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Everton chase Van de Beek loan deal
With the appointment of Frank Lampard as the new Everton manager expected to be announced as soon as a contract is agreed and signed, the rumour mill has swung into overdrive with possible new signings that may get over the line before Monday's rapidly approaching transfer deadline.
Donny van de Beek and Jesse Lingard have been frequently mentioned names who may be prised away from Manchester United while Dele Alli was reportedly weighing his options and wouldn't consider the Blues until there was clarity over the managerial situation.
The links to Ruben Loftus-Cheek at Chelsea might seem obvious but he would make sense and, while Thomas Tuchel has said he would prefer to keep him at Stamford Bridge, the midfielder isn't a first-choice starter and might welcome a loan opportunity on Merseyside.
The more likely option at this point is Van de Beek after Fabrizio Romano tweeted that Everton have entered what is now a two-horse race with Crystal Palace for his signature on loan.
With Anwar El Ghazi already brought in on a temporary basis, the club can only loan one more player from the Premier League and would need to look abroad for any further loan acquisitions before the deadline.
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2 Posted 29/01/2022 at 11:54:46
3 Posted 29/01/2022 at 12:22:32
Doubt we have the financial slack to buy right now though.
Looks like Van de Beek is going to Palace but Loftus-Cheek, Barkley, Lingard, Dele Alli and Aaron Ramsey still possibly available. Juve must be desperate to offload after signing Vlahovic.
4 Posted 29/01/2022 at 12:24:36
5 Posted 29/01/2022 at 12:32:46
6 Posted 29/01/2022 at 12:43:27
The best of the bunch have been Billing at Bournemouth, Swift at Reading, Gibbs White at Sheffield United, O'Brien at Huddersfield, Buckley at Blackburn and Fabio Carvalho at Fulham.
The last two are the youngest and possibly the most interesting. The talented Carvalho will probably end up at a bigger club (Liverpool have apparently been sniffing) but I like the look of John Buckley who is extremely hard working and quite athletic whilst also having a good eye for a pass and the odd goal. Gibbs-White is the other intriguing option but I don't imagine Wolves would let him go cheap.
7 Posted 29/01/2022 at 12:55:00
Who would be people's preference?
If, fit I'd probably take Loftus-Cheek but that might be a big if.
8 Posted 29/01/2022 at 12:59:05
I think Danny van de Beek is the best option out there for us right now. Lingard and Loftus-Cheek would enhance the team but no 10's both of them as I understand it. We need someone who can sit, a no 6, now I know Van de Beek has played in both 6, 8 and 10 at Ajax and Man Utd. Therefore he would be able to play 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3. I like him and feel he would have a point to prove.
I really think Dunc is going to be given the heave-ho and that's what's taking time. Or maybe as someone mentioned they are going to announce a DOF at the same time? Praying not for Frank but for the right backroom staff behind him.
9 Posted 29/01/2022 at 13:02:17
Only heard of the latter when he was linked with Leeds.
I'm not sure what to expect out of Lampard in the transfer market but very short term I expect he'll be tapping into the Chelsea squad contacts - and maybe out of favour players from the England set up.
Otherwise it's whatever agents are touting about.
DeBeek would be a very decent loan signing I would think because he has so much to prove and we represent a good opportunity for him.
10 Posted 29/01/2022 at 13:09:09
I dont like to be relying on Man Utd on Deadline Day after the Rojo saga when they had us over a barrel and wanted £20m. Then let him go for free a few months after. The board should be wary of dealing with them. Give them a deadline and be prepared to walk away.
Jury is out whether Van de Beek can handle the Premier League after failing to get in an average Man Utd side.
Loftus-Cheek does seem to struggle with injuries, but when fit has done quite well. Keeping him fit is a concern.
Hopefully we are looking at other alternatives too, but options will be very limited in this window.
11 Posted 29/01/2022 at 13:13:40
12 Posted 29/01/2022 at 13:16:43
Point is Cheek or Beek or whoever is an upgrade for now and if we survive these losers, Delph Sigurdsson, Gomes etc I assume are out of contract in the summer.
I'm not telling you anything you don't already know. I'm having a rare great Saturday just me and Ms Smirnoff with no game to balls it up. Coyb.
