The midfielder was an unused substitute against Croatia and picked up an unspecified knock in training, casting a doubt on his availability to face Tottenham on Sunday when Everton kick off their 2020-21 Premier League campaign.
Carlo Ancelotti is already awaiting results of a scan to determine the extent of Mason Holgate's foot injury but he expects Yerry Mina to be fit and was confident that Fabian Delph's ability to rejoin the group this week after training on his own to this point.
The imminent arrivals of Abdoulaye Doucouré and James Rodriguez are expected to further bolster the manager's options for Sunday's game.
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1 Posted 07/09/2020 at 07:17:25
2 Posted 07/09/2020 at 07:42:43
3 Posted 07/09/2020 at 07:44:36
We could potentially have a quite exciting first XI but the squad depth remains questionable. It will be interesting to see how quickly the likes of Allan and hopefully Doucouré and Rodriguez are starting matches.
4 Posted 07/09/2020 at 08:10:15
5 Posted 07/09/2020 at 08:10:17
6 Posted 07/09/2020 at 08:11:10
Not sitting on a bench or getting injured in the warm-up, what are they made of? Porcelain!
7 Posted 07/09/2020 at 08:46:58
8 Posted 07/09/2020 at 09:06:22
9 Posted 07/09/2020 at 09:06:38
Now, after a rest which he didn't need, he has gone back again, when demand in training has been put on him. If Everton hadn't have got the new transfers in, the midfield would have not only been bad, it would have been a joke.
I was actually hoping someone would put in a offer for Gomes.
10 Posted 07/09/2020 at 09:14:28
You seem to have a rare insight into the players' fitness regimes and what they have and haven't done.
To suggest that Gomes has been less than careful with his recovery is one thing... to state it is categorically the case, is another.
11 Posted 07/09/2020 at 09:15:22
12 Posted 07/09/2020 at 09:28:13
I look at how slow we play the game and to me our players never look fit enough, most of them puffing and blowing after less than 60 minutes.
We always looked fitter at Bellefield, these days it's all too much perks and fringe benefits training at these luxury facilities like Finch Farm.
13 Posted 07/09/2020 at 09:28:58
The info says he had a knock – that is not breaking down when training demands get too hard!
14 Posted 07/09/2020 at 10:06:23
15 Posted 07/09/2020 at 10:13:48
I believe in Delph's case he dropped a pocket-sized pack of Kleenex on his foot. Three-ply with Aloe, I'd say he'll be out for 6-8 weeks.
16 Posted 07/09/2020 at 10:14:42
According to the link below:
Soft tissue injuries (STI) are when trauma or overuse occurs to muscles, tendons or ligaments. Most soft tissue injuries are the result of a sudden unexpected or uncontrolled movement like stepping awkwardly off a curb and rolling over your ankle. These are injuries our Physiotherapists see every day at our Edinburgh physiotherapy and sports injury clinics. However, soft tissue damage can also occur from excessive overuse or chronically fatigued structures, especially muscles and tendons. For example, if you were to do a long run when already fatigued (from a previous run or exercise), then it is possible to cause trauma or a strain to key running musculoskeletal structures like your calf muscles or achilles tendons, also see: “How to prevent running injuries”.
What are the most common soft tissue injuries?
Ankle Sprain (see exercise routine below)
Back Strain (see article on back pain)
17 Posted 07/09/2020 at 10:17:30
Answer: You are so soft that at the least touch you go down injured, get the tissues out to have a good cry, and then report to the Finch Farm hospital for months of treatment.
18 Posted 07/09/2020 at 10:18:51
19 Posted 07/09/2020 at 10:20:34
20 Posted 07/09/2020 at 10:36:16
The reason for this is both Saha (who played for us) and Sturridge (who played for Liverpool) were always out for long periods with similar types of injuries to Delph.
Klopp said of Sturridge's injuries “They are mostly in his head” and Alex Ferguson said of Saha “Unless he was 150% fit, he wouldn't play". If he felt the slightest twinge, that was it – he wouldn't play.
