Agent: De Boer would 'love' to manage club like Everton

He's having a laugh at our expense! The right philosophy!

Defensive coach Jap Stam – best defender to play in Premier League, in my opinion.

Attacking coach .....Denis Bergkamp. No description required.

Just do it, BB.

Could attract players from all around the world. He's interested in us apparently. We should break the bank for him.

Roberto's commitment to a failed philosophy is a recipe for disaster and at a time when we have a squad with great potential and presumably stacks of cash.

Bobby Out, Frank In.

If Kenwright sticks with RM when we could have de Boer, Bergkamp and Stam I think I'll end up in a mental asylum.

I started watching Everton in the second division never seen anything like the passionless rubbish we have had to put up with these past two years and I didn't much care for the style of play in his first year.

I'd put him on gardeners leave till we sort things out, take the pressure of the players who want to play, the rest do the same we don't want or need them. We want a team that competes in EVERY game we play. If we win something well that's brilliant but firstly at least lets be able to compete and lets start talking about the football again

I guess the philosophy comes from the continuation of having a very good youth policy (like Ajax) that should get better with the investment that's currently happening at Finch farm. As well as building for the long term. I'm not sure managers like Mourinho or Pellegrini would give a stuff about this.

It's right there in front of you, it's available and it's what everybody wants........ but then you realise it's up to Bill to make it happen.

Step up, please, Mr Moshiri.

I want to see a team not necessarily great (although it would be a welcome bonus) but a team that just looks a tad arsed about personal pride in performances and will break sweat for the club badge.

I don't want any of this philosophy of total football play from the back with Cruyff-like turns and the "ooh look at our possession passing it about between four defenders".

Just give me a bloody team that tries hard!!

If Newcastle go down I'd quite like us to go for the Dutch lad they have in midfield. Can't remember his name from the top of my head. Just the kind of player we're missing.

I think De Boar and Koeman are best all round appointments out of the managers we've been linked with. Of course I'd love us to get Simeone but it's never going to happen.

Anyway, we can live in hope that Martinez will be gone after the Sunderland game so we can sign off the season with a win.

For me, despite the body language of Martinez, his criticism of players and admitting to no positives from yesterday's performance. Oh and randomly criticising Moyes who left ages ago. I'm certain Kenwright would stick with him. Seriously worried and angry.

Kenwright maybe a fool but surely even he must know that it would be suicide to stick with a Martinez now that de Boer has (apparently) made himself available.

Let Frank have the evening off after losing the league today then call him first thing tomorrow morning.

I believe it could be achievable but the board need to act.

Are they capable?

Would love FDB. What a back room team as well. DB played at a slightly higher level then Greame 'Briflington United' Jones. And JS a higher level player than Denis 'Trinidad & Tobago' Lawrence.

Please let it happen.

Wouldn't Bergkamp or Stam be in the running to get the Ajax job though?! I suspect one of them would probably take over from De Boar.

Quickly stamp on that damn worm and bury the centipede under a mountain of soil never to be seen again and finally go and sit in the shade until you come to your senses.

The mentality that currently exists in the club which allows for mediocrity season to season needs to be banished and the club needs to reach for the stars and aim to win every competition we enter. To do this we need a top manager and coaching team and not this bunch of B grade loosers we have in charge.

De Boer is the man to make this happen for all the long suffering supporters!

Thanks but no thanks, Frank. Martin O'Neill for me.

It just seems absurd that he might stay so we should just bite the bullet, pay RM off and move on.

Does anybody think there may be some contractual clause relating to year on year finishes?. I'm sure there must exist in football some equivalent of (eg sales) targets in business.

It may be possible that finishing lower year on year triggers a significantly lower contract termination pay off which would mean nothing can be made official until after the final match or until the outcome was established.Hence the silence.

Seriously, this is an outstanding opportunity if it is true. Dismiss the idiot and sign the farmer. The atmosphere on Saturday would be utterly transformed.

But what, in reality, are the chances?

And Bergkamp coaching our attackers would be great, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was offered the Ajax job after De Boer left.

De Boer and his boys would be a good choice but would Dennis Bergkamp travel with us to Europe if we get European football?

There's no doubt at all that he's lost the fans.

Unfortunately the only man who can pull the trigger still seems to think it'll all be alright on the night. Come on Billy Nero, stop fiddling, Rome's well and truly ablaze

This is a watershed moment for me and I won't have my kids raised on false dawns and tears and be regularly bummed by our neighbours.

