Bill Kenwright – Everton Legend

Kevin Prytherch 11/09/2020 164comments  |  Jump to last
Many years ago, whilst doing my History A-Levels, I got sick of being told there was no right or wrong answer. So, upon being presented with a mock question, I decided to argue against popular historical opinion. Later that week, my history teacher kept me behind; he said, “Kev, that is one of the best essays I have ever read at A-Level – but it’s not in the marking scheme.” I said, “Does that mean there is a wrong answer then?” He said “There’s no wrong answer, as long as you argue with popular opinion.”

Which brings me to Bill Kenwright: arguably the modern-day saviour of Everton Football Club. The one constant who has ensured that we, as a club without vast resources, has maintained a healthy, consistent challenge in the toughest league in the world for the last 20 years.

Although he was elected to the board in 1989, Kenwright's first bid for power came in 1994. However, as a man who unselfishly only wanted what was best for Everton, he stood aside and let a man with considerably deeper pockets, Peter Johnson, take control of the club. The first real example of Bill doing what was best for the club and putting the good of the club before any personal desire for power that he might have harboured.

It was not until 1999 that Bill Kenwright bailed Peter Johnson out. Johnson’s hamper business was failing and he could not sustain his investment. Bill reportedly put everything he had on the line – some say he mortgaged his house – to find the money to rescue his beloved Blues. Unselfish to the core… how many of us have even considered mortgaging our own house for the Blues?

Since 1999, Bill Kenwright has overseen the second most consistent period in Everton's history. The record of consecutive 8th-place finishes or better between 2006 and 2014 has only ever been bettered once. This is against teams and owners with far superior wealth and resources. This achievement, without the Littlewoods money behind us, is arguably the greatest achievement of consistency in the history of the club. The man behind it – Bill Kenwright.

The man has been a legend in the transfer market. Time and time again, we sold players for well above their market value, £30M was unheard of for a teenager in England, £27M for Lescott, £15M for Rodwell etc. Bill's negotiating tactics were to be marvelled at.

He confused Alex Ferguson beyond belief when he phoned him up crying at the Rooney sale, then fleeced United again years later with Fellaini. He had little money to spend, but still backed his managers to the hilt, finding every bit of money he could to ensure Everton finished as high up the table as possible. Whether that be advice from some of the best British businessmen, re-mortgaging property or seeking investment from obscure lenders, he always provided as much money as he could.

Bill also resisted the temptation to sell Everton to unsuitable parties. Imagine if we’d have been sold to Randy Lerner, Gillet and Hicks, Risdale, Ellis Short etc. We’d have been relegated by now. Not Bill; always with the club at heart, he waited patiently and, in the face of some horrific abuse, until he found the right owner.

Bill's determination to do the best by our club saved us from potential relegation, administration, or utter freefall.

Instead we had consistency, accounts that every last penny was squeezed from – but not a penny more, and a club that was many a supporter's second team and wholeheartedly respected by every other club bar the top 5 or 6 teams in the entire Football League due to our consistency and commitment without a rich benefactor. We’re still one of only 6 founder members of the Premier League to have never been relegated; without Bill at the helm, this might not be the case.

One of Bill's legacies will be the relocation from Goodison Park. Bill Kenwright, years ago, had the foresight to see that Everton's long-term future lay away from Goodison Park. He lay the foundations, got the fans' approval and set out to relocate. Despite some setbacks, Bill looks like he has finally, as chairman, achieved this goal.

Some will point to the Kings Dock fiasco; however, Bill Kenwright, again putting the club before his ego, refused to go all in for a stadium without the appropriate funding in place. Safeguarding the future of the club in the face of abhorrent abuse was more important than Bill's ego. He couldn’t provide the funds, so didn’t plunge the club into debt.

Again, he patiently waited for the opportunity that would best serve the club. Imagine if we’d have moved to the Kings Dock under a shower of debt. Players would be sold and we could have ended up the same as Sunderland, or even Coventry City. Bill Kenwright, once again, put the club before himself.

Bill Kenwright helped spawn The People's Club, a club that has virtues, respect and is a pillar of the community. He has kept to our family principles, ensuring that we have a community outreach that is far superior to many a club.

He has ensured that ex-professionals are not left alone, and that club legends, or those with a passion for the club, are looked after and can contribute to the long term success of the club. Whether it be Joe Royle overseeing the youngsters, Greame Sharp's liaison, Joe Parkinson's role, or the chances give to young, talented coaches such as David Unsworth, Frances Jeffers and Duncan Ferguson; Bill has always ensured that, once Everton touches you, it will never leave you.

Who could forget the countless acts of generosity? From giving fans who can’t get tickets access to the boxes, to helping out Speedo Mick, Bill constantly demonstrates his big heart without any clamour for media gratification. Much of his generosity is not even known about until weeks or months later, when revealed by the recipients.

Even to this day, Bill Kenwright as chairman has been instrumental in what could be one of the best transfer windows that we have ever had. The triple acquisition of star players Allan, Rodriguez and Doucouré this summer could revive our club and Bill, as chairman, has involvement that can’t be overlooked.

Bill Kenwright has arguably been Everton's greatest ever supporter and has almost single-handily ensured the long-term future of the club whilst presiding over one of the most successful ever Everton teams in terms of consistency.

Bill Kenwright – I applaud you.

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Ajay Gopal
1 Posted 14/09/2020 at 06:15:50
Wow, Kevin! Brave post on TW. I hope that you have your steel helmet firmly on :-)
Alan J Thompson
2 Posted 14/09/2020 at 06:19:40
I would query, at least, that Bill put everything on the line or mortgaged his house. I remember an interview with him at the time saying that he was putting together a consortium to raise £50 million to buy the club and he said that he could have bought the club not long before for just £5 million.

That was enough to tell me he wouldn't be the man for the job although he eventually paid Johnson £25 million, with the aid of a consortium who never seemed to be named and later Directors seemed to put money in from all over but few attended matches, certainly not on a regular basis.

I won't go into all the other porkies he has told but I hope that you've written this in jest, Kevin.

Alex Kociuba
3 Posted 14/09/2020 at 06:30:29
Weirdly timed article written in a bizarre and creepy tone.
Mike Kehoe
4 Posted 14/09/2020 at 06:31:33
Be interesting to read the responses to this as Boys Pen Bill is a regular and easy target for some. I have yet to see any compelling evidence of malfeasance, just loads of bitching flat earthers voicing lazy rumours when we are shite.

It seems we need to blame someone for a football team that has resembled musical theatre or panto in recent years. It wasn't Boys Pen Bill who cast Allardyce as Widow Twanky.

Ernie Baywood
5 Posted 14/09/2020 at 06:31:39
I'm also wondering if this is in jest... or just to provoke discussion and opinion.

I did think that, in an era where we laud some pretty average footballers on above average wages, he's achieved something.

And that something is probably more than any Evertonian in this era.

Without getting morbid, it will be really interesting to see how he's eventually remembered. I suspect it will be a mixed bag, but most will be grateful that he kept us away from far worse alternatives.

Jay Woods
6 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:03:15
Satire so soon after such a wonderful win... It's in bad taste to be honest, given the indelible skid mark on our club's history his name shall forever be associated with.
Colin Glassar
7 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:11:31
I stopped reading after seeing the title. A+ if it’s sarcasm. F- if it’s for real. It reads like something out of Stalinist Russia.
Steve Shave
8 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:13:03
Kevin, I suspect that was written entirely in irony ink as this seems to be your favourite pastime on TW. We will probably never know the answer to that as I suspect you will now sit back and joyously read the resulting explosion with utter glee.

However, I for one have never really understood the need of some to bash Kenwright, I do happen to hold the view that he oversaw stability for our club in a tenuous period.

I do believe he has always at least tried to hold the clubs best interests at heart. Yes, he is a teary-eyed old lush; call me a romantic but having a die-hard blue at the helm was no bad thing in my eyes.

Tom Dodds
9 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:15:06
Jay#6

Let's forever leave it at that.

Let the ‘arl arse's guard live on in their blind obedient ignorance.

Let (hopefully) the club march on.

Joe McMahon
10 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:23:55
"One of Bill's legacies will be the relocation from Goodison Park. Bill Kenwright, years ago, had the foresight to see that Everton's long-term future lay away from Goodison Park"

Kevin, it's an antiquated Victorian dump with restricted views and way too much wood in the Bullens (think Bradford fire disaster 35 years ago). It's 2020, Kevin, and, whichever way you spin it, we are still at Goodison. Many have relocated or rebuilt outside the riches of the Premier League even: Doncaster, Rotherham, Chesterfield, Shrewsbury et al. Selling Rooney so quickly and cheaply. Way too many things to cover.

Everton legend, I don't think so.

Martin Mason
11 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:43:27
Great article, a pleasant alternative to the myths that most peddle about him.
Darren Hind
12 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:46:56
Given you have plenty of previous for this sort of stuff, Kevin. It never ceases to amaze me how many people bite.

