Everton sign Coady on loan

Decent defender, dubious allegiances.

Does this mean no more loans this window?

Good player, good business, good arrangement -- if he works out, we can use the Kean money coming next June to exercise the option to buy.

Standing ovation for Thelwell. I am liking him more and more.

We just need a striker or two now!

Hopefully we can nail down a centre-forward, but the spine is looking good with mature players who will bring on the youth with a word in their shell.

Good window, for a change. I'll be backing the Director of Football and Frank, cos that Calvert-Lewin injury couldn't have come at a worse time with fixtures in our favour.

Will he crock St Virgil in the first derby?

Just please sort the centre-forward position asap. We cannot afford not to get points from next 3 games. I'm looking for at least 7.

I know Blues and Reds have swapped over in the past, but I just don't trust this one.

Forget he's a red, so were Watson and Reid when they came.

"We certainly live in hope"!

I was very keen on Tarkowski because his stats were excellent; he clearly wins a lot of his duels and that is always useful. Not so with Coady, whose stats are actually very average for defending.

He can play some decent long balls and he's a good communicator but he's slow and doesn't win an impressive amount of his battles. He will do okay I guess in a 3 but wouldn't fancy him in a 2. There's a reason he's been dropped at Wolves.

He's durable and a leader which seem to be 2 qualities Lampard has targeted this summer but as a player i'm not sure he's all that. I hope the buy price is an option and not an obligation as I think there will be better centre-backs out there for us next summer.

Guess we'll be buying rather than loaning a striker then!

Never heard those across the park complain about Rush, Fowler, Mcmanaman, Jota and the likes being Evertonians.

Let's not forget Peter Reid started out as Red and he did alright for us, so did Sheedy, Harper, Dave Watson, all former reds.

So for once can we get over the obsession of links to the dark side, if the player is good enough to come in and do a job, that will do for me.

I won't mention David Burrows – oops, I did!

Let's not forget Johnny Morrissey eh?

Not rocket science for Thelwell then, is it.

We are allowed 2 loans from other English clubs but more (I don't know the actual number sorry) from clubs abroad.

So, we can still loan 1 more (after Coady) from an English club with Vinagre coming from Sporting.

I don't care who you played for or supported – I know you will give your all for Everton...

We maybe not score a bunch of goals this season but we will be very difficult to beat! If we can get a decent replacement striker, this would a very positive window.

I really respect your opinion on this. You've become the site's new Steve Ferns!

Brian @ 17,

McManaman, when he broadcast here in America with "Sir" Ian Darke, was always very pro-Blue and I always guessed still a fan. It was very evident he still had a soft spot for Everton. I always liked the guy.

That's just an example of how kids growing up in and around Liverpool can support one club while kids, get their "break" with the other, and then they have two ways of going: hate the former, or hold affection for the former.

Coady could very well play his heart out for Everton, come to love the club, but still have affection for the red side. I don't care. These days, I only care what's best for Everton. If Coady is a talent, a leader, a hustler, and plays well, that's all that matters in my book.

Look, we have to do something. Godfrey hurt, Mina simply 100% unreliable over any run of games, and Keane seemingly not a favorite of Frank's, we need to bolster that back line.

I would like to see outgoings! We were cash-strapped and we've bought without a hell of a lot of sales. The financial health of Everton is exceedingly important! I hope to see players leaving soon who are surplus to requirements.

FFS, now what does it mean, for fuck's sake? 😀

Next thing you'll be hitting us with an off of.

He's a good player and will further strengthen our defence which is now looking a bit tasty.

I guess this is what happens when you've lived for 20+ years in Northeast Florida, aka "shitkicker land". 😜

Bill forgot to buy paper for the fax machine so we can't exchange legal papers.

Apparently, Lille haven't sent his release form so, technically, he's still their player.

Does that mean he couldn't care less if we get him or not? So does he mean... You know what, I couldn't care less, fuck it!!!! 😀😀😀

We are definitely looking at making a team that is physically and mentally stronger for starters and this signing is part of that. Now the icing on the cake will be getting a goalscorer in.

Wise man says, “Good knife with blunt blade won't cut loaf”.

Michael Keane wins a lot of his duels. His stats regarding this are particularly high. Especially aerially.

However, he can win as many headers as he wants but when he also plays a 90 minutes constantly on the verge of a match-costing mistake, or his teammates anticipating that this is the case, then it leads for a very vulnerable defence.

As for Mina, his presence at the club is largely pointless.

Coady barring an impact injury is likely to be available every week. He will bring with him a confidence missing from our team and especially our defence.

There's a lot to be said for statistics and we certainly need players who win their duels. We have that with Tarkowski.

What you won't see in statistics are the ability read the game.

The wonderful Paolo Maldini was once quoted as saying ‘if I have to make a tackle, then I have already made a mistake'.

Now I am not comparing Coady to Maldini but if his stats are low for anything other than heading then it may be because he defends using his nut, not by using brute physicality and last-ditch tackles like Sylvain Distin used to do (and was applauded for - not by me, I hasten to add).

His stats for passing are also fairly impressive and I am keen for anybody to join our starting XI who has an interest in looking after the ball and keeping possession.

Personally I am 50/50 on this one. We really need to sort out the striker situation as an absolute priority. We already have a load of centre-backs so, unless we can offload Keane (there was a rumour West Ham were interested recently, not sure if true or still the case), seems a bit odd to sign another.

Also, why are Wolves letting him go?

Godfrey was our pace in the back three. Looks like it's put up with Holgate for now.

I like the quality of the buying of this new guy. Okay, we are buying too many Wolves-linked players but, given their buying record, there's not much wrong with that. Vinagre a good buy and Coady loan is very smart.

Feels like we need another canny loan for upfront. I've always liked Arnautovic, despite everything. Could do worse – probably will.

He is pretty comfortable in possession and that will be a bonus though interestingly he played less progressive passes per match than Michael Keane last year, half the amount in fact.

Thelwell obviously knows him well, and Coady knows how to play with 3 centre-backs well. He certainly seems durable having only missed 1 Premier League game in the last 3 years.

I can see the positives and a loan mitigates the risk, but I'm just not sure he is quite as solid a defender as others seem to believe. Interested to see how he gets on.

