Updated Everton's delayed Premier League fixture against Liverpool is scheduled to go ahead in 16 days' time via Sky free-to-view broadcast.
Originally planned for mid-March, the derby was postponed when the Premier League was suspended amid the coronavirus crisis but the two teams will now kick off at 7 pm on Sunday 21 June. The match will be broadcast live on Sky Pick channel but it has not yet been agreed where it will take place.
In the interim, Liverpool City Council's Safety Advisory Group will meet this coming Monday to confirm that the match will be played behind closed doors at Goodison and not at a neutral venue.
In a meeting of the Premier League clubs yesterday, it was agreed that teams can use five substitutes for the remainder of the season while an increase in the number of players on the bench from seven to nine was also passed by vote.
Premier League fixtures for the first few rounds of the restarted season are firming up. All 92 remaining games will be televised live on a World Cup-style staggered schedule every day and carried by Sky Sports, BT, Amazon and the BBC, starting with the two games that were originally moved because of the League Cup Final — Aston Villa v Sheffield United and Manchester City vs Arsenal, both on 17 June.
Everton's later matches are tentatively scheduled as follows:
Norwich City (A), 6:00 pm, 24 June (BBC)
Leicester City (H); 6:00 pm, 1 July (Sky Sports)
Scheduling beyond that has not been finalised and the initial three rounds of games are also subject to further change but the loose line-up for the Blues' outstanding games is as follows.
Tottenham Hotspur (A) — July 3-6
Southampton (H) — July 7-9
Wolves (A) — July 10-13
Aston Villa (H) — July 14-16
Sheffield United (A) — July 18-19
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2 Posted 04/06/2020 at 10:31:06
Regarding fans turning up at games, I see over 300 Porto fans travelled to Familicao for their away game in Portugal yesterday. Now I know the death rate in Portugal is low compared to the UK, but if anyone thinks it won't happen here is deluding themselves. The question then becomes: If this does happen, what happens next?
3 Posted 04/06/2020 at 11:23:31
4 Posted 04/06/2020 at 12:11:49
Let me first say..
Liverpool were/are the best team in the PL by a long way.
And had it not been for Covid thingy, they'd have almost definitely won the title (by a mile) months ago.
I also think Klopp is a terrific 'football man' and though he can occasionally irritate, I think he's generally a good egg and a brilliant motivator and manager.
(yes there is a 'but' coming).
But I think the season should have been declared void and personally won't be recognising whoever is declared the 'winners'.
'WELL YOU WOULD SAY THAT YOU BIASED BLUENOSE CU.." blah.
Not so and here's why.
I believe any contest (ANY!) has to finish with ALL the competitors playing with the same rules at the finish as they started with.
Once a team (or teams) is given an advantage of any sort after the start before the competition, it fails to be legitimate..imo
"YEAH WELL IT WILL BE THE SAME!."
Here's something we'd all agree on - when people refer to 'home advantage', the advantage bit of that is us, the crowd.
I mean if you get a home draw in the FA cup and think 'great - home advantage!' the advantage isn't 'great our players won't have to travel', it's 'great let's get them in front of our supporters, frighten the life out of them" etc.
And that's what Liverpool had in the derby at Anfield and what we won't have in the derby at Goodison.
That's an advantage they had and we'll be denied.
The rules are now different and to their advantage.
'Yeah but yooz are shite, we'd 'ave pissed it anyway, yuz just can't stand us winning."
People can Vicky Pollard all they like and call me biased etc blah, but it's not the case.
I'm 60 and know a good/great side when I see one and when all is fair, I'll say so.
But any advantage/change after the start makes the whole thing, for me, void.
5 Posted 04/06/2020 at 12:25:17
If one first team player gets the virus, then that sides games are going to have to be rearranged whilst their players isolate for 14 days.
Also, because the symptoms are not immediately noticeable, anyone thats been in close contact with the individual should isolate also. Is that not every player, staff and official that they've recently played against?
6 Posted 04/06/2020 at 12:37:46
It's one thing to acknowledge the Shite as the best team in the PL by a mile this season, but it's another thing entirely to finish a competition under different rules than it started. Or to have a break of three months between games, for that matter, and extra subs.
It's win on paper for them. Give them a paper trophy.