13 Posted 29/01/2022 at 13:23:04
Van de Beek is an interesting one. Very comfortable with the football at his feet and an eye for a pass, from what I've seen. We need that. A lot of our players don't show enough care and love to the football. Now I think of it, the style of player Lewis Warrington seems to be developing into? That's from limited observations, by the way, so feel free to correct.
Those who read my often crazed writings know what I want. The plug for the midfield gap is important, but a ball playing, front foot thinking centre back.
Centre-back, centre-back, centre-back. Can we have a new centre back?
For those who prefer a more traditional left-back, I'm surprised Target didn't feature in the negotiations with the Digne deal as a cash + swap. Having spent a lot on Mykolenko, I guess that's not a priority but I can't see him being happy playing second string at Villa having previously established himself.
14 Posted 29/01/2022 at 13:23:56
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four, and, under no circumstances, shall more than one be from the same club at any one time.
- Premier League clubs cannot loan to another Premier League club a player they have acquired in the same transfer window.
So with the wonderful El Ghazi signing, we have one Premier League loan left. Loftus-Cheek would my choice. He 27 in January and needs to find a club to put it together. I suspect we will get Barkley though.
15 Posted 29/01/2022 at 13:37:55
Beek n Cheek... Love it! Maybe even a Cheeky Beek...?
That said, I reckon those two would benefit us. Loftus-Cheek can play most way across the mid, him and Doucouré would be a strong force.
16 Posted 29/01/2022 at 13:47:49
17 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:00:12
18 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:01:42
Since Everton became interested in Van de Beek, I watched him a few times for Man Utd whenever he played and as you say, he was very comfortable with the ball at his feet and an eye for a pass. Another thing I noticed was his movement off the ball after a pass that made him dangerous in the box.
19 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:02:33
But for injury Loftus-Cheek might have become a real star. Again, decent signing.
Both could chip in with a few goals, too. At this late stage, getting either of these players - or Dele Alli or Ramsey could really make a difference.
I also think we need a proper sitting midfielder - because Allan and Doucouré both better at hunting down the ball than shielding the back 4. But unlikely to get someone for this role in the next day or two.
Holgate or Godfrey or even Gbamin might deputise till summer.
20 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:06:01
Our midfield needs sorting out, as in additions.
Loftus-Cheek will be a good one too.
21 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:11:16
Dele Alli seemed to go off the boil as young players do, but was that badly influenced by becoming one of Mourinho's inevitable targets? It's what he does, after all.
There could still be something in there and Everton could be a platform for him. Good at set-pieces and when he plays with a smile on his face, enjoying his football, he expresses himself. As players tend to.
22 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:20:31
23 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:22:48
These are not the guys we need at the moment.
24 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:22:48
25 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:37:56
After a fucking crackers week,
Our midfield's old and past its peak,
But, Loftus-Cheek and Van de Beek?
26 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:49:14
in front of a defence that leaks
it will take more than a few tweaks
otherwise come May we'll hear shrieks!
27 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:52:28
If we can get a player like this, and they make as much impact as the unfashionable Gray and Townsend then it will be good business.
28 Posted 29/01/2022 at 14:55:40
29 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:01:27
Play one as the number 6 to sit like Gana, Makelele, Gilberto Silva role.
Then let Gomes do whatever he wants as he is decent on the ball, can cross, can dictate the game and find pockets of space.
Allan or Doucoure as the third midfielder, as they are obviously decent too.
30 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:02:27
Robert 25 - Agree with you mate, just having a bit of fun.
And yes, we're not going to pull that sort of player at the moment. These two players (if they were to come in before the deadline) improve us and give us more options. All for it.
31 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:13:26
Dele Alli seems to have really lost his mojo so I'd say that Donny van de Beek makes a lot of sense.
But yes, as many have already said, we definitely need a holder in the middle as well and that should also be a priority. Hopefully Frank can work some magic and find that crucial player to get us out of this mess.
32 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:19:21
He might be an option, though I'm sure t'would hack Wayne off a lot!
The other option I'd like, despite Dutch players failing usually at Everton, is Donny van de Beek. A class player, who hasn't had time to find form due to lack of minutes.
After that, I'd look at Dele Alli next, then Jesse Lingard.