I'm not really sure why Wolves are willing to let him go because he's still got 3 years left on his contract. But loan with option to buy at around 㾸M seems good. He was talked of as a 㿊M player recently.

Whether he's really any better than Keane or Holgate remains to be seen. But then I said that about Tarkowski and in fairness he looks a distinct improvement, although it's early days.

Apparently they want to switch to a back four and he can only be relied on in a back three. Which is clearly how Lampard wants to play, though I'd hope we aren't wedded to that system – I'd like the flexibility to shift to a 4-3-3 if need be, particularly with Gueye and Onana coming in.

At any rate, a loan with an option to buy seems like really sensible business, under the circumstances.

I would now swap Keane for Benrahma plus 㾶M and get Dennis from Watford.

Owen, Fowler and a few others supported us. He's a terrific defender.

What??? He's going to score own-goals every game, for fuck's sake!!!

We will never know as I'm not sure that such statistics were ever compiled in Italy throughout his time playing, in the way that they have been in the Premier League since 2006.

However, there is a reason why players like Maldini and his fellow countrymen, Bonucci, Chiellini, Nesta, Materazzi etc, all won major international tournaments and it wasn't because any of them had lots of pace.

And as for Chiellini and Bonucci last summer, they were faced with a talented England side with lots of pace: Sterling, Saka, Rashford, Sancho.

You could try and pick holes in their limitations – as you could with Coady. But he will bring a personality and leadership quality to Everton. And that is much needed.

He'll bring expertise in playing in a back 3 – which is the manager's preferred system.

He will bring reliability.

Good signing.

The last few weeks have seen good business and renewed hope for this season.

Yesterday's result was self-inflicted but there was some good signs, and some Chelsea lads after the game said Everton were worth at least a draw.

Stick one on Slippy next week, and all to play for.

Hopefully no more injuries, you couldn't make that up yesterday.

Not making light of mental illness but you're in the wrong sport or lifestyle to have it. I want winners: Ball, Gray... even Cahill who went against the board and Moyes and said No, no and no – we are not glass ceiling underdogs.

The point I'm making: we are Everton. Uncomfortable as it is, live by motto or carry on happy clapping.

Love you all.

Makes sense. I was wondering how we could possibly afford 㿏M…

Anything and anyone at centre-back as long as it keeps Keane and Holgate off the pitch.

Is he reluctant to play 90 minutes?

Does he have an unusually low pain threshold?

Is the good for the dressing room all together stuff just talking the talk, or is he incredibly unlucky?

Blimey, imagine if we brought in someone like Arnautovic as well, that would be one strong looking core.

The Onana deal is based on Kenwright mailing a rubber check once a year on the Lille presidents birthday

Also after the injury shambles of Saturday we clearly needed additional defenders to plug gaps. Just gutted we won't have Godfrey or Mina playing alongside them for a while yet as we would look very solid with all of them as options.

With Onana and Gueye to come, we all are just waiting for a striker option and then I think we'd all agree that this will have been a very good transfer window for the blues with a number of our weak points addressed. The spine of the team will look very solid.

Just need someone to perform an exorcism or sort out the curse we seem to be under when it comes to injuries. If…..and it's a big if….we can get Calvert Lewin back fit and firing then I'd think we could do something special this year

Forget job for the boys and he is one of us, get players in who can improve us, if he fits the bill then get him in.

We seem to have a big squad containing quite a few who are just not up to snuff or at least to Lampard's liking.

The like's of Keane and Holgate may be gone soon along with one or two midfielders given the new lad's on theverge of signing.

Terrible news about Godfrey but shit always happens to Everton early season.

Man City are just amazing and one can only see the top six finishing much the same as last season.

The money paid to get the likes of Haaland shows that city aim to stay top and if he doesn't get injured he will terrorize all defences this season.

Lampard seems fixed on playing 3 CBs and Coady sitting in the middle is one of the best in the league. He can also pick a long pass, much like Tarkowski. He isn't the quickest, so we'll have to play Holgate in the 3 every week now.

As my dad used to say, "Not an Everton player".

Let's not forget that Holgate is still Holgate. He played really well yesterday -- but he also made the mistake that cost us a point when he stepped away from marking Chilwell. A successful back 3 requires three players who are safe on the ball and can pass all over the pitch, and that ain't Holgate.

I would expect the starters will eventually be (right to left) Coady, Tarkowski and our most talented defender, Mykolenko, with Vinagre or McNeil stepping into Myko's place on left wing.

Andy #57,

If Mina were anything besides unlucky, Frank wouldn't keep starting him and his status wouldn't be so high among his teammates. After each injury, he has initially refused to come off the pitch, and he has never backed away an inch from anyone, so his warrior mentality should be unquestioned. He is simply fragile and unfortunate.

Onana is 6'-5" (Frank says he'll be a "big player" for us, which probably wasn't intentional humor), and the other rumored striker is 6'-7". Guess Frank is looking for altitude as well as attitude.

So as Evertonians, give the lad a chance. Not unreasonable?

Who has decided any player who wants to play for Everton is an unwanted player?

ToffeeWeb, is getting interesting these days, and some interesting views regarding Everton's chances of success.

Next is Forest and victory

The best weekly entertainment, is TW!

Hopefully some, many, will believe Everton will beat Forest.

Time to stick together, as Evertonians.

Seamus is a magnificent man and a worthy club captain, but he is not the kind of leader to roar and collar and elevate the players' effort in difficult moments.

We will now have two of that brand of leader in Tarkowski and Coady. And that makes us unquestionably better.

Man City paid a reported 㿟M for Haaland so, at today's prices, quite a snip.

Mind you, we had him for trials but our three youth team coaches decided he was never going to make it and let him go.

We're not going to see Godfrey again until the New Year at least unfortunately; so, out of Keane and Holgate, I would definitely choose Holgate to partner Tarkowski and Coady. It's certainly not ideal, but let's hope playing with two leaders stops him from having his lapses of switching off.

We might not have too much fire-power up front for now, but we are trending towards the right direction, ie extremely tough to beat, both at home and away.

Priority Two: Stop the opposition creating.

Priority Three: Have an outlet up front.

Priority Four: Get a clinical finisher.

Simple game, football...

Another leader in the team.

And, just let me have this moment, but I did suggest this one some 18 months ago!!

