This article in the Guardian ? http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/oct/26/the-question-barcelona-reinventing-w-w ? analyses the formation(s) used by Barca and shows how TWO attacking full-backs are mitigated in midfield.
It seems to me that, once Coleman has been taught how to defend by Neville/Hibbert, he could be the answer in the W-W format rather than a back four, with the fulcrum of a Fellaini/Neville/Rodwell type (Rodwell seems tailor made for this role?) and then Arteta/Bily/Rodwell in the front two and a forward three including the likes of Guaye/Donovan/Anichebe (already playing wide) plus a true striker ? or perhaps a Cahill to finish things off in the air.
Not wishing to start a rehash of all the prior discussions i.e. this formation versus that, but we have struggled to break teams down. This article explores what we already sometimes see on the field i.e. positive wing-back play and a mobile "defensive" midfielder able to act as a play-maker AND defensive cover.
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1 Posted 26/10/2010 at 16:58:51
Yes, I'd like to see that formation in practice. It seems to me that the midfield would be very lucid and interchangeable. Arteta may revert to the 'Dunga' position. alongside Fellaini, when his legs go. But in the meantime I'd like him to have more freedom. It will be nice welcome back Rodwell, anyway. He should be fit soon.
I think, in reality, we better wait until Neville retires before there is even a possibility of Coleman transmogrifying into Seamus Ramos.
2 Posted 26/10/2010 at 17:06:33
3 Posted 26/10/2010 at 17:10:13
4 Posted 26/10/2010 at 17:12:45
5 Posted 26/10/2010 at 17:40:00
With regard to Everton, I'd be happy if they could play the 4-2-3-1 well, and I think we are only a couple of players away from this.
6 Posted 26/10/2010 at 18:17:52
It's a game of fine margins and whether your default is to press and close, drop and surrender (think Inter last year vs. Barca), advance and smother etc etc at any point in a game.
Doing one and then switching gears to surprise the opposition is the mark of a truly working tactical SYSTEM (vs. a single formation).
I feel like we're getting there - ergo vs. Man U this season when we went 3-1 down - but I know we all also experienced "itchy-bum time" against Spurs last weekend when we dropped too deep and left spaces in front of defence rather than staying compact.
We'd all like progress to be faster and before our best players age / move on with no certainty of equal or better replacements.
7 Posted 26/10/2010 at 19:03:33
8 Posted 26/10/2010 at 20:21:10
9 Posted 26/10/2010 at 22:38:09
The old WM relied heavily on top class wingers and a powerful centre forward. The magical Magyars ripped that style to shreds and only Brazil, blessed with fantastic wingers, has dared to use it since.
Ensuing years brought twin centre-halves then sweepers. Don Revie's great skill at long-range passes brought in a deep-lying centre-forward style. Czechoslovakia hit the heights with overlapping fullbacks, Holland went a step further with its ?total football?.
Alf Ramsey had his wingless wonders and, in-between and since, there has been numerous variations. All of which had some success. Once opponents develop counter-measures, such experiments usually come to an end. Whatever tactics are employed, they all depend on making best use of available talent.
Everton did very well with a ?flat back four? but that worked only because our backline that included Ratcliffe and Mountfield were recognized as being exceptionally fast and the two full backs were no slouches either. Had any one of them been less than very quick, it would not have worked.
I agree with the earlier poster who said Chelsea use a style similar to the old WM. Where that can come unstuck is through the middle of its defence. With its backs almost continually pushed forward, Terry becomes vulnerable.
10 Posted 27/10/2010 at 09:28:08
It is the system I use for Everton on FM, I expect to win the league this year.
11 Posted 27/10/2010 at 14:30:29
We currently play a 4-1-4-1 (or 4-1-3-1-1) which effectively gives us 1 holding midfield player and 4 more attacking ones. The difference between our team and others is the likes of Arteta, Pienaar, Cahill and Osman work their socks off when they haven't got the ball.
You only play 2 DM if your other 3 don't track back / defend
12 Posted 28/10/2010 at 12:16:56
13 Posted 28/10/2010 at 23:32:50
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