Now I do not know whether or not anyone at EFC reads ToffeeWeb, I would hope to heaven that they do given the broad spectrum of opinion encouraged on here and their self-publicised nature of being a ?People?s Club?, but at times like yesterday I must doubt either that they do, or that they are capable of judging the mood of the fanbase.
Yesterday, DM released a statement to the press concerning the transfer activities of the Premier League clubs this season ? a statement which smacked to my mind of a little child jumping up and down and stamping their feet in a supermarket shouting at their parent for not being allowed a packet of biscuits.
?I think there has been some irresponsible buying and spending by some clubs and it makes it a bit more difficult if you?ve got less money to spend than that?. What exactly is DM saying to the world here? I believe that he is saying the following:
- Transfer prices are just bloody silly at the moment
- Spurs and ManU are like children in a sweetshop
- Everton won?t behave like that
- Everton are skint
- It?s not fair
Everton started the close season wanting to build on the squad to compete for Europe. Everton, according to the words of BK and DM were able to attract top quality players, and were looking for 3 or 4. Subsequently, Everton spend all of their time chasing a £4m ?B? International from a relegated club as the top priority, then a week later shout to the press that life isn?t fair. (Sorry Jags, I?m not saying that you are not a good player, but I wouldn?t put you in ?top class?.) So far the fans have heard:
- ?The squad needs strengthening??
- ?The club can attract top players??
- ?DM is looking to buy 3-4 players??
- ?Jagielka is our top priority??
- ?DM may bring in 1 or 2 more?? (post Jagielka)
- ?Other clubs are irresponsible and we can?t compete on that level??
However, given the transfer activities of Goodison this close season, I doubt it ? Beattie has not left, despite being 4th choice striker, Andy VDM is sill about despite Moyes refusing ever to play him and looking to buy other left sided players to supersede him ? all of which is irreleveant, I am not a football manager, I have no idea what goes on behind closed doors. I do however have some understanding about managing people?s expectations and no longer have any confidence that EFC even recognise this as a skill, let alone a need.
Ultimately, I do not like what many managers say about their clubs, Jose and Fergie and Benitez go at it all the time; spouting more and more crap at each other, even asking their team captains to join in, but the one thing they do not do is rubbish their own club? basic really, not rocket science. For DM to stand up and shout to the world?s media that Everton are a small club with not much money, and that we don?t like the other clubs because they?re not playing fair is quite frankly sickening.
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1 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:27:20
1) The transfer market is overheated at the minute
2) We as a club won?t pay over the odds for the players we want
3) When we do make an offer for a player, the other club needs to realise it?s a genuine offer for what we are prepared to spend
4) We as a club won?t sign players who are only coming for the money
And I?m very happy with all that. I think Moyes is right is sticking to his guns, and refusing to pay over the odds for players.
I don?t want to labour the whole "Leeds Utd" thing, but fans do need to realise that if you spend beyond your means and the gamble backfires, there?s no "get out of jail free card". Moyes takes a prudent attitude because he doesn?t want to gamble with the future of the club.
I also think there is a certain amount of cod psychology going on here regarding how much money we really have. I think, if a top class player was available and wanted / was willing to move to Everton, the board would find the funds to complete the transfer. But there?s no point finding the money to waste on average or unproven players. David Nugent was a good gamble at £4m, not a good gamble at £6.5m. Koumas was probably worth buying for £2m, but not worth buying at the price Fulham paid.
If Moyes doesn?t bring in any more players, then we probably will struggle to improve on last season, unless we steer clear of injuries. But that will be his choice and I?m sure he?ll stand by it. I don?t expect, or want, Everton Football Club to sign players just to placate fans. That really would be a massive error.
And please, no posts about "IMWT" or that kind of thing. I support EFC, not DM or BK.
2 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:39:59
3 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:35:03
4 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:41:55
5 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:42:29
6 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:42:04
Can i also point out, that had Arteta and Cahill known this was ahead there may have been different outcomes to the new contracts signed. The players all expected new faces to improve the squad, cant help think that come December we are going to regret this and DM will be made the scapegoat.
Lastly, can i also point out that should David Nugent have a fantastic season we are going to be ashamed, personally now i hope he doesnt, but should he, we would have paid £5 million not £6 million considering we got a gift of £1million for Naysmith.