Andy Crooks - re Mina. I like him too. I just think he's one of those players who, as soon as he feels something, that's him. Shame as he's a good player and if you watch some of the online footage, a bit of a character in the dressing room.

Everton oh we love Everton (to the tune of Alouette).

Neville Southall

Gary Stephens

Psycho Pat

Kevin Rats

Derek Mountfield

Peter Reid

Tricky Trev

Andy Gray

Graham Sharp

Paul Bracewell

Kevin Sheedy (I now faint like a teenager at a music concert)

But seriously, to your point. Fighters and winners. Every single one of them. Apart from Sheedy. He just waved his magic wand of a left foot.

Glass ceiling and acceptance of mediocrity is not my Everton.

I was pleasantly sort of okay with the performance at the weekend although I think we needed a stand-in Mick Lyons to be a makeshift centre-forward, just as a target for the others to run off onto the 2nd ball. Sticking Gordon there was hopeless. Sort of Mina character, awkward but a handful.

Come on, Frank, have a think, who is a bloody handful? Gordon and Co are providers or speed merchants who feed off the 2nd balls to run on to, not to be used as targets.

I agree, Christine – Gray and Gordon need a pivot point to play to and play off. Everton have struggled for years and seem to have given up in finding a centre-forward who can do that and get in the right position, with the required finish from both head and foot.

Both Calvert-Lewin and Rondon provided a makeshift pivot point, but neither have the consistent positioning and finish for a Premier League striker. Add injury and the situation is hopeless.

Videos of those centre-forwards that Everton are supposedly after are heavily edited, something that Kenwright should know about when he is watching them?

Everton have still got one of the highest wages percentages in the Premier League, beaten only by Man Utd who are reported as paying Ronaldo an absurd 𧺶, 000 per week, Medical Services and those involved in transfers being the main culprits, in Everton's case.

What it all adds up to is no change… The new DoF has to be able to turn round all that first.

For those obsessed with his allegiances growing up, he's from Sin Tellins. Grew up in Haydock, thus making him a Yicker. Could have supported that lot or us or Man Utd or Man City. Or, God forbid, Wigan Rugby League

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Every professional footballer plays for the wage packet. And t'was ever thus. Welcome, Conor.

I'll be chuffed if Connor Coady comes to Everton. He's not only a good centre-half, he's a leader and a fighter. Him and Tarkowski will be a good start in getting a team with more hard knocks in it. Long overdue!

I'm impressed with Kevin's and Frank's transfer business so far (with more good stuff to come, I think) and I thought we saw the beginnings of it on Saturday. Not only Tarkowski. Sitting in the Gladwys Street end of the Upper Bullens, it was good to see Patterson snarling away at any of the Chelsea players who tried to "rough up the new lad" – Well done, lad.

Alan, if he grew up in Haydock, that'll do me. A village with a good working class background. Mining, engineering… and working in Pilks! He'll be hard alright; and do us just fine.

I tried to answer a couple of times over the last couple of days – but of course we had this problem with the posts. Re the hospital. I was a little upset as I still don't know how I am. They told me the tests are now complete but they have to analyse the findings and I should know the result by hopefully tomorrow, fingers crossed!

With the game on Sunday morning, I never expected to hear your screams but, like me and most other posters, you seem fairly impressed with our improvement and it will only get better with the expected signings.

One thing about the hospital visit that concerned me. I was lying almost fully naked on a bed by the Cat-Scan, and four attractive girls (nurses) were gently fondling me. I knew I should be enjoying this… but I couldn't remember why!!! Gosh, I am old! Will let you know my result as soon as I find out. Take care of yourself.

I am still hoping to get to Auckland this Christmas so, if I get ill, there will be some upside at least!

I know ol' biscuit legs won't be available much but jeez, that is a mouthwatering prospect for me. Shielded by Onana and Gana… wow.

Coady definitely does not sound yicker to me though – is he putting on the scouse? If so, I'd love to know where he's taking lessons so I can avoid the usual snide I get at matches!

Add Onana and Gana in the engine room and we will no longer be a soft touch.

We have just signed Dwight McNeil on a 5-year contract, why not a 3-year contract and then, after 18 months if he looks the real deal, offer him a new contract? But, if he doesn't turn out to be the player we hoped, then he will be in the same position as we were with the others I listed.

So, if we want shut of Keane and Gomes and Allan, then it will only happen if the deal is financially beneficial to the player… I mean, whoever takes a pay cut?

Allan may move as he only has 12 months left on his contract so, even if a club offers slightly less money but a 3-year deal, he would be foolish to turn that down.

I like the look of how we're shaping up, though and let's see what we look like at the end of the transfer window. Frank did say, though, that he expects it to take 2 or 3 windows before we can build a squad that he fancies, to challenge for top eight places.

We're not going to be a soft touch anymore, as mentioned above, and that had to be Lampard's remit going into this season. That and a striker. This bloke Sasa Kalajdzic looks a handful at 6'-7" and did well in Germany. Plenty of top clubs looking at him apparently and for 㾻M it sounds like a good punt. He's also 25 so the right age.

You're right about Keane, but football parlance and managers (sorry, coaches) these days are too aloof and think they're too sophisticated to try something like that.

Back in the '70s ,it was common for centre-halves to play up front in times of crisis or seeking a late goal. Larry Lloyd, Kenny Burns, Mick Lyons, John Hurst, Dennis Smith etc.

No-one was too proud to be deployed up front, in fact they relished a chance to show the forwards how to be brave and stick their nut in where it hurts.

Still painful memories of our Mad Mick getting thrown up front and I can't recall he scored from that position. Most or all his goals from at the back although the two he got at Plymouth with Latchford out in '75 maybe he started that match as a striker.

I was there but someone on here may shed some light. Maybe the game is too fast nowadays to try that but it hasn't stopped Rondon who somehow earns a living with us as a striker.

One error, one goal, that's how the cookie crumbles in the Premier League.

However, what I saw on Saturday evening gives me a feeling that we are potentially a Top 10 side. We shall see!

I appreciate our FFP situation, but the media seem to be feeding us spurious updates on transfers:

(1) Onana having his medical Saturday morning, then it was Sunday. Now he's supposed to have signed, so where's the press release?