7 Posted 04/06/2020 at 12:57:29
8 Posted 04/06/2020 at 13:11:27
Under the circumstances there's nothing the league can do. Despite some outrage and emotion, the EPL has an economic reality dictating they have to finish the season.
Whether or not the rs are playing at an empty Goodison, or against what should be our "advantage game" due to the crowd and thereby favor us, it doesn't make the competition invalid.
Why you ask? Because Liverpool will not play in front of their fans for how many games?
All teams will end up playing a similar number of games (similar enough for me at any rate) where they will not realize their home-field advantage. So they are all suffering from that dynamic relatively the same amount. There's a difference between a landscape that necessitates change, and ensures the change is the same for all teams participating compared to a situation where only a few teams have implemented changes that favor them unfairly.
Saying that, I'm sure there's a retort and an angle I've not thought of to my point. If you're inclined, I'd be interested in your rebuttal to the above.
For me, it's simple. The season will finish, there's nothing illegitimate about it - it's just "different" but it's "different" for all the Clubs.
They are going to win it. They deserve to in an honest moment. CV19 and the necessary changes implemented to finish this season won't change that for me.
9 Posted 04/06/2020 at 13:25:59
VAR has been another corruption of a once noble sport.
10 Posted 04/06/2020 at 13:28:12
11 Posted 04/06/2020 at 13:40:39
That's a question I and others have asked on TW recently. Are the clubs and professional footballers exempt from the guidance and civic duties of track and trace?
I am still unsure of the answer. If they are, it is clearly unacceptable to the rest of society.
If it's legitimate but just different, shouldn't the prize be legitimate but different then also?
Michael @6 was being unfair giving them a paper trophy. (What if it rains on their open-top bus parade?) How about one of those white plastic ones of a footballer you could paint yourself?
Not sure you had them in the USA, Jamie, but trust me that would be spot on.
12 Posted 04/06/2020 at 13:59:24
The more the rules and circumstances alter, the cheaper their coronation becomes. Keep the changes coming I say!
13 Posted 04/06/2020 at 14:08:39
Klopp may be good at the footy motivation and such, but he is not a good egg, he just appears to be.
His face / body language in the Ball Boy World Cup jibe showed, he was a quarter a second from hauling off and lamping him good style.
14 Posted 04/06/2020 at 14:14:34
The authorities constantly talk about keeping the "integrity" of the Premier League. As Eugene has mentioned in his post, I see no "integrity" on what is happening so far apart from the main motivator... money.
In my opinion, whilst there are still hundreds of people dying per day and hundreds more getting the virus, the absolute last thing we should be discussing is starting any form of group/contact sport.
Regardless of what we hope for, there will be people congregating at games. Players and staff will contract the virus. Thousands more citizens will die, but hey, not to worry as long as Sky and BT are happy... oh yes, and the neighbours.
15 Posted 04/06/2020 at 14:16:21
17 Posted 04/06/2020 at 14:38:28
I'll argue the toss with the thousands of armchair Sky Red shites who have been self-isolating from Anfield for the last 30 years or more. I would love to agree with you, Eugene, but I can't honestly do so on this occasion. I know your style, Eugene, so I'm glad that won't bother you!!
18 Posted 04/06/2020 at 14:45:12
“Relatively” and “similar enough” aren't adequate to me in a sport where millimetres make a difference in a goal being given or disallowed.
Each club is at a different stage in its own fixture list. For example, if you've already played your relegation six-pointers away from home in front of a partisan crowd but now play your “home” games in front of no-one, then you're at a disadvantage.
So yes, money dictates it must finish as best it can but whoever is relegated, whoever just misses out on Europe, will have legitimate cause to complain the season wasn't fair.
19 Posted 04/06/2020 at 15:03:51
Tottenham have borrowed £175million from the Bank of England to ease the pressure on the clubs finances brought on by the coronavirus crisis, according to reports. The Covid-19 pandemic has affected clubs financially up and down the football pyramid with no income from matchday revenue due to games being cancelled and put behind closed doors for the foreseeable future. According to The Athletic, Spurs have taken advantage of the government's Covid Corporate Financing Facility. It provides them with an 'unsecured loan repayable in full at a rate of 0.5 per cent interest'.