Your history teacher was right. You are a clever boy.

Patrick McFarlane
13 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:47:16
In any other era Bill would have run Everton aground, but the riches from the TV money kept the ship afloat... for a club of our size, the local butcher, baker or candlestick maker isn't the best fit in the modern game.

Hopefully we are on the verge of a new era, with Everton beginning to punch their true weight on and off the pitch.

John Keating
14 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:54:56
Kevin,

Might have been better to post this after last season restarted to give us more of a laugh reading the replies.

Steve Shave
15 Posted 14/09/2020 at 07:56:00
Interesting timing though, Kev!?
Phil Wood
16 Posted 14/09/2020 at 08:14:03
Great article.

Even if written tongue-in-cheek or as a catalyst for discussion, it still poses a lot of valid information regarding Bill's contribution to Everton's survival over the last few years.

I have always seen the positives in Bill's efforts. We would be in a lot worse position today if it wasn't for Bill.

Stephen Vincent
17 Posted 14/09/2020 at 08:19:03
Satire: Noun, The use of humour, irony, exaggeration or ridicule to expose and criticise people's stupidity or vices particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.

Nice one, Kev.

Martin Berry
18 Posted 14/09/2020 at 08:25:51
Bill Kenwright may yet have his day in the sun; if and when Everton win a trophy, I hope he is still around to hear them cheer his name to the rafters.

If the team improves and plays as well as we hope after the Spurs game, this may happen sooner than we think, providing fans return.

No Chairman's tenure is going to be perfect but Kenwright has always had Everton's interests at heart. I for one never understood the venom spat towards him by some posters and, when he passes, his praises will far outweigh them from those close to him.

Personally, I think he is a great guy and could not care less about the opposition as we all have our opinion and rightfully so.

Paul Tran
19 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:08:35
Good piece, Kevin. Given me food for thought for a few opinion-challenging ideas. Always good to see things from the opposite view – and notice how many will respond without realising your intentions!

If you write some songs, maybe you could pitch it to Bill for a new musical?

Steve Ferns
20 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:14:27
Kevin, you love to cop flak on here. You’re in the wrong job if you are good are good at arguing the indefensible.
Derek Thomas
21 Posted 14/09/2020 at 09:32:45
Happy Clapper (or WUM) in 'Bill is really sound' Shocker...and its not even a slow news week, close season or International Break.

Bravo, Kevin, it's still a free country – even for the blinkered and mistaken.

ps: We really need a sarcasm font on here...

Clive Rogers
22 Posted 14/09/2020 at 10:18:15
File this article under “fantasy”.
John Pickles
23 Posted 14/09/2020 at 10:28:34
Can someone go round to Don's house and check he's okay... he's not posted yet and I'm afraid this might have been too much for him.
Thomas Lennon
24 Posted 14/09/2020 at 11:01:28
Kenwrigth as Chairman has at best been a 'caretaker' role (his own words I think) never taking too many risks, never putting the club in jeopardy but also never managing to match the top 4/6/7 of the day.

Money pure and simple is what we needed - as yesterday showed. Kenwright had none, had to wheel and deal to keep giving us some hope, made mistakes.

The cost of proving ourselves as a 'big' club will be to match what others spend at their new stadia - I don't know about you but I have been mostly skint over the last 10+ years but still got to see a match or two every year. When we need more money to push us into the top 4 I will be one of those who have to stand and watch (outside BMD). I suspect there will be many more like me.

Kenwright kept it affordable but was never going to challenge top 4. If he played any part in the dealings this summer I will be amazed. We have people who want to win in charge now.

Dave Abrahams
25 Posted 14/09/2020 at 11:07:24
Kevin, I think I like Billy Boy more than you, good laugh though!!
Eddie Dunn
26 Posted 14/09/2020 at 11:48:37
Kev- I knew you were up to your old tricks but it does bring back the old arguments and whilst I agree with Steve Shave about Bill's sentiments being on the whole loyal to our club I have some reservations.
The fact is that since the good old days of Littlewoods we have not had the financial clout that gave us (along with good attendences) the ability to buy who we liked.
The timing of the European ban and Howard's decision to go to Spain were obviously pivotal events in our demise.
My own gut reaction to Kenwright was that I didn't like his mug as Elsie Tanner's son in Corrie and that is all I knew of him apart from him promoting absolute shite West End "Shows".
My own ideal would be fan ownership but the ridiculous money pumped into the PL by the TV companies has ripped any democratic hopes away from the ordinary fan.
VAR has been created to help the big clubs, the refs are there to sustain the PL Brand, and as the PL Brand is dependent on the big clubs, then the refs will Subconsciously(or consciously) give the benefit of the doubt to their darlings.
The media report from the perspective of the big boys( todays reports are more concerned with problems for Mourine than our brilliance(although the BBC have given us a bit more credit this morning).
Kenwright has taken his reward for keeping the good ship Everton afloat. I don't know if that was always his aim but I suspect he hoped for his golden handshake.
Let's also remember that Moshiri was at Arsenal and is with us to bask in reflected glory and indulge both his fantasy and celebrity. He too will most likely walk away with plenty of rewards if we maintain PL staus and build the new ground. By then we will hopefully be established in the top four and have more money from receipts and sponsors.
It is far from ideal but he is destined to be a footnote in our history who will have a stand named after him, just like good old Phillip Carter.
If we fans were in charge I think the stands would be named after players or coaches, not board members.
Kunal Desai
27 Posted 14/09/2020 at 11:55:48
Points you make in your article are the reasons why we have not progressed over many years. Who wants to applaud a man for aligning his own pockets and looking after his best mate. Less said about the man the better.
Nick Page
28 Posted 14/09/2020 at 12:01:51
Hahaha very funny, Kevin
David Pearl
29 Posted 14/09/2020 at 12:05:18
Kevin

Satire or not l agree with everything youve written... because its true! Bill is a kind and true man and l refuse to follow the crowd in condeming him when we should be applauding him. With the resources he's had we could barely do better.

And now we have a manager that has filled in the gaps needed and away we go. Lets see where this season takes us. Off topic; l finally saw yesterday how Zaha would fit in... picking up passes from James he'd rip teams to shreds playing in that system.

Nick Page
30 Posted 14/09/2020 at 12:16:28
I see some of the unenlightened Kenwright apologists (family members?) are out again, tainting the thread with their pig-ignorance. A wiser man than me once said, “in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king”.
Jimmy Salt
31 Posted 14/09/2020 at 12:31:22
Just couldn't read it sorry.
On Boys pen Bill - crossroads springs to mind.
Derek Taylor
32 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:03:05
Some years ago, at a time when criticism of 'the Great Man' was at it's height, an Everton insider (long gone ) asked me to pen and submit to TW an article in defence/ praise of our revered Chair. He told me that he would ' let me have the bones' of such an homily at which point I suggested he made a trip to 'The Freshy' where I was sure our old friend Doddy would be pleased to accommodate such a request.

It looks very much to me that dear old Richard is still alive and kicking !

Eric Myles
33 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:03:50
Kevin, that History A-level paper, was it about what a thoroughly decent chap Pol Pot was?
Tony Shelby
34 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:07:52
I presume this article is very much tongue in cheek.

However, if you were to poll Evertonians, I suspect that most would agree with it.

Tony Abrahams
35 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:17:41
I can’t wait for the day Kenwright is history!
Brian Williams
36 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:35:22
Kevin, you're a hoot!
Made me laugh out loud this one, well done.
Nick White
37 Posted 14/09/2020 at 13:58:46
Don Alexander, your article has arrived!

Fun article Kevin😂

Barry Rathbone
38 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:20:18
The problem with Bill is we don't know what would have happened without him. In a parallel galaxy he didn't appear and we vanished without trace in another Americans bought in and transformed us into champions winning the CL 10 times. We just don't have a reference to judge his tenure objectively.

I veer to criticism because of Kirkby. In a million years I could never countenance surrendering the city to the rats across Stanley Park. For that reason he's a very naughty Billy in my book.

Eric Myles
39 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:29:58
Derek #32, I recall Doddy being more of a 'Moyes Man' than a 'Billy Boy'?
Rob Dolby
40 Posted 14/09/2020 at 14:48:23
There is no denying Kenwright is a blue. He is also the chairman and taking shit from the fans comes with the territory.

Moshiri has spent 100's of millions and take shit every time he opens his mouth or uses Jim White.

Martin Edwards at utd hated football but managed to bring in Ferguson. The businessmen at Arsenal brought in Wenger. Bill brought in Moyes.

I have no doubt that Kenwright has done his best for the club though as our motto says only the best is good enough. Is Bills best good enough? After 25 years the answer is no.

We have had our expectations lowered for 25 years with Moyes taking knives to gunfights. Whilst the likes of Leeds, Newcastle and Leicester have dared to dream and have a go at the big boys.