(2) Gana as above

3 signings sometime this week, Onana, Gana, and Coady.

I can foresee 1 or 2 signings from Chelsea once Werner leaves and a replacement found, will produce a domino effect. 1 permanent deal and 1 loan. I think I'm right that you cannot loan 2 players from the same side?

We need a striker big time, and hopefully Thelwell is doing his best in that department without the attention seeking Kenwright milking the limelight. Pity he wasn't forthcoming when we were in the mire (and still are) last season, as well as our drastic financial situation he (with others) created.

Any chance we can get these done today?

Open the Finch Farm barrier, make sure we have stewards there making sure the usual trip hazards are out of the way, and get them signed up today.

Then focus on the striker, please!

A bit harsh to blame Godfrey for the penalty seeing as though he went off in the 18th minute and they scored it at 45+9'!

Thanks for the clarification.

So Vinagre, although on loan, will only count towards the 8, and not the 2 loans from English clubs?

Hopefully, having already played Chelsea, they may be more amenable to deal with us on a permanent or loan deal, or both, once Werner's replacement is or has been identified.

If we are not able to spend as we have been doing, then loans are a way of providing us with a chance to strengthen our squad for this season.

The problem is that he has absolutely no mobility whatsoever. He can only run in a straight line. He'd be a statue up there and that's not what we need.

I was very impressed with the pressing from Anthony Gordon on Saturday. We had a few instances of winning the ball back in good areas. Patterson did this also.

That bodes well but the striker coming in needs to compliment that.

Solid, reliable, consistent defender. Like Tarkowski, not top class but having a reliable centre-back pairing should help steady the ship.

Now, let's bring in some goalscorers!

If Onana can be a box-to-box goalscoring midfielder, brilliant, if he comes. I don't like the fact he couldn't agree personal terms with West Ham. I wouldn't pay over the odds on a young, unproven player. Avoid the Moise Kean mistakes.

Yes, it was a clumsy tackle, but my point was that Godfrey's error caused the problem in the first place.

That aside, I hope Godfrey has a speedy recovery, albeit months not weeks 🤞

If we get these new signings and don't get rid of the flotsam, we'll end up, once more, with a bloated, expensive squad.

He will reportedly consider around 㿷k per week and is on a free transfer.

I didn't realise quite how much they love what he brings to the club. Not just his leadership and reliability, but as a player. Not one Wolves fan was saying "get rid, he's shite" or "past his best".

They all seem to want what's best for him, but they'd be gutted if he left – and not just in a sentimental nostalgic Spurs Dele Alli thing, he's seen as a massively positive influence. And boy do we need some of those.

I take on board that he's not the best central defender in the country, but we have nobody who is rated by our fans in the way Coady is by the Wolves lot. And they've finished above us four times out of five since they got promoted, so they're objectively a better team in recent seasons.

I also remember him lobbing George Wood in the Anfield derby for a spectacular own goal. I think we drew 2-2 and Garry Stanley and Mcdermott got sent off for handbags.

Yes, that Anfield one was painful but thankful the late great Andy King rescued a point in fact he scored 3 times in consecutive derbies.

Point I'm making: Did Lyons ever get thrown up front and score?

King Andy didn't rescue a point as we were more than a match for them in that 2-2 draw. Should have won!

I don't think he ever scored when he was thrown up front, but a distant memory has me thinking he started out as a forward and was converted to centre-back, possibly when Latchford signed for us… but I am probably mistaken.

The idea about giving 5-year contracts as opposed to 3-year is so the amortization of the transfer fee can be spread over a longer period of time.

For example, if Onana cost 㿊M, that would be a cost of 㾶M a year in the Profit & Loss account over a 3-year period but only ٤M a year over a 5-year period; hence we have a bigger transfer budget.

Or, taking Richarlison's 㿨M into account, that would give us a transfer budget of 𧷤M assuming all the other costs that caused us FFP problems have been resolved, such as the cost of lawnmowers at Finch Farm and extravagant wages for non-contributing players.

On the subject of the incoming, anyone know what the situation is regarding getting a visa for Gueye and Onana? Other teams don't seem to have any problem bringing in foreign players.

He joined the club as a forward straight from school but was converted to a centre-half.

Mick was often utilised as a forward under Billy Bingham. He got into double figures in 74-75.

Not someone that captures the imagination of rival fans, but him and Tarkowski are players that will fight till the end, and will not be something rival players will fancy at all.

Decent on the ball, good leader, doesn't miss games. Shame that Godfrey got injured as the back 5 with him in it, a re-tooled midfield is looking more promising than a month a go. Powder-puff upfront, and that is going to hurt until we have someone in.

Must have something lined up on Broja. I guess there is a chain of transfer deals waiting to happen.

Belotti would probably be a good signing. Similar standard to Calvert-Lewin – not quite top class but still a good player.

I suspect he is holding out for Champions League football with someone next season – a more modest club like Marseille, Leverkusen, Atletico or Seville perhaps.

If he comes to us, it will be because no-one in that category has come in for him or we've offered bigger wages.

If all the mooted signings arrive (especially Broja or Kalajdzic) it will, for me, be the most encouraging few weeks we've had in the transfer market in years. Everyone signed with a clear strategy and team structure in mind. No prima donna star players and (touch wood) no sick notes.

Got to hand it to Lampard and Thelwell. They have improved our defence greatly with very little cash spent. Two good centre-backs in their prime. Both leaders who know how to defend.

With Patterson and Mykolenko as full-backs, we could even go four at the back instead of three.

Sometimes just one signing can make a massive difference to a team. Well in this window, we've got two signings who will massively change the face of our defence for the better. Two fighters, two captains and two decent footballers.

A big 'if' surrounds Mina but let's see what the medics say about the injury. Two fine young full-backs, with support from Coleman and Vinagre.

If we get the signings of Gueye and Onana completed, then the whole defence and engine room will have improved vastly.

The lads up front might well be joined and improved before the end of this window. If that's the case, then our last season's travails ought to be left behind and we can begin to improve our standing in the Premier League.

I can't wait for our next home match to see our two new central defenders!

As much as I'd like Belotti at Everton, I can't see it happening. Yes, I also feel he will want European football.

Robert, I can't see any similarity with Calvert-Lewin, he isn't as good with his head from crosses but can strike a ball much better.