The Covid-19 pandemic has affected clubs financially up and down the football pyramid with no income from matchday revenue due to games being cancelled and put behind closed doors for the foreseeable future.
According to The Athletic, Spurs have taken advantage of the government's Covid Corporate Financing Facility. It provides them with an 'unsecured loan repayable in full at a rate of 0.5 per cent interest'.
Tottenham declared a £69million profit last year, and their revenue of more than £460m makes them the eighth largest club in the world, according to Deloitte's rankings. The club's owner, Joe Lewis, is reported to be worth £4.3billion.
On a Spurs related webpage:
THS has met the criteria set by the Bank of England for the CCFF and has issued £175m of Commercial Paper through this facility. The CCFF is designed to provide short-term loans at commercial rates during the pandemic and is available to companies that have a strong investment grade rating and make a material contribution to the British economy. The global pandemic has created unprecedented economic and social challenges and the entertainment sector has been particularly affected. We are yet to see the full extent and duration of the economic impact. As of today, it is unclear when there will be a return to spectator-attended live events. Due to the significance of income from matchday, conferencing and third party live events such as concerts and other sports, our estimated revenue loss, including broadcast rebates, may exceed £200m for the period to June, 2021. The facility, which will not be used for player acquisitions, has been arranged to ensure we have financial flexibility and additional working capital during these challenging times. The Club has opened a multi-use venue designed to deliver diversified revenue streams and created jobs, homes and schools as part of the regeneration of our neighbourhood. We are ever-conscious of the responsibility we bear to ensure the future stability of our Club for all stakeholders and, in doing so, support our communities and our continued investment in the area.
The CCFF is designed to provide short-term loans at commercial rates during the pandemic and is available to companies that have a strong investment grade rating and make a material contribution to the British economy.
The global pandemic has created unprecedented economic and social challenges and the entertainment sector has been particularly affected. We are yet to see the full extent and duration of the economic impact. As of today, it is unclear when there will be a return to spectator-attended live events.
Due to the significance of income from matchday, conferencing and third party live events such as concerts and other sports, our estimated revenue loss, including broadcast rebates, may exceed £200m for the period to June, 2021.
The facility, which will not be used for player acquisitions, has been arranged to ensure we have financial flexibility and additional working capital during these challenging times. The Club has opened a multi-use venue designed to deliver diversified revenue streams and created jobs, homes and schools as part of the regeneration of our neighbourhood. We are ever-conscious of the responsibility we bear to ensure the future stability of our Club for all stakeholders and, in doing so, support our communities and our continued investment in the area.
Form an orderly queue Premier League executives we'll award the loans based on extremely stringent criteria!
20 Posted 04/06/2020 at 15:25:56
Unsecured loan at 0.5% interest from the BoE no less.
Let's get in early and get that new stadium financed.
22 Posted 04/06/2020 at 16:06:23
23 Posted 04/06/2020 at 16:40:07
24 Posted 04/06/2020 at 16:52:05
Good job Farhad has not signed any contracts yet, I doubt he will be able to better that deal from the BoE.
Fire up the JCBs, the stadium is on its way.
That's unless the Governor is a Spurs fan and we are not considered worthy.
25 Posted 04/06/2020 at 17:26:21
Interesting the league were planning for a potential termination of the season today despite the restart. Now, that could mean a number of things, but 2 spring to mind:
1. Genuine contingency planning in the event of a second spike.
2. They still know this might have to be called off but want to claw back as much TV revenue as they can in the interim.
I'll be honest, I'm no expert on football finances, or how / when they get paid and there will be many more on here that are, so my second point is speculative guess.
26 Posted 04/06/2020 at 17:59:27
Jamie - #8
As I stated, my choice would have been to simply make the whole thing void which I feel would have been a legitimate response given a set of circumstances/event that very very few could have foreseen and that has killed tens of thousands (nb: and continues to) all over the world.
'That wouldn't be fair on Liverpool'?
Fine, end the season and simply give them the trophy (see Scottish Premier League). If they want to call themselves champions, fine.
"Yeah but they want to win it properly."
Empty grounds means 'properly' simply isn't going to happen.
You say - 'All teams will end up playing a similar number of games (similar enough for me at any rate) where they will not realize their home-field advantage. So they are all suffering from that dynamic relatively the same amount.'
