When was the last time something really good happened to Everton?

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Even the new ground is sullied with debt and queries about the future. 

In a sense, you can see why everyone celebrated like mad avoiding relegation vs Palace two seasons ago; it wasn't just relief but, for a brief moment, we had a ‘high' point and could forget the day-to-day nonsense and believe we were headed towards better times. 

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Joe McMahon
1 Posted 13/04/2024 at 09:38:32

Initial news of Kings Dock (but we know how that ended).

The first signings of Roberto Martinez era.

Can't think of much else unfortunately.

Danny O’Neill
2 Posted 13/04/2024 at 09:48:34
Good question, Ben.

In my lifetime, that all too brief period in the mid-80s when we dominated English football and were a joy to watch.

Not my favourite, but Joe Royle's Dogs of War and winning the FA Cup in 1995.

As much as I've criticised my relative, Moyes's team that came close in 2009. When I watch back, they were like the "nearly men" of the 70s.

We have to keep going. Never give in.

Christopher Timmins
3 Posted 13/04/2024 at 09:55:23
Please, please, can we have the match preview today and so focus on events on the pitch and away from the financial state of play which is so depressing.
Robert Williams
4 Posted 13/04/2024 at 11:07:22
Where are these supposedly 'Super Fans" that our past CEO has been gabbing on about?

Show us what you are made of.

Tony Abrahams
5 Posted 13/04/2024 at 11:08:08
Fuck 777 Partners…

Let's talk about “Dyche-ball and the Dinosaurs!”

Kevin Molloy
6 Posted 13/04/2024 at 12:07:30
Catterick stealing in to sign Howard from under Shankly's nose, that was definitely a good day. that's going back a bit, like.
From memory, good things tended to happen whenever Kevin Sheedy was within ten yards of the ball.
Tony Abrahams
7 Posted 13/04/2024 at 12:38:24
I don’t know why my post@5 has ended up on this thread, and would prefer it to just be binned, rather than being randomly put up on another thread, where it doesn’t make sense, to what is being discussed.

The last time I felt really good about Everton, was sitting in a little restaurant outside Swansea’s ground, thinking I’m going to watch my team play proper football in a minute. The weather was awful, but that didn’t matter, especially when Barkley won us the game late on with a great goal.

It’s been doom and gloom, for years, but surely the sun is going to shine on us soon🤞

Neil Copeland
8 Posted 13/04/2024 at 12:45:18
The most recent for me is our performance at Brighton when we tore a very good footballing team to shreds.

Other than that was Dukes goal against Bournemouth and Doms against Palace.

But other than specific matches probably the ‘95 cup final and as Danny says, the mud 80’s.

Paul Birmingham
9 Posted 13/04/2024 at 15:30:07
2000 plus, games I went to side from some decent away League wins, that stood up, Baines x2 freekicks at West Ham, plus his 35 yarder v the Skunks, Faddies goal v Charlton, Roms goal v Chesea, Morallas rocket v Spurs away at WHL, beating Spurs away at WHL 3,or 4 years on the bounce, 2006-2009.
Jags rocket at our old ground and a few more..

Beating United in 2009 in the semi. Beating Utd at their place - Oviedo...Beating United a few times at Goodison.
Some great Europa nights at home and away Germany, Holland, Norway, and France.

Plenty of so close and if onlys; getting robbed in the 3-3, v The RS in 2013. And many more.

Some great potential seasons didnt quite get there.

Moyses was knocking on the door so many times. But it didn't open.

I didn't go to Brighton away last season, but that was brilliant display by Everton.

Truly thankful for the 19.05.2022 v Palace, staying up confirmed.
That was glorious...

Bournemouth last season was great, but Palace, for me, the greatest night since beating Bayern Munich in 1985.


Brendan McLaughlin
10 Posted 13/04/2024 at 15:51:42
Moyes giving us back some self-respect.

Finishing 4th under Moyes…

Finishing three times above Liverpool under Moyes…

Roberto's first season.

Beating Liverpool under Carlo.

Seamus Coleman, Tim Cahill, Leighton Baines et al.


Peter Mills
11 Posted 13/04/2024 at 18:28:10
It's all relative. I've been fortunate enough to see glory days.

Last week's result against Burnley was very important. Results today were not bad.

We are in dire straits. The only positive thing we can do is support the team on the pitch, and the players must play their hearts out. Earn enough points to stay up, then re-group.

Dave Abrahams
12 Posted 13/04/2024 at 18:37:33
Everton v West Ham at Goodison, we won 2-0 but the result didn't matter ,Moyes was saying goodbye after 11 seasons.