I think we will have a Dutch master next season be it Koeman, De Boer or even Cocu. As long as its not LVG.

Sign him up NOW.

We have one real shot at this as we arent wealthy enough to keep bank rolling failing managers.

There is no doubt that without a statement saying he has gone, next Sunday against Norwich the atmosphere will be toxic irrespective of the result on Wednesday against Sunderland. Because if he is still in charge we will have to protest that much that BK will have to make a statement.

A manager like Koeman or De Boer would probably convince, fellow Dutch speaker, Lukaku to stay and I imagine JS would like to learn his trade under someone like Jaap Stam.

A manager who has won things in either the PL, Spain, Italy or Germany or even Holland. Please dig deep, and give us a big name that will make the football world sit up and take notice.

Put money at the new man's disposal, and let him get in his staff and players. This way we might have a chance of attracting some decent players to the "project".

If this or something similar doesn't happen it's clear Moshiri isn't running Everton, or likely to be in the near future.

I have no idea about his playing style, I hope he prefers 4-4-2.

The reality is Kenwright will screw this up as he always does by waiting too long to sack Martinez, De Boer will then be at Valencia.

Just get rid of Martinez already, where is the balls at the board level???

That made me laugh; something I've not done much of on this site recently.

If you manage Ajax Porto or Celtic you win the league. The special ones do that plus win the Champions League e.g. Mourinho and Van Gaal. Getting De Boer would be like getting the soon-to-be-fired Celtic manager.

Many fans have said how they wish we had the recruitment team of Southampton but Pochettino hadn't done much at Espanyol and Koeman's achievement's aren't as impressive as De Boer's.

I hope he's identified as the main target, it's wrapped up soon and there isn't an interview process for Kenwright to wedge his big head in and with those sausage fingers point at a name like Eddie Howe.

Mirralas too.

Thanks but no thanks, Frank. Martin O'Neill for me.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2010/aug/09/martin-oneill-aston-villa.

The owner Lerner never had the same aspiration as O'Neill.

Are you by any chance the Terry Riley who wrote 'In C' and 'Rainbow in Curved Air'?! I've been listening to 'In C' this afternoon. Great piece of music.

I agree, Koeman has also managed in Portugal and has had some success in the Prem so has to shade it over De Boar. At the same time, I'd also be happy with De Boar. He has the name, the back room staff and knows about winning as a player and manager. He also gets brownie points for wanting the job.

If certain players want to leave, let them piss off. Spend the money on those interested in playing for Everton, build a decent squad and get a good pre-season in.

I think Koeman would be a good shout.

It pains me to say it but the best result of the weekend was the Mancs winning at Norwich. Hopefully they make top 4 and keep LVG. Then all that's left is for Moshiri to put his money where Bill's mouth is and hire Mourinho.

Forget these up-and-coming 'philosophy' managers, we are having our fingers burned with one of these clowns at the moment. De Boer is just a slight upgrade on what we've got; nothing great.

For once, get it right and bring in an outright winner. Is Mourinho arrogant, controversial and obnoxious? Absolutely... good!! That's what we need: a winner. I'm fed up with all this nicely nicey garbage, getting us nowhere.

And as for this notion he can't win without money, firstly, he did well with Porto and secondly, we are supposed to have bloody money now!! Tell you what: if Man Utd don't appoint him, he would come!! I just don't think we have the bottle... C'mon, Mr Moshiri, surprise me!

The Scottish league is on par with League 1 at best, and Celtic have zero competition.

In the Dutch league, beyond Ajax you also have PSV and Feyenoord as teams with pedigree.

De Boer seems a very sensible choice, and Everton a decent option for him.

We ain't gonna get an A-class manager, nor is Koeman an option (why would he come to us? his next step is Arsenal, Utd, or something similar) so either we go for someone who could be a hit like de Boer or accept a mediocre manager but slight improvement (O'Neill).

Also think Rudi Garcia would be a decent shout.

The club have released figures on season ticket sales are as good as last year. If a new manager walks through reception at goodison. What a job he has. Currently, the team has no confidence, physically, and emotionally not there.

Everton are a rebuilding job. We have gone back eight years. This is not a quick fix. I don't think a manager who has not got a clue about the league let alone the club will help. O'Neil and Kean might help. Stubbs and sheedy have served apprenticeships.

Koeman is a great shout but it's going to take some sales pitch. Will he want champions league? All I know is the next manager needs to have experience in making big decisions. Players coming, going, and kicking some up the arse.

