recruitment team of Southampton but Pochettino hadn't done much at Espanyol and Koeman's achievement's aren't as impressive as De Boer's.

I hope he's identified as the main target, it's wrapped up soon and there isn't an interview process for Kenwright to wedge his big head in and with those sausage fingers point at a name like Eddie Howe.

Iain Latchford
101 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:21:28
Koeman isn't "typical Dutch" then?
Eric Myles
102 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:23:24
Brian #96, Lukaku being Belgian would speak Flemish, which is pretty close to Dutch.

Mirralas too.

Frank Crewe
103 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:23:26
If Lukaku speaks dutch that's one up on Martinez. All he speaks is fluent gibberish.
Terry Riley
104 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:25:12
Koeman had proved himself in Spain, Holland and England and indeed there would be No Contest if Arsenal where going for him. But Koeman would be my personal choice.
Iain Latchford
105 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:29:22
I've no doubt someone like de Boer would see himself moving on to bigger things in the future. If he puts us back on the map and moves onto Barca in five years he'd go with my blessing.
Brian Williams
106 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:33:58
Koeman for me...nuff said.
Grant Rorrison
107 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:39:37
106 Brian. Agreed.
Ian Glassey
108 Posted 08/05/2016 at 19:46:12
Chris 75. From what I read yes it was a recent coment.
Clive Rogers
110 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:17:12
Jim 95,
Its not clear how much power Kenwright has now. My guess is he's just a figurehead. Obviously he can voice his opinion at board meetings but surely the Josh can always outvote him.
Clive Rogers
112 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:23:36
Mosh not Josh
Colin Malone
114 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:32:08
Eredivisie League? 18 teams, Ajax, PSV, Feyenoord, mmmmmm, who else? Twente errr.

Thanks but no thanks, Frank. Martin O'Neill for me.

Colin Malone
115 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:37:22
One of the many things you can say about Martin O'Neill, is a fucking big load of PASSION guaranteed. Why did he leave Villa?

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2010/aug/09/martin-oneill-aston-villa.

The owner Lerner never had the same aspiration as O'Neill.

Des Farren
116 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:44:34
So Frank would like to manage Everton. Even before a vacancy has arisen? What does that say to Evertonians? That he is ambitious? Or manipulative?

Do we think or care as long as we rid ourselves of the devil incarnate? Probably not.
Kim Vivian
118 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:48:00
I believe Rom is actually fluent in 6 or 7 languages.
Colin Glassar
119 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:55:15
As has been said, Rom speaks several languages, Dutch being one of them. Roberto isn't far behind, he speaks Spanish, Catalan, English but mainly he speaks double Dutch.
Gavin Johnson
120 Posted 08/05/2016 at 20:59:53
Terry #104

Are you by any chance the Terry Riley who wrote 'In C' and 'Rainbow in Curved Air'?! I've been listening to 'In C' this afternoon. Great piece of music.

I agree, Koeman has also managed in Portugal and has had some success in the Prem so has to shade it over De Boar. At the same time, I'd also be happy with De Boar. He has the name, the back room staff and knows about winning as a player and manager. He also gets brownie points for wanting the job.

Brian Williams
122 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:05:05
Have to say the De Boer link is a tenuous one at best.
He was asked a question which he replied directly to.
How many times have we seen this sort of journalism where the journo asks a very specific leading question and then reports the reply without touching on the question at all.....much ado about nowt I reckon.
Colin Malone
123 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:10:28
Lets talk of all these of managers from the playing field to management.
There are many great players who have thought that they will walk into football management/ coaching. Shearer, Lawrenson, Dalgliesh, Brian Robson, ROBERTO MARTINEZ, and many more.

What do the above lack? PERSONA.Kendall, Catterick, Shankly, Clough,Jack Charlton, Jose Mourinho.

What does Martin O'Neill have? That special persona.
Tony Dove
124 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:16:12
I don't know about Lukaku but Roberto certainly speaks double dutch.
Paul Kossoff
125 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:17:11
Brent 1, our philosophy is to play football, 'school of science'.