Please remedy this, what should have been a season to look forward to is quickly looking like one to dread.
7 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:38:51
On a related note American sports teams have a position called General manager, who specialises in club finances. Buying and selling of players, and all matters concerning the acquisition of players. Everton and Mr Moyes seem to be sharply lacking in this area. Heres to hoping I am totally wrong, and Everton win all the competitions we compete in this season!!!
8 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:57:19
Lets hope that one player is a big singing, Wright-Phillips or Requilme... More likely will be Baines or Richardson!!
I assumed we would have around 25mill to spend with all the new sky money, but it now seems that has been put to one side for the new stadium.
Lets just hope our threadbare squad can cope this season. More likely our yo-yo routine will continue and we will find ourselves in the lower reaches once more.
9 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:49:48
1) Transfer prices are quite frankly ridiculous e.g. £8.5m for Reo-Coker, £5.3m Jason Koumas! (never even played prem football), £6m Nugent (looked poor in the u21s and never played prem football), £10m for gareth bale - and maybe the most ridiculous, £16.5m for Darren Bent! - Charlton must have been licking their lips at Spurs paying a completely stupendous sum for a striker that is apparently worth more than Theirry Henry!
2) I would rather the club buy two players who will really benefit the club in the long term than buy a player that will upset the squad or stay for a year. Many clubs have opted to change their squads dramatically this year, and anyone that does that will upset the team balance and spirit.
3) I am positive Moyes has money, and if the right players were about, i am sure he would use it. To be honest, there are not many players that i can think of who would benefit everton, that are available at the right price. Koumas was too expensive, Baines would be a good buy for the future, but £6m...and finally Fernandes for £12m. I also watched his games in the u21 championships and against holland was especially poor.
I will back Moyes all the way because he signed the two most important players several days ago, Arteta and Cahill.
10 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:03:33
11 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:56:01
12 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:49:36
13 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:10:12
14 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:04:21
i therefore puplicly resign as an everton supporter.
15 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:46:50
Do you remember the squad we had between say 1996-2002? Back then, I could never have hoped (given our performance in the nineties) that we would have the calibre of players and management at Everton as we do in 2007.
That’s only my own point of view and it is as relevant or ignorant as any other message here.
Again it depends on what stance you take: support our team or give them the benefit of the doubt, after all, they have run more football clubs than most of us have. Hey and we’r ein Europe. It’s a personal choice. But what choice helps the team performance?
The article also asks if the EFC board read this website. I would hope so. I wonder whether the players read it too. I hope not. What must it be like to hear their fans (the people of the people’s club) criticise the club, manager and board.
It’s just that last season, our support in the stands was something that was commended by our players such as Mikky and Tiny, AJ, Roger as it compelled them to work harder... for us. So what happens if the opposite occurs and we are not supporting them but losing faith in our club or its chances? And then shouting about it all over the web. What do supporters fromother clubs think of our support?
Do we support our team through the ups and downs or do we support them only when we agree with them? or only when they are performing well?
For me (and I only mean me) I am choosing to remember recent history (with full respect to each of the following): Mark Pembridge in the middle of midfield, Rhino on the left, Linderoth, Alexanderson.
These are good times and we’re not finished yet.
16 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:04:21
i therefore puplicly resign as an everton supporter.
17 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:07:37
Davey and Blue Bill work as one and if both are reluctant to blow the club’s future, you can bet they are 100% right.
18 Posted 13/07/2007 at 14:56:05
But come on gents, lets have a think about this for a minute. Would we have wanted any of the following at the end of last season :
1) Pistone, Wright and Naysmith still on the wage bill
2) Koumas for over £5 million.
3) Richardson for somewhere around the same. He’s a carbon copy of Pennant. In it for the money only.
4) Chopra £5 million
5) Barton for another £6 million plus the cost of the inevitable disrepute charges to follow.
6) Nugent over £6 million.
7) Bellamy nearly £8 million for fuck’s sake the world has gone mad.
Every chairman in the land is taking the value of his player and doubling it to get an asking price because they all know how much each other has in their pockets. Not one of these players gives us anything that we haven’t got already or improves the quality of the squad.
Moyes, with the odd exception, has a very good record in the transfer market even if he does stutter like Ronnie Barker in a shopkeepers outfit sometimes.
