By 1968, I was properly into it and I cried when Jeff Astle RIP scored that goal for West Brom against us in the FA Cup Final. I loved those amber and blue kits. In those days, there were quaint customs such as, in the FA Cup, when there was a colour clash, it was the home team that changed their kit!
1970: we won the league and I had a superb colour signed photo of the Championship winning team; it had been autographed by John Hurst ? I cannot remember how or why but it just was. I had been to my first match at Goodison a few years earlier and we beat Nottingham Forest 1-0; the great Joe Royle scored the goal. There was a neat synchroncity to this as they had beaten us 1-0 on the day I was born, at the City Ground.
1984-85 and 1986-87: the fantastic Howard Kendall years, culminating in him walking away after we were not allowed into Europe... And they wonder why we hate Liverpool FC!
Colin Harvey tried but failed, followed by the awful Mike Walker, appointed it seemed solely on the back of one performance where Norwich slaughtered us at Goodison Park; Joe Royle's Dogs of War; and then the lame duck that was Walter Smith. He left after a tame surrender at 'Boro in the FA Cup.
Fast forward to Walter Smith finally going. I remember wanting one of two up and coming managers to get the Everton job. Moyes was one and the other (promise not to laugh?) was Gary Megson. It took Moyes thirty seconds to work his magic in the first match v Fulham at Goodison.
Since then, he has alternated between feast and famine. Yes, I was lucky enough to experience lots of glory days, the last being when we watched us beat Man Utd at Wembley in 1995 when Neville Southall saved us and Paul Rideout got the winner, a great way to finish a career that never quite fulfilled his early potential.
Now, I appreciate that football has changed. When Kendall won the League for the first time, it was a glorious surprise. Yes, we won the FA Cup in 1984 but which of us honestly thought we were going to be that good the following season? How good was that team? It included Paul Bracewell, my favourite Everton player ever.
I know that these days only probably a handful of teams can win the league, but I am sorry to say I have had enough of Moyes. Those mad, piercing blue eyes... he strikes me as someone who will not change his ways even when he is wrong. Why do we often start so badly? Why do our players always get injured? Why is he so conservative in his substitutions? Why are we so crap away from home?
This season, he has left us bereft of any attacking options. Knee-jerk reaction it may be... but I am just hoping that over the next 13 or so games we can stay in to touch with the bottom group of teams so that when we bring in the 2011 equivalent of Duncan Ferguson in January ? hopefully they can save us. What a dreadful state of affairs.
Moyes has to go as we cannot continue to reward him for such incompetence. It is his fault and only his fault that we are this bad. Without strikers, you are nothing. You will recall him saying only recently that he felt that this was his strongest squad. I think most of us realised after two games that this was a squad with no strikers worthy of the name.
So, who to bring in? My choice, as previously stated, would be Roberto Di Matteo. I saw his MK Dons play several times. They played nice football, he looks good, is very presentable and I really think he is going to be a great manager and we should snap him up if we can. I'm not so arrogant to think he would walk out of WBA. His record as a manger in League games is Played 113, Won 59 (52%), Drawn 26, Lost 25. That's very good for a new manager in difficult jobs.
Er , that's it. I have said my piece. I'm sorry, David Moyes, but your number is up.
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1 Posted 27/09/2010 at 18:51:58
It will be interesting to see come xmas time when we will be in the top half of the league and west brom are near the bottom of the league how many people will be raving about Di Matteo and suggesting him for the managerial position.
2 Posted 27/09/2010 at 19:37:50
It's not just about a few bad results this season but a few bad results at the start of every season. How many more crap starts to a seaso do we have make.
I'm sorry mate but If I was at a party and got intro'd to Davey the last thing i'd want to talk about in general would be football.
I like to stay awake at parties.
It's not about the bandwagon (unless it's Jonny Johnson) it's about how long Moyes has been trying and failing. And lets face it and call a spade a spade. He's failed big time. It's not even about the transfere kitty anymore, it's about a personality thing. It's the difference between him and Fergy, Bill Shankley, Don Revie, Brian Clough, I think you get the picture.