I posted this about Belotti on another thread:

'He has apparently agreed terms with Roma but they are struggling to move players on before he can be registered'.

He is a good striker and works hard for the team with good movement and there is a chance he could be stolen from under Roma's nose for a big enough wage.

I agree, he would probably prefer to have European footy but he is at the age (28) when he may be looking for 3- or 4-year pension type deal on a 㿲+k a week wages?

I remember him playing as a forward (I was watching back then), but it was always as a needs-must fill-in as I understood it – we knew him as a centre-half in his primary role.

I didn't know he'd had the earlier conversion. It was more common back then, though still happens sometimes.

Despite what's suggested in the thread above, I thought he actually did score when being moved forward late on in games, but perhaps I remember that wrongly.

I understand the principles of amortisation when buying a player, but your assertion that selling Richarlison for 㿨M gives us a transfer chest of 𧷤M sounds highly dubious to me. Surely, taken by itself, it gives us just 㿨M plus associated wages?

Then he went on to say we are expecting Broja to come in on Wednesday, not sure about the last one, but he's been spot on with the other three.

I was asking the question of Lyons up front. Remember very early '70s Spurs knocking us out of the FA Cup at Goodison with him up front. Spurs had a banner saying Chivers turns 'em to jelly. Never knew what it meant until I was a bit older.

I read Onana's and Coady's medicals are now done.

Any idea about Gueye's medical?

No news on Gueye though yet, but great to have these two in the door and with the potential for playing on Saturday. Going to need them!

Apparently, Gueye has done the first part of his medical in Paris; now just waiting on visa details to be sorted before he can fly over and finish his medical.

This isn't damaged goods and he isn't permanently stained for having served the Red Shite. Coady, Tarkowski and Mina would make a solid, well-experienced back three for the time Mina is healthy.

I will stop calling him 'Choady' now.

Jeez I know I'm impatient AF, but he was at the damn stadium on Saturday FFS! Stop with the pomp and circumstance and please just officially announce he's ours.

God the production of it all! Bill Kenwright Productions presents, "Onana, the Drawn out Acquisition".

One Onana, two Onana, three Onana, Four

The lad was here on Saturday, posing for photos with the lads in the Main Stand, and Frank has said he's our player. So it is a matter of a bit of patience.

I know in the past with Kenwright in charge, players were "on the point of signing" but they had to leg it home to feed the dog. I think now, our club is waiting till everything is signed, sealed and the photos are taken at Finch Farm before they announce the transfer in.

I prefer it this way, than when the Silver Fox walked in, "was signed up", then walked out again!

"Our Onana scores a goal,...
lets go and make it more"

Rotten luck for Mina and Godfrey but the reaction was a little quicker than it's been in the past. Cody's signing was a no brainer.

Holgate got better and better under this coaching team as we fought the drop. So much so that his goal line clearances assist and winner at Leicester went a long way to keeping us up.

Iwobi has shown as dramatic an improvement as I have seen in a player. I 'm happy to eat humble pie regarding both these players. I'd written them both off. Neither put a foot wrong Saturday.

Let's hope the staff can get the same improvement out of Gomes and Davies.

Rotten luck for Mina and Godfrey but the reaction was a little quicker than it's been in the past. Coady's signing was a no-brainer.

"O na na, O na na, na, na, O na na...na, na, na, na"

Actually some quite poignant lyrics there!

They make Brian the Snail look like Usain Bolt. Dougal wouldn't put up with it, I can tell you.

Now where's that sugar cube?

Coady is a solid reliable leader… or another Ashley Williams?

Lampard is a great hungry young manager… or Lampard's record is terrible and a couple of losses and he's under pressure?

We've had a great transfer window… or we have no goals or strikers?

Moshiri has to go… or fair play, he's building that superb stadium?

Gana is absolutely Champions League quality… or he's over the hill?

We have lots of good options now but what's our best formation?

Gordon is the best up-and-coming youngster… or his end product is awful?

Personally I'm pretty optimistic on most things!

No debate though – Tarkowski looks quality!

Coady

I think this will prove to be a great signing. One of those where we wish we'd picked them up earlier (eg, Distin, Martyn).

We clearly need some options up front so I hope there's room to bring someone in after Coady, Gana and Onana.

One banana two banana three banana four

Four bananas make a bunch and so do many more

Over hill and highway the banana buggy's go

Comin' on to bring you the Banana Splits Show

Making up a mess of fun,

Making up a mess of fun

Lots of fun for every one

Tra la la la la la la tra la la la la la la

Tra la la la la la la tra la la la la la la

Four banana three banana two banana one

All the bananas playin in the bright yellow sun

Flippin like a pancake, poppin like a cork

Fleagle, Bingo, Drooper and Snork

Making up a mess of fun

Making up a mess of fun

Lots of fun for every one

Tra la la la la la la tra la la la la la la

Tra la la la la la la tra la la la la la la

Two banana, four banana, one banana, three

Swingin like a bunch of monkeys hangin from a tree

Hey there everybody won't you come along and see

How much like banana splits everyone can be.

Making up a mess of fun

Making up a mess of fun

Lots of fun for every one

Tra la la la la la la tra la la la la la la

Tra la la la la la la tra la la la la la la

Tra la la la la la la tra la la la la la la

Tra la la la la la la tra la la la la la la

Options, when we had none before.

Deals for players when we thought we were skint.

Transfer window success is only judged by performance on the pitch, if we struggle people will say tge signings are shite.

We have Defenders who can defend.

Gana is better than any midfield player we have.

Gordon is by no means the finished article. But he makes things happen and can't get any worse, hopefully alot better.

Moshiri is going nowhere until that stadium is built.

I don't agree with the lampard quote tho. We can't let a couple of bad results blind us to the fact that this is a big job rebuilding this squad.
There will be bad results I'm certain. With young players like myko, Patterson, Gordon, onona, mcneil they will make mistakes.
But if overall progress is being made we as fans must see the bigger picture, let's have some stability

Ray - I'm always concerned when a signing only arrives because we're paying more than the club he really wants to join.

Probably academic because I haven't seen us linked to him.

Thanks a lot, pal.