From a debating view it's a decent point, but (again purely for the purpose of debate) 'relatively the same amount' isn't good enough (imo).
From an integrity perspective (?), in a league where the tiniest advantage could mean tens of millions lost/won/relegation etc, not good enough.
But a bigger point..
To be honest, 99% of all talk of restarting football asap has done my head in.
Very early on, I heard a doctor say "Remember this virus doesn't move around, WE move it around."
And in recent weeks I've heard people (including our staggeringly useless and untrustworthy government) talk of the virus as one might a temperamental teen one has to tread carefully around but who will hopefully get bored and go to his/her room and leave us alone.
This virus doesn't give a shite if we're bored or want a barbecue or a bronzy or to lie on the grass in Caldies and do... whatever the fuck they do with them silver soda-syphon gas things.
And it deffo doesn't give a shite if (as according to every gobshite on the BBC) the return of football will 'give everyone a boost' (everyone = our ratings).
I hope by some fluke this awful poxy virus vanishes or someone discovers that if you have 6 pints of Guinness, followed by a sausage dinner, it kills the virus for good.
But none of that is likely and so it's up to us (all) to not move the virus around.
I think generally we're failing at that and think restarting football right now will mean failing even more.
I hope I've never been more wrong but it's worth reminding ourselves (regularly) that the virus is just as much of a killer, just as lethal and dangerous today as it was on the first day of lockdown.
It doesn't give a fuck if we're bored or for that matter, who 'wins' the league.
Up the Toffees!
27 Posted 04/06/2020 at 18:27:16
Once they have that title, do you really think they will put their star players at risk? That is why restarting gives only one team an advantage. Even cancelling the league after a week or so will not matter to them, it will all be over by then.
They even have the luxury of 5 subs, for those few games. So I'm with you, Eugene, it is not a case of being bitter, just the fact all the other teams will have to finish the season, whether for euro spots or relegation, fielding full-strength teams, while a certain team can take a back seat and not risk having to field a full-strength team.
28 Posted 04/06/2020 at 19:26:32
I was thinking last night of all the changes that you, I, and others of our generation have seen in our time:
The introduction and removal of the obstruction offence, introduced in 1948, I don't know when it was abandoned.
The apparent removal of the indirect free-kick.
The many changes to the offside law.
Goalkeepers being allowed to move before a penalty kick is taken.
The ball being allowed to be passed backward from the kick-off>
Goals being allowed direct from the kick-off.
The abolition of extra time and replays in some fixtures.
The penalty shoot-out.
The introduction of 1 substitute in the event of injury, often abused, followed by 2 subs for injury or tactical reasons.
The present 3 from 5, for injury or tactical reasons.
And now the farcical idea of 5 subs in three operations.
The VAR and goal-line technology.
The referee's 'shaving cream' brought out at free-kicks.
The latter two the only ones, in my opinion, that have improved the game. I may have overlooked some other alterations.
We can hark back to the days when the League programme was completed later than the FA Cup Final, and fixtures were staged on Christmas Day, Boxing Day, Good Friday, and Easter Monday.
The pre floodlight days of the 3:15 pm kick off which gradually moved back to as early as 2:00 pm in the winter months.
The days when the practise match, Blues [Probables] versus Whites [Possibles] was the only pre-season fixture.
"It's football, Dave, but not as we knew it."
29 Posted 04/06/2020 at 19:45:56
I find it rather strange that, after today's meeting, although they have agreed our game will take place at 7:00 pm on Sunday 21st, they can't say where it will be played. So why wasn't this decided today? They can tell us when and it will be on Sky Sports but not where.
As for finishing the season because of integrity, there is no integrity left. Let's not forget now or in the future that Liverpool and Spurs were 2 of the first clubs to try and get us as taxpayers to pay their staff 80% of their wages. Liverpool – who boasted that they had made £200 million profit in the last 2 seasons – couldn't pay their minimum wage employees without help from the taxpayer. Forget they rescinded it when even their own fans turned against them, that was their moral compass.
As for the integrity of finishing the season, well, I can't think of another season with 9 or 10 games left where they change the rules. No VAR, neutral venues, 5 subs allowed. This is all about money, nothing else and certainly not integrity.