Priorities for me between now and the Wigan game are :
1) Baines from Wigan (upto £6 million for a future England left back is money well spent)
2) Alan Smith for about the same. He’s not going to get a kick for Man U outside the league cup and is a real quality player if you get his head right.
3) Kevin Nolan would be brilliant if we can pursuade him that Sammy Lee is relegation fodder.
4) Riquelme on loan (remember what he did to us) and someone who can really get stuck in so Harry Hill can have a well earned rest (poor auld fella).
This season is going to be harder than last for sure but we will continue to improve and build. We will buy players that want to join for all the right reasons and not because there pimp of an agent can get an extra £10 grand a week at Boro, Sunderland or West Ham (the next Leeds United by the way)
If I’m wrong I’ll be outside the Spellow on opening day. Free pint to everyone with a copy of this article.
Roll on August til all this shite is over and we can get on with supporting our team.
19 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:17:54
Just relax a little because when I read things like West Ham, Portsmouth, Wigan et al are overtaking us all i can do is laugh.
20 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:09:03
21 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:19:22
I think this is the most pointless comment i have read yet. They HAVE signed the new contracts!! What would have happened if we had lost the Second World War? Who knows! Stop beating yourself up about it.
22 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:28:37
I think DM has shown in the past that when someone is worth paying 8.5 mill for he will....So i’m quite happy to see him NOT buy players that WON’T get us to the semi finals of Eufa and a decent FA cup run with a top 6 finish in the league. Really, why would we replace the rubbish we’ve got out of the squad over the last 3/4 years with players that aren’t even as good as the 17 year olds playing in the reserves.
Let him crack on, if we pick up another player maybe 2 then we’ll do ok. and if we don’t have amassive run in europe this year but actually consolidate and have two decent league finishes in a row i’ll be happy. Howard, Johnson, Roger, Nev, Mickey, Tiny Tim.....seriously boys, we have quality in the squad lets back it and trust the man who actually IS qualified to run a football club..just in case you aren’t sure that isn’t any of us overweight lazy miserable bitter self indulgent gits.
23 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:37:06
Based on the current market who do you want to sign??
I think its safe to say that Richardson is on hes way to Roy Keane and Sunderland. As for Smith i think he’ll stick out another season with the red scum and I havn’t read anything that would seriously that ’kopite’ Kevin Nolan will sign for us. Riquelme is never going to happen (in our dream) with madrid the most likely destination. Wigan as we all know have paid top dollar for Koumas so why would they let Baines go for less than 7 (not worth it by the way). Anthony Gardiner is available but i doubt a partnetship with yobo in the center and Lescott on the left will cut it.
So come on who do we really want ??
24 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:47:59
DM is building something here, and has show results to date. If folks want to spend and starve, go support one of those clubs claimed as ’overtaking’ us!
25 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:57:10
26 Posted 13/07/2007 at 16:06:35
i mean we’re looking for cheap squad players aren’t we ??
27 Posted 13/07/2007 at 15:41:36
The going rate is the going rate whether we like it or not so we must decide whether we need a bigger squad, Moyes thinks so, in which case the money has to be found/paid or we all go into the season, manager, players and fans with that thought already firmly implanted that we’re going to have a very tough season ahead with stretched resources. Not good, patience will break at the very first signs of failure.
People question £5m for Koumas, and again I’m not saying he’s worth it, a proven consistent performer in the Championship, (who I’m sure played in the PL with WBA), but go on to suggest that Nugent at £4m would be worth a gamble. Nugent was the Championship’s eighth highest scorer, being an Evertonian doesn’t add to your ability, and we don’t even need a striker desperately, we do need midfielders.
You can’t have it both ways.
Doddy, usual crap mate. The stadium, if it goes ahead, is at least 3-4 years away, do you think we will hang onto manager and players without progress on the playing side? Money for the stadium can be gained by performances on the pitch not at the expense of it or could, and should, be borrowed against itself as it’s supposed to be the future cash cow isn’t it?
28 Posted 13/07/2007 at 16:12:22
The players we have been linked to are the likes of Koumas, Barton, Fernandes, Nugent, Richardson, Smith, Baines and Jagielka are all players who have qualities. People
are judging Kieran Richardson to early. The boy is young, pacy and has a brilliant left foot sure he has his faults but in a teamlike ours I believe he would succeed. Are you saying Osman, Neville and Carsley have more ability and potential than him? No chance. He is better than what we have got so if we buy him then great if not then good luck to him. What has Koumas done? In my opinion, another good player. Yes he is a late bloomer but he has quality and why was he voted best player in the championship ahead of the likes of Nugent.