When the final whistle went, I was on my toes and on the way out, couldn't stomach that farewell, just thinking to myself “Free at last, Free at last… fuckin Free at last!!!”

Jay Harris
13 Posted 13/04/2024 at 19:11:47
The 1995 semi-final at Leeds when we were supposed to be cannon fodder but ended up thrashing Spurs 4-1.

The joy of escaping relegation doesn't resonate with me.

Peter Mitchell
14 Posted 13/04/2024 at 19:24:17
Dave Abraham @12 - the subsequent years turned out well, didn't they?

BTW, I am not a Moyes apologist (or whatever the TW nom de guerre was for anyone who had a view that we were at that time doing quite well, given available resources).

I also don't (and never have) wanted him back, but I do think the revisionism of his tenure (here and elsewhere) sometimes beggars belief.

Danny O’Neill
15 Posted 13/04/2024 at 19:45:31
Despite having watched us lift titles, FA Cups and a European Trophy, I'll turn the clock back to my first experience of a derby win.

Andy King.

To the banner people, get the green "Everton are Magic" one draping from the Upper Gwladys!!

Brendan McLaughlin
16 Posted 13/04/2024 at 20:28:32
Dave #12,

I can see where you're coming from but sad all the same.

Dave Abrahams
17 Posted 13/04/2024 at 22:50:05
Peter (14),

Yes, we all hold different opinions and plenty will agree with your point of view. In my case, what I think beggars belief is he won one away game against the top four clubs, at the time, in the twelve seasons he managed Everton and the amount of times playing away he went to those games playing not to lose instead of going trying to win.

One game stood out for many fans was the semi-final at Wembley versus a very poor Liverpool team when we went in at half-time leading 1-0. he shut up shop in the second half and we had one weak shot against a very poor Liverpool goalkeeper, Jones, I think, an Australian, who fumbled the save.

He wasn't tested after that and we lost. One of many many games a lot of us could have written the script for because of the losing mentality of the manager.

Even now though, to add strength to your post, many fans would have him back tomorrow, I'm happy to say I'm not one of them.

Derek Thomas
18 Posted 13/04/2024 at 23:12:42
Paul @ 9: "Moyes was knocking on the door so many times. But it didn't open."

Maybe because he'd rather pull a door shut and defend than push it open and go forward, the same guy who stated... "(He) never saw a draw he didn't like."

And yes, I am aware of the irony of all those '7th-ish trophy' finishes and apparent stability that we'd sell our souls for now... and if West Ham get rid of him for a trendy 'Foreign Freddy' they too will, eventually, yearn for those good old days with Moyes.

His good points got him to where he is, but his bad points will always stop him going to where he could be.

James Flynn
19 Posted 13/04/2024 at 23:52:03
Gray to Calvert-Lewin for that goal.
David Currie
20 Posted 14/04/2024 at 04:42:44
1995 and winning The FA Cup as winning silverware is what this club used to be about!! How the standards have dropped!!

Can we get an owner and board who will turn this club into a Winning club again!!

Danny O’Neill
21 Posted 14/04/2024 at 06:39:55
Peter and Dave,

What is mentioned became the frustration for a lot of supporters. We often set up not to lose.

I finally snapped at the Wigan FA Cup match.

Dave, you only had to go and drop the semi-final bomb.

Set up to win, but we came out with fear and threw it away. A long walk back to Wembley Park station having to endure them celebrating. And when I got home as my local is often full of London reds who know what I am.

Anyway, happier times and for the younger generation. Although in difficult circumstances, that didn't result in success, the atmosphere at Goodison as we came back against Palace. And that night at Brighton when McNeil showed what he is capable of.

Going retro, aside from seeing Kevin Ratcliffe lift our first trophy in my lifetime, I have fond memories of clinching the title at Carrow Road. I don't think many were watching the match after that early goal!

I always remember the Norwich supporters trying to throw presumably sharpened coins at us, but there were nets between the away section and surrounding home fans. Those were the days. What a journey home. Champions.

Michael Kenrick
22 Posted 14/04/2024 at 07:41:15
Derek @18,

Maybe what he actually said was that he never saw a drawer he didn't like.

This would seem to fit better for me with the dour Presbyterian outlook on personal domestic arrangements that he and Morag would have taken such pride in, to ensure the orderly arrangement of all his socks, kilts, sporens and warm wolly underwear.