Both great players but seemed to lack something mentally, to me.P>I'm not saying Delph is a great player but is much better than average, when he is fit. I just wondering if the problem is upstairs with him, he could be a useful squad player this season, as we are not overloaded with good players even to go on the bench.
21 Posted 07/09/2020 at 10:37:35
We need to get rid while we can still recoup what we paid for him. Based on his performances since his return from his last injury, he won't be missed. He's got to go.
22 Posted 07/09/2020 at 10:41:13
I just think some players can't cope with the expectation and nerves and find any excuse not to play. Saha was absolutely class on his day. I just don't think he felt he could live up to his own expectations and sort refuge in the physio room.
I don't get that vibe from Delph, to be honest.
23 Posted 07/09/2020 at 11:17:37
24 Posted 07/09/2020 at 11:22:07
25 Posted 07/09/2020 at 11:48:49
On an entirely different note it's reported that Chelsea are open to offers for Barkley. I'm sure he'll go for more than the paltry £15M they paid us!
26 Posted 07/09/2020 at 11:54:44
Does anyone know if Ancelotti or Brands has now taken control away from the medical team re control of players' return post-injury recovery?
I remember reading an article saying that a major sticking point at Finch Farm, was that the medical staff had too much power over players returning to train; and, as such, certain players would be able to cajole longer stints in rehab than others, all the while, earning a small fortune every week.
As for Gomes, it could be a knock, or something as simple as a biomechanical/myofascial imbalance by changing training methods from USMFF and then training with the Portuguese National squad..?
Hopefully, whatever it is, I hope he recovers quickly, and completely!
27 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:05:31
Gomes should only have come back now, from his horror accident. He was rushed back too early. That's why he played badly; he's not a bad player and that's why he is injured now.
The only saving grace is Portugal will be picking up his wages as he did it on international duty.
28 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:05:36
29 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:33:39
Back in the day we always found a couple of pints of brown mixed or pale ale was a good pick me up after a heavy training session!
30 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:44:22
31 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:44:40
Complete and utter bollocks!
32 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:49:21
33 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:49:26
I except what you say, I allowed my frustration over recurring injuries get the better of me. I have little faith in Finches Farms recovery regime and do think that some players do take advantage. In Gomes case I am probably wrong. I think that Gomes is a ok player, but will always have weakness in losing possession when out under pressure, pace and mis timed tackles. He was never going to be a player to build Evertons midfield around.
35 Posted 07/09/2020 at 12:54:09
I'm slightly shell shocked that both Mina and Delph are both fit, at the same time, training and are potential starters.
I cant believe they will be anywhere near match fit nor able to stay injury free for more than a couple of weeks.
I wish them both well and in Mina's case he can hold down a regular starting place.
36 Posted 07/09/2020 at 13:28:09
Still time for a few more to be crocked. Could only happen to Everton.
37 Posted 07/09/2020 at 13:44:26
38 Posted 07/09/2020 at 14:17:41
39 Posted 07/09/2020 at 14:27:43
40 Posted 07/09/2020 at 15:09:51
This international break is a fuckin farce as well. Corona on the rise and we send players all over the world. Piss take. City are paying the price as well speak.
41 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:34:38
42 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:38:44
43 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:39:50
UEFA are a joke. Nobody should be flying anywhere whilst the pandemic continues. Money Money money.
Lets hope it isn't too bad and Mason is up and running soon too.
I just hope we have a decent ref v Spurs or they will kick Richarlson black and blue as they did last time we played them.
44 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:40:32
I assume the comment about Tosun was a joke.
We sent him out on loan to Palace and he got injured while training with them. Probably one of our guys went down to Palace to help them with their training. Yes of course, that is why and we are being charged by the FA for spying on the opposition at the same time.
45 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:45:10
If we had any swagger we would be offerring £10m for Barkley and £20m for Ndombele.