People need to understand the reason the prices are inflated. Next season I think will be the best so far and that is why teams are spending big money on players. So I dont think it is right for Moyes to call other managers irrespocible. I do however think we will get players in and hopefully players of quality.
29 Posted 13/07/2007 at 16:21:11
Potentially one positive out of all this is that a number of our ex-academy players will actually see some first team football for a change
30 Posted 13/07/2007 at 16:08:25
31 Posted 13/07/2007 at 16:39:06
32 Posted 13/07/2007 at 16:41:37
33 Posted 13/07/2007 at 16:40:31
It is not all about money but spending it wisely and at the right time. We have a quality squad and yes it needs increasing but there is still six weeks to go before the transfer deadline shuts so lets show some loyalty and hold our faith. Time to complain if necessary is 1st Sept!
34 Posted 13/07/2007 at 17:21:42
35 Posted 13/07/2007 at 17:17:08
36 Posted 13/07/2007 at 17:10:00
I would love David Moyes to bring in two or three comparatively unheard of players at bargain prices who then set the Premiership alight.
However, at the moment, I think he has a hell of a lot to answer for.
He never seems to learn in the transfer market. He blew a great opportunity for EFC when we reached the Champions’ League qualifiers and he failed to spend the money he actually had to strengthen the squad while we were a really attractive proposition.
The market rate is what people are prepared to pay (and accept)and it doesn’t matter how much Moyes stamps his foot and cries "It’s not fair!" - it will still be the market rate, so stop whinging and live with it.
I went to my first game at Goodison in 1959 and it breaks my heart to see a once-massive club being put in the shadow by clubs with no history to speak of, but that’s what’s happening this close season.
Of course I’ll still buy my season ticket and support the eleven out there every game, but I’ll reserve my right to vent my disappointment on Moyes, who lacks ambition in the market and - based on the notorious Spurs game - lacks it on the pitch as well.
At least his tactic of making sure we never have a decent run in any knockout competition eases the pressure on our threadbare squad.
37 Posted 13/07/2007 at 17:28:50
38 Posted 13/07/2007 at 17:51:15
39 Posted 13/07/2007 at 16:43:16
We have been in debt now since 1878 we still owe St Domingos 10s/6d ? once that debt has been paid, he will flog us ? make no bones about that. Not this season, not next... but when the time is right. And he will make about £60-odd million for himself for all his troubles and still sit on the Board.
We will move to Kirkby cos he said so. Look about 1 mile or so north of the Pier Head ? what a fanstasic site for a stadium! As for the team itself I do thank god for DM cos if nothing else that man took the fear of relegation out of us. When he 1st came to us he was told to watch every penny [nothing as changed there, see Bill]. We go into every season now knowing we're not going to win anything, that includes every one except the big two. That is the fault of sky television.
MY FINAL POINT IS I URGE EVERY EVERTONIAN NOT TO SUBSCRIBE TO SETANTA SPORT BECAUSE WHAT YOU GET IS 46 LIVE GAMES AND Liverpool FC TV YES YOU WILL BE FUNDING THEM!
40 Posted 13/07/2007 at 18:18:00
If I were DM, I would pay what ever price was required, to attract good quality players, who wanted tp play for us and not just arrive for a good pay packet.
Even if we take calculated risks, and sign a couple of good quality players for £15m, I think we would recoup that money within 1 successful season.
Sometimes I look at DM and BK and compare them to little shildren in a sweetshop.. ’oh, I only have £2 pounds... erm... I am only going to buy the sweets i really really like.. by which time all that is left is rubbish!
With the current Everton squad, I see us getting knocked out of Europe quite early, getting knocked out of the domestic cups and with an injury to Johnson and Arteta, we would even struggle in the league.
Come on DM and BK, take a risk.. spend that £15m and see where it takes us...
41 Posted 13/07/2007 at 19:24:25
42 Posted 13/07/2007 at 19:16:30
As for West Ham, would you actually want Scott Parker (greedy headless chicken)/Craig Bellamy, especially with the wages and transfer fee.