Jerome Shields
23 Posted 14/04/2024 at 07:42:32
Getting to the FA Cup Final only to be undone by West Brom. A goal which for years I thought wrongly was scored by Tony Brown. Glad it wasn't him. Now he is a hero of mine. I watch videos of him at least once a year.

Division 1 Champions in 1970

Mid-80s, the Golden era. Charley Nicolas apologizing for the soft penalty that got Arsenal an undeserved win and Charley one of his rare goals. Everton won two League titles after that. Everton come back from the Spurs attacks to score at White Hart Lane. First game with my future wife behind the barrier to the left of the goal in the away end. Any doubt vanished.

FA Cup 1995

Just flashes of hope after that as Kenwright's gloss flaked off.

Early Moyes, until the glass ceiling became apparent. I coined the phase.

Martinez's first season Plan A until no Plan B became apparent.

End of Silva's penultimate season only to disappear in the Saha Summer.

Ancelotti's great management, only to be spoilt by the wee empires of Goodison and Finch Farm, combined with not wanting to come under FFP Rules, knowing they were up the sprout already with PSR.Later found there was an FFP section in PSR anyway. I doubt those numpties even know that now.

Mal van Schaick
24 Posted 14/04/2024 at 08:09:29
Beating Bournemouth to survive in the Premier League last season, thinking that it would be onwards and upwards, until the Premier League and PSR ripped into us.

Just bugger off and leave us alone next season, and pick on the likes of Man City and the other so-called big clubs who are cheating their way through season after season, collecting trophies on false pretences, and that the Premier League fail to act against.

Kevin Edward
25 Posted 14/04/2024 at 08:15:59
Probably for me it was the FA Cup quarterfinal at Goodison vs Middlesborough. The Lower Bullens went crazy apeshit bonkers when we came back from 0-1 down (was it Saha?).

We were going to Wembley for the first time since 95 and grown men had tears in their eyes (well the old geezer next to me did).

Unfortunately after the joy of the semi (which was great too although a bit tense) and the first 10 minutes of the final, it all came crashing down.

Laurie Hartley
26 Posted 14/04/2024 at 08:25:35
With respect to you, Ben, I would rather focus on what is “the next good thing that might happen to Everton”. There are a few things on my wish list:-

Three points at Chelsea (they are due a big red capital L).
Three points against Nottm Forest.

That will do for next week and should convince MSP to bite the bullet.

Dave Abrahams
27 Posted 14/04/2024 at 08:46:48
Laurie (26) ,

Yes, those two victories would suit me down to the ground and most fans I imagine.

That would end the worrying and fretting for this season and a nice summer free from all that. Then the future will be whatever it will be. In an upwards direction hopefully.

Ken Kneale
28 Posted 14/04/2024 at 08:53:26
Laurie - sign us up for that now.
Laurie Hartley
29 Posted 14/04/2024 at 08:53:29
Dave # 27 - we will get through it all somehow or other. We just have to hang in there and not give in.
Peter Mills
30 Posted 14/04/2024 at 09:06:06
It may not be the last time something really good happened for us but, 40 years ago today, when it seemed our FA Cup dream might be getting thwarted, Inchy popped up with a header deep into extra time and Highbury went berserk.
Tony Abrahams
31 Posted 14/04/2024 at 09:14:42
Brilliant, Peter, but looking back I think it was apparent that we already had a team to be proud of, which was amazing really when you think of how badly that team had been struggling towards the end of 1983.

I just got a flashback of Peter Reid harrying Kevin Brock when I read your post, Peter, but I was already smiling after reading Laurie's post above. Laurie might live a very long way from Everton now, but he has always known that We Shall Not Be Moved!

Danny O’Neill
32 Posted 14/04/2024 at 09:40:15
That's a great point, Tony.

Most go on about Kevin Brock's back pass, but it was Peter Reid's pressing that forced the error that led to the goal.

Another flashback, for those present, when we battered Arsenal 6-1 at Goodison, 1985-86.

I think though, our most memorable moment, for me, remains Rotterdam and lifting a European trophy.

Brendan McLaughlin
33 Posted 14/04/2024 at 09:49:10
Jerome #23

"glass ceiling... I coined the phrase"


Paul Tran
34 Posted 14/04/2024 at 09:52:09
The last great moment for me was when we played Arsenal and Martinez fooled everyone by sticking Lukaku on the wing and we battered them, Rom scoring and running to Roberto with four fingers in the air. In that moment, 'my Everton' was back.

Then the buggers bottled it and we missed out on the Top 4. Martinez knew it and stated he needed seven players. He never got them and was left with a squad who knew what he (rightly) thought. It was never the same after that.

