Lookman marks another debut with late goal

Ahh well, at least we kept hold of Schniderlin...

I must be clueless about football because to me he looks like a player. But Fat Sam started Bolasie ahead of him – makes no sense to me.

We desperately need major surgery throughout our club – otherwise, the young talent we have, which is currently providing the only slight glimmer of hope, will be gone sooner rather than later.

Not using this lad is one thing, but being bitter that he wanted to play and then not encouraging him is criminal.

Get Silva in the Summer and let Lookman play!

That comment from Allardyce suggests that reputation and cost of a player are probably more important than form and ability when it comes to picking a team.

He is a relic from a bygone era and we need to modernise this club before we get completely left behind.

Steve Walsh?

Thanks Steve for signing us a Nike advert exhibition player.

Hope FS is gone by the end of the season because it seems like, if Sam stays, Lookman will go. I know which of the two I prefer to see wearing any shirt with Everton on it this summer and I promise you it is not the person who wears the XXXL-sized shirt.

In a very brief post-match interview he says the important thing for him was to play.

He looked more lively in his Leipzig cameo than Bolasie has at any point since his return.

To think that some of our fans wanted Sam Allardyce....

Strange days have found us.
Strange days have tracked us down.

The mess this club is in, it's going to get a lot worse than it is better.

I'm not saying this kid is the answer but Allardyce is repeatedly saying that his players' performances have been unacceptable – yet he continues to pick the same players and ignore the others.

On the performance against Arsenal, it appears that there are other players who are being totally mismanaged by Allardyce before they even get on the pitch. Blaming them, as he has done, with his megaphone management, will exasperate the negative response to his management further.

Allardyce has now lost the dressing room. Blaming the players has made the situation irretrievable under Allardyce's management.

Multiple changes every game... Sam has proved to be a poor choice at £6M a year, whether he keeps us up is still very much in the balance, so like Martinez and Koeman he will be laughing all the way to the bank.

Incidentally will we still be liable to pay Koeman the full payment on his dismissal now he has become the Dutch manager?

For me, we should go for Eddie Howe at Bournemouth; Silva has proven to have his head turned too quickly when something better comes along.

And please bench Schneiderlin - if you love stats Sam you are missing a pretty obvious one - we lose when he plays.

The Independant article makes good reading. Are you listening Moshiri.

I was just going to post a link to that article – sums the situation up perfectly!!

There has to be issues with Lookman and I don't mean that those are Lookman's fault – just that there must be issues... surely any good manager would use it as an opportunity to build up his players' confidence and allow them the moment... unless he literally doesn't like the kid.

I wonder if his "stubbornness" has angered Allardyce so much! Shows we are living with another control freak at the helm! I didn't Iike Allardyce before he came and can't see myself wanting to keep looking at his face next season at all!

And the boy in Blue hits the winner and the £50 million Red misses a sitter! The only bright spot in a disastrous weekend.

For Christ's sake, let's get in the record books and sack yet another mercenary.

The rest should get together with the manager, backroom staff and Kenwright and fuck off. The last one should turn out the lights.

Scored a goal his first game for Everton, too. Against Pep's Man City at that. We'll see how it plays out.

But he's practically being deified in here. He's not that good yet, if ever.

Barkley, at the same age, was streets beyond this kid. Drenthe, party-hardy drunkard, was streets beyond young Lookman.

Sam gets it in the neck for his many failings; deservedly. Lookman's not playing isn't one of them.

He'll come good or he won't. I say he won't. A guy as small as him needs lightning quickness and pace. All while maintaining complete control of the ball. Ademola possesses none of those.

Fair pace and quickness? Not bad, not bad. Ball control? Haha.

Let's beat Allardyce with the many sticks he's handed us.

A kid, who I say will never make it the Premier League, going out on loan is no stick at all.

And ignore him coming on yesterday to get the ball, cut inside and past his man with a good touch and pace, setting himself up for a nice goal from outside the box.

He's just turned 20. Nah, no Premier League future. You're right. Now Bolasie, that's a Premier League talent right there!

It looks like Bolasie needs a big pre season. Big concern he's lost that pace and explosiveness. Wrong winger loaned out? Looks like to me...

He should have a chat with Niasse. He apparently didn't want to play in the Championship as it was a step down; if true he's a lot to learn in my opinion.

I hope this loan move goes well for him, but for me he has a lot to do before anyone can say he should be starting in the Premier League. He will have a new manager to impress at Everton come the start of the new season – of that I'm convinced.

So, one good move against the RS. You're projecting that across the entirety of a Prem career? Reminds me of the occasional calls for Browning based on the same thing.

Lookman is tiny. Smaller than Pienaar. Minus Steven's intelligence, foot quickness, and ball skill.

I hope his loan-out goes well for him and us. He'll prove me wrong more than you right.

So, I'll say again just for you. Allardyce has layed out an agenda of wrongs to slam himself with. Let's have at it. Lookman not playing doesn't make that list.

Also just for you. I say Ademola doesn't have the pace, quickness or skill to make anything of himself at Everton or any other Prem club.

He'd do well over here in MLS, though. At MY Red Bull.