Would anyone swap our last 25 years with that of Leeds or Leicester? I would.

Nick White
41 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:09:54
Rob, I wouldn’t swap with Leeds! No trophies and went down as far as League 1!
Joe McMahon
42 Posted 14/09/2020 at 15:14:17
Me personally I'm not bothered if the Chairman is blue or not, Look at Man City and LFC now (2020), this isn't the 60's anymore. Peter Swales also loved Man City, but now they are having thier most sucessful period with Khaldoon Al Mubarak and Sheikh Mansour, and they aren't local Mancs or indeed Supporters prior to 2008, likewise Tom Werner and John Henry.

I do however think that Bill should be recognised and for the charity work, even though he does live in London he hasn't forgoten his northern roots.

Charles Barrow
43 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:48:15
I agree with the broad approach of this article. He is much maligned in my opinion. He may have made mistakes, but I think he has had the interests of the club at heart. He may well have made some money but then so has every single person who invested in a Premier League club at the turn of the century. That, in many ways, is a happy accident (for him) of the financial markets.
Martin Mason
44 Posted 14/09/2020 at 16:55:02
Whatever else (for me at least), Kenwright told it exactly as it was from day one, he said that he would be a caretaker only until such a time as the right investor could be found. We're in the wonderful position that we are now because of BK even though there have been many bumps along the road even potential relegation. I think a lot of clubs will be waking up now thinking what an amazing thing we have pulled off with the cream on the pudding being the 3 amigos in midfield. It has almost an act of grand theft.
Jay Harris
45 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:01:48
Kev,
It may have been done in jest but the timing is poor.

I was on cloud nine after yesterdays performance and result and now all youve got me thinking about is the greatest con man in history who has served his own personal interests at the expense of Everton for over 20 years.

For the record he has never put one penny of his own money into the club and did NOT remortgage his house to "save" Everton.

Derek Taylor
46 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:11:42
Eric @ 30, you may be right, my memory's a bit hazy these days. But one thing I am certain about, is that this Prythirch article 'has been placed.'

Anyway, I've retired from ToffeeWeb !

Will Mabon
47 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:32:57
"whilst presiding over one of the most successful ever Everton teams in terms of consistency".


Gave yourself away. Bill would appreciate the theatre.


Tony Abrahams
48 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:37:52
Back to your best with that one Martin M, long live THE DUKE!
Christy Ring
49 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:38:31
Kevin, I'm guessing, you're "taking the piss"? Paul Gregg helped him buy the club, Paul's wife Anita loaned him the money. Paul was all for King's Dock, Bill against it, and Bill got his way.

Gregg sold his shares, Bill brought in his mates, none of them put a penny into the club.

He sold Bellefield, anything he could sell he did, he and his cronies made a total mess of the finances, and he sold Rooney to stop the club going into administration.

A legend.

Martin Mason
50 Posted 14/09/2020 at 17:46:10
Jay@45

A question? What corporate law says that he has to put his own money into the Club? I'd rate him as pretty stupid if he'd ever done so into what was basically a basket case and he is not stupid. Where we are now is purely because of BK and we are in an incredible position, one that any club outside of the top 4 would love to be in or would you actually deny this? Please clarify your insinuation that he has "served his own personal interests", and, if that is so, why he shouldn't do so as the owner of a Limited Company? Lets see a shred of evidence of any underhanded or illegal practices to benefit himself rather than the survival of the club. He had one great fault and that he couldn't make a sows ear into a silk purse and produce silverware for a minority of fans who believed that they should have it by some bizarre right. That isn't a fault in the real world.

Dennis Stevens
51 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:03:40
After wading through that I thought I'd better check the calendar!
Mike Gaynes
52 Posted 14/09/2020 at 18:22:10
Patrick McFarlane
53 Posted 14/09/2020 at 19:41:03
I agree an owner doesn't have to put a penny piece into the club, however, proclaiming yourself as one of the best Evertonians that ever lived, you'd expect him not to sell the family silver or retain power for the sake of it.

It's not the money that's the main issue it's the hanging on to his position as Chairman for so long. His power may have been diluted in the last few years but it's still a significant position in any organisation.

Don Alexander
54 Posted 14/09/2020 at 19:47:30
I've only just read this because I've been engrossed watching that self-serving lying wanker BoJo in the Commons debate.

Reminds of someone I just can't place.

Steve Guy
55 Posted 14/09/2020 at 19:54:01
Well that’s one way to look at it
Stephen Vincent
56 Posted 14/09/2020 at 20:13:46
Mike#52, I know, speechless!!!!
Dennis Stevens
57 Posted 14/09/2020 at 20:16:38
Hear! Hear! Mike #52
Alan McCulloch
58 Posted 14/09/2020 at 20:44:49
This club would have been sold to the dogs years ago if not for Kenwright.
Mike Gaynes
59 Posted 14/09/2020 at 21:01:59
Kevin frequently leaves me without words.
Winston Williamson
60 Posted 14/09/2020 at 21:58:27
Quality article. Loved it.

A football club isn't a typical Limited Company. There may not be a law which stipulates a majority owner of a Limited Company should invest their personal money, but the general nature, and environmental requirements of footballing success makes it a necessity.

He may have began his tenure with the intention of being a guardian caretaker, but the overall impression I come away with is his ego had grown into the role, contrary to his talents.

He found Moshiri, but could he have found someone else sooner? I guess that's not a question which can be answered.

I associate Kenwright with frustration. There's no doubt the club's stature (and assets) diminished under his watch. He failed to grasp the commercial side of a booming market. Plus, we've won nothing, not a single trophy. Yes, I have a bizarre right to expect trophies. It's a game. The whole point is winning, otherwise what's the fucking point??

Kieran Kinsella
61 Posted 14/09/2020 at 22:13:33
Martin Mason

25 years as “caretaker”? Guess we are lucky he didn’t want to hear long term. As for finding a suitable owner, who blew off Dubai and publicly announced our sale to that con man Fortress Investment Fund “checks in the bank.” Or am I missing the joke here and your Oliver Hardy to Kevin’s Stan Laurel?

Derek Knox
62 Posted 14/09/2020 at 22:47:35
Bill Kenwright, Legend! or LEG END?

Couldn't lie straight in bed! Not half cock!

The Patron Saint of Musturbators!

Kieran Kinsella
63 Posted 14/09/2020 at 22:53:44
Derek lol

Am I imagining things or did City or someone name one stand after Colin Bell, the Bell end?

Danny O’Neill
64 Posted 14/09/2020 at 23:07:10
Whatever side of the fence you sit on or whatever you think of this article, very well written and gives food for thought on both sides of the debate. I don't know whether you meant that, but it does. Pantomime villain or the saviour when no-one else would take us but held on for too long?
Dave Abrahams
65 Posted 14/09/2020 at 23:29:44
Martin (44) and (50), I've just come in from Ned Kelly's, they are closing early these days or nights. I just love you, Martin, you never fail to cheer me up. Even though I've never met you, you are a legend to me. Slightly different from your hero Billy Boy, but still a legend.
Ian Pilkington
66 Posted 14/09/2020 at 23:48:01
A well-written spoof worthy of inclusion in Private Eye.

You don't really believe a word of it surely, Kevin?

John Daley
67 Posted 14/09/2020 at 23:50:59
Well, I’m convinced and can see clearly now why Martinez said, back in 2016, that “all of us would love the Chairman to stay at the football club for another hundred years”.


EXT: L4. THE YEAR 2116.

Think… the beginning of Blade Runner.

Flying cars.

A birds eye view of a bustling futuristic cityscape.

Gigantic gleaming skyscrapers, modelled after the Mayan temples, piercing the clouds.

Artificial waterfalls for no apparent reason.

Absolutely loads of giant, wafer-thin, flat screen TV’s just floating in the air and automatically adjusting their advertising output according to the needs of individual passers by… (“Hey pal! Hey Jim! Jim Janouski!! Not heard of new nonce-inhibiting nano bots yet?”).

Fat birds dressed like Barbarella.

Skinny blokes dressed like Brendan Rodgers on a night out at Garlands.

Talking gorillas with machine guns acting as ‘undercover’ security guards at Morrisons.


CUT TO:

[EXT] GOODISON PARK:


Exactly the fucking same as it is today, apart from two rust-ridden, clapped out Robots (as
much cellotape as they are circuitry)… that look like rejects from those ‘Mash means Smash’ adverts… slapping a couple of paint brushes back and forth.


Ronnie: “Goodison’s gonna look good as new for the new season.”

Rodney: "Oh aye. As always. I don’t care what they say about him. Not many chairman
would have had the foresight to stock up on absolutely shitloads of blue paint well before the worldwide Dulux drought of 2057. And the ungrateful bastards still have the barefaced cheek to ask “Where’s the Arteta money Bill?”