I was being very liberal with the confetti there and using the comparison that, if you sold a player for 㿨M, that goes straight into the accounts as income. But, if you buy a player or players on a 5-year contract, you can amortize that purchase price over the period of the contract.

So Richarlisons sale theoretically gives us a 𧷤M opportunity... but, in reality, some of that income will have to offset the excessive wages paid to bring us back to profitability.

I would hope however that, with James, Delph, Sigurdsson and Tosun gone, that should give us a 㿀M boost in the Profit and Loss department.

I now expect Moyes to call Kenwright and ask for Michael Keane or Mason Holgate. My money's on Keane, as Frank didn't bring him on versus Chelsea. Making sure he didn't get injured?

No doubt the fee will go towards a centre-forward – won't it?

That wouldn't be beyond the realms of possibility, Jack.

As many have said, Holgate was solid on those corner bombardments against Chelsea. On the back of much improved of performances and attitude at the end of last season.

What next? Thunderbirds are Go! The new version is not a patch on the original, or is it only me?

Be glad when the timely arrival of all of our newbies is officially announced. Michy Batshuayi getting linked again, not sure to be honest, he has had many loans (like Barkley) and not impressed; otherwise, there would have been follow-ups surely.

Still hoping for Broja and maybe a foreigner up front! 🤞💙

The new lad song should be the chorus from the song Freed from Desire by Gala:

Amadou Onana nah nah nah nah nah.

The Klangers would be quite apt I think… On a planet far, far away…..

You're right about Thunderbirds.

Agree regarding Broja and another, probably have to be loans but perhaps with an option-to-buy clause.

Original Thunderbirds every time.

Amadou do do - kick the RS in the knee

Amadou do do - tell the RS to Fuckoffy

GALA - Freed From Desire [Official Video]

Wanker Trump will be here in Aberdeenshire on the 21st and we will have to stump up the fucking cost of police.

Expect hundreds to be protesting at him playing golf on his massive loss-making course at Menie!

I think Bill used his Thunderbird 4 to scan the dock before it was filled in, looking for the Arteta money

Parker, however, turned us down quite a few years back.

Welcome to THE best club in the world, Conor!!

Si, it's official then. Welcome aboard, Conor Coady.

Just remember, Goodison is on the Light side of Sefton Park and not the Dark Side!!

Decent character from what Lage said and, with Tarkowski, that is a back line with some muscle. I did like how Tarkowski went to snuff out danger not feeling stuck to his position a few times.

If he and Coady can develop an understanding this could be an accidental move of substantial impact.

Two tough-as-nails centre-backs now. One a scouser, about to see the light.

Who doesn't want some hard-ass Scouser in our back line? I don't care if he was a Red, he ain't any longer!

Let's gooooo!

Onana, Gueye, and please this Sasa striker 6'-7" beast.

Turning into a pretty damn good window for us.

Also, offload some wages super fast if you can, Mr. Thelwell.

Seems genuinely pumped to be picked up by Frank and Thelwell. Gonna be a good signing this!

Getting worried about Onana and Gueye now, hope they're not having second thoughts!

Desperate for at least one striker.

He might have grown up as a Kopite but his language shows he understands Everton.

196 appearances out of a possible 198 in the past several seasons. Alien to us and our made-of-glass squad.

Alongside Tarkowski, brings leadership and an element of commitment we've been lacking. I think we're going to like both.

Seamus is respected as a genuine footballer and person. He has worn the armband with pride. But he's not a captain in the sense that these 2 are.

I anticipate more than a few rollickings being dished out this season. Some of our players might not be used to it, but then they'll have to up their game and attitude or face the truth.

The management team starting to put their own stamp on the squad.

Welcome, Conor.

EXCELLENT. Good business. Good player. Great leader. We can use the Kean money next summer to complete the purchase.

Well done from Thelwell, who actually got this started before the Chelsea game, when some said we didn't need another centre-back. Ol' Kevin is psychic.

It amazes me that anyone doubts Frank and Kevin will get us a striker. Of course they will. The only question is who and how soon.

Really need this signing plus preferably two front men. Gana needs to lower his wage demands as that is looking 50/50 to go through. Who knows.

Two very rugged CBs with bags of Prem Experience for no transfer fee. Pretty smart business.

Pressure is on Coady to perform to get the permanent deal. All good.

The Belgian lad had been linked for days, had a medical Saturday and still waiting on confirmation

Guye been linked for ages in well advanced talks and nothing

Very wierd

Thelwell & Lampard making a positive difference. Things looking better, just need a striker or 2.

We have now brought in Coady and Tarkowski (two Premier League captains) for virtually nothing, have Gueye joining to add even more leadership to the middle of the park, and will use the Richarlison money to cover two youngsters with great potential in McNeil and Onana.

We have also brought in Vinagre as cover at left-back and seen Sigurdsson, Tosun and Delph leave. If we can just add a striker, we will have the best and most balanced squad we have had for years and all achieved with minimal outlay. Thelwell and Co, take a bow for a remarkable turnaround!

We are putting a physically tough no-nonsense side together. We are going to be more resilient and hard to beat. I think we are a good striker away from being a top half and a cup with some luck side.

We've had more false dawns than a planet orbiting a three-star system. This time, the difference is the club is concentrating on building from strong foundations. They are doing it the right way round.

We now just need to find the finance to get the striker Frank and Kevin want and then we can sit back and watch a proper, consistent football team.

I blame all this sun it's burning my brain cells at a faster rate than normal. Will have to stop sitting out in it, hour after hour. Oh the joys of retirement. Sun, a quiet garden and a good book x heaven.

Good interview and appears really up for it.

Going back to Thunderbirds for a moment - who would Brains be at Goodison Park?

Any idea who bonked Lady Penelope! :) About Brains, I think you could rule the Board out!

As for Coady, someone was saying he came from Haydock, so he's a Yicker, not a Scouser! But wherever he's come from, I'm chuffed to bits that he's come to us.

A good defence in the making now, with a good midfield to come, as well. Brilliant. And who knows who we might get before the end of this window. It's got the making of the best in years!

“He loves Everton. He loves everything about the Football Club. He was running up and down the back room when I told him I was signing here."

Can he play up front? Sign him up!

I want to see Onana and Gueye signings completed, and hopefully a striker before Saturday.