Like I said at the beginning. Martinez is still in post. Please don't be surprised if he is sitting in the dug out come august.

Cast your minds back 20 years when Chelsea were akin to the Crystal Palace of today. They got a new investor and their haggard old chairman hung on. Sound familiar? They went out and signed the likes of Gullit, Vialli and Zola from Serie A which at the time was the strongest league. They didn't say "well we're not Liverpool so we better aim lower and get Brian Talbott from WBA."

More recently, Man City did the same thing when they got Sven who at the time (if not since) was highly regarded in World football. All sorts of big names followed and these are the teams we now compare ourselves unfavorably to.

This crap of "we are just Everton" is an invention of Kenshite that was perpetuated by Moyes and is now an excuse for Martoinez. Go and tell the ghost of Dixie Dean or Howard Kendall or even big Nev that "We're just Everton" and we are perpetually inferior to Chelsea, Man City, Spurs or the next mediocre side to hit the big time. What a load of bollocks.

We got Kanchelskis when we'd just avoided relegation. We got Cottee when he was a record transfer fee and we had an ailing team of has-beens. What have we got in the Kenshite era? A bean pole with giant elbows, a fat Nigerian who lies about his age, a precocious cast off from Chelsea, a manager who just got relegated.... RELEGATED!!!

If Kenwright had been in charge when Kendall went to Bilbao, no doubt he'd have replaced him with Billy McNeil or Willie McFaul. This sack of crap acts like he's our benefactor and is doing us a favor while holding the club together but he's a con-man. A footballing Bernie Madoff.

I think he'd give managing Everton very serious thought.. Why?!? Hows about the 100m+ transfer war chest and the wages we pay our managers?! Moyes, and now Martinez are on the kind of wages a top 4 clubs pay their managers.

To me the A list are - Simeone, Mourinho, Guardiola, Ancelotti, Conte, and I hate to say it Klopp.

Then there's the A list (in name) which is the likes of LVG, Pellegrini, Wenger who have won lots of trophies but are slowly been ushered out by the first list.

I don't think Koeman, or even Pechettino are A list yet because they've not yet done it (both) at a major league and club. This is where the hierarchies of national leagues come in. Of course Dutch titles don't count as much winning a title in Italy, Germany or England.

Coming to us would, sorry to say, be a step down. In football people tend to try to make moves upwards. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't imagine it.

And that is not because we I view us as 'little old Everton', it is cause we are a team in the bottom half of the league, no trophies for 20 years, and while we may think having 100million to spend (and do we really?) is a lot, all premier league teams will have money to burn this summer.

Yes, going from Saints to Everton would be a sideways move for Koeman. I disagree that it's step down because they're higher in the league. We are a sleeping giant. Southampton aren't and have never had the history to be one in the first place. We can be massive again now we have the backing to do it.

Yes, I think you're right that all the other clubs will also have money. But, for once we will have the money to spend like a top 4 club & more than Saints, West Ham and Stoke. I think the possibilities of what could be done with that kind of money would be very alluring, not to mention the wages we're known to pay our managers.

But if Koeman doesn't want to come I'll be more than happy to have De Boar, Bergkamp and Stam.

If Frankie came, would that make the Derby games 'The Boer War'?!

And Kieran @ 135, Chelsea is in London, Everton is 'up north' where it's grim. And Abramovich is a billionaire criminal who needs to launder his wedge here to get residency. Moshiri hasn't got billions to throw away, so if he gets us De Boer/Bergkamp, I for one would think of it as the biggest managerial coup in this club's history.

Every appointment is a gamble, but these guys know what it's like to compete at the top, and they've served their apprenticeship battling against the massively funded PSV. But first, we need Chairman Bill Jong to eat humble pie... I'm not holding my breath for that.

That'll be him off to Valencia then. We'll be stuck with Bobby Bullshit or "Boyhood Blue", "It's always been my dream to manage Everton" Mark Hughes. With a beaming Billy sat next to him telling us all how bringing Sparky back to Goodison was his plan for years. "He had me at Hello!"

And the pain continues....

Our stadium is old and crippled, Southampton's is not. Our star players probably want out, and the rest of the squad is weak. Southampton's squad is deeper, younger and besides Mane, seem happy to remain.

As already stated, Koeman can go to Arsenal or someone of a similar stature. His reputation is high, a move to Everton, for him, will offer little in terms of reputation gain. If he keeps s'oton in the top 8 he has a chance at a 'top' job. Move to Everton and h needs top-4 to be considered a success, despite having greater foundations at his current club.