I see that some of the teams outside the Premier League have taken pay cuts to help their clubs out, so why haven't the richest set of players offered to do the same? I have seen a lot of Premier League players tweeting in the last couple of days how they have put signed shirts up for auction, as if by putting their signature on a shirt that probably the club paid for is a real big thing.
As I have asked before, why has nobody said how much these players have raised for the NHS? This scheme was set up weeks ago yet we've not heard anything about how much the fund has accrued. I would have thought seeing a man nearing 100 walking in his back garden could give daily updates of how much he had raised, surely these players must have someone overlooking the fund could give us an idea how much has been raised? INTEGRITY don't make me laugh.
Finally, I saw a graph the other day showing what percentage of money earned from clubs goes to pay player wages. Sadly Everton came out on top at 85% of income is used to pay wages, totally unsustainable. I can't think of another industry where the workers take home 85% of a company's revenue.
30 Posted 04/06/2020 at 19:53:56
Too much, I know, to have expected some respectful sacrifice by the Premier League, The Championship, their teams and, above all, the greedy media – but it would have been the proper response.
32 Posted 04/06/2020 at 21:02:28
Friday, 19 June:
Norwich vs Southampton, 6:00 pm (Sky Sports)
Tottenham vs Manchester Utd, 8:00 pm (Sky Sports)
Saturday, 20 June:
Watford vs Leicester, 12:30 pm (BT Sport)
Brighton vs Arsenal, 3:00 pm (BT Sport)
West Ham vs Wolves, 5:30 pm (Sky Sports)
Bournemouth vs Crystal Palace, 7:45pm (BBC)
Sunday, 21 June:
Newcastle v Sheffield Utd, 2:00 pm (Sky Sports)
Aston Villa v Chelsea, 4:30 pm (Sky Sports)
Everton vs Liverpool, 7:00 pm (Sky Sports)
Monday, 22 June:
Man City vs Burnley, 8:00 pm (Sky Sports)
Please, for my sanity and as a mark of respect to those whose have died, can we stifle any talk of Liverpool outside of the derby on Sunday? This is an Everton website.
33 Posted 04/06/2020 at 21:15:17
34 Posted 04/06/2020 at 21:39:18
The most recent is when Liverpool win the European Cup in 2005 and there was no provision for the winners to enter the following season. Guess what: they changed the rules and brought a referee out of retirement to ensure that Everton wouldn't reach the Group stages!
35 Posted 04/06/2020 at 21:51:52
John, you forgot about the technology changes... remember the amazement when they introduced white balls near the end of games in the winter months and orange balls when teams played on snow?
Not forgetting the half-time scoreboard becoming obsolete when transistor radios came out, fella's with one of them would be surrounded by about 50 fans at reserve team games waiting for him to tell you how the first team were getting on. He was king of the manor for an hour on those days; now, everything is relayed seconds after it has happened.
Going to the away games by steam trains and the lights failing on the train when it slowed down on the way home. Talking to the players on buses and trains before and after the game, now they've got bodyguards to stop you breathing on them.
I'll have to stop, John, or I'll start swearing and I don't want to upset you. See you soon hopefully, John.
36 Posted 04/06/2020 at 22:10:18
37 Posted 04/06/2020 at 22:25:45
38 Posted 04/06/2020 at 22:31:08
And I've a cousin (my dad's brother's lad) called Peter who now lives in Canada (who I remember as a miserable twat who'd be about 66 I think).
39 Posted 04/06/2020 at 22:50:40
40 Posted 04/06/2020 at 23:48:25
The virus and bunch of shambolic pricks called the government have joined force in denying me one the most important few seconds of my life, that of a Dad hugging his daughter after being told she is expecting her first child, a private moment for me to treasure for the rest of my life, simply gone because of 'social distance'.
And yet, the Premier League twats and government have agreed the following, that at least 22 semi-strangers, and more, are allowed to meet face-to-face, talk and hug, spit on each other whilst exhaling in a 'tackle', plus a shit-load more, and this is acceptable????
Why is football being allowed to resume when our normal lives are not, when people are falling ill and dying daily???
This is a shameful decision, fueled by both greed and ignorance. The season is irrelevant and void, it is also a total and utter fucking insult to our NHS, emergency services, care workers and everyone that has given their time and indeed their lives.