We want that skill factor as Everton supporters, so possibly that's what is being alluded to here and that's the same at Ajax, they are a footballing side so I would love him here, and his coaches.
John Aldridge
126 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:25:10
Get him signed on the dotted line Moshiri - this is the type of manager we need. Make it happen!
Dave Abrahams
127 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:30:19
Kim (118) and he is a lazy bastard in all of them.
Andy Walker
128 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:39:03
We need a manager who's managed a team that's won a top European league. Why take the risk with an unproven newbie? It could be Martinez v2. Get a top European manager in Mosh if you are serious and want to maximise your investment.
Eric Holland
129 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:40:31
Thanks but no thanks, Frank. Martin O'Neill for me. WHY??? please explain the reasoning? and not because he is Irish!!!!
Gerard Carey
130 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:47:34
Lets hope things happen sooner rather than later. The new man needs to get things sorted as quick as possible.

If certain players want to leave, let them piss off. Spend the money on those interested in playing for Everton, build a decent squad and get a good pre-season in.

I think Koeman would be a good shout.

Mark Pringle
131 Posted 08/05/2016 at 21:47:57
Roberto is gone and he knows it; it's all over his body language.

It pains me to say it but the best result of the weekend was the Mancs winning at Norwich. Hopefully they make top 4 and keep LVG. Then all that's left is for Moshiri to put his money where Bill's mouth is and hire Mourinho.

Forget these up-and-coming 'philosophy' managers, we are having our fingers burned with one of these clowns at the moment. De Boer is just a slight upgrade on what we've got; nothing great.

For once, get it right and bring in an outright winner. Is Mourinho arrogant, controversial and obnoxious? Absolutely... good!! That's what we need: a winner. I'm fed up with all this nicely nicey garbage, getting us nowhere.

And as for this notion he can't win without money, firstly, he did well with Porto and secondly, we are supposed to have bloody money now!! Tell you what: if Man Utd don't appoint him, he would come!! I just don't think we have the bottle... C'mon, Mr Moshiri, surprise me!

Fran Mitchell
132 Posted 08/05/2016 at 22:14:23
Comparing the Dutch League to the Scottish one is unfair. The Dutch league is a step down from the PL, La Liga and the Bundesliga but is a step up from the Scottish one.

The Scottish league is on par with League 1 at best, and Celtic have zero competition.

In the Dutch league, beyond Ajax you also have PSV and Feyenoord as teams with pedigree.

De Boer seems a very sensible choice, and Everton a decent option for him.

We ain't gonna get an A-class manager, nor is Koeman an option (why would he come to us? his next step is Arsenal, Utd, or something similar) so either we go for someone who could be a hit like de Boer or accept a mediocre manager but slight improvement (O'Neill).

Also think Rudi Garcia would be a decent shout.

Ian Riley
134 Posted 08/05/2016 at 22:45:24
Sorry to disappoint all on here. At present we don't have a vacancy to fill. If Martinez was to go I would have expected it by now. Why? Each place in the Premier League is millions. Every loss is money.

The club have released figures on season ticket sales are as good as last year. If a new manager walks through reception at goodison. What a job he has. Currently, the team has no confidence, physically, and emotionally not there.

Everton are a rebuilding job. We have gone back eight years. This is not a quick fix. I don't think a manager who has not got a clue about the league let alone the club will help. O'Neil and Kean might help. Stubbs and sheedy have served apprenticeships.

Koeman is a great shout but it's going to take some sales pitch. Will he want champions league? All I know is the next manager needs to have experience in making big decisions. Players coming, going, and kicking some up the arse.

Like I said at the beginning. Martinez is still in post. Please don't be surprised if he is sitting in the dug out come august.

Kieran Kinsella
135 Posted 08/05/2016 at 22:57:46
Why can't we get an A class manager? Cause we accept mediocrity.

Cast your minds back 20 years when Chelsea were akin to the Crystal Palace of today. They got a new investor and their haggard old chairman hung on. Sound familiar? They went out and signed the likes of Gullit, Vialli and Zola from Serie A which at the time was the strongest league. They didn't say "well we're not Liverpool so we better aim lower and get Brian Talbott from WBA."

More recently, Man City did the same thing when they got Sven who at the time (if not since) was highly regarded in World football. All sorts of big names followed and these are the teams we now compare ourselves unfavorably to.

This crap of "we are just Everton" is an invention of Kenshite that was perpetuated by Moyes and is now an excuse for Martoinez. Go and tell the ghost of Dixie Dean or Howard Kendall or even big Nev that "We're just Everton" and we are perpetually inferior to Chelsea, Man City, Spurs or the next mediocre side to hit the big time. What a load of bollocks.