Just not in the Prem. Not at Everton. He's not good enough.

Hopefully he'll come back next season, probably under a different manager, and play his way into the side with great performances both on the pitch and at Finch Farm. In the meantime, best of luck to him, but he's not the answer to our current woes.

Of course you will be correct in 90% of circumstances, but he is our player and whenever he has played he has got bums off seats; something many of our players don't tend to do often!

Bolasie when fully fit is a starter, as is Walcott (who seems to be hungry and at the moment seems a very shrewd signing) – but after those two our winger options are limited.

We have another young player in Vlasic, then it's Dominic Calvert-Lewin shoved out on the wing.

I would have just liked to have seen Lookman stay as an option, maybe starting towards the end of the season when Theo/Yannick need the first hour off.

Does he have the right attitude to make it? I don't know.

Does he have the right coaches to help his development? Hell no, too many dinosaurs at Everton, and the manager is one of them.

We have been a graveyard for talented players for years, don't see it changing anytime soon. But I for one will support him from a distance, rather than condemn him and write his career off.

How can Bolasie be considered to have been "miles ahead" of Lookman, at the same age, when he was a bit-part Plymouth player who had just returned from a loan spell at League 2 Barnet back then?

Even now, since signing for Everton (a move Lookman earned 8 years sooner, despite lagging behind Bolasie like a snail), he hasn't managed to show he is any more consistent or effective than his younger team-mate.

Personally, I would take Lookman every day of the week, irrespective of how much money their former clubs managed to fleece out of Steve Walsh.

I think that you couldn't be more wrong about Lookman. From his stature to his skills, I believe that you have underestimated the young man.

However, if you are right then I will welcome Lookman to FC Cincinnati, my MLS club (fingers crossed for the next slot).

The problem here and the reason Allardyce is “getting it in the neck”, is his handling of the situation.

I mean, a young player goes out on loan and scores a goal on his debut, how hard is it to say “That’s a good start for the lad, hopefully he continues and will benefit from playing and developing.”

But nooooo, Allardyce chooses to say “i’ve got 20 million Walcott and 30 million Bolasie, they’re more experienced and Lookman would have done nothing cos the team played crap.”

That is an appalling comment from an Everton manager about one our own players. It betrays arrogance, ego and a stubbornness beyond belief. I mean just imagine you are the player and you hear your manager coming out with something like that - are you going to be encouraged? No, no you’re not.

If you don’t think his intransigence and putting his own self interest ahead of the club deserves “getting it in the neck”, then I don’t know what you do think would warrant it!

As for Ade Lookman. I think he's an extremely skilful young player but from what I've seen of him, I think he is not yet ready to play most of the time in most of the matches we've got left. The choice that Alladyce has made is the best availabnle to him. It might not work out but I think that Bolasie can at least bring with him a lot of premiership experience. I mean tackling back, being aware of other players, doing what the manager and coaches have asked him to do.

I don't particularly rate Bolasie and think it was an expensive buy and we could have done much better with the money we paid out. Nevertheless, if it is a choice beteen Bolasie and Lookman, I can understand the management and coaching team, choosing Bolasie.

As we are not privvy to the reasons and discussions about who to name as the first team squad for the rest of the season, we are all guessing: and my guess is that Alladyce has gone for premiership experience.

My assessment as a supporter watching Lookman and his body language, I think he's very skilful but a bit on the same lines as Ross Barkley. He can often lose the ball by trying to take on more men than is either necessary or productive. He is very slow to chase back once/if he loses the balI. I also think he's got an attitude, from his body language I see but again, that's just my opinion.

From what I remember Sam saying, of course he could be lying, that Lookman forced the loan to the german club. Well, whether he did or not, I can understand the reasoning for keeping Bolasie as first choice for the rest of the season. Foegive me if I'm wrong but haven't we got Nikola Vlasic who can play on either wing, in the first team squad.

I've looked at our squad, well we all have (daft statement) but what I mean is that I think we have one, if not the, poorest teams in the division and we are still not safe from relegation. I think that what Alladyce is doing is playing his best (best of a bad bunch) team available to him, to try and give us the best chance of beating teams that we have a decent chance of beating. It's not pretty, it is about fighting for survival, until we are safe.

I think that is why Alladyce has chosen the players who have been there and done that (or not done it in some cases!)

He’d just given a previous press conference where he questioned lookman’s decision to move to Germany, don’t forget. Scoring on his debut made BS look a bit of a tit but instead of being the bigger man and responding diplomatically, he responded like a spiteful child.

In terms of Lookman, he’s promising and could have had more time of the bench as an impact sub this season but if he wants to go out on loan to get more game time, fair enough. Question is, with a manager making comments like that, would you want to come back?

It must be very frustrating when you see the same under performing players always picked ahead of you. I wouldn't be surprised if he forces a move on his return, hopefully we will have a new manager who will appreciate him.

Let's see how he fares the duration of his loan. It's staggering how this has happened. Good look to Mola.

Hopefully he'll get some more game time over the rest of the season, it would be a shame if he sat on the bench from now til May. He should have gone to Derby in my opinion, but we shall see.