I sometimes wonder if that's the last season that I'll genuinely, thoroughly enjoy being a Blue.

Danny Baily
35 Posted 14/04/2024 at 09:56:12
In the Premier League era? Winning the FA Cup in 1995, finishing 4th in 2005. Edging past a weak Man Utd side in the FA Cup semi-final in 2009.

Diminishing returns and not a lot to get excited about.

Is there a club that has gone longer without some tangible success than Everton? Serious question.

Danny O’Neill
36 Posted 14/04/2024 at 10:01:23
Paul, 72 points in Martinez's first season will usually get you Champions League.

I think Moyes did it on the lowest. Was it 54 points?

Paul Tran
37 Posted 14/04/2024 at 10:52:07
You're right, Danny, any other season that would have been enough for top four.

And that summer would have been a perfect opportunity for a chairman who really cared about Everton to sell to someone with more nous and finance. That opportunity wasn't taken.

Dave Abrahams
38 Posted 14/04/2024 at 11:02:43
Tony (31), Yes that team proved itself in a league Derby when we drew 1-1, ran the game and let Liverpool know we were there to win it, might have done only the useless future Director missed a penalty.

I think the cup match v Coventry was the match we started becoming a very good team, that was the round before the Oxford game, we were struggling until Kendall brought Peter Reid on as sub and he took over the game and urged us on to that win,

Kendall had hardly used Peter before that game, only God knows why, but we finished going to Wembley twice that season ( Tell me Mar, me Mar) won one of those cups, got beat in the replay of the other and the following season won the league and The European Cup Winners Cup, and lost in the final of The FA Cup a few days after that memorable night in Rotterdam.

We never knew then and another league title two years later that that would be that apart from Joe Royle's FA cup win we wouldn't even sniff anymore Silverware.

Here we are now 2024 up to our eyes in depth, a threadbare squad, fighting another relegation battle, striving to stay as as a football club and business with only us fans behind the club but we will survive and little apples will grow again.

Jerome Shields
39 Posted 15/04/2024 at 10:11:54
Brendan #33,

Yes, I did on ToffeeWeb. First and only time I gave a short explanation.

Lee Courtliff
40 Posted 15/04/2024 at 17:54:14
In recent times, the first season under Bobby was an absolute pleasure after so many years of Moyes. Suddenly, we had pace in the team and a manager who told us what we could do, rather than one who told us what we couldn't.

The football was a joy to watch and we were fearless. This isn't a dig at Moyes btw, I'd just become tired of him after 11 years.

And, the first season under Silva left me feeling like we were onto something. We ended the season on a great run of form with a young, ambitious manager and we will had money to spend. I really thought he could take us somewhere.

I was never convinced by Ancellotti, he didn't fit the club. But, in honesty, there were a couple of moments during his 1 full season with us where I dared to dream. I should know better by now.

The thing about football is, you can never tell what's going to happen and things change very quickly.

Look at Villa, worried about relegation under Gerrard and now on the brink of CL football.

West Ham were in relegation trouble then Suddenly have 3 seasons on the bounce in Europe and win their first major trophy in 40 years!

Newcastle another, Brighton even. No matter how shit things are now, there is always the hope/chance that things can quickly turn around.

Barry Rathbone
41 Posted 15/04/2024 at 18:11:19
In recent times "sin miedo" under Martinez.

His accomplishment of creating a challenging, entertaining team in 5 minutes flat is what all managers here have to achieve or the fans will turn regardless of circumstance.

Progression has to be continued again regardless of circumstance or the fans will get stuck in

Mike Hayes
42 Posted 15/04/2024 at 18:11:34
Lee Courtliff,

He inherited a well-drilled Moyes side then dismantled it with his tippy tappy football.

John Flood
43 Posted 15/04/2024 at 18:34:21
Mike, it's an argument often put against Martinez, but the evidence doesn't really support it. Only 5 of the players Martinez regularly used in that first season (Howard, Coleman, Distin, Baines and Osman) were regulars under Moyes.

I still maintain that season was great and for a short time made us believe a genuine change in our fortunes was possible. We know how in unraveled but I don't believe Martinez would have wasted the money his successors were allowed to spend.

Tom Bowers
44 Posted 15/04/2024 at 18:35:04
That Sharpie volley against Grobbelar and the RS at Analfield. I still watch it on tape.
Mike Hayes
45 Posted 15/04/2024 at 18:53:20
For me, he took the flair out of Mirallas and Deulofeu and that seemed to have an effect on the team – mind you, all those players would walk into this team.