We got Kanchelskis when we'd just avoided relegation. We got Cottee when he was a record transfer fee and we had an ailing team of has-beens. What have we got in the Kenshite era? A bean pole with giant elbows, a fat Nigerian who lies about his age, a precocious cast off from Chelsea, a manager who just got relegated.... RELEGATED!!!

If Kenwright had been in charge when Kendall went to Bilbao, no doubt he'd have replaced him with Billy McNeil or Willie McFaul. This sack of crap acts like he's our benefactor and is doing us a favor while holding the club together but he's a con-man. A footballing Bernie Madoff.

Gavin Johnson
136 Posted 08/05/2016 at 23:00:17
Fran - I don't think Koeman is in the A-list of managers, yet. It's feasible he might want to wait for the chance of managing a club like Arsenal. But when is Wenger going to leave and would he be the man they'd even want. Jose Mourinho looks set to be United manager.

I think he'd give managing Everton very serious thought.. Why?!? Hows about the 100m+ transfer war chest and the wages we pay our managers?! Moyes, and now Martinez are on the kind of wages a top 4 clubs pay their managers.

Dennis Ng
137 Posted 08/05/2016 at 23:04:01
Who is an A list manager right from the get go? The best ones we know have a previous history of smaller clubs and then make the big jobs they get count. FDB, Cocu, Koeman, sure, not A list manager now but they are better than what we have. Emery might be a dream for most but we can compete financially now. Let's just hope Moshiri makes a big statement with the right hire.
Gavin Johnson
138 Posted 08/05/2016 at 23:15:53
Dennis

To me the A list are - Simeone, Mourinho, Guardiola, Ancelotti, Conte, and I hate to say it Klopp.

Then there's the A list (in name) which is the likes of LVG, Pellegrini, Wenger who have won lots of trophies but are slowly been ushered out by the first list.

I don't think Koeman, or even Pechettino are A list yet because they've not yet done it (both) at a major league and club. This is where the hierarchies of national leagues come in. Of course Dutch titles don't count as much winning a title in Italy, Germany or England.

Xavier Spencer
139 Posted 08/05/2016 at 23:30:27
Rupert de Boer - cracker, cheered me up no end.
Fran Mitchell
140 Posted 08/05/2016 at 00:06:38
I don't see why Koeman would come to us. He's at a good team, that he has built and is bearing fruit.

Coming to us would, sorry to say, be a step down. In football people tend to try to make moves upwards. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't imagine it.

And that is not because we I view us as 'little old Everton', it is cause we are a team in the bottom half of the league, no trophies for 20 years, and while we may think having 100million to spend (and do we really?) is a lot, all premier league teams will have money to burn this summer.


Ian Pilkington
141 Posted 08/05/2016 at 00:13:35
Mr Moshiri's investment must surely be the light at the end of the very long tunnel that we've had to suffer under the Kenwright regime. We now have the money to return to the big time and attract any manager with the exception of those on the aforementioned A list. Ronald Koeman would certainly move to us, irrespective of our current dismal league position.
Gavin Johnson
142 Posted 09/05/2016 at 00:29:27
Fran - We'll have 𧴜m if we sell Rom and Stones. That's without Moshiri even putting his hand in his pocket.

Yes, going from Saints to Everton would be a sideways move for Koeman. I disagree that it's step down because they're higher in the league. We are a sleeping giant. Southampton aren't and have never had the history to be one in the first place. We can be massive again now we have the backing to do it.

Yes, I think you're right that all the other clubs will also have money. But, for once we will have the money to spend like a top 4 club & more than Saints, West Ham and Stoke. I think the possibilities of what could be done with that kind of money would be very alluring, not to mention the wages we're known to pay our managers.

But if Koeman doesn't want to come I'll be more than happy to have De Boar, Bergkamp and Stam.

Nicholas Ryan
143 Posted 09/05/2016 at 00:41:22
It's all a misunderstanding, and the agent actually said: 'My client would like to manage a nightclub in Everton'!

If Frankie came, would that make the Derby games 'The Boer War'?!

Brian Denton
144 Posted 09/05/2016 at 00:45:05
Gavin, we will NOT get 100m for Lukaku and Stones. Behave.
Mick Davies
145 Posted 09/05/2016 at 00:54:59
What had Kendall won as a manager before we employed him?

And Kieran @ 135, Chelsea is in London, Everton is 'up north' where it's grim. And Abramovich is a billionaire criminal who needs to launder his wedge here to get residency. Moshiri hasn't got billions to throw away, so if he gets us De Boer/Bergkamp, I for one would think of it as the biggest managerial coup in this club's history.