Ideally, we'd try for Tielemans, but... hey-ho.
As Danny O has said, we still need a centre-back, a striker and a 3rd midfielder to my mind.
33 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:24:40
Robert @18 says it accurately, running off the ball in a 4-3-3 is his style (as brought threw the Ajax academy – Johan Cruyff would have approved)
Who do we have who could play on the same wavelength?
Richarlison and Demarai Gray spring to mind.
My own view of him has always been a cleverer version of Davy Klaassen, for what it's worth.
34 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:25:35
35 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:28:05
36 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:40:02
37 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:41:00
Yes, we'll get plenty of excited posts, hearsay etc, like we do in every window, but the outcome is usually zilch and the players mentioned will turn up at Palace, Leicester, Wolves etc next season!
We desperately need midfield players but my guess is, if we get anyone, it will be one of the young players from the Championship that Sam mentions @5 above, plus Barkley on loan. (God help us!)
Whoever we go for, we need to get on with it now! But I wouldn't be surprised if we end up with no-one.
38 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:43:45
- The maximum number of loans registrable in the same season is four
At the moment we have 1. (Lyndon too busy with all the manager stuff to update the 1st team players 😉. Just proving he is not an Octopus)
Any one time? Definition. Is that 2 per window, or 2 per day? So can we bring in 2 tomorrow and another Monday?
39 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:47:56
Does that not mean he is a wonderful match for our club??
40 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:55:05
Unless the imminent Derby takeover finally happens, Knight could leave for a very low sum indeed because they're currently struggling to pay wages I believe.
41 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:57:36
I believe two at the same time means concurrently at the club, not one signed at 2:05 pm, one at 2:06 pm and one at 2:07 pm.
Whichever nut (Moshiri) signed El Ghazi (for his mate Kia) really has hamstrung us here. Assuming the Donny van de Beek loan comes off, the chequebook needs to come out for a tackling central midfielder too.
42 Posted 29/01/2022 at 15:58:05
"We are not and never have been able to pick from the top table"??
Are you very young or is your memory fading?
I grew up in the era when Everton set the bar for transfers. Transfer records fell and, in the days when players could choose from the top clubs, they regularly picked Everton as their destination.
Yes, that was a long time ago. But as well as the signings of the likes of Ball, Latchford, Heath, Lineker et al, my real favourite was when Ian Snodin had two offers on the table and chose us instead of going to Anfield.
I know that those days are, for now at least, gone. But we were top dogs once.
43 Posted 29/01/2022 at 16:05:12
He has been getting rave reviews and they say he is destined for the Premier League. I wish we could have offloaded Gomes or Iwobi (preferably both) to free up some space to get this lad in.
44 Posted 29/01/2022 at 16:23:37
Moshiri has signed quite a few players already in his time with us (players that our then managers or DOF probably didn't actually want) and as we all know, Kenwright has been signing and selling players for two decades.
How lucky we are to have a real football man and a hugely successful businessman at the top of our club.
What could possibly go wrong
45 Posted 29/01/2022 at 16:42:41
46 Posted 29/01/2022 at 16:49:18
47 Posted 29/01/2022 at 17:10:52
48 Posted 29/01/2022 at 17:37:30
49 Posted 29/01/2022 at 18:39:21
I was thinking the same.
50 Posted 29/01/2022 at 18:47:08
But we desperately need players to bolster our midfield and time is running out.
51 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:13:01
One goal out of nothing could make all the difference this season. So we shouldn't write him off.
And I expect we will get only one new player in (and need a bit of luck doing that) given we haven't even announced Lampard yet.
Loftus-Cheek and Van de Beek work best in similar spaces so we need only one of them anyway.
However, I could see him presiding over a big-time overhaul of the squad in summer.
52 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:19:47
What does he actually do? Not fast or dynamic enough. Not suited to the Premier League in my opinion.
53 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:22:32
And if we don't get Van de Beek or anybody else signed in the next 28 hours, he could be a valuable pair of legs. I still think that Townsend could fill in capably in the center of midfield if necessary.
I read an article about him last summer, before we signed him, that listed him as one of Europe's most efficient midfielders defensively (tackles/interceptions), and we know he's composed on the ball. As a fill-in defensive midfielder, I think he'd certainly be better than Holgate or Godfrey.