We are a growing force that is very well run these days. We also have some excellent, young players, a settled squad and a great manager.
And as for Jan - resigning as a supporter - what a great fan you are. Although it is understandable as we did only finish 6th, in Eurpoe and have only bought one player and there’s only 7 weeks of the transfer market left. OH MY GOD PANIC!!!
Get a grip and start supporting your club instead of finding any reason to moan.
43 Posted 13/07/2007 at 18:03:32
44 Posted 13/07/2007 at 19:51:29
Ive never heard such a shower of impotent loons!
apologies for those of you who are’nt.
but those of you who think I just excluded you, chances are your the ones I mean.
45 Posted 13/07/2007 at 19:56:18
46 Posted 13/07/2007 at 20:07:44
47 Posted 13/07/2007 at 21:03:31
Prices in the real world go up in line with what the vendors think they can screw out of the buyers, it’s called life, anyone been to their bank and spat their dummy out telling them they refuse to pay the new mortgage rise? Plus you could go and buy a cheaper foreign version of some goods if you bother getting off your arse to investigate it.
Great article Rupert, I’m furious.
48 Posted 13/07/2007 at 20:59:07
49 Posted 13/07/2007 at 21:40:00
Moyes said we dont have much money. We all knew that so why all the criticism for saying it? But mainly he said he aims to sign someone permanently, someone of real qulaity to improve the team then sign 2 loan players. In total thats signing 4 players in the summer, what he intended to do and what everyone else says we need to do. Just becasue we hav?nt done it yet doesn?t really matter. Fans want the club to be unfront then criticise them whrn they are. Remember, everton still have a massive loan after nearly going into administration during the Johnson era. But for me what he said is positive, we will sign someone who will improve our already strong team. Besides, saying you have no money isn?t necesserily a bad thing, this then means clubs cant hold us to ransom like West HAm or Spurs who pay ridiculous fee?s because other clubs know they have it.
Also, to throw in shear speculation on my behalf the loan thing sounded interesting. He said the loans would be rounded up after the permanent deals, which to me could mean something on the Fernandes front. He hasn?t signed for anyone, and it has been all quiet, I suspect he will arrive on loan for the season, also on the speculation I could see loan deals involving Smith too while the money goes on Baines or a Winger.
50 Posted 13/07/2007 at 21:57:56
51 Posted 13/07/2007 at 21:16:28
52 Posted 13/07/2007 at 22:27:05
53 Posted 13/07/2007 at 23:13:02
However, with comments like these you do have to look at the context. If Moyes arranged a press conference just to say this then that’s pathetic. Far more likely however is that in an interview he was asked something along the lines of ’what do you think of the high transfer fees this season’ or even ’do you think some of the spending this season has been irresponsible’.
I’m not saying this was the case, but I’ve long since learnt to take these kind of comments with a pinch of salt. It’s the media’s job to elicit such reactions and provocative comments from players and managers. I seem to remember last season that all sorts of sources were ’quoting’ Arteta’s desire to move back to Spain, based on the fact he has said he’d like to go back there at some point in his career.
54 Posted 13/07/2007 at 23:33:05
55 Posted 14/07/2007 at 06:59:22
wright phillips 8-10m
we need a midfielder and another defender as yobo will be going to the african nations cup in january
56 Posted 14/07/2007 at 08:54:22
57 Posted 14/07/2007 at 09:12:34
It is the silence which you are treated to which gets me going, if BK was to come out and say "we have a strong enough squad to consolidate this year, the new TV money will be used to clear alot of the clubs debt, helping the club in the long term with stadium decisions, and transfers etc...", i for one would see sense in what he is saying.
However i think everyone would get off the managers back and aim their anger at BK, something he does not seem to want. If you aren?t man enough for the job bill move over, and lets get someone in who at least talks to the fans, and here?s a new idea tells the truth whether we like it or not.
Lets be honest all these people on her demanding we pay through the nose for championship players dont seem to understand the bigger picture. Lets face it for portsmouth to get Nuggent they had to outbid us, they are cash rich, we would be up to £8-9m by now for him, in a bidding war we cant afford. I think moyes was right to leave him alone. Some times football & business as it is now, is not fair, we can either get on with it or cry about it.