Every appointment is a gamble, but these guys know what it's like to compete at the top, and they've served their apprenticeship battling against the massively funded PSV. But first, we need Chairman Bill Jong to eat humble pie... I'm not holding my breath for that.

Chris Morris
146 Posted 09/05/2016 at 00:58:13
Still no sacking......Please Bill we'll go down with the Spanish Bafoon. This is killing me.
Sean McCarthy
147 Posted 09/05/2016 at 01:02:15
"He would love to join a club like Valencia or Everton."

That'll be him off to Valencia then. We'll be stuck with Bobby Bullshit or "Boyhood Blue", "It's always been my dream to manage Everton" Mark Hughes. With a beaming Billy sat next to him telling us all how bringing Sparky back to Goodison was his plan for years. "He had me at Hello!"

And the pain continues....

Fran Mitchell
148 Posted 09/05/2016 at 02:22:23
'Sleeping giant' doesn't exist, it is a fallacy. Teams don't become successful because of their history.

Our stadium is old and crippled, Southampton's is not. Our star players probably want out, and the rest of the squad is weak. Southampton's squad is deeper, younger and besides Mane, seem happy to remain.

As already stated, Koeman can go to Arsenal or someone of a similar stature. His reputation is high, a move to Everton, for him, will offer little in terms of reputation gain. If he keeps s'oton in the top 8 he has a chance at a 'top' job. Move to Everton and h needs top-4 to be considered a success, despite having greater foundations at his current club.

Fran Mitchell
149 Posted 09/05/2016 at 02:22:59
I would love to eat my words however, a great manger.
Brian Wilkinson
150 Posted 09/05/2016 at 02:23:57
Fdb has quality players already if he comes to Everton, plus money to spend to rebuild.

Stam has quality defenders in place he could work on.

Bergkamp, well hes got the short straw if Lukaku gets his dream move.

I would give Bergkamp the freedom of the City, if he could get us 20 goals out of Kone and Naise.

Gavin Johnson
151 Posted 09/05/2016 at 02:49:41
Some good points there Fran. Although, after where we'll finish again this season I think the prospect of Koeman or any other manager getting Everton to a top 8 finish next season would be an achievement in itself.
David Pearl
152 Posted 09/05/2016 at 03:18:09
Fran Mitchell... fetch me shot gun so I can put me out maar misery!

We are a whole different animal now with Moshiri. Even without him the money in the Prem these days... Have you been reading the papers or what?

If Ranieri can go to Leicester I think Frank de Boer can come to Everton - or have you forgotten your erm (Dr Evil finger) history?!

RM has got to go - the public have spoken (and spoken and spoken.) For me, not because of his tactics or style (which contains plans A - F if you watch the game properly) but because of the toxic nature of our home support, the general ill feeling around the club, the lethargy during games from lazy millionaire little boys... and the mismanagement of certain players (Mirallas, Distin... and now Besic.)

Martinez will be shown the door after the Sunderland game!! Hopefully its a door with a latch and a peep hole so he isn't let back in. If he is kept in charge as far as the Norwich game then Rod help him... it wont be pretty. Surely BK isn't that cruel. The plane that flies above Goodison saying ''time to go Roberto'' might be dropping something on his head. Am I right in thinking we still have a 100% win record with the plane?

We will see RM getting de Boot and being replaced by either de Boer or that Linguini fella from down the Lancs.

Then? Oh well that's easy. Stones and Lukaku will sign new contracts, we will sign Ever Banega, Benteke, Shawcross & Begovic. And win the league next year with our renewed optimism and virtually the same squad as this season!

Jim Hardin
153 Posted 09/05/2016 at 03:47:05
With all due respect to the man, other than winning a title 4 years straight at a second-tier league (based upon UEFA coefficients and rankings of European leagues), what has he done as a manager in CL or Europa against better competition. How could anyone put the man in as an A-lister with the likes of Rafa, Pep, or Jose, or even Conte or Emery? Simply being Dutch cannot be the end all and beat all of the analysis.

What exactly separates him from Neil Lennon as a manager? I wouldn't want him either btw. Why do we complain about mediocrity but then actively seek it out in our choices of manager? I would rather Dyche, given his familiarity with the EPL and his winning the Championship title, be given the job than a manager just because he is Dutch and learned in a system that is a decreasing influence in European football.