Before anyone says well it's a different game now to what it once was, then I would say that they were wrong. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MANAGERS PERSONALITY. It has to be otherwise guys like Cloughy would never have won the European cup. TWICE.
I eas a real Moyes "appologist" but now as i've said before my heart does not rule my head. In the great words of the Godfather, "it's only business Michael" and thats it. It's business and this is the business of winning. Wins above average and getting 4th or 6th doesn't count for didley sqat in this game anymore.
I've said before, for a manager to take over the helm at Goodison I want Bilic. Why,
This guy,a Serb, (check out the history of Serbs) is totaly aggressive in the way he plays and thinks about football. When he's 2-0 up he wants four and woe betide the team selection next time around if that team fails to get 4.
Thats the agro we need to get at the old lady. Not some amazing coach/manager who thinks Rodwell is a right winger...
Now then, answer that one and stay fashionable !!
3 Posted 27/09/2010 at 19:52:02
On the next manager, who I would like to see at the start of next season? I would go for Martin Jol but like you I have also had this belief that Di Matteo could be a very good manager and this is something I have thought about since midway through last season.
4 Posted 27/09/2010 at 20:14:47
5 Posted 27/09/2010 at 20:18:19
"IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MANAGER'S PERSONALITY"
Would you say Harry Catterick was "Mr Personality" or Bob Paisley had a great personality? Also, you say it is all about personality and then start mentioning Don Revie, so you lost me with that one.
6 Posted 27/09/2010 at 20:18:04
Love that quote, and it damns Moyes and his selections for so many reasons.
7 Posted 27/09/2010 at 20:49:33
8 Posted 27/09/2010 at 20:47:34
Secondly, the comment saying 'I don't believe he has what it takes to succeed at the highest level'. You need funds to get to the highest level, something Everton don't have.
In my opinion, Moyes certainly has flaws but personally, I am not convinced drafting in Roberto Di Matteo is the solution!
9 Posted 27/09/2010 at 21:03:03
Ha ha. Yeah i was going to mention that in my post as well. I don't think calling him a serb would be the best thing Jon could ever do.
10 Posted 27/09/2010 at 20:34:23
The managers you mention all had personalty, I think you're hinting that they were'nt loud.
Shankly and Clough were loud personalities.
God, make our next manager out of their mold.
11 Posted 27/09/2010 at 21:07:10
I've always had reservations about Moyes, but there were umpteen mitigating circumstances relating to him.
The second half of last season beating top 4 sides showed the pieces of the jigsaw were assembled regardless of circumstance.
The obvious question of can he put the jig saw together has been answered for me.......he can't.
Worse still if my maths are right we're on course for a 19 points season, which, I believe, puts us out of the top 4.
12 Posted 27/09/2010 at 20:22:41
Also, an ex-Moyes apologist, the reason my views have changed come down to the man's "safety-first above all else" approach and complete lack of imagination.
I agree also with everyone who points to the difference between the pre-Moyes period and today. That difference is reflected in the fans' hopes and aspirations, things that were non-existent in those dark and gloomy years.
My current dissolution with Moyes stems from those very hopes that he stirred in our breasts. He gave us a taste of what is possible but now that seems his ability is limited by my previously mentioned failings.
At the same time I will not call for his head or make suggestions about alternative managers. I suppose that is because of fear that those dark years could return.
Moyes safety first approach has always garnered enough points to keep us clear of relegation and I expect this season will be the same.
I am more and more critical of him and his methods because this season in particular he seems to be treading water while managers with less quality in their squads are going hell for leather.
Surely he must be kidding when only recently he recognised how bad we are at right midfield and this a year after the Donovan experiment and I do not rate Landon as anything other than competent.
Moyes sticks rigidly to a system designed to produce low-scoring games. He deploys a lone striker plus at the slightest hint of danger every man races to get goal side of the ball. Far too often that mad rush toward our own penalty area leads to long balls from defence to no-one in particular.