Shame on the Premier League and government for this shitshow, twats.
Also, fuck the red shite, I couldn't give a toss about their 'situation'... twats.
41 Posted 05/06/2020 at 00:25:01
A couple of other things that I forgot: the ride on the back of a coal lorry to the game, and for those who rode to the match on bikes the people who made a couple of bob, by minding the bikes in the back yard.
I did say that I may have overlooked some alterations, I think it's an age thing, but you'll find that out in August.
42 Posted 05/06/2020 at 02:43:05
Another point is, yes – the RS would likely have won the league. However, they were on their first bad run of results and this stoppage could not have come at a better time for them. Agree with you about Cliperty, too. He can be a prick at times but he knows how to put a winning team together.
43 Posted 05/06/2020 at 04:05:24
7pm on a Sunday night and they expect people to comply with social distancing after drinking all day.
This has been set up by the media who want the RS to win the league at Goodison Park and the cameras will pick up the wild celebrations.
Just watch Man City get some dodgy decisions against them and the Devil's spawn against us too.
To quote that little rs Keegan, "I would just love it if we beat them."
44 Posted 05/06/2020 at 04:57:48
Whatever the final placements, some teams will feel they were shafted. There are bound to be endless complaints, possible lawsuits along with contract problems and some teams going broke. There is nothing to look forward to. Covid-19 is a worldwide pandemic. World Wars I and II resulted in seasons being cancelled for many years. Why this one should need to be completed is beyond common sense.
Personally, I can only look forward to next season when we can all get to see the 27 new players we will have signed. That is according to gossip.
45 Posted 05/06/2020 at 06:04:40
A very good sensible post.
46 Posted 05/06/2020 at 06:21:31
47 Posted 05/06/2020 at 07:06:06
And you also forgot the change from the good old casey to these modern technology balloons. And let's not get started on the footwear, or the pitches!
48 Posted 05/06/2020 at 07:16:44
Dortmund had a shocking first half of the season and went into the winter break in 17th place, and very much flirting with relegation. A strong "Ruckenrunde" after the break saw them claw back into 7th, but this was a team who's previous 3 seasons read: Champions, Runners Up, Runners Up.
I'm with you. I suspect he's what we see now when it's going well, but we have seen small glimpses of his sulky outbursts when they're not. I'm not suggesting that it isn't normal winner mentality to hate losing, but let's be honest, it's never going to be as good as they've had it the past 2 seasons, so it will be interesting to observe when it's not.
49 Posted 05/06/2020 at 08:25:22
50 Posted 05/06/2020 at 08:59:04
51 Posted 05/06/2020 at 09:02:15
52 Posted 05/06/2020 at 09:09:39
You've started my day with me laughing out loud with talking about your cousin “Who I remember as a miserable twat” – brilliant that, Eugene. I've heard he's coming home to visit you once this virus clears up!!!
53 Posted 05/06/2020 at 09:17:19
And as for the Anfield record, it's just a joke for supporters of other clubs. I work near Manchester and the piss taking is endless.
54 Posted 05/06/2020 at 09:19:05
I just remembered a story about when the white balls were first introduced...
Everton were playing Man City at Maine Road and getting hammered. Ken Barnes, the City right half, had scored THREE penalties!
The referee wasn't up to much... Yes, WE used to get them even long ago.
The light was getting darker and after one of City's goals Don Donavon said to the ref, “Referee, you need to bring the white ball on.”
Dave Hickson close by said, “It's not a white ball he needs, it's a fucking white stick!”
Davie was promptly sent off.
55 Posted 05/06/2020 at 09:28:04
56 Posted 05/06/2020 at 10:00:31
My dad and his brother would go for a pint, my mam and auntie would talk the hind legs off donkeys (while drinking gallons of tea and smoking Embassy No 6) and me, my brother and sisters would watch Dr Who, The Monkees etc with our cousins (cakes, sweets – it was boss).
Then about 6:30 pm our Peter would arrive home from work, ALWAYS with a narked puss on him.
He was a mechanic and would come home from work (at the age of about 17) covered in grease with an attitude that suggested he'd spent the day splitting the atom instead of fiddling under the bonnet of a Vauxhall fucking Viva.