Alan J Thompson
154 Posted 09/05/2016 at 03:51:52
Why does everyone seem to think that de Boer's agent speaks for Bergkamp and Stam? It doesn't follow that if we get the head man we get the other two. I would think that at least one of them could see themselves managing Ajax which wouldn't be a bad place to start your management career.
Douglas McClenaghan
155 Posted 09/05/2016 at 05:48:02
I am with the skeptics here. Ajax are a shadow of their former glory and the Dutch league has a small list of genuine contenders, unlike the EPL.
Amit Vithlani
156 Posted 09/05/2016 at 06:03:28
The possibility of sought after managers being snaffled by other clubs increases by the day. De Boer, Pellegrini and even Koeman will have a vast number of options to choose from - Valencia, AC Milan, possibly Inter and perhaps a few other European heavy weights who may be looking to change managers.

In the case of Koeman and De Boer, they also have the option of staying on at their present clubs.

I genuinely hope our board are moving heaven and earth behind the scenes to land their man. Waiting until the summer may be too late.

That is, ofcourse, assuming Martinez is going!

An agonising few weeks lies ahead for me. Should the likes of Koeman and DeBoer tie themselves down or move elsewhere, my anxieties will increase.

Richard Lyons
157 Posted 09/05/2016 at 06:14:56
Len Gowing @8 - you made me laugh out loud at 6am - that's very rare... thanks!
Tim Constable
158 Posted 09/05/2016 at 06:39:58
Personally I'm terrified by the silence coming from the club. We have been given no details of Moshiri's influence over the current board? Why are they not either backing or sacking RM?

I hope and pray that their silence on the matter means that they do not intend to back him for much longer, but why wait until the end of the season when after the semi-final would have been the easiest and obvious time to sack him.

I never though I would stop caring about the club and in truth I do still care about the club, but I don't care for the results or the players right now and if RM is still in charge come August (which I do fear) then I will find it very difficult to attend any game until he goes.

Rick Tarleton
159 Posted 09/05/2016 at 06:48:13
De Boer sounds good, but I'd offer Stam the opportunity to manage. he might teach Stones, if he stays,of course, the first principles of defending first and elegance second.
Seriously, an opportunity to manage might appeal and he'd start from the back which is where we need to start.
Steve Pugh
160 Posted 09/05/2016 at 08:00:29
I don't really care how many trophies our next manager has won in any league other than ours. All I care about is the style of football his teams play, for me that is aggressive and quick in defence with flair added in attack, and whether or not his players are willing to die for him. Many people on here, about three years ago, told me how good Martinez was compared to Moyes because he had won a trophy.

I just can't see it....

Bob Cumiskey
161 Posted 09/05/2016 at 08:01:45
Always admired De Boer as a player. Not too sure about him becoming the manager of my beloved EFC, to be honest. I'm not against it though and would support the appointment to the hilt.

However, I believe that we need to get this appointment right for lots of reasons and my first choice would be Koeman, if we could get him.

John Cross on Talksport this morning says that Martinez is likely to be removed from his duties before the Sunderland game. Let's hope so eh!

Iain Latchford
162 Posted 09/05/2016 at 08:33:04
Steve, that manager is Jurgen Klopp and he's manager of Liverpool. He was available all last summer (and up until around October), but we just completely ignored him and waited for our biggest rivals to snap him up.

Bill Kenwright loves Everton though so it's fine for him to make fuck-up after fuck-up.

Eric Holland
163 Posted 09/05/2016 at 08:40:44
" a small list of genuine contenders, unlike the EPL. "
Is this the mighty EPL that Had 1 semi finalist in this years Champions league and has won it how many times recently??
Koeman could not win the shit Dutch league after 4 years trying, and guess which manager had won it for them 4 years?
Colin Glassar
164 Posted 09/05/2016 at 08:42:56
All these "new manager" threads are brilliant. Every day we are linked with either big, medium or small sized names and every day they are either put on a pedestal or shot on sight.

The likes of Pellegrini, FDB, QSF, AVB, OFM, FSW, Koeman, MON, Dyche, Howe etc....have all been named and all been either lauded or shot down in flames. So, why don't we avoid any further ado and just give Roberto another season to see if he can turn things around? At least we can be united in our distaste for him.

Denis Richardson
165 Posted 09/05/2016 at 08:49:47
Ticks all the boxes and if he brings Stam and Bergkamp with him, jeez that would be fantastic. Proven winner as a player and manager and being Dutch he won't talk utter bollocks like our current manager.