And if Townsend plays centrally, that gives us a 4-5-1 midfield of Rich, Gordon, Townsend, Allan and Gray, with El Ghazi to come off the bench late in games. Not horrible.
54 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:26:21
I'd like Lingard because we need more potency up front. Think we're short at centre-back unless Branthwaite is given a chance. All the suggested names are better than what we have at present.
55 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:27:24
The issue is that he's competing against Gordon and Townsend for the right-wing spot, and maybe Gray too if we change away from 4-4-2 like we need to.
We simply didn't need to waste a loan in this area, not when we have only 3 half-fit central midfielders, only one left-footed full-back, and no natural left-sided central defenders.
This is the insanity of management and why we should all be backing 27 years, at least until it really turns round on the squad side.
56 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:33:39
Despite thinking he's still better on the wings, I also like the idea of using Townsend in the middle, to be honest. However, the idea of that 5-man midfield you suggested just makes it look like complete Jelly. I'm 45 and 3 stone overweight, but I could run through it.
He's left-footed, maybe try him on the left in a 3, and let him bomb up and unleash a rocket now and again.
Think if we had him and Donny either side of a real destroyer, it could work. The issue there is: we have no destroyer.
57 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:37:20
Whilst bad attitude is the last thing we need, anyone think a cheeky £15M + last night's Venezuelan hat-trick hero is maybe worth an ask?
58 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:37:51
59 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:41:56
I too like Loftus-Cheek. Don't Moshiri and Abramovich have a common buddy in Usmanov? Let's see if Moshiri can do something constructive for a change.
60 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:43:42
As for those writing off Van de Beek because he's Dutch and Klaassen wasn't so good, that's a bit like saying no to Robben because Drenthe was loopy.
We've had so many rubbish English players, maybe we should avoid Dele Alli because Stephen Hughes was awful.
61 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:50:47
You're only capable of winning games if you get a game. He shouldn't get any minutes ahead of Gordon, Townsend, or even Dobbin (who I also think can start out wide too). He's not a player we need now, or in the future.
62 Posted 29/01/2022 at 19:55:04
Kevin Sheedy was languishing in Liverpool's reserves.
Sometimes a player can thrive in a different team and in different surroundings.
I confess to not knowing too much about Van de Beek to be honest, but having read, I interpret that there is disagreement on the comparisons with Klaassen as that has been labelled previously. Both are known for good movement off the ball but Van de Beek is better in possession of the football.
I always felt for Klaassen. I could see a player; an intelligent one. But he joined a dysfunctional Everton team during "that" summer. The one where our transfer strategy was at its most dysfunctional best with Walsh, Moshiri, Kenwright & Koeman doing their own thing.
63 Posted 29/01/2022 at 20:12:03
64 Posted 29/01/2022 at 20:31:16
I think we need a more combative central midfielder too, but we'd have to buy one, options are limited. Maybe someone whose contract is ending? It's a tough one.
One more, Lingard as a permanent signing would be a good addition if the price was right, he would give us more creativity and something different going force. There's goals and assists in him, very impressive on loan with West Ham, we could offer him a home to play his best football.
Man Utd will play hardball, but these two are already in the North-West, not getting game time and are worth trying for in this limited market.
65 Posted 29/01/2022 at 20:53:21
The young Dele Alli was an all-action central midfielder who got pushed into an advanced midfield role at Tottenham, and his ability to adapt and succeed in that role meant he was rebranded as an attacking player.
For me, that seems to have gone very stale now, and I reckon that – if he has the appetite to work hard and the curiosity to see how far his talent can take him – Lampard could do a lot worse than try to remake him in his own image; the energetic central midfielder who can link defence and attack and arrive late in the box to support the forwards.
66 Posted 29/01/2022 at 21:02:16
67 Posted 29/01/2022 at 21:08:07
The season is in the balance and midfield cover is essential to try and get away from the drop zone.
68 Posted 29/01/2022 at 21:12:55
Dele Alli is an interesting one. There were rumours about Frank wanting him. He is a player that needs the right club and manager to spark his career back into life. Frank Lampard and Everton fit the bill.
I don't think we could have both him and Lingard, but I'm not sure who would be the best signing if both were gettable in the next two days.