He'd demand (and get!) his tea, switch over the telly and generally grunt and tut and bollock us kids and behave like a twat.
Eventually (and to our relief) he'd get a swill, put on a pair of loons and a velvet Jacket and go... wherever 17-year-old mechanics went on Saturday evenings in the late 1960s.
So, regarding getting a post-lockdown visit from him to sort me out, well he had his chance in 1968, 69, 70 (now I'd fucking paste the big miserable grock).
By the way, he had NO interest in football – how odd was THAT in 1960s Liverpool?
57 Posted 05/06/2020 at 10:03:47
Take Rugby Union: this morning I heard a guy from that sport talking on the radio about how the game needs speeding-up. Eddie Jones has said it is in danger of becoming like American Football with all of the stoppages at scrums etc.
In a typical game lasting 80 mins, the players are often out on the pitch for 110 mins, with injuries, lineouts pens etc, yet the actual time spent running and passing can be as little as 35 mins. This has enabled huge men to play the game. The large amount of subs as enabled these giants to take part as they rarely need to run for long.
Football is now including 5 subs. Used effectively, this could actually have the opposite effect on the injury situation. The chance to keep the match going at a very high tempo can be achieved by swapping tired pacey wingers with more of the same, leaving defenders knackered, more likely to overstretch or pull a hammy etc. Before we know it, 5 subs will become the norm. Impact players will have more of a role, just like Eddie's "Finishers" in Rugby.
There will be unseen consequences of these rule changes and of course there are bound to be implications for everyone as we all know that some mindless numbskulls will definitely go to grounds, even to stand outside.
Klopp recently mentioned how thoughtful his Liverpool fans are. They wouldn't cause any problems. I would hazard a guess that our neighbours are the most likely lot to flout the rules and turn-up at Goodison in large numbers with their customary flares and fireworks.
58 Posted 05/06/2020 at 10:12:02
I remembered a couple more miserable bastards, they didn't realise how funny they were, and you just waited for them to grumble and moan and get it out of their system.
Two or three I knew could go on for fuckin' hours with never a kind word for anyone. It takes all sorts, Eugene, thanks again for starting me off with a big laugh.
59 Posted 05/06/2020 at 12:03:56
Everton have to refuse to continue. I'm forever reading on here how noble our club is. Well let them do the right thing, stand up for themselves and us for once and refuse to participate in this charade that football and footballers are more important than health and lives in this country.
For God's sake, cancer clinics haven't even been allowed to open yet.
Don't play, tell the selfish, money-grubbing parasites at Sky and the Premier League that we are not concerned in their tawdry, bend-over-backwards-for-Liverpool disgrace.
60 Posted 05/06/2020 at 12:35:48
Friday 19 June, Norwich vs Southampton, 6pm kick-off, Sky Sports/Pick
Saturday 20 June, Bournemouth vs Crystal Palace, 7:45pm, BBC
Sunday 21 June, Newcastle vs Sheffield United, 2pm, Sky Sports/Pick
Sunday 21 June, Everton vs Liverpool, 7pm, Sky Sports/Pick
Wednesday 24 June, Manchester United vs Sheffield United, 6pm, Sky Sports/Pick
Wednesday 24 June, Norwich vs Everton, 6pm, BBC
Thursday 25 June, Burnley vs Watford, 6pm, Sky Sports/Pick
Sunday 28 June, Watford vs Southampton, 4:30pm, Sky Sports/Pick
Monday 29 June, Crystal Palace vs Burnley, 8pm, Amazon Prime Video
Tuesday 30 June, Brighton vs Manchester United, 8:15pm, Sky Sports/Pick
Wednesday 1 July, Bournemouth vs Newcastle, 6pm, Sky Sports/Pick
61 Posted 05/06/2020 at 12:49:47
62 Posted 05/06/2020 at 13:05:43
63 Posted 05/06/2020 at 13:11:11
The season is restarting, and Everton will be a part of that. The chances of them refusing to play are zero. It's no dishonour to those who have sadly died, it has nothing to do with a host of political decisions taken (like closing cancer clinics) to 'save the NHS'... but at what cost?
Making it all about Liverpool is only making it worse than it needs to be. It's not all about them – otherwise, answer me this: Why is The Championship restarting as well? It's because they are all in business as football clubs and it goes without saying that playing eachother is central to their very existence.