Professionalism & pragmatism is just what we need - this team of three have got god knows how many medals and caps between them and have all played for the biggest clubs in Europe under some of the best managers, ever - cannot really ask for more than that.

Also they won't take any bollocks from BK and we'd likely get some decent youngsters from the Dutch league.

Would be made up if this happens.

Do it BK and all is forgiven (well a lot anyway).

Anthony Hanlon
166 Posted 09/05/2016 at 08:56:20
Bit disrespectful of De Boer' agent to say he'd be interested in the Everton job because, as it stands, Everton have got a manager.
Sam Hoare
168 Posted 09/05/2016 at 09:11:20
I agree Koeman is looking increasingly unlikely. His Southhampton team look very well set and will likely be in Europe next season. They are young and well organised and have less players agitating for a move than we do. If he does well again there next season (which looks likely) then he will likely have a lot of rich doors opening for him. By all means have a try but it looks a sdeways move for him (and that's being optimistic!).

There's gonna be lots of speculation when Martinez gets booted in the next two weeks and I hope we get someone in before the Euros.

Have gone off Pellegrini a bit with their team currently looking a bit of a mess. So given I think Koeman might pass my picks would be De Boer (or Cocu who has bested him twice now with an inferior team), Emery or AVB.

Shane Corcoran
169 Posted 09/05/2016 at 09:26:23
De Boer isn't listed in the betting at all by Paddy Power. Strange, I'd have thought.
Steve Bingham
171 Posted 09/05/2016 at 09:42:43
Right... my head is clearing now after 5 cups of coffee and, due to the glorious weather, I've decided that it's time for some full-on positivity.

Obviously the deafening silence from the board really means that they actually are right on top of this debacle and that, behind the scenes, there is a massive plan and top drawer manager already in place waiting for the 1st June. This dude is primed, ready and cocked to sack 'em, threaten 'em and buy 'em with a couple of hundred mill and by the end of next month, we will all be on here clamouring for the start of next season with gusto and relish!!!

I have just read this back to myself and an now going for a lie down in a darkened room . Hope springs eternal I guess.

Gary Ashworth
172 Posted 09/05/2016 at 09:52:00
Everton is an attractive club to manage for many European managers. I think anyone who comes with Dennis Bergkamp and Jaap Stam in their coaching staff is worth a try. Both excelled is those roles as players and have a wealth of valuable experience to pass on.
Iain Latchford
174 Posted 09/05/2016 at 10:08:40
I think Koeman will hold out for one of the "big jobs". Arsenal are going to be looking for a new manager in a maximum of 12 months. If that job doesn't come up this summer I think RK will wait and see out the remainder of his contract with Southampton. There's also the possibility of the Man Utd job if Mourinho ends up elsewhere (and I don't mean Everton).

There's certainly no guarantee de Boer would bring his assistants with him IF he came.

Ultimately there's no job available yet, as we still have the deafening silence from Everton regarding RM.

Can you get odds on RM to be sacked, and if so what are they?

John Raftery
175 Posted 09/05/2016 at 10:30:35
I am told Amsterdam is in a state of shock after Ajax failed to win the title. De Boer is probably thinking now would be a good time to get out of town.
Daniel A Johnson
176 Posted 09/05/2016 at 10:45:37
Despite googling Martinez sacked every day...........he's still there and that make me very very very nervous.
Iain Latchford
177 Posted 09/05/2016 at 11:10:22
I did like this sentence from the article that was posted on here...

"This balance is necessary to please the Ajax faithful who are not fond of excessive horizontal passing with no intention to combine and penetrate on the flanks."

Lenny Kingman
180 Posted 09/05/2016 at 11:57:04
Yes indeed a holy trinity to die for.

Don't give it a snowballs chance of happening though.

As previously mentioned the Arsenal look a most likely destination with the unhappy Gooners rightly baying for Wenger's blood. With club legend Bergkamp in the deal, plus the Gunners sparkly stadium and facilities it looks inevitable. Final nail will be hammered home with the choice between being in London or Liverpool. The Blues will come a very poor second in De Boer and his ace teams minds I would venture.

That said this appointment would be a day of joy for long suffering fans of Everton but alas unlikely to happen.

Nicholas Ryan
181 Posted 09/05/2016 at 11:57:24
The silence from the Club means one of two things:

(a) Moshiri is quietly terrified, thinking 'Oh, God, How did I get myself into this horror film'?!

or:

(b) He is calmly putting together a plan [to quote Blackadder] 'so cunning that only a Fox who was Professor of Cunning at Oxford could think it up'

I'm praying it's (b)!!

