Evertonians come from all over the world. ?We are born? blue. But the thought of letting Liverpool FC have the city when we are the first team of the city makes me very angry, anxious, disturbed and frustrated. LFC having Stanley Park makes my blood boil.
I still firmly believe we should stay where we are and, after reading everything there is to read on the subject, have not changed my mind ??.. Stop, stop, stop.
Back to point ? why so passionately against? The only difference between me and other Evertonians is the different lives we all have and what we all grew up with.
My family ? Born and bred in Liverpool. Me aged 44. One set of Grandparents Blue; the other Red. Mum, Dad and sister Blue. One daughter Blue, the other Red (I know ? how did that happen!?!); brother-in-law Red; one niece Blue, other niece Red; one uncle Blue, two Red; one auntie Red, three cousins Blue, seven cousins Red. Wife Blue, her Granddad Blue, her parents Red, her sister Red, her brother Blue, her nephew Red. Add in all the kids and 60/40 red.
Born Blue? - two perfect examples ? One, my youngest niece. Her dad is a mad Red and her older sister is a mad Red yet at 5 she declared she was an Evertonian. Her dad, my brother-in-law, is gutted. The other ? a friend who lives in London, has a daughter aged 6. Because of my influence I suppose, even though I only see them once every 3 to 4 months, one day she decided to be an Evertonian. And still is despite all the stick she takes in school i.e. if you support blue you should support Chelsea (they are only 6).
Out of all of the above ?
- EFC season ticket holders = 4, regular match goers = 4.
- LFC season ticket holders = 0, regular match goers (when they can get a ticket !!!!) = 2
- EFC season ticket holders = 4, regular match goers = 1
- LFC season ticket holders = 1, regular match goers = 1
- EFC season ticket holders = 4, regular match goers = 2
- LFC season ticket holders = 0, regular match goers = 1
What does it prove? I have been surrounded by Blues and Reds since birth in Liverpool and therefore have a better understanding of the deep-rooted rivalry than someone who has never lived in the area. And handing the city over I firmly believe will be the death of Everton. As said we all love and want the best for Everton.
Anyway there you go ? I thought I would give an insight into why I feel like chaining myself to the outside of Goodison and going on hunger strike until Bill Kenwright tells me face to face why he is even thinking of moving us away. Because I would like to ask him about the following: £78M to move? Why not spend it like this: Split the money:
£40M to Davey Moyes this summer; he signs new contract; Starts his next 5 year plan with the players he wants. Team can now make the next step: Short term ? a trophy, regular Champions League. Within 5 years challenging for the Premier League title.
£38M put aside to redevelop Goodison Park. Stage one: new tier on the Park End.
Without money for transfers we will not be able to make next step. We all know Moyes needs it now. Give Moyes the £40M. In 5 years, the team could be running out to Z-Cars in a redeveloped Goodison with a chance of winning the Premier League after finishing within 5 points of the winner the season before and having added a trophy or 2 along the way.
Is that a dream? It could become a reality if Moyes gets the money and we redevelop sensibly. Success would come on the pitch and the manager, team, fans and Goodison Park could grow together over the next 5 years into something special.
Would this solution unite the fans? We have to find the money for Kirkby anyway so I would rather spend £40M of it on the team this summer and the other £38M on Goodison over next 18 months. Then if the team is successful we will earn the extra revenue required to complete Goodison as we go. Far less risk and we stay where we belong.
I do not see how even the most passionate Yes voter could not accept the above as a viable solution for our future success and growth. And the fans will be united again.
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1 Posted 15/05/2008 at 16:41:04
Its a really bad situation in that we need a better stadium to attract top players, but we need top players to help us fund a better stadium.
We would all love Goodison redeveloped, no matter the disruption but I just can’t see it happening.
2 Posted 15/05/2008 at 17:23:03
IMO there are only 3 superior grounds in the prem:
St James Park
The majority are also smaller capacity than GP. Now I understand the argument over facilities and restricted views but I would not even swap current GP (let alone a redeveloped GP) with the monstrosity that is proposed in Kirkby.
3 Posted 15/05/2008 at 16:53:27
I have another reason for wanting to re-develop Goodison.
Besides all my own personal, emotional, illogical attachments, there IS a logical reason.
Ok, we now know we are playing in a division-within-a-divisions (a second division?).
This is because the ’big’ 4 teams above us have a huge financial advantage, which allows them the luxury to....for instance...off the top of my head...buy maybe the best player we’ve ever produced (JUST an example!)
Anyway my point is they seem to hold all the aces.
But DO they? (have em’ all I mean).
Well I’m not suggesting Goodison terrifies the opposition all the time, or guarantees wins or goals, but according to certain players, coaches etc, it can help us, sometimes ’even things up’
Something I NEVER hear about the Reebok (which, make NO mistake, is what we’ll be getting in Kirkby...slightly bigger, but a Barrs design-and-build shithole for that money)
Anyway, here’s a few quotes.
