Clearly all is not well; it seemed to me yesterday that, for the first time, the players were at each other, the body language was poor, even new boy Coleman seemed to be having a right go. Some will say that shows they care, but I didn?t get that; I got the feeling that no-one has a clue how we are going to score, and added to that, I don?t think Moyes?s has a clue and the players sense that.
There is some deep frustration within the ranks ? none more so than Arteta. He seems to be on a distant planet, remote from the scene on the pitch, unaware of his duties ? should he back-track or is that Heitinga?s or Fellaini?s role ? should all play go through him... as he seems to think it should. Their second goal yesterday was a prime example: Baines had the ball and the better pass should have been to Rodwell 10 yds away, but he gives it to Arteta 20 yds away with two Arsenal lads all over him. Hey presto, he looses it, and four passes later ? it?s a goal.
But it's not all Arteta?s fault ? it's our current system. If it was an Arsenal player who lost the ball we would undoubtedly move it sideways, then backwards, then in-field again, then over to Baines and finally a cross into an area 12 passes and 40 seconds later, with 7 Arsenal defenders in it waiting to clear. Four of those passes would have gone through Arteta. The team has believed the hype that we are a skilful ball-passing, ball-retention team, but seems to have forgotten that you need to score goals to win games.
Back to the top comment ? it needs someone like Sunderland to stuff us at the Stadium of Light next week for Moyes and Co to finally say enough is enough, forget 4-1-3-1-1 (4-5-1 to some) ? it ain't working. The successful teams this year are teams with two forwards up front, two strong midfield men and pace/skill on the outside.
My team would be: Howard; Coleman, Jagielka, Distin, Baines; Fellaini, Neville; Arteta/Anichebe, Pienaar; Beckford, Yakubu;
The pace would be provided by Coleman and Baines with Arteta?s and Pienaar's roles to open up their back four with intelligent movement. Arteta won't like it, switching back to the outside... but he?s not cutting the mustard as our playmaker at the moment. Heitinga won't get in, and should be sold in January, and Rodwell (when fully fit) will have to push for Neville?s position.
The race for the League 3rd-6th places is really wide open and any team capable of WINNING games on the run would be in a prime position. DRAWING games is not good, winning 2 out of 3 is better than winning 1 and drawing 2 ? simple maths, but to win games you need to score, you need the balls to throw men forward from the first minute ? not in the last 10 mins.
Do you think Moyes will change anything unless we go through our yearly ?it was an absolute disgraceful performance and it won't be tolerated anymore? game? If not, then let's get it over and done with as soon as possible. Sunderland should be full of optimism after their game against Chelsea today.
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1 Posted 15/11/2010 at 05:08:03
2 Posted 15/11/2010 at 05:46:36
3 Posted 15/11/2010 at 05:42:39
For me, my team would be: Howard; Neville, Jagielka, Distin, Baines; Coleman, Rodwell, Fellaini, Pienaar, and Arteta in the hole behind the Yak.
Now we would have pace in the middle with Rodwell, ball-retention from Felli, pace down the wings with Coleman and Pienaar, and Arteta sliding in killer balls to the Yak.
Arsenal play 4-5-1, the difference with them and us is.... Say Arshavin gets injured, on comes Rosicky; Song gets injured, on comes Diaby... Players coming on in their perfect positon.
In our case, Felli is out, in comes a centre back... Pienaar goes off, Osman to the left ? you get my drift. Arsenal known their system to a tee, Everton is a mis-match where, week to week, we don't know whether to play hoofball or football.
4 Posted 15/11/2010 at 06:36:54
Might be a bad move , but I think he needs a real shake up . If Mucha is not a threat for Howard , then we need both a striker and a keeper in the transfer window.
5 Posted 15/11/2010 at 08:21:04
Why? coz we have TWO excellent Wing Backs in Baines and Coleman.
To use them properly it must be 3 at the back, from Hibbo, Nev, Jags, Heitinga, Distin. Pip can cover the left if required.
This has the added bonus of keeping both PN and JH out of midfield.
Will we get 3 at the back or any facsimile of radical push-the-envelop thinking?
Desperate times need desperate measures... Oh so you don't think it's desperate yet, you maybe right... but, once the snowball gets too big to stop, well we will be Newcastle upon Mersey. And just like them we will be too good to go down, until we actually do.
So it's 3 at the back (or some other cunning plan )
3 (Moyes, Round and Turner) out the door.
6 Posted 15/11/2010 at 09:08:01
Too many players didn't put in a shift yesterday; Saha needs to just fucking hit a ball instead of trying the fancy dan shit, Arteta needs to push up the pitch, Cahill looked knackered and injured but still has twice as many goals as our three strikers put together, Coleman and Baines look really pissed off and finally Moyes needs to realise how much better we look when he has finally grown some balls, too late in the match, and gone for it ? earlier subs DM!!!!!