Ian Hollingworth
182 Posted 09/05/2016 at 12:52:32
Yes, yes, yes please.
Make it happen today.
Martinez OUT.
Michael Forshaw
183 Posted 09/05/2016 at 13:34:10
Yeah he probably isn't the most popular man in Ajax at the moment but he would be popular over here. Great backroom staff and a lot of potential for him to get better with us as well.

Also on a practical note, it'll only take him a short flight from Liverpool airport to get home. So he can hit the coffee shops after the big wins.

Michael Forshaw
184 Posted 09/05/2016 at 13:37:49
Lenny, they might want to test him out at our club before signing him for Arsenal. It happens....then at least he could steady the ship.
Aidy Dews
185 Posted 09/05/2016 at 14:06:15
Always been my first choice has de Boer, he's a top young manager. World renowned player and now making a big name for himself in management.

He may of just lost the league to PSV yesterday but the job he's done at Ajax has been top class. He's the only manager in Eredivies history to of won 4 consecutive Dutch titles, and to do that with losing really good players over the years and keep on bringing through the talent is a big testament to him.

I just hope Mr. Moshiri starts to put his foot down in the board room and gets shut of Martinez and makes a move for de Boer. He really could be a great fit for us at this present time!

But IF we did get de Boer, don't be getting excited about the likes of Stam & Bergkamp joining him. Bergkamp doesn't want to leave Holland, he even knocked a coaching role at Arsenal back for that reason and Stam wants to go into management himself and will no doubt fancy the Ajax job so I'd be surprise if any of those 2 came along with de Boer, IF we go for him of course?!

Aidy Dews
186 Posted 09/05/2016 at 14:14:04
Jim Hardin, would you have Koeman?
Geoff Williams
187 Posted 09/05/2016 at 14:42:13
I think we all need a reality check. Much as we all love Everton and believe that they are one of the biggest clubs in the world sadly they're not. We have had a great past but we've done nothing for years and years and there are several generations of supporters who have only experienced mediocrity. West Ham have sold more 50,000 season tickets so we can no longer compete at their level in terms of match day income. To move forward the profile of the club worldwide must improve, announcements on a new stadium must be made asap and finally a big name manager must be appointed to retain the talent we have and attract quality new players. De Boer may be a good start but first let's get rid of the albatross from around the neck of Everton.
Gordon Crawford
188 Posted 09/05/2016 at 14:59:42
We are dropping further and further behind each year. Roberto has to go asap.
We need to raise our profile again. We need a David Beckham in our club or someone like him.
Damian Wilde
190 Posted 09/05/2016 at 15:03:41
I see Marc Overmars is also on the staff there, be great if he came too!
Patrick Murphy
191 Posted 09/05/2016 at 15:13:38
West Ham sell 50,000 season tickets and suddenly they are a big club, well that may or not be true, but Everton, despite the last two decades, remains a decent sized club with the potential to be bigger.

Taking into consideration the fact that Everton FC has done little on or off the pitch in those lost decades, but can still arouse so much passion and has sold circa 25k of season tickets , despite having witnessed one of the poorest league seasons for a good while, shows signs that all is not lost.

If supporters continue to denigrate Everton FC and accept that the club is unable to compete with it's traditional and upcoming rivals then we shall continue to under perform and we will become a truly small club.

The coming six months to two years will probably define which it will be, a good club who actually reaches out and sees how far or big it can become or a 'has been' club which accepts its fate and joins the others such as Leeds, Sheffield W, Forest et al.

Of course it's not for us as supporters to make the correct decisions but if the current set-up doesn't aim for the stars, then Everton FC is doomed to failure for more than a generation and quite possibly for the remainder of its existence.

As supporters we can help the process by ensuring the owners are made aware that the last two decades should not and do not define what Everton FC is all about.

Damian Wilde
192 Posted 09/05/2016 at 15:25:40
I think W.Ham literally gave thousands away, part of the agreement with local council. They'll never be as big as us. I'm getting bored with the media crawling all over them just 'cause they're moving to the olympic stadium disgrace to the tax payer).
James Hughes
193 Posted 09/05/2016 at 15:32:29
Well said Patrick, the lack of drive and ambition from our CEO and staff has been at times quite jaw-dropping. The amazing kit bag agreement and obtaining poor shirt sponsorship is just two of the many deals that beggar belief.