Stam has quality defenders in place he could work on.

Bergkamp, well hes got the short straw if Lukaku gets his dream move.

I would give Bergkamp the freedom of the City, if he could get us 20 goals out of Kone and Naise.

We are a whole different animal now with Moshiri. Even without him the money in the Prem these days... Have you been reading the papers or what?

If Ranieri can go to Leicester I think Frank de Boer can come to Everton - or have you forgotten your erm (Dr Evil finger) history?!

RM has got to go - the public have spoken (and spoken and spoken.) For me, not because of his tactics or style (which contains plans A - F if you watch the game properly) but because of the toxic nature of our home support, the general ill feeling around the club, the lethargy during games from lazy millionaire little boys... and the mismanagement of certain players (Mirallas, Distin... and now Besic.)

Martinez will be shown the door after the Sunderland game!! Hopefully its a door with a latch and a peep hole so he isn't let back in. If he is kept in charge as far as the Norwich game then Rod help him... it wont be pretty. Surely BK isn't that cruel. The plane that flies above Goodison saying ''time to go Roberto'' might be dropping something on his head. Am I right in thinking we still have a 100% win record with the plane?

We will see RM getting de Boot and being replaced by either de Boer or that Linguini fella from down the Lancs.

Then? Oh well that's easy. Stones and Lukaku will sign new contracts, we will sign Ever Banega, Benteke, Shawcross & Begovic. And win the league next year with our renewed optimism and virtually the same squad as this season!

What exactly separates him from Neil Lennon as a manager? I wouldn't want him either btw. Why do we complain about mediocrity but then actively seek it out in our choices of manager? I would rather Dyche, given his familiarity with the EPL and his winning the Championship title, be given the job than a manager just because he is Dutch and learned in a system that is a decreasing influence in European football.

In the case of Koeman and De Boer, they also have the option of staying on at their present clubs.

I genuinely hope our board are moving heaven and earth behind the scenes to land their man. Waiting until the summer may be too late.

That is, ofcourse, assuming Martinez is going!

An agonising few weeks lies ahead for me. Should the likes of Koeman and DeBoer tie themselves down or move elsewhere, my anxieties will increase.

I hope and pray that their silence on the matter means that they do not intend to back him for much longer, but why wait until the end of the season when after the semi-final would have been the easiest and obvious time to sack him.

I never though I would stop caring about the club and in truth I do still care about the club, but I don't care for the results or the players right now and if RM is still in charge come August (which I do fear) then I will find it very difficult to attend any game until he goes.

I just can't see it....

However, I believe that we need to get this appointment right for lots of reasons and my first choice would be Koeman, if we could get him.

John Cross on Talksport this morning says that Martinez is likely to be removed from his duties before the Sunderland game. Let's hope so eh!

Bill Kenwright loves Everton though so it's fine for him to make fuck-up after fuck-up.

The likes of Pellegrini, FDB, QSF, AVB, OFM, FSW, Koeman, MON, Dyche, Howe etc....have all been named and all been either lauded or shot down in flames. So, why don't we avoid any further ado and just give Roberto another season to see if he can turn things around? At least we can be united in our distaste for him.

Professionalism & pragmatism is just what we need - this team of three have got god knows how many medals and caps between them and have all played for the biggest clubs in Europe under some of the best managers, ever - cannot really ask for more than that.

Also they won't take any bollocks from BK and we'd likely get some decent youngsters from the Dutch league.

Would be made up if this happens.

Do it BK and all is forgiven (well a lot anyway).

There's gonna be lots of speculation when Martinez gets booted in the next two weeks and I hope we get someone in before the Euros.

Have gone off Pellegrini a bit with their team currently looking a bit of a mess. So given I think Koeman might pass my picks would be De Boer (or Cocu who has bested him twice now with an inferior team), Emery or AVB.

Obviously the deafening silence from the board really means that they actually are right on top of this debacle and that, behind the scenes, there is a massive plan and top drawer manager already in place waiting for the 1st June. This dude is primed, ready and cocked to sack 'em, threaten 'em and buy 'em with a couple of hundred mill and by the end of next month, we will all be on here clamouring for the start of next season with gusto and relish!!!

I have just read this back to myself and an now going for a lie down in a darkened room . Hope springs eternal I guess.

There's certainly no guarantee de Boer would bring his assistants with him IF he came.