69 Posted 29/01/2022 at 21:16:44
From the little I've seen and read of Knight, he looks a good prospect but I'm not sure he is Premier League ready. He would probably be one to buy and send out on loan again but not sure he's ready to improve our first team right now.
Ajay @43,
Brennan Johnson is excellent but a wide player primarily, I think (though definitely has and could feature in central attacking midfield). I was listing central midfield options.
Van de Beek... I'm not sure on; better than Klaassen but a similar mold perhaps. Would be worth it if we could get a buy option but apparently that is not gonna be possible.
Dele Alli is an interesting one; he looked such a talent but has gone so far off the boil. Would he have the fight for it? If Lampard could get him back close to what he was, then he'd be a tremendous option.
70 Posted 29/01/2022 at 21:19:45
If that is the case, I'd go with the proposed loan of Donny van de Beek, make an offer for Dele Alli, and make a cheeky bid for Knight.
We don't need to sign another defensive midfielder, as we have Davies, Delph and Doucouré coming back from injury in 4 weeks or so.
We need someone to replace Gomes, a genuine No 8 (Van de Beek), and a little creativity (Alli) if we can't get Alli, Ruben Loftus-Cheek could be a better option due to age and wage, than Jesse Lingard.
Again, to my mind, we're still short of a centre-back and a striker...
Thanks for your reply, Robert.
71 Posted 29/01/2022 at 21:20:49
72 Posted 29/01/2022 at 21:27:06
If I get the chance, I'll be watching him tomorrow as Forest are away at Cardiff. I think this kid is going to be a Premier League standard midfielder. He's only 20 so more development needed yet. He has 2 years left on his contract so maybe we can be a poacher for once.
73 Posted 29/01/2022 at 21:34:35
Yeah Garner has looked handy. Would be a good poach but don't imagine Man Utd would give him up easy.
Zakaria available for only £6M! Shame we're not able to interest him.
74 Posted 29/01/2022 at 22:00:45
- Van de Beek
- Alli
- Loftus-Cheek
- Barkley
- Lingard
- Ramsey
And we might not be able to get that over the line.
Summer will probably be completely different with lots of ins and outs, but we'll have to make do for now.
75 Posted 29/01/2022 at 22:35:28
To the tune of…Trumpton, Pugh Pugh, Barney McGrew
Alli, De Beek, Loftus-Cheek, Barkley, Lingard and Ramsey.
Sorry, I'm losing the plot. Good night.
76 Posted 29/01/2022 at 22:55:25
An absolute doppelganger for that other Dutch fella we signed who found it all a bit too much I wouldn't rate him as Championship standard.
Surely we've learned to avoid Man Utd rejects... surely???
77 Posted 30/01/2022 at 00:53:48
I would say we need another of the same profile as Doucouré; box to box, all action, combative, physically imposing and with the necessary skills and attacking attributes but secondarily to the first set of talents.
We may not have an out-and-out “10” in the squad but we do have at least 4 players who can play in that position and a whole lot more (wingers) who would benefit from us playing a formation without a “10”.
78 Posted 30/01/2022 at 01:51:52
Up to the player to now decide where he wants to go.
79 Posted 30/01/2022 at 03:37:18
I'll see if it takes the back of a postage stamp to contain all the names of viable contenders.
Yeah, right.
80 Posted 30/01/2022 at 03:40:56
81 Posted 30/01/2022 at 03:50:04
82 Posted 30/01/2022 at 04:07:04
83 Posted 30/01/2022 at 08:29:18
Having Allan do the job alone overtaxes him, if, and more likely when, gets injured we are exposed. It is a big concern they seem to be not looking for this type of midfielder. Maybe theres no-one suitable or gettable this window, and we will have to make do and battle with whoever we can get. In that case any reinforcements will be welcome. We may well change our formations to get the best out of them.
84 Posted 30/01/2022 at 09:43:36
In a functioning side then a healthy and hungry Loftus-Cheek would be a decent option. Right now, for us, Id prefer to get in a player with a better history of being available and a better track record of affecting games. Id be going all out for Dele Alli.
85 Posted 30/01/2022 at 09:52:39
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1 Posted 29/01/2022 at 11:07:39