I keep hoping our new billionaire has a large boot to put under their collective arses, as you must surely have acumen to get to the position of his wealth, right?

Michael Forshaw
194 Posted 09/05/2016 at 15:36:03
Damian I'm pretty sure Overmars is on the Ajax board, not a member of coaching staff.
Jim Hardin
196 Posted 09/05/2016 at 16:59:26
Aidy,

Based on his demonstrated ability in the EPL, yes, but unlikely to come. I would rather have Emery, as I believe he is approachable.

Ed Staunton
197 Posted 09/05/2016 at 17:01:29
Imagine what De Boer could do for Stones and what Dennis Bergkamp could do for Barkley...
John Davies
199 Posted 09/05/2016 at 20:15:59
Moshiri should break the bank to get Koeman in. No one else right now in his league. He would make Stones the player that the mad Spaniard claimed him to be already earlier in the season.
Jay Harris
200 Posted 09/05/2016 at 21:40:08
What has happened to our man in Europe - Erik Dols - who I would think would have very good insight into De Boer and any other promising managers in the Dutch and German leagues.

My personal preference would be to go balls out for Simeone (Long shot I know but he might want to pitch his wits in the best league in the world) then Emre or Tuchel. Koeman would be a proven manager if we could get him.

Clive Lewis
201 Posted 09/05/2016 at 22:42:13
It was a decent read the tactical insight into De Boer until the name Louis van Gaal was mentioned and I stopped reading.
Ian Riley
202 Posted 09/05/2016 at 23:27:54
Geoff #187. Spot on. Everton are a big club to us. The ground is seriously lacking premiership standard. Peter Johnson recognised this and started building the business up. Mega store and park end stand. The team or ground have not been invested for many years.

When I talk to other fans. They talk of Everton as a old fashioned club. Sometimes it's hard to believe we are one of the oldest clubs to remain in the top flight. Our only hope is our new owner has a plan or we will be left behind.

Derek Knox
203 Posted 10/05/2016 at 09:25:15
If I can just say that Koeman has had a taste of the Premier League, and while the club sold most of their assets, has done remarkably well (better than us) so therefore would welcome him with open arms

Having said that, maybe it's fantasy, but the prospect of De Boer, Jap Staam and Denis Bergkamp as a unit, albeit,untested at Prem Level, is a mouth-watering prospect, which I would fancy more.

So really, either would be okay with me, but I am assuming that they would want to come anyway!

Dan Nulty
204 Posted 10/05/2016 at 09:25:59
Clive, the difference is at Ajax they play more direct than Van Gaal's team. The other difference is the pressing for the ball which he favours, unlike Man Utd who seem happy to sit back. The two styles are incomparable in my view. Read into the comparison defensive organisation.
Aidy Dews
205 Posted 10/05/2016 at 10:50:28
See, people are writing De Boer off cos of his achievements in a "second rate" league but yet wouldn't mind Koeman who came to Southampton from the same league and couldn't even compete with De Boer at the time, and I've had the argument that Feyenoord can't compete with the likes of Ajax & PSV and I'm not buying that at all.

All three clubs have to sell stars and rebuild, and what de Boer has done with bringing on the youth, making astute signings, he kept Ajax competitive and won them the league 4 times on the bounce. In that time, Feyenoord had a team with the likes of Janmaat, de Vrij, Martins-Indi, van Beek, Kongolo, Mathijsen, Clasie, Fer & Wijnaldum at a point, Guidetti on loan who was on fire and Pelle. There's plenty of quality there imo for them to compete!

And Koeman failed at both Benfica and Valencia previous to that. Don't get me wrong, he's done a brilliant job at Southampton and I personally wouldn't mind him, but whose to say that De Boer can't come over here and have similar or better success?

I think De Boer would do a good job, and with plenty more money at his disposal than he got at Ajax, I'm sure he'd be able to build a very competitive side at Everton.

Terry Underwood
206 Posted 10/05/2016 at 12:31:42
Don't get too excited, people... he almost certainly means the Everton in Chile.
Mick Davies
207 Posted 10/05/2016 at 19:33:18
I don't care if it's Frank de Boer or Frances de la Tour, as long as we replace the mentally unstable buffoon we have now: and with the latter, there is link to Everton with Rigsby. (Leonard Rossiter was an Evertonian, but not as outrageous a comedian as our chairman.)
Damian Wilde
208 Posted 10/05/2016 at 21:13:12
Good points, Aidy.

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