Make a statement that we are prepared to be chancers. It would be worth it to see Levy self combust - especially as we play them this weekend. Always good to sow a little dissension in the opposition.
And the reaction to buying either of them would probably cause a meltdown in ToffeeWeb.
46 Posted 07/09/2020 at 16:57:50
47 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:10:26
Martinez sacked our current Head of Therapy over soft tissue injuries. I take it he knew what he was doing having a Degree in Physiotherapy.
48 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:16:27
49 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:22:47
''The players often ran the place. In a lot of clubs, masseurs and physios in particular, as they spend a lot of time with players and provide them some relief, can develop really strong relationships.
“That can make it a little bit harder for people — doctors, physios and other therapists — to have the really difficult conversations.
“I think there was a reluctance of some of the people involved to use hard training as protection, and so instead theyd do more rest and recovery. Because that was the easy option. Its easier to sell to players, in particular. ''
Darren Burgess Performance Manager.
50 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:27:53
The pressing game has certainly looked difficult for our players to employ, mind you there's no use for ironing if you can't keep a clean sheet. I'll get me coat!
51 Posted 07/09/2020 at 17:52:44
52 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:14:36
Head of Physical Conditioning (Same level as Head of Medical Services in the structure) — Francesco Mauri
Recovery &Performance Specialist — Mini Fulco
There was a delay in Ancelotti announcing such changes
53 Posted 07/09/2020 at 18:35:09
Gomes produced 2 or 3 videos detailing his comeback. Everton released some as well. The medical staff went on record about the speediness of his recovery and how hard he worked.
As for the injury, it's vague information at this stage. Perhaps something might be lost in translation, but a "knock" always means a heavy challenge off an opponent (or a teammate as in Gomes's case). In other words he's been clattered and got some soreness. Usually it dissipates with rest.
If they said a "pull" or a "strain", then it'd be muscular, a soft tissue injury, and maybe you can question his readiness for the season, whether that's down to him or Everton is a different question. But with a "knock", there's no suggestion of not being fit enough, he's just been unlucky to get clattered.
54 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:01:58
Reference post #33
I have retracted my statement regarding the injury to Gomes, having let my frustrations get the better of me.
I also accept the facts you have stated and can see where you are coming from.
By the way you were right about Brands and youth development, my reference quote turned out to be two years out of date.
55 Posted 07/09/2020 at 20:45:11
56 Posted 07/09/2020 at 22:38:14
57 Posted 07/09/2020 at 22:41:30
59 Posted 08/09/2020 at 05:16:10
Gomes being a sick note (the same guy that had an ain't-no-coming-back-from-that injury a little while ago) because he got kicked playing for Portugal,
Nobody else gets pesky injuries. I assume not noticing “invisible” players are expensive?
Ronaldo never gets hurt, nor Messi, Suarez, Lukaku, Sigurdsson even. They're expensive!
UEFA are silly for allowing players to fly around because of Covid-19. Anyone else overjoyed that James flew to Liverpool recently?
This site used to be full of knowledge and wit.
Be happy, Blues x
60 Posted 08/09/2020 at 11:25:35
Some years ago, students at De Montfort University in Leicester, got so fed up with sports being described as 'extreme this' and 'extreme that' that they decided to set up the Extreme Ironing Club, to take the Mickey!
They photographed themselves ironing halfway up Everest and under the sea!
There's now a world championship of 'extreme ironing' played for the Rowenta Cup - Rowenta being manufacturers of Irons!
There's a website dedicated to it, called 'The Cool of the Wild'.
Seems they found a 'seam' of humour er, hmm!
62 Posted 09/09/2020 at 16:16:11
Delph on the other hand, is just a sicknote & for me much preferred in the left back ( in the changing room) position.
To the guys who have enlightened us all about soft tissue injuries Thanks for makin' laugh out loud ( in a public place, sitting on my own). Most embarrassing!!?
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