Ronnie: “I know, kid. To think he mortgaged his own gaff to ensure this place had a glorious future as well”

Rodney: “He used to go in the boy’s pen as well y’know. Way back like. Before the dark
times”

Ronnie: “Aye, and he sent his own dad back in time to protect his not-knocked-up-yet mother from a cybernetic killing machine from the future that someone like the Blue Union probably cobbled together. Fucking big brutal bastard it was. Then, years later, he reprogrammed the exact same model and sent that one back to protect his younger self from an even more technologically advanced murdering twat who wanted to mess with Everton via the malleable medium of time travel. That was when he came up with his catchphrase ‘Hasta La Vista, Baby’.“

Rodney: “Wasn’t that John Connor? From those arl Terminator films?”

Ronnie: “Nah, Bill Kenwright that, kid.”

Rodney: “Brilliant”

Ronnie: “And what about the time Kenwright, Michael Crawford, Emu and Cliff Richard were in the Colosseum when it all kicked off against the Legionnaires of Scipio and Bill seen his arse, chucked his sword into the crowd and started shouting ‘ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?’ ”

Rodney: “Legend”

Ronnie: "Can your CPU even begin to compute what sort of state we’d be in if he hadn’t stuck it out for so long?”

Simon Dalzell
68 Posted 15/09/2020 at 01:14:16
We need to talk about Kevin.
Henry Lloyd
69 Posted 15/09/2020 at 04:16:54
Kevin, what a fantastic article about an Evertonian that is universally despised on this site.

I am one of the few on here that actually admires Mr Kenwright.

However, if it was "tongue-in-cheek", as many posters have suggested, then all you've done is nullify what must have taken a while to write.

Kenwright is going nowhere and the success he helped create is undoubtedly coming!!

Ajay Gopal
70 Posted 15/09/2020 at 07:46:35
John (67), what exactly do you do for a living, if you don't mind me asking? If you are not working for one of the top movie studios, then they are really missing something.

Imagination, wit, imagery... (my vocabulary runs out about here)! Every post of yours needs to be catalogued and preserved.

Hats off, sir! (Although I personally am more sympathetic to Bill Kenwright than you are).

Darren Hind
71 Posted 15/09/2020 at 08:12:29
Sharp, funny and of course a little bit silly.

Kevin isn't the only clever boy around here

Vintage Daley.

Peter Gorman
72 Posted 15/09/2020 at 08:19:36
"He confused Alex Ferguson beyond belief when he phoned him up crying at the Rooney sale, then fleeced United again years later with Fellaini."

Bravo moltissimo!

Mal van Schaick
73 Posted 15/09/2020 at 08:38:24
I believe that he has tried to act in the best interests of the long term running of the club. He may've made some mistakes, but don't we all. With Moshiri and Brands as allies, his current reduced role is appropriate.

At least he cares for Everton and is a blue through and through. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. After some transfer errors, we are no heading in the right direction.

Steve Shave
74 Posted 15/09/2020 at 08:42:46
Kev, just for once. please tell us what you REALLY think! :)
Mike Kehoe
75 Posted 15/09/2020 at 08:59:55
Kevin opened this theme by referring to a history lesson, and history is hard to navigate with so many minor incidents resulting in major events.

For us, the European ban was the major incident and then all the lesser events like losing our best players, Howard leaving and Harvey, sadly, stretching his skills too far out of his area of expertise, taking the helm and failing. Then, the Littlewoods money going across the park; ground lost in poor signings and a trajectory set in stone for mediocrity.

It is hard work to plough through the facts and apply a critical analysis to really scrutinise events in a meaningful way. So much easier to just ignorantly blame someone. History is full of this, from Hadrian in Jerusalem, to the wanker Farage, and the freak show that is Trump.

The political theorist Carl Schmitt described how an effective society needs a common enemy to unify against; evidence doesn't matter – you can use propaganda and rumour... sound familiar?

If anybody anywhere has any evidence of corruption then make it known. If not, can we leave all this shite well alone please.

Daniel A Johnson
76 Posted 15/09/2020 at 09:18:44
As much as this article is tongue-in-cheek, I feel the need to bite.

I can't forgive him for Destination Kirby and putting Jags and Baines into that awful promo video for it.

Surrendering Liverpool to “them” would have been the death of us.

Kevin Prytherch
77 Posted 15/09/2020 at 09:36:52
I honestly expected far more negative posts when I penned this article than what has actually transpired. Maybe its just that people who despise Kenwright often shout the loudest!!!

Regarding the timing - I originally penned this on Friday, however Michael kindly let me correct a couple of typos over the weekend - hence why it was published on Monday.

Tongue in Cheek? - I wouldn’t say it was tongue in cheek. There is a lot of truth in this, however to cause a debate I have obviously slanted it well in favour of Kenwright rather than making it balanced. I was considering mentioning the kitbag deal (in fairness to Kenwright we were losing money commercially before this deal so it actually made us about £4million a year - it was just terrible timing as the premier league was really taking off at this time), the Kirkby stadium (again in fairness to Kenwright, the majority of Everton Season ticket holders and members supported the move - although the claims of Goodison failing the next safety certificate were obviously fabricated) and the Arteta money.

I think Kenwright gets a lot of undeserved stick. I think he has always, and will always, do his best by the club. Considering he is not wealthy in comparison to other owners/chairmen, him and Moyes worked miracles in keeping us consistent. The run of 8th places finishes or higher is factual - the only other time we’ve done that for more than 8 consecutive years was under Kendall and Harvey.

I think Kenwright biggest problem is that he has always tried to give the supporters what they want, before things are actually finalised. I have no doubt he fully expected the fortress funds to be in the bank for the kings dock, and I have no doubt he fully expected Manny Fernandes to sign. He didn’t intentionally lie - he just should have kept his mouth shut until it was definite. It’s like saying to your kids “I’m going to buy you an Xbox game, then when you get to the shops they’re sold out. He had good intentions, but spoke too soon.

We’ll never know if he could have sold Everton earlier, we can only speculate on that. If he did due diligence, then in hindsight he has probably done this well as we seem to have ended up with a good owner.

Don’t forget as well, he wasn’t appointed to this role based on ability, he assumed the role because of the situation at the time. So he is bound to make mistakes.

I’m glad that so many people have supported the article. Like I said, I think he gets undue stick on here when he only has the interests of the club at heart.

Derek Taylor
78 Posted 15/09/2020 at 09:40:33
Yuk!
Richard Jones
79 Posted 15/09/2020 at 09:45:46
Kenwright said himself, he could have sold to Mansoor but the timing wasn't right!!
Dave Abrahams
80 Posted 15/09/2020 at 09:54:31
“When he only has the interests of the club at heart”

Brilliant that Kevin, got me hankie out for that.

I think that will be engraved on his tombstone.

Brian Harrison
81 Posted 15/09/2020 at 10:04:31
I think the late great Brian Clough summed up my feelings regarding chairman and directors, when he dedicated a whole page in his autobiography to them, it was a blank page. Everytime I enter Goodison now I have to see a stand for Philip Carter another stranger to the truth.
Richard Parker
82 Posted 15/09/2020 at 10:11:57
I'm old enough to just remember the 80s, my first Everton game was 87 against Luton at Goodison where we were presented with the Div 1 trophy.

I remember the horrific period after that, looking at the table in February and reading through the fixtures to see where enough points to avoid relegation would come from. An FA Cup aside, the Mike Walker, Kendall 2 and 3, Walter Smith days were about as bad as it gets.

Bill and Moyes get a lot of flak on here but at least in the time since Moyes was brought in there was some pride and expectation. We EXPECTED Europe each year, instead of hoping not to get relegated... since Moyes' departure there were a few highs and plenty of lows.

Now we're kicking on, hopefully after that performance against Spurs, with a top manager and better signings than I could've hoped for a year ago...

Bill hasn't always selflessly served the club, he has made mistakes and he hasn't always done what we would have wanted. BUT he has given us stability and expectation of something better. I thank him for that.

Brent Stephens
83 Posted 15/09/2020 at 10:24:53
Kevin P - admirable support for Bill.

Kevin Prytherch
84 Posted 15/09/2020 at 10:25:12
Richard 79 - wasn’t the fact that Man City had a new stadium free of charge whilst we still had Goodison something to do with the timing? It wasn’t necessarily the timing wasn’t right on Kenwright part (ie - he didn’t feel like selling), it was more like the timing was right for Man City.

I know people will point to the Kings Dick saying that we could have had Mansour if we had the kings dock and that is Kenwrights fault, but if we didn’t have the money for Kings Dick and sold players to fund it, we could have found ourselves the victims of “poor timing” regardless as we could well have had a far inferior team - or not even be in the division.

