Everton target Tyler Dibling after hitting stumbling block over Takefusa Kubo price

At the end of last season I would have said Dibling was probably out of reach to us - with the Rich 6 all being linked.

However, with spending the way it has gone, I think Dibling is now genuine option.

From what I have seen (which isn't masses admittedly) he looks a really big talent - a proper dribbler and playmaker of very high technical standard from the RW / forward position.

I would be really impressed if we were to get him.

Robert,

I agree Dibling is a really good young talent, but the money Southampton are quoting is excessive for a 19-year-old who was in and out of the team.

For the here and now, I think there's better value & output than Dibbling.

Not against it; I just think we need a player capable of 15 to 20 goals and assists in the now.

Ian, I'd love to think that player is out there. Not sure who he is though.

In the same position, there have been a few Premier League moves already:

Mbuemo (25) has just gone to Man Utd for €75M after hitting 20 goals and 8 assists in 38 games.

Kudus (24) has just gone to Spurs for €63M after hitting 5 goals and 3 assists in 32 games.

Elanga (23) has gone to Newcastle for €61.4M after hitting 6 goals and 11 assists in 38 games.

I don't know what Saints want or expect for him for Dibling after hitting 2 goals and 1 assist in 33 games. But given the level of performance at only 19, I would expect about £45M.

I guess Ipswich are hoping for a fee along those lines for Hutchinson (21) after he hit 3 goals and 2 assists for Ipswich.

The truth is that players are really expensive these days if you want them for the first team straightaway.

Whilst we would probably get more like 5 goals and 5 assists out of this player to start off with, there could well be much more to come. And those extra 10 goals and the additional quality would make a big difference.

Ian who is the player you are thinking off that will get 20 goal contributions in the now? Who would want to come and we can afford in wages and transfer fees?

I would be absolutely buzzing if this story is true. This lad is like a cross between Bale and Grealish. He is exactly the type of player we should be signing.

We couldn't afford anyone with 20 goal contributions already in the Premier League and, if we're to sign someone like Kubo, who has close to those returns in the Spanish League, they most probably will need at least half a season to adapt.

I think this lad will improve hand over fist and would be the most exciting winger we will have signed since Kanchelskis.

Ian #3, we definitely need 15-20 more goal involvements next season, but right now I'd be delighted if we signed two young players who combined for that many. And then hope one of them grows into the kind of star you describe.

One step at a time.

I said 15 to 20.

Elanga 17 goal contributions for what £15m? Not exactly Andrei when he signed, and somebody a number of fans did want like McTominay. How wrong they were.

Sarr 18+ goal contributions for £14m including cup.

Minteh will be in that bracket.

Thats 3 players we could of signed last season for £15-30m, and now we are saying its not possible?

Gareth bale Mbeumo 28 goal contributions.

Semenyo 16 goal contributions.

Other teams seem to sign players that can get 15-20 goal involvements without the need to sign from a Premier league rival for £50m. The players you quote Robert prove the rule.

There are players out there for £25-35m that you can get that if you play attacking football. Sure they won't do that if they don't get over the halfway line under Dyche. But I think we can play a bit more football with Barry, Alcaraz, Ndiaye and Beto to go with a right winger or two.

Ndiaye should be targeting 15-20 goal involvements, and he cost what £20m?

Kevin Thelwell… The only employee we needed this summer who should have been kept on; maybe he didn't want to stay?

My guess is he would have been happy to stay given the job he did for the 3 years previously.

Moyes could've fought for him but didn't… What a waste of knowledge. All on you, Davey,

Sort it out yourself, cos you let a decent DOF go, cos you don't like the model!

How's the current model doing?

Seriously, Jeff…

How's it all on Davey?

Brendan, he could've kept Thelwell and worked with him this summer, but chose not to.

Moyes was in a massively strong position in May, he could have what he wanted, especially people who were already positioned.

Emerson Palmieri is available. West Ham have told him he can leave and he's been left out of the squad for the USA tour.

The 30-year-old Italy left-back made 31 Premier League appearances for the Hammers last season and has been a regular since his arrival from Chelsea in 2022.