Ultimately there's no job available yet, as we still have the deafening silence from Everton regarding RM.

Can you get odds on RM to be sacked, and if so what are they?

"This balance is necessary to please the Ajax faithful who are not fond of excessive horizontal passing with no intention to combine and penetrate on the flanks."

Don't give it a snowballs chance of happening though.

As previously mentioned the Arsenal look a most likely destination with the unhappy Gooners rightly baying for Wenger's blood. With club legend Bergkamp in the deal, plus the Gunners sparkly stadium and facilities it looks inevitable. Final nail will be hammered home with the choice between being in London or Liverpool. The Blues will come a very poor second in De Boer and his ace teams minds I would venture.

That said this appointment would be a day of joy for long suffering fans of Everton but alas unlikely to happen.

(a) Moshiri is quietly terrified, thinking 'Oh, God, How did I get myself into this horror film'?!

or:

(b) He is calmly putting together a plan [to quote Blackadder] 'so cunning that only a Fox who was Professor of Cunning at Oxford could think it up'

I'm praying it's (b)!!

Also on a practical note, it'll only take him a short flight from Liverpool airport to get home. So he can hit the coffee shops after the big wins.

He may of just lost the league to PSV yesterday but the job he's done at Ajax has been top class. He's the only manager in Eredivies history to of won 4 consecutive Dutch titles, and to do that with losing really good players over the years and keep on bringing through the talent is a big testament to him.

I just hope Mr. Moshiri starts to put his foot down in the board room and gets shut of Martinez and makes a move for de Boer. He really could be a great fit for us at this present time!

But IF we did get de Boer, don't be getting excited about the likes of Stam & Bergkamp joining him. Bergkamp doesn't want to leave Holland, he even knocked a coaching role at Arsenal back for that reason and Stam wants to go into management himself and will no doubt fancy the Ajax job so I'd be surprise if any of those 2 came along with de Boer, IF we go for him of course?!

Taking into consideration the fact that Everton FC has done little on or off the pitch in those lost decades, but can still arouse so much passion and has sold circa 25k of season tickets , despite having witnessed one of the poorest league seasons for a good while, shows signs that all is not lost.

If supporters continue to denigrate Everton FC and accept that the club is unable to compete with it's traditional and upcoming rivals then we shall continue to under perform and we will become a truly small club.

The coming six months to two years will probably define which it will be, a good club who actually reaches out and sees how far or big it can become or a 'has been' club which accepts its fate and joins the others such as Leeds, Sheffield W, Forest et al.

Of course it's not for us as supporters to make the correct decisions but if the current set-up doesn't aim for the stars, then Everton FC is doomed to failure for more than a generation and quite possibly for the remainder of its existence.

As supporters we can help the process by ensuring the owners are made aware that the last two decades should not and do not define what Everton FC is all about.

I keep hoping our new billionaire has a large boot to put under their collective arses, as you must surely have acumen to get to the position of his wealth, right?

Based on his demonstrated ability in the EPL, yes, but unlikely to come. I would rather have Emery, as I believe he is approachable.

My personal preference would be to go balls out for Simeone (Long shot I know but he might want to pitch his wits in the best league in the world) then Emre or Tuchel. Koeman would be a proven manager if we could get him.

When I talk to other fans. They talk of Everton as a old fashioned club. Sometimes it's hard to believe we are one of the oldest clubs to remain in the top flight. Our only hope is our new owner has a plan or we will be left behind.

Having said that, maybe it's fantasy, but the prospect of De Boer, Jap Staam and Denis Bergkamp as a unit, albeit,untested at Prem Level, is a mouth-watering prospect, which I would fancy more.

So really, either would be okay with me, but I am assuming that they would want to come anyway!

All three clubs have to sell stars and rebuild, and what de Boer has done with bringing on the youth, making astute signings, he kept Ajax competitive and won them the league 4 times on the bounce. In that time, Feyenoord had a team with the likes of Janmaat, de Vrij, Martins-Indi, van Beek, Kongolo, Mathijsen, Clasie, Fer & Wijnaldum at a point, Guidetti on loan who was on fire and Pelle. There's plenty of quality there imo for them to compete!

And Koeman failed at both Benfica and Valencia previous to that. Don't get me wrong, he's done a brilliant job at Southampton and I personally wouldn't mind him, but whose to say that De Boer can't come over here and have similar or better success?

I think De Boer would do a good job, and with plenty more money at his disposal than he got at Ajax, I'm sure he'd be able to build a very competitive side at Everton.