So please, let's be big boys now, stop this childish incessant belliaching, and accept the inevitable. The Premier League is returning, the games will be competitive, the points will count towards the final league placings and – no matter what bar a rather large NEO – the Premier League will finish and there will be a winner.
64 Posted 05/06/2020 at 13:40:48
65 Posted 05/06/2020 at 13:53:38
They will get the trophy in an empty stadium applauded by one man and his dog and we can always use Ruane's logic to wind them up that they didn't win it properly. All that aside, they are a very good team, deserve the title and Klopp is a superb manager. He is also, in my opinion only, a decent bloke. Nothing wrong with him being a poor loser - we've had good losers for 35 years.
66 Posted 05/06/2020 at 14:21:17
But when they do this will still crack me up every time I see it
67 Posted 05/06/2020 at 14:44:56
68 Posted 05/06/2020 at 15:47:42
69 Posted 05/06/2020 at 15:49:47
70 Posted 05/06/2020 at 15:51:35
As it it feels that 8th-9th is about the best we can hope for. I'm hoping to see some more of Gordon and Kean. Maybe even some of Gibson, Onyango and Simms.
It's been too long since the end to a season felt genuinely exciting for Everton fans.
71 Posted 05/06/2020 at 15:58:49
73 Posted 05/06/2020 at 17:29:17
Villa and West Ham still have some corporate clout I guess, even though they'll never be in the big society.
Shame we don't have enough points to skive off the next 9 fixtures (a la Boro) and still survive. Would rather lose 27 points, if inconsequential, than kick another ball in this ruin of a season.
74 Posted 05/06/2020 at 17:36:28
75 Posted 05/06/2020 at 19:08:33
76 Posted 05/06/2020 at 19:33:56
77 Posted 05/06/2020 at 19:35:02
there might be an issue with the derby being played at home.
I understand the R is over 1 in the North West and I think that may trigger neutral venue well away.
Just as an aside and obviously of no interest to the football authorities or media friends. ONLY another 350 odd dead today, totally immaterial of course.
78 Posted 05/06/2020 at 19:47:32
79 Posted 05/06/2020 at 22:16:05
80 Posted 05/06/2020 at 23:14:34
Not we have a completely different set of rules.
This season will always have an asterisk. But I don't think you can deny Liverpool have been the best team. If the league gets finished then they'll deserve the title. They've dealt with the same crap everyone else has.
If it doesn't finish, I think it should be void.
81 Posted 05/06/2020 at 00:19:04
I agree with the majority of your post, however, I'm not sure that our neighbours have necessarily had the same crap to deal with as the rest of the Premier League. Impetus and momentum are crucial to any team wanting to win things and the various VAR decisions that went their way, both in their own matches and those of their rivals, throughout the early part of the season helped them considerably.
Add to that, the officals constantly treating their players like protected species and it's little wonder that they built up an almost unassailable lead, but we'll never know if they would have blown up during the run-in, because they have had the time to refresh and regroup since they lost a couple of games in short order.
I should add that I have no idea if they will be worthy champions or not as I haven't seen them play since they last appeared at Goodison in March 2019 when they looked pretty ordinary to me, but perhaps that was just an off day for them. It looks as if it will be some time before I see them play again, by which time some other club may be champions.
If they win it, fine – but I'm not going out of my way to offer them any praise because their fans believe that we are not worthy of them, and they have always believed that, even when we had a team that could win stuff.
82 Posted 06/06/2020 at 02:15:00
Normally I would be buzzing for the derby, once the re-arranged date had been announced, I would have checked my shifts at work, found that I am off and on lates on the Monday... Yet, with it being behind closed doors in a season that should have been voided, I just can't be arsed with it anymore.
It's like running a marathon but, after 20 miles, it gets stopped... then, 12 weeks later, everyone comes back, but the course has been changed. Instead of the last six miles being uphill, they are now downhill and some of the runners can take a shortcut as well. A total shambles.
83 Posted 06/06/2020 at 09:17:47
The government, “Do as I say, not as I do” mantra is stinking the country out.
84 Posted 06/06/2020 at 10:01:41
85 Posted 06/06/2020 at 22:53:39
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