58 Posted 14/07/2007 at 08:44:28
But where do we go from here? Consoldiation of our last league finish surely needs investment and to build upon that needs sound investment. Our squad is thread-bare and the proof in the pudding is when AJ and Timothy were injured. Fernandes added that class in midfield that seemed to spark Arteta more but we?ve let him slip through our hands.
Is better safe than sorry the best formula for success OR Who Dares wins? I know which of the two I?d prefer and I?m not just talking in a sense of throwing money at players ALA Leeds but taking a gamble on quality such as Barton or paying £8/9 Million for Fernandes. I would certainly rather have him at the age of 21 for £8mil over £5.3 mil for Koumas who is not fit to tie Manuels bootlaces.
For me though this really is not DM?s doing. I?m sure he?d love to be able to spalsh £10mil at a time on players but his hands are tied. Another question that hangs is what does Robert Earl? Apart from Rambo at half time? Has he invested at all or is he hoping EFC will do well shares will shoot up and he?ll sell for a better price to a foreign investor?
Lets hope we?re just a bit premature in regards to our transfer activity and we have a couple of new heads in by the start of the season or I think there best we can hope for is top 8 and a couple of rounds in UEFA cup. Don?t want to be negative but injuries happen and if Tiny, AJ, Arteta, Yobo or Lescott go down we?re in trouble.
Thanks for reading.
59 Posted 14/07/2007 at 10:54:06
Robert Earl is not here to give us money. He said as much. He is here to make sure that BK has no opposition from the faceless board he has with him.
He is here to give advice and to help with marketing, apparently. Advice from a bloke who has been bankrupt twice and has close over 100 of his restaurants. Sounds a big help.
60 Posted 14/07/2007 at 10:27:08
Surely we are able to compete with the likes of Wigan & Portsmouth for players! EFC has to be a more attractive proposition than playing in front of half empty JJB?
Yeh anyway let?s see
61 Posted 14/07/2007 at 11:19:17
DM has been given a transfer budget, in my opinion £10m plus whatever he makes from sales. He then works down his list at players he would like, with the values he has put and prepared to pay. If it doesnt match up he moves onto the next one. If he considers the player isnt any better than we already have then the deals off.
I believe AVDM and Beatts will come good, Moyes has looked and decided they are better than what he can spend 6 0r 8 million on.
Have faith lads.
62 Posted 14/07/2007 at 11:01:34
63 Posted 14/07/2007 at 12:06:33
This might sound daft but I think the real point is we all agree silly prices are being paid for a lot of players who will fall well short of expectations. Moyes wont follow that route like a sheep and deserves credit for that stance.
Undoubtedly, however we need strengthening. I believe only one or two are necessary. Fernandes was the key, we?ve seen him and know what he can add. The strength of a team who know each other so well cant be underestimated in a league where most squads dont know each others name and will take half a season to gel.
The extra 2 or 3 players will be important just to push the existing squad on a notch or two.
Anichebe and Vaughan are raring to go and I think both are ready for the prem, thats 2 players we couldn?t count on last season.
Whatever the respective views of spend or not, the big key will be the unequivocal support of the goodison crowd. At its best, it drives the players on to great performances, at its worst, it makes them retreat into their shells. Dont let this debate split the support, it?ll all be forgotten in due course.
64 Posted 14/07/2007 at 13:38:54
65 Posted 14/07/2007 at 14:48:30
"Of course we’ll be bringing in top quality players lads...sign here"
When the reality bites & we enter the season with only 2 additions to the squad - what will their reaction be??? They’ve been lied to - as have we
Yet more smoke & mirrors from the Luvvee Kenwright - the man’s a clown - Curtains for Kenwright.
66 Posted 14/07/2007 at 15:00:06
Transfer fees are over the top at present and if we restrict ourselves to paying no more than 4 million then we are going to get nothing special.
The outcry from the fans may prompt the club to buy overrated rubish. Namely Defoe, I’d rather give Beattie another chance.
67 Posted 14/07/2007 at 15:28:06
We’re skint & no amount of pressure or disgruntlment from the supporters is going to change that.