I have to say the DOF and Lampard are working in tandem, and the shape of the team is looking a lot better.

If only we could get rid of Mina. The guy is a complete joke.

Have to say just watched his interview on the official site and he really does appear to be made up he signed.

He's ready for Saturday. Probably Coady, Tarkowski and Holgate. Everyone same as Chelsea with Rondon replacing Gray.

God knows where our Belgian and Senegalese midfielders are... Get them and a striker in and I'll feel a bit easier this season.

I think that means he's Welsh? But then I looked and he's listed as an English CB.

I always thought a Woolly was someone from Wales near and about Liverpool?

Where, and I laugh as I type, in world is "Pie Land"??? Too damn funny!

Oh God I wish more Americans read TW. The education is second to none!

As a Newtonian, the stand in banter comment is just a terminology that people are known as from the neighbouring town of Haydock, not sure what they call us but it's not an insult on Haydock people. It's something to do with back in the old days of canals so Yicker must have something to do with the name of a haydocker.

Newton, as you know, is a close neighbouring town to Haydock, but does not come under the same district.

I was just having banter with someone saying he was from Newton, no insult intended my friend.

I was actually born at my nans in Haydock so part Yicker myself :-)

As for the player himself, anyone with any doubts on the player, have a read on the BBC website, and read the comments from the Wolves fans. I've not seen a bad comment yet, and most are gutted he has been allowed to leave.

If Conor comes from Haydock, he's a Yicker, but anyone from old Lancashire is a Woollyback.

Some might call Welshmen Sheepsha....s but that's a bit unfair. Us from Liverpool are called... very nice people!

OK Wigan = Pie Eaters.

Haydock = Yicker.

Old Lancashire = Woollyback.

Liverpool = God's Chosen.

Got it!

Other places use the term in different ways I think.

If we can get the 2 midfield signings over the line then we're just one striker off a really decent window (Richarlison exit aside)

We have been suspect at corners and free kicks for a few seasons now and hopefully things will get better in that regard.

We are bolstering midfield, but we definitely need a prolific forward or two, or else there is no point in mass defence hoping for the odd goal, that would spell another relegation battle.

I think we are having a good window so far… let's make it a great one. COYB

That must make me ‘Gods Chosen' at birth!

The January signings plus the arrival of Vinagre on loan has strengthened the wing-back positions. All that remains now is the forward line which of course will be the most challenging area to improve. But, given the poor financial position and the weak squad they inherited, Thelwell and Lampard have made decent progress.

Singing...Oh ah...O...nana

Singing...O...na...na...na...na

Phenomenal upward trajectory since he arrived with the momentum gathering. The team defended every set piece with ease on Saturday and with Coady will continue to be robust with leaders.

Fingers crossed Gueye (the best defensive performer for many years) and Onana are on board then Lampard knows the agenda, 1 or 2 potent finishers and bring it on!

La Liga seem to be stopping them from registering their signings due to FFP…

Good Luck, mate.

We never do anything quick, do we? I expect Holgate to stay and provide cover, with Coleman and Mykolenko as further backups. Mina and Keane have had it, I'm afraid!! (Thanks to Count Arthur Strong for that one). Keane, to go, this window, and Mina in January or on a free come next summer... Branthwaite to come back next summer, to challenge for a starting place.

As regards wingbacks, we have Patterson and Coleman for the right with Iwobi as emergency back-up I guess. On the left, we have Mykolenko and Vinagre with Nkounkou as emergency back-up.

In the centre of the park as defensive cover, it should be Onana and Gueye, with Allan, Davies and Gbamin as cover. Gomes is surely leaving.

Attacking midfield will be from Alli, Iwobi, Doucoure and Warrington.

Forwards will be Gordon, McNeil, Townsend, Gray, Mills

Centre-forward will be Calvert-Lewin – unless we cash in if the barcodes stump up 㿨M – Rondon, hopefully Broja, or we take a punt on one of Sasa Kaladjic, Dennis, Batshuyi et al.

A first team in a 3-4-3 of:

Pickford,

Godfrey, Coady, Tarkowski,

Patterson, Mykolenko, Onanana, Gueye,

Iwobi, Gordon, Calvert-Lewin.

Vinagre and McNeil appeared out of left field, and were both done within 48 hours.

Onana materialized in similarly swift fashion – although he hasn't been announced, everything I've read says the contracts are done and dusted and we're just waiting on one last piece of paperwork from Lille.

A week ago Coady wasn't on anyone's radar, and now he's an Everton player (in spite of some fearing Wolves would play hardball after injuries increased our need).

A nice change of pace, and makes me confident that we'll get some attacking reinforcements through the door next.

What we need now is at least 2 strikers and a non-jittery keeper. Well done to all involved. Now get the striker in pronto.

I'm curious to see how Coady does. I don't think he will be as good as Tarkowski, though his distribution is usually good, especially his ability to switch play.

My worry is that this may be a move based more on personality than actual ability and as such has the potential to go the way of Ashley Williams (it's difficult to be a leader when you're the one making mistakes). But there's many positives here and for Thelwell to bring in Tarkowski and Coady without paying any transfer fees looks to be very handy business.

A huge factor would seem to be that neither Tarkowski nor Coady have missed more than a handful of games over the last 3 seasons. Having dependable and available centre-backs to form a partnership should be useful and help eradicate the uncertainty that has plagued our defense for a while now.

One thing I predicted when the window opened was that we shouldn't pay much attention to speculation, because Thelwell had a reputation for not letting information leak out on his targets. He signed a number of players in New York that nobody had heard a word about.

Obviously that's not going to happen in the Premier League with all the press coverage, but I'm not surprised that we didn't hear rumors until the deals were almost done.

Some of the business out of left field, as Bill says... but left field to us. Who knows how long he's been working on them?

A definite uptick in activity though, for sure. Now for the front of the team...

A serious spine to the team with the midfield. Just need the hardest part done now up front. Don't want to see Rondon anywhere near the bench if possible.

Thelwell must have done his homework and good business terms for the new additions brought in so far.

It's real and Everton are shaping up well, a good sense of being and ready to beat Villa this Saturday.

Villa looked in a mess at Bournemouth. Slippy calling out Mings in the press too. Not a happy camp, I'm thinking.

Give us a centre-forward and let's bring back 3 points.