"That’s why I love to play them, and especially at Goodison Park where the atmosphere is magnificent" - Jose Mourinho, 20th December 2006
"Games like this are something special. It’s a massive occasion and the spectators make so much noise. But nobody enjoyed the trip to Everton.’ - Daniel Agger, 2nd February 2007
"When we came out for the second half against Bayern Munich the roar literally made my hair stand on end." - Derek Mountfield
"I made my debut at Goodison against Stoke and was standing in the tunnel waiting to go onto the pitch. Z cars started playing on the PA and I heard the crowd roar. If I could bottle a moment and save it forever, then that would be it." - Alan Harper
?During my time at Everton, Goodison Park came to feel like a second home, with the supporters of the club, and the people of the city becoming a second family to me. If you were to take Everton out of the city, I firmly believe the club could no longer call itself the People?s Club and I give my whole-hearted support to the campaign to keep Everton in the city.? - Duncan Ferguson - Liverpool Echo 05/04/2007
"I left Everton Football Club in 1968. But I can honestly say that Everton has never left me. Most professional footballers embrace some sort of superstitions. But I am the sort of person who can walk into a room and immediately sense vibes about a place - and when I first walked into Goodison Park in November 1960 I could feel something almost spiritual. People may say that that’s just so much mumbo jumbo, but I still get that feeling whenever I go back. Everton possesses a kind of magic - and it is a magic generated by the quality of players who have graced the stadium over the past 125 years." - Alex Young - The School of Science book
Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho said of Frank Lampard: "He is a very important player and this is why he is getting big awards in Europe. The way we play helps him get into the box and he arrived at the right moment to score the equaliser for us. Goodison Park is a very difficult place to come at any time and this is a good result for us. - After our FA cup draw last season
"Everton are a bigger club than Liverpool. Everywhere you go on Merseyside you bump into Everton supporters." - Graeme Souness
"Once Everton has touched you nothing will be the same" - Alan Ball
"The atmosphere was tense in Liverpool that day, the worst before which I have ever played ? there always seems to be a threatening attitude at Everton, a vicious undertone to their remarks." - Jack Charlton.
"Everton are as tough as they come at home and the atmosphere generated by fans on their own patch can be as underrated and intimidating as anywhere in the league" - Chris Coleman.
Plus I’ve heard Ferguson AND Wenger both intimate Goodison is more intimidating than Anfield.
Now of course this doesn’t mean a new ground wouldn’t have that intimidation factor....but it doesn’t mean it WOULD either.
I don’t want to risk losing one of the few ’advantages’ we seem to have.
Two in the bush?
I’ll stick to the bird in my hand
4 Posted 15/05/2008 at 18:35:13
5 Posted 15/05/2008 at 18:24:26
Gary I’m not going to berate you, as you’re entitled to your opinion. There are a great many factors which attract players to clubs. Obviously there’s money, possible trophies/accolades, European football, first team football, manager, the team, the fans, geography, aspiration/ambition from both club and player, etc... and then one of the things that you can not buy, heritage. Of course it’s rare that one of these factors is the absolute crunch (unless you’re Unsworth :). We have a great deal going for us, and I personally beleive that Our History does have a huge affect on potential signings. I remember Beatie’s (OK, not best to choose) face lighting up when he was at Goodison before he signed. Think of the memories we’d be leaving, and yes if we were getting an "Emerites" (which we obviously can’t afford) then you could see the logic... but having read and read, I just can’t see this Kirkby deal being good for Everton.
I’m not a property expert or a financial wizard, and I have said a new stadium would be great... but I don’t see how we’d find the funds realistically, but then I don’t see Kirkby coming in at the new £78M... irregardless of over inflated naming rights and ludicrous land estimates for an area which has been refused residential planning, when most investors seem to be bracing themselves for an economic bumpy ride.
The cases for not going to Kirkby have been detailed far more eloquently than my rambling mess here, but in the same way that a player chooses their club, don’t just look at one angle, try and look at both sides and ask yourselves who stands to gain what from the Deal of The Centaury. Is Kaka really going to say no if Barca do go in for him and contemplate coming to us (again with the great examples!) because The Tesco Value Stadium’s going to be newer than the Nou Camp?
6 Posted 15/05/2008 at 19:42:03
Then I watched the trailer for the Dixie film and it put a lump in my throat watching the tens of thousands ambushing the stage coach outside Lime street, then you think the next time we win the cup we won't be there standing in the footsteps of legends, we will be at Kirkby Town Hall... absolutely unbelievable. Thank you for tearing people's hearts apart, Bill.
7 Posted 15/05/2008 at 19:53:04
8 Posted 15/05/2008 at 20:52:03
9 Posted 16/05/2008 at 08:44:31
10 Posted 16/05/2008 at 10:02:21
11 Posted 16/05/2008 at 10:27:17
12 Posted 16/05/2008 at 10:20:46
I attempted to say before I rambled on and on, that it wasn?t a personal attack on you. I was stating that in my opinon GP, with it?s rich history, represents a major asset rather than an embarrassing relic.
13 Posted 16/05/2008 at 12:49:35
I would rather we keep GP (even if it means a collapse a la Leeds United), than sell our soul
What price for our Soul?
14 Posted 16/05/2008 at 14:08:30
15 Posted 16/05/2008 at 17:10:56
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