Steve Shave
85 Posted 15/09/2020 at 10:45:41
Well said Kev, some of it totally unwarranted and based on pure conjecture. Some of the vitriol towards anyone who sticks up for him is ridiculous also. Some fans perhaps just struggle with objectivity.
Richard Jones
86 Posted 15/09/2020 at 11:14:40
Kevin didn't Amanda Slaverley say there was an old boys deal going on in the background, that was stopping it and that she didn't feel that Bill was serious?
Nick Page
87 Posted 15/09/2020 at 11:17:03
Oh look, the old lingerer is still involved acc to this journo. Absolutely sickening how he’s taken this club and it’s fans - judging by the pig ignorance on here - for a ride.

“Those who have worked with him describe him as down-to-earth, a trait Everton chairman Bill Kenwright noticed when he held talks with the Colombian in his London base when they were finalising the move.

Kenwright's office is a shrine to Everton, festooned with memorabilia.

And during the course of a two-hour conversation, it was the mention of Wayne Rooney that struck a chord with Rodriguez, who has the potential to make himself a club icon.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8732527/James-Rodriguez-settled-Everton-family-singing-tricks-overhead-kicks.html

Nick Page
88 Posted 15/09/2020 at 11:23:09
Once again, I would refer those of you who firmly believe in Kenwright to re-read (or indeed, just read) Colin’s excellent article from 2010 on the self-styled, Great Saviour of Everton Football Club.

https://www.ToffeeWeb.com/season/10-11/comment/fan/16215.html

The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist

Patrick McFarlane
90 Posted 15/09/2020 at 11:47:55
Gentlemen!... Gentlemen!... Gentlemen!... In the aggregate, I judge you to be a highly distasteful collection. And to detail: cowardly, uncouth, and deserving of merciless chastisement. You'll oblige me by removing your unsavory persons from my immediate vicinity. In short: GET OUT!

you perceive before you, the shattered fragments of a temple once call Man. The blossom is blighted. The leaf is withered. The God of Day goes down upon the dreary scene. In short, I am forever floored.

So relentlessly pursued over aerie and housetop, and vice versa, I have thwarted the malevolent machinations of our scurrilous enemies; in short, I have arrived.

Thank you, this successful conclusion of my peregrinations through highways and byways is a happy augury that something extraordinary is bound to turn up.

No these are not quotes from Bill at an early 21st century AGM but those of Mr. Micawber in Charles Dickens' David Copperfield - I see many similarities twixt our chairman and the Dickens character.

Len Hawkins
91 Posted 15/09/2020 at 11:48:41
Eddie #26

Kenwright played Gordon Clegg not Dennis Tanner, that was my memory of something I haven't watched for at least 50 years I was about 11 when it started I'm 70 now.

As for Moyes, yes, he punched above his weight when he wasn't going to gunfights, now he is History and winning (that's what winners do) at the Hammers. But there is talk of a takeover at WHU and I think a bloke wearing a sheet with a tea towel on his head will be kicking Davie boy's arse out of the club.

I used to enjoy watching his free-scoring PNE before he came to Everton but I think he left the recipe when he departed Deepdale.

Tony Abrahams
92 Posted 15/09/2020 at 12:08:06
It’s like saying to the kids I’m going to buy you an X-Box game, and when you get the shops they are sold out. Brilliant Kevin, such irony mate!
Ian Horan
93 Posted 15/09/2020 at 12:14:25
All, I specifically stop posting recently as I found TW consuming my life, how ever once a blue always a blue!. so the recent article where James spent a couple of hours in Bills office talking about our history to convince him to sign is total bollick. James made it very clear he sign for Carlo!!!.

BPB has held the club back in my opinion, Kings Dock. Paul Gregg guaranteed the 40 mill on the proviso that any concerts and non footballing revenue was his or his organisations, which to me seemed fair as BPB didn't have a pot to piss in. Now before everyone jumps in Paul Gregg was upfront on this, unlike Phil Green and the astronomical interest charges to the British Virgin Isles. Indeed Peter Johnsons impact on the club was more beneficial than BPB Park End stand rebuilt. BPB the self professed greatest Evertonian ????. He has invested not 1 penny of his own money and has benefitted more than most.

I personally think praise or critism of him should now be binned as the future at long last looks positive and BPB will be no more than a footnote in our long distant history of existing to merely make up the numbers only once we move to BMD

Derek Thomas
94 Posted 15/09/2020 at 12:21:00
Nick @ 88; His 2nd (?) biggest trick was getting Moshiri to pay him a fortune and still let him play with the train set.

Polarising, divisive, wide reaching, are just some of the adjectives to cover the range of opinions on the Bill and his tenure.

If all the 'bad points' and all the 'good points' were laid out in an a la carte menu it would be a huge choice and for 6 courses everybody could pick a different starter etc and nobody would come up with the same meal.

It could be said, Kenwright's (for a given value of good, depending on your view) 'Good Points' helped us get where we got and his (again for a given value of bad, depending on your view) 'Bad Points' stopped us going further...much like Moyes to be honest.

All things to all people?
A bit like the Curates Egg?
Some from columns A, B, C, D, E, F etc?
A riddle, wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma?
True Blue And Chancer- it is possible to be both?
You can fool Some of the people All of the time...and All of the people Some of the time.But you can't fool All of the people All of the time..I wonder?

All of the above and more besides
And so on.

I'm glad I haven't got to write the Obituary...I wouldn't know what to put in or leave out.
Whichever way you went you'd upset a fair percentage, thats for sure!
Lets hope we don't have to find out for a good few years.

But you have to admit He's playing an absolute blinder in the 'having your cake and eating it' stakes.

Jerome Shields
95 Posted 15/09/2020 at 12:26:18
Hope this article is not serious. Barrett Baxendale will have it press released at the drop of a hat.

For achieving what exactly ? Making millions for himself. Especially out of selling on the best players and giving Man United a helping hand to get rid of their dross.

Everton have never looked like winning anything during his tenure and his influence is still apparent. Ancelotti will get Everton into the top six, anything achieved after that will be against the tide of Kenwright & Co homeground self serving apathy and incompetence, as long as he is Chairman.

As for a new Stadium Kenwright was always looking for a mug with money. It could be said he found one, but even a Mug has to do something when his money goes South.

Patrick#90

A lot of truth in those quotes.

Tom Bowers
96 Posted 15/09/2020 at 12:27:38
Bill is a true Evertonian no matter what his critics say about his business handling at Goodison.
Moyes is a loser and his record prove sit. West Ham will go down this season along with West Brom and Fulham. Nuff said.

97 Posted 15/09/2020 at 12:40:53
Brilliant Kevin; look forward to episode 2

Patrick(90); Reading that reminded me of the great curmudgeon, WC Fields, as Micawber in the film

Of the various versions of Fields' last words, I like "I'm looking for a loophole"

Robert Tressell
98 Posted 15/09/2020 at 12:44:32
Derek @ 62. 'The Patron Saint of Maturbators'. Nice turn of phrase - and if the Onan story is true it's a group of people in need of a saint.

Kevin - from previous posts I know you enjoy winding people up about Kenwright.

As it happens, I think we can fairly criticise for the failure of getting King's Dock off the ground. But we can fairly say too that had the club been in other hands we could easily have gone the way of Forest, Sheff Wed, Leeds, Man City and others.

The Kenwright / Moyes era is dismal in the sense that it firmly established us as an also ran. But it was also good in the sense that it spared us a much worse fate.

Rob Halligan
99 Posted 15/09/2020 at 12:49:13
Who posted at post # 97?
Jim Harrison
100 Posted 15/09/2020 at 12:58:19
I enjoyed the post, and the subsequent patter in the thread.

Isn’t the whole story similar of that which is being widely debated with regard to multiple figures in history at present? That it is possible for a person to achieve good things and also bad things?

Not everything he did was bad. Not all was good. Some was proper shitty, some borderline inspired.

The overall picture is that he kept Everton competitive on limited resources. A model most businesses would take.

For every Sheik there is a Learner. So he could have sold well or badly. The stadium of Light must be a good trip for the average league one fan, Goodison a bit of a let down to fans in the top tier

Churchill was a drunk, sexist and by modern standards certainly a racist. It’s possible for him to be all of those things and still see him as a National hero because of his other actions

Note. Bill is no Churchill

Jerome Shields
101 Posted 15/09/2020 at 13:42:29
What Kenwright did was get himself a few shares in Everton getting him on the board. He then managed to buy further shares with money he had begged and borrowed.

He then proceeded to mortgage and lease back assets to pay off his intial benifactors, giving him more control. He then ran Everton on a shoe string with the Premier League money funding borrowing and selling any playing assets of value. He kept everyone on side with a parental attitude no matter what their ability, and promoting himself as a Evertonian.

Things improved a bit with a increase in Premier League money, making Everton more saleble.

He was always trying to outsource funding for necessary development, but they all smelt a rat. He then had to finally sell part of his shares as the wolve was at the door, as a way to get outsourced finance , but managed to still maintain control through a negotiated share holder agreement, staying as Chairman and appointing those that would support him. The other advantage was that he was able to cash in on his initial investment, which had cost him nothing.