I agree that we should settle on a defensive three made up of players who rarely miss games. Whether the 3rd man is Mykolenko or Holgate, we should stick with him for a good run of games. I don't see the point in playing Mina for half a game out of four.

Him and Tarkowski bring steel leadership, commitment and proper defending to Everton and I'm chuffed. Something to build on.

Frank is taking us in the right direction and I'm convinced he will get a striker in before the deadline. I love Mina but we need to sell him, Gomes and Allan.

The need to sell is not as easy as it sounds – we need to sell them because they are not good enough but on big wages to boot. Who wants to buy average players on top players salary?

Totally agree with you though.

Wasn't a certain manager from not too far away one of the original banana splits.

Just asking for a mate.

Amazingly, nobody wants to put a bid in for Gomes, Gbamin, Allan, Mina, Rondon or Keane. They are on big wages and have not played well for a while.

Buffalo Bill (Coady)?

Well as long as he can stop the sharpshooters consistently, and stay match fit, I think his pairing with Tarkowski will be able to handle most situations.

I think he's been brought in because he's very comfortable in a back three. As soon as Everton signed Vinagre, I think it was pretty obvious that this was going to be Lampard's preferred system this season.

Go and get Gueye, and then go and get a couple of forwards. If we don't sign Broja, then I'm certain that Billy Gilmour will join, and maybe that could well see Allen, Gbamin, and Gomes out the door?

Curious to see how our starting XI evolves in next few weeks, presumably there will be forwards options bought in too. I wonder if Hudson-Odoi might be an option? Very good player potentially I think if given a run of games. And I'd love Broja but that looks less likely now unless Chelsea bring in another striker or two.

Not huge wages but no-one is banging on the door for Tom Davies either.

Play shite and you stay at the club until your contract ends, before leaving a very, very rich man, and also a free agent. Play well and you get an even better contract, or get sold for big money, which means an even bigger contract.

I've seen many great boxing champions lose their desire once they have achieved their goals, but a lot of very average footballers are now that rich, that it must surely interfere with their desire.

Anyway, I'm from St Helens and the proddy half of my family lived in Haydock – about 2 miles from us. Their accent was completely different to ours and very noticeable. I can still spot a Yicker after 10 seconds conversation – it's a bit like Wigan but not quite.

Yicker has never in my memory been a term of contempt (unlike Wool) and wouldn't be taken as such by a Yicker. By the way, Wiganers are not called Pie-Eaters because they eat lots of pies. It's because they broke the picket lines at the pits in the depression and had to eat “humble pie”.

As for Coady, I'm made up we've got him and Tarkowski but it's tempered by the loss of Godfrey – he would've been the ideal 3rd centre-back.

He wasn't just talking about football, he talked about his attitude to life. very important for us to have a lad. like him, not only an England class defender but a leader and a fighter. He made it clear he was buzzing to come here. (Isn't his lad an Evertonian and trains at Finch Farm?)

I think it's going to be difficult indeed to shift the players on large wages, and Joe's right about Tom Davies. He must be on 㿞,000 or more, a week. So who would buy, or even take him on loan, Gbamin? Possibly Gomes, but I don't see a mad rush coming for them.

We're getting players in (all of whom I'm made up with) and we're doing the business very pragmatically!! Mind you, as much as I can't stand Bill Kenwright at the helm of our club; he's proved to be a good negotiator.

We've got 3 weeks yet, so I'm happy to see out those weeks, before criticising or panicking. So far we've done excellent business. I don't see it stopping just yet.

I went into Haydock a lot in the course of my job.

I was always tickled by that outdoor... The Thirsty Yicker. Is it still there?

It's changed a lot! Good people, the Yickers.

I have not seen anything of the young Belgium midfield player but Lampard seems very excited about his signing.

But what the hell is happening over Gueye? We have heard for over a week the deal is agreed, just small minor things to be ironed out... well, it looks like maybe they aren't minor given the time it's taking.

I know someone suggested they are waiting for his visa to come through. I don't understand why there would be a problem getting his visa. He is a regular for his country and a regular for PSG so why would there be a hold-up over a visa?

Even more worrying – no movement on a striker. Until we get a striker or two in, I think we will struggle. Had we had a half-decent striker on Saturday, we may have got something out of that game.

I am sure Lampard and Thelwell are well aware of our need for strikers, but come on, lads – we have had nearly 6 weeks since Richarlison left!!

I think it's a bit of patience needed, re us getting a goalscorer in. Probably lots of games of poker going on between clubs, players and agents... then there's the lawyers!!

I forgot to laud him for the fact that, despite playing for the other lot and Wolves and being a died-in-the-wool Reds supporter, he's actually somehow "allowed" his son to follow the true path and be an Evertonian.

This despite the fact his son can't be too old so has only seen mediocrity and hurt with regard to us. Now I've never played for Everton but one of my sons being a Red Shite?

Absolutely no way, no how, not never!

There must be a reason for this but it's not only Everton. We'll get someone in I'm 100% sure – I just hope he is a good fit and not a panic buy.

BTW, Sunderland are still chasing Broadhead – is he not worth a run? He's 24 isn't he? If he's not good enough now he should be moved on surely?

Conor Coady was a lad who believed in his own ability. He was offered a very good contract by Liverpool but declined it as he knew he would be sitting on the bench for much of the length of the contract. He went instead to a lower league club, Huddersfield Town I think, and worked his way up to Wolves and a few England caps.

I think he will fit in well with Tarkowski and they will have the defence organised a lot better than it has been the last few years. The centre-midfield is getting bulked up so we are going in the right direction.

Hopefully the striker or strikers we need will be sorted by the end of the transfer window and we can all relax a little while Lampard and Thelwell get on with the job of restoring some pride in the club.

Yeah - just saw the Broadhead update thanks Dave - that must've been published just as I asked the question.

Anyone got anymore questions they want me to bring up?

Like, what's the story re Nkounkou?

Is Gbamin really fit??

And why aren't we looking at Ivan Tomy?? (Sp?)

Liam Keen comment: Conor Coady departs Wolves as a club legend

Now that is what I call an endorsement.

You can't have enough players who want to give their all, whilst helping others. I just hope he's successful in an Everton shirt.

Absolutely right!! He's come to his true home at last!