68 Posted 14/07/2007 at 15:19:17
69 Posted 14/07/2007 at 15:58:39
70 Posted 14/07/2007 at 16:55:38
71 Posted 14/07/2007 at 17:25:15
72 Posted 14/07/2007 at 18:51:20
73 Posted 14/07/2007 at 18:29:42
74 Posted 15/07/2007 at 12:20:39
75 Posted 15/07/2007 at 13:05:15
76 Posted 15/07/2007 at 17:16:34
77 Posted 15/07/2007 at 18:47:12
We have 7 weeks and prices will come down, moyes has got it spot on waiting.
78 Posted 15/07/2007 at 21:09:33
"He He, it amuses me that people expect anything different than this."
The hierarchy of this club are, literally, beyond belief. If they told me night followed day I?d have to sit down and consider the proposition. Moyes needs to grow a set of balls and challenge them. It?s no good him bitching during the season if it?s all going arse up.
79 Posted 15/07/2007 at 23:54:42
I believe his recent comments were in response to impatient Evertonians demanding an explanation for the lack of transfer activity.
Let’s be sensible about it; Lescott, Cahill, Arteta, Howard, and Johnson are all world-class players and their fees were ridiculous when you look at what others are now paying for unproven or mediocre players (Nugent and Reo-Coker)! Our lads must now be worth at least £10m EACH - what a gain that is! If Nugent has a good season at Pompey then fair enough but at this stage it’s a big "IF". The £5m they paid for him is about what a proven player would get and he isn’t that yet.
Anyway, one thing’s for sure. DM is his own man who says and does what he thinks and feels are right. For that we should be grateful. He’s rarely wrong as well. Sure he’s had some failures - all managers have but look where we are now. Just outside the top 4, playing in Europe for the second time in 3 years and no manager we’ve had since Howard’s first time here has achieved that!
Progress, progress, progress - it can’t be done overnight but the signs are that we’re getting there and DM has taken us HIS way which is fine by me!
80 Posted 16/07/2007 at 11:14:50
Ask yourself this question "who would I rather have in my squad going into Europe - Koumas, Richardson, Nugent @ $5m a pop - or Sol Campbell @ $2m?"
A fool and his money are soon parted.
Come on the Blues!
81 Posted 16/07/2007 at 12:21:01
82 Posted 16/07/2007 at 12:21:29
83 Posted 16/07/2007 at 13:21:55
Look at the fee Spurs paid for Darren Bent £16M !! Do you reckon he is worth that much ?!! As Declan O’Shaunghnessy mentioned there is the example of Leeds Utd.It’s not just 2 relegations that they have suffered as a result of "splashing the cash" - the club has come close to going out of business.Do we really want to risk that ?
Also It’s not about signing "big name" players it’s about signing the right players.Neither Tim Cahill or Joleon Lescott could be decribed as "big name" signings - but they have both been great signings. Howard Kendall built a team that brought great success to Goodison, not many of the players that he signed were "big names" before they joined us e.g. Kevin Sheedy and Neville Southall to name but 2.
Let’s have some faith in DM - he hasn’t done too bad for us after all these last 5 years has he ?
84 Posted 16/07/2007 at 13:03:41
Moyes has become a mouthpiece for excusing Kenwright's stagnation of the club at every hurdle. Another European adventure down the tubes... all for the price of Bill's Kirkby dream.
Don't let the door hit you on the ass on the way out, Bill.
85 Posted 16/07/2007 at 14:38:37
Middlesboro; who/what bunch of nobodies
Fulham; bought yesterdays men
Only L?pool (bought a b team), Man utd, Chelsea, and Tots are buying decent players... seems there?s not much money about, so why spend lots of money on crap?
Moyes has done brilliantly, and only those who think we should still be top four think differently. The world?s different today. Let?s back this great manager and shut up whingeing!
86 Posted 16/07/2007 at 14:50:50
87 Posted 16/07/2007 at 14:58:07
being called mental by someone who couldnt "care less about signings"....well, what can i say..
why do you even bother ....MATE!
88 Posted 16/07/2007 at 15:07:19
89 Posted 16/07/2007 at 12:24:27
90 Posted 16/07/2007 at 15:20:11
91 Posted 16/07/2007 at 23:33:57
But what?s up with you Ciaran if you want scorn, there?s a nice comfy seat in the slanty house over the park, and don?t forget your waders we wouldn?t want you to drown in the sea of verbal diarrhea that is affectionately known as the KOP.
PS .I take it your from Norway
92 Posted 25/08/2007 at 11:02:39
93 Posted 27/08/2007 at 11:39:29
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