So really nothing has changed at Everton Kenwright with no money is still controlling the Club and has cashed in his gains on money that cost him nothing. He has been able to outsource finance for development, but has found that limited changes in his control have had to be made to keep them sweet, since they have had losses which needed addressing.

Nothing has really changed at Everton , Kenwright is pursuing the same objectives he always did.


102 Posted 15/09/2020 at 14:09:04
Guilty, Rob, 99 😁

Phil Bellis - logged in with my email address; didn't seem to like my username?

Mike Hayes
103 Posted 15/09/2020 at 14:33:00
The only thing Kenshite serves is himself at the free Buffett he’s a lying bastard of the first order and the worst thing that’s happened to this club - all he is good for is bullshitting - Kings Dock Kirby Walton Hall and worst of all Mansoor - wrong time my arse he didn’t want to let go of the train set - Quicker he goes the better
Rennie Smith
104 Posted 15/09/2020 at 14:34:40
Quite right Jim@100. We all have our flaws but deep down, there's a blue heart beating. It still makes me laugh when people claim he's in this for the money. Name me a club owner/chairman, that hasn't bought/sold in a short space of time, who's in football for the money?

If football clubs were real businesses there would probably only be 30-odd clubs in the whole of the country.

Ernie Baywood
105 Posted 15/09/2020 at 14:56:05
Correct Rennie. There are far easier ways to make money, especially when you have money.

Yes he's held us back. But compared to what?

Yes he's made mistakes, but compared to what alternative?

I was going to say that about the best thing you could say about Bill's reign is "better the devil you know", but he's a blue and deserves a bit more than that.

I mean, what were the rest of you doing while Bill was keeping the cub in the league?

Patrick McFarlane
106 Posted 15/09/2020 at 15:40:21
Ernie #105
I think many of us were doing the only thing that we could do, parting with our hard-earned to support the club, the attendance figures for Bill's period in office will testify to that. There are loads of ways of making money, that's true, but there aren't many ways that you can rub shoulders with the rich and famous - being Chairman of Everton Football Club certainly helped - particularly for a guy who admitted himself that he wasn't rich.

Tony Abrahams
107 Posted 15/09/2020 at 16:30:02
So Everton a club who had won a major honour in every decade of their existence, decided that didn’t matter anymore, because Kenwright keeping the club in the league was more important and a much bigger/major achievement?

Divide & Conquer, it’s written on these pages, and it’s kept good Old Bill, presiding over the most barren spell in the history of the Once mighty, but now plucky, “LITTLE EVERTON”

Jim Burns
108 Posted 15/09/2020 at 17:15:45
There have been many ‘ once mighty’ but now ‘ plucky little ‘ clubs - who have long since lost their top flight status and in some cases came close to extinction.
There aren’t many however who’ve remained at the right end of the Premier pretty much throughout.

Stop harping back - sometimes the best things come to those who wait - and maybe we are about to dine at the very top table again - FFS let’s at least enjoy the optimism!

Jay Harris
109 Posted 15/09/2020 at 17:53:27
I refuse to comment further on the proven lying incompetent self serving bastard that remains chairman except to congratulate John Daley on bringing some great "Theatre" to the proceedings.
Jerome Shields
110 Posted 15/09/2020 at 19:53:31
John#67

That's really good. Goodison looks like something that has been repainted too many times as it is. Your comparison of the world of the future and progress under Kenwright is spot.

Stephen Vincent
111 Posted 15/09/2020 at 20:02:58
Ernie #105, "made mistakes" He consistently over a long period of time ran the club into the ground, mortgaged or sold all the family silver and made £34m for himself while he was doing it.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
112 Posted 15/09/2020 at 20:04:39
I come back to the question for Paul the Esk.

How much did Kenwright put into the club and how much has Kenwright taken out of the club in terms of income and second capital gain.

The first is money which should have stayed inside if he had the best interests at heart, the second is simply the value he and others have added to the business.

Paul?

Christy Ring
113 Posted 15/09/2020 at 20:16:19
Kevin#77 You thought the Kitbag deal by Bill and Elstone, was a good deal? It was £3m a year for a massive 10 years, and Kitbag got all the profits, at a time when the profits were massive in the Premiership. They never thought of the bigger picture, just short term money.
Stephen Vincent
114 Posted 15/09/2020 at 20:23:11
Phil, he bought 68% from Johnson as part of a consortium (Royal Blue Holdings), his contribution was £9m.
He sold half of his personal 26% to Moshiri for £22.75m and presumably the same deal when Moshiri increased his stake. Kenwright retains 5%.
As far as anyone can tell he has never taken a salary at any point.
John McFarlane Snr
115 Posted 15/09/2020 at 20:41:19
Hi Brian [81] I think you'll find it was Len Shackleton who dedicated the blank page to "What the director knows about football" or words to that effect.
Paul Hewitt
116 Posted 15/09/2020 at 20:41:51
Excellent article. I've never understood the grief Bill gets on this site. Unjust in my opinion.
Phil (Kelsall) Roberts
117 Posted 15/09/2020 at 20:49:22
Thanks Stephen.

So all the money he has made by being the owner was because of the increase in value of the club during his time.

Selling "the family silver" would only have reduced the value as the cash input was used for operating expenses and the assets owned by the business were reduced. Any mortgage would simply be a creditor and so reduce the net worth of the business.

If he had not "sold the family silver" the value of the club with a fully owned state of the art training facility would have been higher. If he had spent money on improving all the facilities then again the value of the club would have been higher.

So "selling the family silver" actually reduced the amount of profit he made from the club. Given he has taken nothing out of the club over the 20 years other than seeing the value of his investment rise, then I am struggling to see where he can be accused of bleeding the club as some on here suggest. His failure, if we want to have one, was not having a big enough personal fortune to use to make the club more successful for our benefit.

Anyone notice this? HIS fortune for OUR benefit.

Tony Abrahams
118 Posted 15/09/2020 at 21:06:38
Jim B, what’s stopping you enjoying the optimism, you’ve waited long enough ffs.
Stephen Vincent
119 Posted 15/09/2020 at 21:18:33
Phil, buying and selling a football club is not a normal transaction. If EFC were to be valued on a normal commercial basis it would have been virtually worthless. Little or no profit, liabilities exceeding assets.

There were a number of occasions when Kenwright could have passed the baton but chose to stay in place, mainly because he wished to retain at least a titular interest in the club.

There is no doubt that had he chosen to take the Greg's money then Kings Dock would have happened but his interest would have been diluted.

There is also no doubt that Mansour's first port of call was Everton not Man City though the reason for the arabs backing away is not certain but Kenwright's insistence on remaining a figurehead would not have helped given the nature of the takeover at City.

I could go on, AGMs, BVI but I am so bored talking about this con artist.

Dave Abrahams
120 Posted 15/09/2020 at 21:34:05
Stephen (119), con artist? Some people think he is a legend... well, Billy himself does, and acts the part. Mind you, he was always a third-rate actor.
Andy Crooks
121 Posted 15/09/2020 at 22:04:25
The original post is such a heavy handed and utterly humourless attempt at satire that it is not worth commenting on. However, some of the comments are wonderful. True gold.
Christine Foster
122 Posted 16/09/2020 at 05:50:25
The years go by, don't they? History is rewritten or glossed over and here we are... Nick Page @88, thank you for the link back to Colin Fitzpatrick's excellent post, was it really 10 years ago? People should read it as a reminder because the details are often lost in the retelling.

People say the measure of a man is the company he keeps, so perhaps rather than comment, here is a link some 5 years ago of a poster who outlines the financial details of how EFC got into bed with the murky world of offshore finance, Philip Green et al:

The murky world of offshore loans and the ownership of Everton Football Club.

As for my own comments, I am just saddened that, 10 years on, there are those who still ignore the details... some who say nothing is proven. He has profited more than any other individual in the sale of EFC and still sits at the table.

Darren Hind
123 Posted 16/09/2020 at 06:44:38
Billy Boy's transgressions are well documented, but there are some amusing aspects to this whole debate. He's become such a Pantomime Baddie. His every action is now viewed as malicious.

I personally think his influence is now so diluted, he has little bearing on what goes on at this club. However, those who think he was responsible for the Great War seemed to have painted themselves into a little corner. We have seen so many of the transfers which have gone wrong, laid at his doorstep... Yet as soon as it's reported he spent a couple of hours with James and his agent when they arrived in London, we are met with a flat-out denial. Not by any of the concerned parties but by people desperate that he receives no credit... for anything!

I'm not here to defend Kenwright, but why would anybody be so desperate to deny that report? Think about it. Who better than to receive and regale a complete stranger to the club with tales of our glorious past?

The first thing James said when he signed was "I am really happy to be with a great club with so much history"... He didn't just pluck that one out of the air.