Palmieri played 113 times for the Hammers and was a key figure in their historic Europa Conference League victory in 2023.

We have no cover at left-back, so a no-brainer. But I've no idea what the fee is West Ham are asking for.

I'd take a serious look at Daizen Maeda at Celtic, would be cheaper than Kubo, 27 and in his prime, excellent presser of the ball and stamina off the charts.

Balikwisha at Antwerp a much lower cost option but with injury history.

Jacob Breum another cheap option but more of a gamble

Tyler Dibbling… will he improve our stats? 2024-25 — 33 matches, goals 2, assists 0, yellow cards 6… probably not.

We need ready-to-go signings. As the squad is now, we will struggle to stay away from the relegation zone. This saving money on cheap signings, and trying to lower fees will get us in a whole load of trouble.

All the clubs in the Premier League are strengthening their squads; we have to spend and spend quickly. A brand new stadium won't keep us up. Pull your finger out, Moyes, it's you who will take the bullet if things go wrong.

Back to blaming David Moyes again.

Boring!

What's missing on this subject is information, such as how much is too much?

If we're looking at a difference of £5M or more, that's one thing… but if we're missing out for just a couple of million, perhaps we should just "shorter pockets".

Or maybe we're not truly interested?? Or their clubs just don't want to lose them???

Everton have dilly-dallied and cocked it up again.

Might as well get Calvert-Lewin on loan from Sheffield Utd… and there's a lad at Wigan called Layton Baines…

If this 19-year-old, playing for a Championship side, is £45M, then surely better to go with Fellows for £15M, who's also at a Championship side but has contributed more?

Fair point, Eric.

Ian, I totally agree that we should hunt out lower cost players and value where we can. I'd have been more than happy with the likes of Hudson-Odoi, Elanga and Sarr in the past.

However, I'm not sure who their equivalents are this summer. Certainly there aren't many Premier League cast-offs in that league who play right-wing. Possibly Ben Doak (Liverpool) and Amad Diallo (Man Utd), Reiss Nelson (Arsenal) and Oscar Bobb (Man City).

I'd be happy with all of those except Nelson who seems now completely off the boil. But Diallo could easily cost £45M (if he's available at all), Doak £25M and Bobb probably is only available as a loan.

Overseas, there aren't bags of options of the quality of Hutchinson and Dibling. Burnley have bought Tchaouna (£13M) who looks promising, and Sunderland have bought Talbi (£17M). I'd have been pleased with both of those, but probably more as quality cover or development players rather than straight into the first team.

And that is our key issue this summer. We are desperate for first-team quality players on our atrocious right flank. But happily we also have the money to match – and £40M is really not a big fee at all these days. It's no more than the equivalent of Moyes paying €10M for Bilyaletdinov in 2009.

Mbeumo and lots of others prove that, if you buy young talent at relatively low cost and take years to develop it, you can get a really good player.

But if you want someone who can play 38 Premier League games straight away, has real talent, and can be our right-winger for the next 5 to 10 years, then Hutchinson and Dibling start to look good value.

Having done that, we can then start to pick up cheaper players to develop from there — the next Olise, the next Mbuemo, etc.

Jeff #8,

I agree, Thewell is a real loss, but he had been allowed to build a structure around him which had to be dismantled after the TFG 100-day review, so that a new structure was put in place. He had to go, and I think that it was outside Moyes's remit to do anything about it.

It looks like TFG and the new transfer team are concentrating on buying youth. More experienced players will be brought in on free short-term contracts and loans.

I'm still looking at the team that won brilliantly at Newcastle last game, only loss is Duke, which is a concern as no replacement signed yet. But w Barry coming in & Bran on long term contract I'm optimistic... think Patterson played down right in that game replaced by Young? We do need a real new rb. am I mistaken in thinking Ndiaye can play right wing, think he did v England for Senegal.. ? McNeil on left, Alcaraz no. 10 I guess v talented but lacks physical presence v little cover for any of those forward players. Will Armstrong be used ? Exciting times!