I wasn't a fan of Martinez – we chose a manager who took Wigan down, albeit with a cup – it was always going to be hard.

Joe McMahon
46 Posted 15/04/2024 at 19:04:43
Mike @45, to be fair to Martinez, the owner wanted the cup. I still think they would have stayed up if the cup final had been at the end of the season, Wigan still had 2 league games left.

Also, please don't forget Burnley were relegated twice with Dyche and Moyes relegated Sunderland.

Brian Denton
47 Posted 15/04/2024 at 19:05:38
The first 3/4 of Martinez's first season was the best we did in the whole of the Premier League. We played Arsenal off the park at their own ground, for fuck's sake!

Moyes got us a Champions League place with 61 points and a negative goal difference; Martinez just missed out after getting 72 points and a goal difference of +22.

Mike Hayes
48 Posted 15/04/2024 at 22:36:58
I’ll go for new manager bounce on Martinez - right now I’d bounce DYCHE out of Goodison - Mike feckin Walker Mark 2 ffs 😡
Dave Abrahams
49 Posted 18/04/2024 at 12:35:03
Lee (40),

Yes, it's true: Martinez's first season really was a pleasure, especially after watching 11 seasons under Dour Dave.

But you can't just leave Martinez's time after one season – you have to explain the next two seasons when he went from bad to worse along with his squad.

He too wouldn't change his ‘ philosophy' and it cost him his job, although his bank balance jumped up immensely.

Lee Courtliff
50 Posted 18/04/2024 at 18:41:01
Dave, the op asked for good things that had happened to Everton. We all know how it unravelled under Bobby, but that first season was definitely one of the highlights of my 30-plus years following this once great club.

Of all the managers that have come and gone since Moyes, the only one that makes me wonder "what if?" is Marco Silva. If our midfield hadn't been decimated with injuries, then he could still possibly be our manager now.

I know opinions vary on him, but I always liked him and he's done a more than decent job at Fulham. Saying that, we were pretty awful under him for that last spell... so what's new?

Groundhog Day.

Joe McMahon
51 Posted 18/04/2024 at 18:44:46
I agree Lee, and he also won 0-5 at Turf Moor and we beat Man Utd 4-0. He also persuaded Richarlison to come to the Blues.
Dave Abrahams
52 Posted 18/04/2024 at 18:52:37
Lee (50),

Yes, that season under Martinez was really very good and so you answered the question in the right way.

Silva I wasn't sure about but he has done a good job with Fulham although they are a bit inconsistent.

Danny O’Neill
53 Posted 18/04/2024 at 19:04:54
Dave, I doubt you are like me, who has watched Howard's Way probably over a hundred times. Reverting to that Oxford match, the interview with Colin Harvey is telling.

Peter Reid questioning why he was sat deep. Colin's response? Well don't leave that to the back four and get up the pitch.

The rest was history as he made the press, forced the error and gave Adrian Heath the chance, which he took.

Mark Murphy
54 Posted 18/04/2024 at 20:08:59
Danny Bailey - more than you think including “big” clubs like Leeds and (cough) Newcastle...

We're 15th in the table just below Villa who won the League Cup in 96.

Of the current Premier League teams Forest, Newcastle, Burnley, Luton and Sheffield Utd can shut the fuck up whilst Brighton, Palace, Fulham, Brentford and Bournemouth aren't even on that table having never won a “major” trophy. Strangely West Ham's conference trophy of last year counts. WTF?

In fact we're 9th in the current Premier League based on that – the shite being top as they won the last trophy – the League Cup.

Don Alexander
55 Posted 18/04/2024 at 21:12:56
2004 for me, and specifically when that bent bastard Christopher Samuelson, purporting to be a lifelong Toffee and paraded as such by Kenwright at an AGM as a viable saviour for the club he'd already ruined.

Samuelson was exposed by a savvy one of us at that AGM who simply asked him to name the player who scored our cup-winning goal in 1966. He couldn't, despite having been nearly 20 at the time.

Samuelson was exposed in a one-hour TV documentary, a mere snippet of which is on https://youtu.be/a2WTv_aDN84?feature=shared.

Kenwright in 2004 eh? Who'da thought it!

Tony Abrahams
56 Posted 18/04/2024 at 21:45:05
I got Samuelson wrong, Don, because my first impression was that he was an extra from Emmerdale Farm but I think it was very easy to spot the rest without having any hindsight.

Kenwright really was a magnificent player, and played a large part of the crowd like a violin for many years, unfortunately.

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