He has surrounded himself with assistants, all ex-defenders who I would guess had never scored a dozen goals between them in their entire playing career. How in hell's name can they advise a striker on how to score. Despite all that Moyes complains/whinges about our lack of goals.
To illustrate my point about his lack of imagination I point to SAFs substitutions against Bolton. Manure were losing when they brought on three attack minded substitutes, one of whom replaced a defensive midfielder. That changed flow of the game and produced an equaliser and almost won the game. In the same situation, our Davy would have replaced our lone striker with another lone striker and that would be the sum total of his imagination.
To sum up, I say that Moyes is a good but over cautious ? and until or unless he breaks that mould, he will never be a great ? manager.
13 Posted 27/09/2010 at 22:23:52
He has done a great job of giving us some stability and we know we will end up in the top half of the table somewhere.
But after a while, almost and possibly begin to grate. After a while you look at a good group of players and think sod it, lets go hell for leather to win every game. Forget the usual tedious caution and go for a win. One in two is better than two draws.
Injury time against Man U and Newcastle both could have produced a win, why not a bit earlier?
Moyes is a bit dull and out of his depth to move these players on I think. They can get to the next level but it might be with other clubs. Everton needs a kick up the arse and a bit more of a cavalier approach to the match. A bit more art and fun. We are not going to get this with our current Manager so thanks for taking things this far, but we do need a different attitude to move it on.
14 Posted 27/09/2010 at 23:48:56
Bet you whatever you want we end up with more than 19 points.
What will be interesting to see, is how many teams above us have spent less money.
15 Posted 28/09/2010 at 01:11:38
16 Posted 28/09/2010 at 02:08:26
So Bilic might be a good option, but also one who is completely untested at club level. Also, does he come and work for free for the first year? He still owes us a million quid!! I don't think that the Board of Directors have too short a memory so I can't see him being anything more than a pipe dream.
17 Posted 28/09/2010 at 08:38:18
"Worse still if my maths are right we're on course for a 19 points season".
Please could you expand on the above a bit please? I am intrigued.
18 Posted 28/09/2010 at 12:23:08
I pro rata'd 3 points from 6 games.
At 38 games in a season
3 points multiplied by 6.33 = 18.99
Think that's the maths of it.
Fuckin great laugh is'nt it?
19 Posted 28/09/2010 at 17:39:07
20 Posted 28/09/2010 at 17:56:03
21 Posted 28/09/2010 at 18:42:13
You will be delighted to know I have qualifications in statistics and other bollox.
22 Posted 28/09/2010 at 19:50:26
23 Posted 28/09/2010 at 19:59:55
24 Posted 28/09/2010 at 23:58:34
For me, in my opinion, although Moyes has flaws, the jury is still out as to if someone else could come in and perform massively better on a long term basis.
25 Posted 29/09/2010 at 12:41:19
I can't see the Board sacking Moyes unless we're staring relegation in the face. But they'd be hoping that Moyes would walk of his own accord if things ever came to such a pass.
26 Posted 29/09/2010 at 17:08:03
I agree that we probably won't part company with Moyes any time soon unless he seems unable to adequately address our current plight. Moyes comes accross as quite an honourable man & I suspect that he would choose to go if he felt that he had failed or could progress no further.
Obviously the clubs with the most resources will tend to dominate but is it impossible to gate-crash that wealthy clique? I'd like to think not, but maybe that's just naive wishful thinking!
27 Posted 29/09/2010 at 19:32:51
I'll bet you're suicidal (lol)
28 Posted 29/09/2010 at 19:35:33
29 Posted 29/09/2010 at 19:44:35
30 Posted 29/09/2010 at 23:58:06
Sean Thompson - sorry mate, I wouldn't trust Moyes with a loaf of bread.
31 Posted 30/09/2010 at 09:57:18
I think you will find that you statement is very wrong indeed... Walter Smith was removed because of what Moyes is doing right now. To believe we were devoid of passion or had no aspirations defies any logic whatsoever.
We got rid of Smith didn't we? if it had been left to the fat controller, he'd still be in charge today... believe it.
32 Posted 02/10/2010 at 18:40:11
But where are they? Anyone know?
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