I thought Billy Boy's support had been dwindling for years, but I've sensed a resurgence of late. His past is well documented and people have found some of his actions unforgivable – me among them... but there is an absurdity in continuing to blame a man who hasn't been the owner for years for everything which is wrong at the club. It's even more absurd to then deny he has anything to do with – things which are met with approval. He's either in or he's out.

I suspect much of the support afforded to Bill Kenwright will be from fans who are pissed off with repeated attempts to flick his involvement on and off like a light switch in order to suit their own agenda.

Jerome Shields
124 Posted 16/09/2020 at 07:44:45
John# 67

Ronnie and Rodney are perfect. Ancelotti provides the success and Ronnie and Rodney come up with something for Kenwright to ride it on that will just run long enough to get his hands in the air with his belly protruding, shirt hanging out.

Darren #123

You are missing something in your post-The influence of Ronnie and Rodney, the redeeming part of Kenwrights tenure.

Andrew Ellams
125 Posted 16/09/2020 at 08:09:51
John McFarlane Snr @ 115, you have just burst a huge urban myth there.

I too always thought it was Clough that pulled the blank page stunt but a quick check shows you are absolutely spot on with Len Shackleton.

Si Cooper
126 Posted 16/09/2020 at 09:50:28
It’s not a fawning puff piece but it’s not satire either. Kev explained it at the start. “I got sick of being told there was no right or wrong answer. So, upon being presented with a mock question, I decided to argue against popular historical opinion.” It’s just a literary exercise but it is interesting to see who takes what from it.
I’ve seen all the old arguments and for me it isn’t enough that Bill Kenwright is a true supporter or hasn’t forgotten his roots if he has made choices for the club based greatly on whether he could retain control. I think we are very lucky that he somehow made friends with someone who was happy to invest in the club and yet let Bill remain centre stage.
The crack about ‘What have any of you done?’ is a terrible one. It surely can’t be doubted that there are plenty of loyal fans who if they actually had the money and / or influence and opportunity would do the equivalent (or better) than BPB.
Darren, I’m sure he was a charming and enthusiastic brand ambassador for the club, but I’m not convinced his input was crucial and nor should it be. It seems like he constantly wants to big up how important his player intercessions are and can always find a willing journo to keep us informed of his ‘good works’.
Dave Abrahams
127 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:27:36
Christine (122), thanks for the link, it refreshed my memory of how Kenwright has run the club, it will never convince most of Billy’s Backers, what’s that old song Christine “ They’ll never believe me”.

How much did Kenwright cost Everton with the interest they had to pay to the dodgy dealers Kenwright borrowed from, millions upon millions with not one penny coming from his own pocket, maybe near as much that went into the same pocket when he sold his shares.

How he got the shares in the first place is another story.

John Gall
128 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:30:28
Kevin's piece might have been intended as satire, but I think it's a brilliant take on Kenwright's involvement. So many Everton fans are deluded about the whole 'If You Know Your History' stuff. Everton were serious players in the game until about 1970 when the Liverpool machine kicked in and somehow seemed to suck all the life and confidence out of the Blues. So I'd argue that apart from the unexpected joy of the three Kendall years, 84-87, Everton have been in serious decline for 50 years. The miracle of Everton, and the reason we should all be proud of our club and appreciative of Kenwright, is that in spite of the pretty much constant overwhelming success of our neighbours, and the rise of lesser clubs like Chelsea and Man City, we have been a stable presence, rarely in danger, and for a football club, have been run with some professionalism and morality. Our support has stayed loyal and sizeable. The tragedy is the lack of trophies and the brain-numbing, incessant mediocrity season after season. But Everton are still there, still top-flight, and there are signs that we may finally be able to "compete" as Ancelotti says. He knows winning isn't easy, and trophies don't come easily but we have lacked bite, swagger and confidence for generations. I think Kenwright has kept the club alive, now it can really start to show itself.
Dave Abrahams
129 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:36:48
Andrew (125), that book was famous when it came out,The Clown Prince of Soccer by Len Shackleton one of the best maverick footballers who ever played for England.

It is easy to confuse Brian Clough with writing it because Cloughie was famous for telling his directors “ Just provide the money and stay in the background, I’ll do the rest”, and he did.

That’s why he never got the England job and he would never have suited a conservative club like Everton, he would have suited most Everton supporters down to the ground.

Dave Abrahams
130 Posted 16/09/2020 at 11:41:24
John (128), just one sentence, I’ve never, ever been deluded about the part Kenwright played in the club,never ever.
Tony Abrahams
131 Posted 16/09/2020 at 13:10:54
Kenwright kept the club alive, I’ve never looked at it like that before.
Andrew Ellams
132 Posted 16/09/2020 at 13:14:22
Dave, something in my head tells me that I once heard a question on a TV quiz show that attributed this to Clough which is why it stuck in my head. Clearly wrong.

He was definitely more a man for the fans than the suits. Even at the clubs where he had success.

Jerome Shields
133 Posted 16/09/2020 at 15:09:30
One particular point is that Kenwright was a Director during the Johnston era, when Kenwright took over it was the continuation of a Johnson type regime. Johnson bought his Shareholding for £8 million as far as I can remember and sold at considerable profit.

His era was the start of the financial shenanigans, and Kenwrights was its continuation. The difference was Kenwright portrayed himself as the guy who wrote Everton on the back street wall in Blood Brothers and jumped on Moyes 'People Clubs ' sop. All supported by the Media.

We all, including myself, fell for it hook, line and sinker, until we started to ask questions as months moved into years upon years and the true details started to come out. The all charade collapsed when Moyes believed his own publicity and thought he had managed to step of a sinking ship.

Martinez showed what could be done, but the Kenwright regime had permeated the whole Club and attitudes of Premiership survival where the norm.

There was no choice other than well Everton, but Kenwright was determined to hold on somehow.

Tony Abrahams
134 Posted 16/09/2020 at 17:23:01
Jerome, I’ve said it before but I remember the front/back page of the echo, with the headline “I WILL BUY EVERTON A FORWARD WITH MY OWN MONEY.”

Clever Bill, he said he never took a wage, in all the years he owned us, and he definitely never used his own money to buy us that centre-forward.

It’s like getting the shop and they haven’t got that X-Box game you promised the kids - “Kenwright has been able to treat thousands of Evertonians, like stupid kids, but I don’t think my six year old twins would forget so easily, and they wouldn’t shut up until I got them the game somewhere else!

Richard Jones
135 Posted 16/09/2020 at 18:03:30
John 128, I'm sorry mate but we were still considered one of the big 5 in 1991 when the premier league started, we were one of the main protagonists in its formation. We were a sleeping giant. I find it amazing after all that's gone on... we have a win away at Spurs and the happy clappers come out with this crap. I don't blame Kenwright he must pinch himself at the fact there are so many dullards in our fanbase.
Jerome Shields
136 Posted 16/09/2020 at 21:23:50
Tony#134

I feel the same and will never be confortable while Kenwright is Chairman.

Danny O’Neill
138 Posted 16/09/2020 at 23:03:46
John, clearly this is a devisive subject, but I'd argue Evertonians on both sides of this debate were pleased with the result on Sunday.

To label those who were impressed with the performance and result against Tottenham "happy clappers" is a bit derogatory in my opinion and you have probably included many of those who despise Kenwright.

I didn't think of Bill Kenwright personally. I was just impressed by the much improved performance of the team influenced by the signings the club made pre-season.

Danny O’Neill
139 Posted 16/09/2020 at 23:23:10
**Richard sorry!! I read John from your opening line.
Richard Jones
140 Posted 16/09/2020 at 00:06:19
Sorry, Danny, I too was delighted with the result, I think someone had said that its been 7 yrs since we beat one of the top 6 away from home. The Man Utd game when Oviedo scored.

It just annoys me that I couldn't even enjoy the aftermath without this small window of Evertonian happiness being ruined by the "Blue Bill's great" brigade, hijacking it and claiming isn't everything great under Bill's watch.

Danny O’Neill
141 Posted 17/09/2020 at 10:48:32
Fair one Richard. In honesty I try to, and normally do, steer clear of the Kenwright threads. They tend to go toxic early!!
Lenny Kingman
142 Posted 17/09/2020 at 13:23:53
Written as if by the narciccist BK himself.

I'm reminded of Fred Dibnahs catchphrase "did yer like that" delivered in the thickest of thick Bolton accent.

Brent Stephens
143 Posted 17/09/2020 at 13:36:09
Lenny, I remember Fred Dibnah demolishing a factory chimney stack with just railway sleepers set alight, and him standing right by them until the very last moment when the stack started to go and he sounded his horn. I have this reverse image of our Bill, flat cap on head, miraculously making a fallen stack rise from the ground as if by magic - maybe that siren before the start of home games is our Bill. Phoenix from the ashes.

What a fan base Bill has. Kevin P is bound to get a few theatre tickets from Bill, once the the theatres open again.

