Ancelotti accepts FA charge

Violating its code of conduct. Why? He only asked for an explanation of why the goal was ruled out. Can't you talk to the refs anymore?

FA don't want VAR questioned. Ancelotti knows this.

"Disappear"? — Cheeky twat!

Wish we'd taken a stand here... but understand this is probably best for Everton.

He should have gripped him if he did say "Disappear"...

We should've appealed and made a fuss but, once again, Everton Football Club bottle it. Only one way to fight bullies and that is to stand up to them...

I really hope Carlo can make a difference and get Everton back to winning trophies and upset the corrupt elite...

After reading the many posts about VAR, it seems nearly all fans are unhappy with how it's been implemented.

8 grand? Like he cares!!

Good result all round. FA can say they carried out a punishment, Carlo can take a bit of a hit on the cash but not lose too much face, still be in the dugout for Chelsea.

It's helped the bond between manager and fans.

Is his fine tax-deductible?!

Good result, but for me the officials during the Man Utd game and various other games this season, which I've mentioned on TW threads, have seen Everton lose points without justice and against the so-called laws of the game.

All the bull in the world from the refs' associations and FA won't wash in a few years time when many people will gib going the game.

It's losing all humanity and spontaneity... bring back Clive Thomas, all is forgotten (only joking) and Pat Partridge, but at least in them days, the refs had more backbone and guts to admit when they screwed up.

Sadly, the Premier League, is becoming an FA VAR circus.

I really felt the club and Carlo should have fought this even if they were always going to lose. It's a point of principle and a statement of intent that EFC are no longer the sacrificial lamb to be trotted out and done over to appease the press.

No-bottle blues...

Surprise, surprise... he should've gone down swinging on this one, lines in the sand, stand up to bullies, etc, etc.

Or, *word in ear: Do you really want to get on our shit list, glances over at Usmanov in 60s style half egg chair doing Blofeld impression with fluffy white cat.

We should answer: Do you really want to get on his shit list... but no, that will never happen.

If you didn't know better you might even think everyone in football is corrupt from their toenails to their cuticules.

Admitted censure and £8 grand is what the Premier League will claim as a victory for their non-existent "integrity" whilst Carlo Ancelotti for one second max will be stung by the punishment and conviction.

Everyone "in" football meanders on in easy wealth accumulation whilst the masses they consider beneath them, and "outside" football, continue to object to the clear and obvious shortcomings in our so-called "sport".

The Premier League won’t be sending him to Goodison for the next 9 months or so.

I’d pay 8 grand a ref to get the rub of the green on a few decisions.

Drew, I think Moss is the one who should be kept away from our games.

Pat Partridge? More like Alan Partridge!

VAR was always going to be an issue with the current "Laws of the game". I have felt all season these are too vague to be useful for the precision of VAR.

When talking about specific situations, regarding the offside rule as an example, the FA have to acknowledge the fact that a certain frame rate lag exists on the video used for measuring. I would suggest doing a technical study where the actual lag is measured and this would form the basis of the width of the lines drawn on the ground when marking the spot of the armpit of each player. If these two lines overlap, it is not clear and obvious. If they don't overlap it is clear and obvious.

Even the linesman has a lag in perception of this, but they learn to compensate for the lag through training and experience.

But what do we mere mortals know about these things, right... ;)

I wonder if Carlo has any 'Sicilian friends' that can make Jon Moss an 'offer he can't refuse' and make VAR disappear too?

I thought he may have questioned or fought the decision, but I suppose he deemed it more diplomatic to just accept, and return to the touchline for Sunday. I would imagine it'll be a case of 'gone but not forgotten'.

If it's true that this Referee said, "Disappear" to Mr Ancelotti then the League needs to employ more erudite and thoughtful people. His response should have been, "Can we discuss this in my rooms in a few minutes?"

Just more evidence of how poorly trained these "officials" are by poor administrators that they can't take the sting out of such simple situations.

Why would you fight a battle you cannot win? We have Carlo where we need him – in the dugout, not sitting in the stands, maybe for 3 games.

One point that I'm not certain of is, Klopp was fined for running on the pitch during the game, quite rightly; however, Carlo went on the pitch after the final whistle? Any thoughts?

And finally, refs in the past gave as good as they got and earned respect from the players. The ref last Sunday acted like a spoilt/frightened child who couldn't/can't cope with confrontation, so I'll show you a red card! pathetic.

Let's see if we, Everton FC, are treated any better for Carlo confronting the referee in a dignified manner. If we are treated in the same way, then the gesture wasn't worth it. We should have carried on with a very legitimate, worthy and constructive complaint.

RESPECT?

If the authorities expect managers and players etc to show 'respect' towards referees and officials, they have to be made aware that respect has to be a two-way street.

In my day, and especially during my time in the RAF, respect had to be earned. It wasn't a thing that was automatic, and a man who was respected by his peers and those below him in rank generally got a better response from those around him than someone who hadn't done much of anything to earn that respect.

My point is that Chris Kavanagh has done little in his life or during his time as a referee to earn anyone's undying respect. Just pulling on a referee's shirt doesn't, in my mind, give him the automatic right to receive that respect. In this game in particular, his overall performance was well short of being close to earning the respect of those around him.

By contrast, Carlo Ancelotti has been in the game almost all his life and, as a player and a manager, has earned the respect of virtually the entire football world.

That being the case, I would say the only disrespect that took place after the game, was Kavanagh's "disappear" comment to Ancelotti, as if he was talking to a 10-year-old at a Sunday junior football game.

There are many ways he could have asked Ancelotti to leave the field in a less confrontational manner. "Leave the pitch, now" would have been sufficient and his subsequent issue of a red card could perhaps have been justified if he was ignored. A one word "Disappear" was hardly a request to leave the field of play and was nothing more than a disrespectful and high-handed, mannerless display of his own inflated self-importance.

Until Kavanagh and referees like him afford players, managers and club officials with a greater level of respect, they can hardly complain when they are the subject of what they and the FA deem to be disrespect from those on the field of play and in the dugout.

Carlo Ancelotti is a great statesman of the managerial world.

Chris Kavanagh (and Jon Moss) are a pair of jumped-up nobodies who nobody will remember when they hang up their whistles (if they don't swallow and choke on them first).

As I said at the start of my post, respect is a two-way street. The men in black would do well to remember that.

Disappear? Arrogant twat. Don't the FA preach respect? It works both ways. Fine the twat £8k as well.

Jon Moss is the problem. Think back to Old Trafford:

Richarlison running into the penalty area put the ball past Smalling, was then kicked up in the air by the already booked Smalling: penalty straight red...

What does Moss do? Runs away as if the ball went out for a goal kick, the cheating bastard. I tells ye, he is the new Lee Mason.