Michael Jones
144 Posted 17/09/2020 at 13:42:01
Have you all forgotten that he did win a trophy..
On the BBC quiz show called pointless
Lenny Kingman
145 Posted 17/09/2020 at 16:02:21
Brent I remember that scene too and I swear as he scarpered out of harm's way he spluttered hysterically and wild eyed, did yer like that!

Yeah BK will no doubt employ your script for one of his London productions in years ahead if things here go to plan. The long and winding road from Coronation street to his own coronation, Roman emperor style, on the dock road of dreams.

Tom Dodds
146 Posted 17/09/2020 at 17:30:53
Back in 1988 I bought a Ford Escort RS1600 (BDA)
Twin Cam.for 4k its now worth 90K+
A Prem footy club for 20 millwill now cost hundreds of millions ))

Kenwright used the Sky hundreds of millions to pay off his Green/Gregg/Earls/ Pay day loans.
Moshiri paid the last installment of 80mill off.

Gregg wanted to be on the board for funding Kings D.
Kenwright wouldn't have it and paid the money back to his wife.

He told the Blue Union in an interview he was offered 240mill for club. (BUT they didnt want him as Chairman) Blue U promised not to disclose but they did..Bigtime.

Kirkby was him (K) under orders from Green/Tesco to tow the out of city line OR they would give him F.A AND call their (Greens) debts in.

This is my last post on the subject,or maybe one day I will collaborate with the editors to put this to bed with one big Fuck off article to add to the tiny amount of facts ive mentioned here.
Ooooh didn't he only have 6 mths to live about 4 years ago???????

Kevin you know as mutch about Kenwright as I know about Quantam mechanicall bio-mataphysical processes.

Jay Harris
147 Posted 17/09/2020 at 17:47:14
Tom, Kevin was having a laugh but it pisses me off too every time I get on ToffeeWeb and see Kenwright - Legend.

Maybe we could revise that to Bell end.

Will Mabon
148 Posted 17/09/2020 at 18:01:58
Tom, that BDA is not light green with a purple centre stripe and WC arches by any chance, is it?
Tom Dodds
149 Posted 17/09/2020 at 18:28:50
It was white with blue side decalls... straight from the AVO centre of course.

Oh and I spotted the ultra rare RS 1800 one night outside Erics !! (around that time)

We also used to buy up the Police RS 2000s and sell them to Ian Harewood on the Wirral – the rally guy.

TBF you would never of thought of keeping them for forty years like!

Will Mabon
150 Posted 17/09/2020 at 18:45:05
Thanks, just a long shot. The one I mentioned had been a special order colour from new (not by me) and looked better than it sounds like it would! I owned it for a time early 80s, and last knew of it in the late 80s, always wonder how/where it ended up. It was very probably unique; colours, Bilsteins all round, arches, cage, LSD, as supplied factory built.

If I had now, half the cars I owned from back then! As you allude, no-one knew what was coming.

Ken Kneale
151 Posted 17/09/2020 at 21:31:20
Rather a pointless article, Kevin, given that 'Bill Kenwright – the Everton Legend' as you describe him, sold his soul in the early '70s to wear a Liverpool shirt and proclaim support for the RS on national television.

Every since, he has been suspect in my view and nothing he has done as a board member or owner has altered my view.

Gary Hughes
152 Posted 17/09/2020 at 00:35:15
The Kenwright era has coincided with the longest trophy drought in the club's history and the longest run without a derby win in the club's history.

I appreciate the rot had set in before his time but the transformation from Big 5 mentality to also-ran mentality was enshrined into our DNA during the Moyes-Kenwright years. We had some more than decent teams in this era but the cap wringing, know your place, deference to our betters attitude will forever blight those years.

Over the last 20 years, I've seen all manner of underdogs turn up at the Sky favorites and take 3 points whereas we've been beaten before a ball was is kicked. On a good day, we might get a draw but the idea of winning has long since been removed by a systematic lowering of standards that runs from the very top to the very bottom of our club.

The saddest part is that most of our fan base has been convinced that failure is normal, that 'Everton that' is normal. I remember '85, Villa Park, cup semi-final, just knowing we weren't out, that something would happen, that something must happen and it did. I hate to admit it but that feeling has long gone, in fact, it now belongs to redshite wools – you know why? Cos they won't accept anything less.

Us? Good old Boys Pen Bill convinced most of our fanbase that shite doesn't stink a long long time ago.

Bill Watson
153 Posted 18/09/2020 at 17:20:18
Brilliant post, Kevin, and an A+ from me!

The slight problem is many on social media and fan sites, including TW, don't 'do' satire!!

John Gall
154 Posted 18/09/2020 at 17:39:10
Incredible the bile you lot have for Kenwright.

Look at Leeds, Villa, Notts Forest, Coventry, Ipswich – clubs once long-term fixtures in the top-flight, now (apart from a recently revived Leeds) enfeebled by generations of corrupt, incompetent owners.

Everton have won 5 trophies in 50 years, and 4 of those came in 3 years. And although Philip Carter was one of the main shysters behind the formation of the Premier League (perhaps our ire should be reserved for him), Everton were clinging on to 'elite' status as early as '91 and were nearly relegated in '94 and '98.

So, instead of this notion of our unearned destiny to be amongst the Gods, the history of the club for half a century is one of absolute mediocrity.

If Kenwright has a major failing, it is in the selection of very average managers, and it started way back before his time from the decline of Catterick onwards – Billy Bingham, Gordon Lee, Colin Harvey, Mike Walker, Walter Smith, Sam Allardyce, Marco Silva etc.. some terrible appointments there.

If You Know Your History it's enough to make your heart go we're usually bang average but every now and again great. (Doesn't scan very well, that version...)

Jay Harris
155 Posted 18/09/2020 at 17:50:06
John, the mediocrity suffered under Kenwright is only a symptom of the way the man conducts himself.

The bile we have for him is well justified. To gratify his self-interest he would throw Everton under the bus at anytime. You only have to look at the litany of deceit.

Kings Dock – the money is ringfenced and then when it was proven not to be the case he refused to stand down as chairman (a condition that Paul Gregg put on for him funding Kings Dock).

Destination Kirkby which would have made him and his dubious tax-dodging friends millions he claimed that Goodison Park would fail its next safety certificate. it's still going strong years later.

He refused to sell the club unless he remained as chairman while he sold off or mortgaged all the club's assets to keep himself in charge.

All of his deceit led to the club being potless when the Premier league was awash with income thereby allowing other clubs to grow while EFC stagnated.

That is just the tip of the iceberg. Perhaps if you look into the man's chairmanship a bit closer, you will understand all the bile and the mediocrity we have suffered since he took over.

Brent Stephens
156 Posted 18/09/2020 at 17:56:50
Bill, while some of the responses apparently in support of Kenwright will have been in genuine support of a genuinely admirable chairman, I wonder if the counter satire in some of the others has been missed. Now wouldn’t that be ironic.
Barry Rathbone
157 Posted 18/09/2020 at 18:02:56
John Gall @128 I agree with every word.

The Howie years were a welcome blip in a long term slump into mediocrity after Ball, Kendall and Harvey.

Never ceases to amaze me how we still attract support given the stellar exploits of the devil's option next door. Love really is blind I guess

Brian Murray
158 Posted 18/09/2020 at 18:08:57
He really is the enemy from within and. Living curse on a once great club. Carlo wouldn’t really know or see this but I bet Brands has him well sussed.
Dave Abrahams
159 Posted 18/09/2020 at 18:28:03
Bill (153), you might want to revise your markings if you read Kevin (77), it wasn't really based on satire, he thinks Billy Boy gets a hard time off Everton fans, when he is doing his best for the club.

Thank God he wasn't doing his worst!!!

Richard Jones
160 Posted 18/09/2020 at 20:30:44
Here's one for you happy clappers... Bill Kenwright is no better than Gold and Sullivan!!
Kevin Prytherch
161 Posted 18/09/2020 at 22:28:57
Dave 159

Was it???

Paul O'Neill
162 Posted 19/09/2020 at 08:37:20
Well written article Kevin. Agree with your points and sentimemt. Well said.
Eric Myles
163 Posted 19/09/2020 at 08:54:47
Jerome #133, Johnson was the start of the financial shenanigans?

The Johnson that invested £10 million of his own money into the Club?

Not once, but TWICE!

And how much of Bill's money has ever been invested?

Dave Abrahams
164 Posted 19/09/2020 at 09:32:37
Kevin (159), you tell me, you wrote it, don’t you know?
Eric Myles
165 Posted 19/09/2020 at 11:13:39
Derek #32, apologies, I saw some old Dodds posts and he was definitely a Billy Boy. Seems he disappeared and Martin Mason took up his mantle.

Have they ever been seen in the same room together?

Bobby Thomas
166 Posted 19/09/2020 at 11:43:35
Cracking wind-up this. Love it. :-)

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