7 Posted 15/11/2010 at 09:54:01
8 Posted 15/11/2010 at 10:04:06
My criticism of David Moyes is that he bought a centre back, Heitinga and is paying him £40k a week to play in midfield where he is rubbish. I'll go as far as saying Phil Neville is better playing there because he will close down the opposition.
9 Posted 15/11/2010 at 11:18:55
The disaster game was only drawing with Wolves. The next disaster game was losing to Newcastle at home. The next disaster game was drawing away at Blackpool. The one after that was only drawing with a last minute equaliser at home to Bolton.
All except three games this season have been a fucking disaster. What concerns me most is Moyes won't start playing attacking football, he will concentrate more on defence and trying to keep a clean sheet. We are in for a horrible season.
10 Posted 15/11/2010 at 11:29:33
11 Posted 15/11/2010 at 11:48:34
I'd much rather see Rodwell start in midfield than Heitinga, but I am aware he may not be quite ready for 90 minutes after his injury. It's also sad that we've spent £9 million on Bily and people like Heitinga and Coleman are playing ahead of him in midfield.
12 Posted 15/11/2010 at 11:53:18
Or is it that he doesn't trust the other midfielders to get him the ball, or he really does want every last play to go through him? No idea... but seems stupid to have the best creative midfielder we have playing so deep.
Will be interesting to see what DM does when JR is fully fit ? will he put JH in the bench? If so, I cannot see him staying around too long warming our bench. If he goes in January, can we get Yobo back? Otherwise we have fuck-all cover at CB ? unless JR is going to play there.
13 Posted 15/11/2010 at 11:54:02
I also suggested in a previous post that DM should tell them before the match they are 2 - 0 down because that is when they seem to wake up. I thought Distin was quite good in defence but his passing forward (a la Unsworth ? just hoof it!) was dire, three consecutive "passes" went either into no-man's land or to a player heavily marked (used to be known in my day as a suicide pass!!)
There does seem to be a lack of spirit but hopefully this could be the "WAKE UP" match...
14 Posted 15/11/2010 at 12:13:06
We were second best to Bolton on Wednesday, and similar to Arsenal yesterday, basic things like corners and free kicks are a joke.
Too many players who don't look interested, and our passing in midfield goes from left to right without the much needed through ball, to bring our LONE striker into play.
We cannot go on hoping to catch opposition in the last 10 mins, it has worked a few times, but Bolton and Arsenal showed more agression, and in my opinion Bolton deserved to beat us.
15 Posted 15/11/2010 at 12:47:29
"We were second best to Bolton". Get real!!!! Bolton attacked twice and scored once ? we spent about 80 minutes in their half trying to do what Bolton did in thirty seconds.
We have issues, that I will agree with, from Arteta down to Moyes being a controlling defensive twat ? but please, when you slag off the team keep it real.
16 Posted 15/11/2010 at 13:12:42
I'm really starting to wonder if the opportunity right now is the gutsy one. Cash in. Move Moyes on, move our high earners/valued assets on and take a real punt on youth in this team. We could put ourselves in a decent financial position. We'd be just as close to breaking the top 4 (ie nowhere fucking near it) but maybe with a future after a couple of years of struggles.
Would just need to avoid relegation!
17 Posted 15/11/2010 at 16:26:08
Do we ever practice scoring goals? I'm only asking because it never looks as if we do.
18 Posted 15/11/2010 at 16:59:32
Pienaar with his useless final ball and his girly powered shooting boots.
Arteta disappears in big games.
Beckford came on and had a great first time shot, pity no other forward does that anymore.
We are getting the ball to the box fine but then fall apart because for some reason they are scared to have a dig.
The build up play is good but the rest is shite... unfortunately.
19 Posted 15/11/2010 at 16:49:06
Moyes needs to get Arteta further forward, at least then he can pass the ball sideways on the opponent's 18-yard box instead of the half-way line. Also getting Anichebe back will give us that extra bit of physical strength, or just give Saha a slap in the face to wake him up.
20 Posted 15/11/2010 at 17:15:10
I really don't think not playing the guy who has scored 43% of our goals this season and is the joint second highest goalscorer in the league is going to help us.
21 Posted 15/11/2010 at 17:55:34
22 Posted 15/11/2010 at 18:19:27
As I've said before, the team looks stale and ready for a re-fit. I noticed for parts of the Arsenal game Pienaar played a central attacking role which had me wondering was it him or orders from Moyes?
And to add to that, Arteta soon went off. Problem with this was that we stopped our threat down the left flank.
If this keeps up and Moyes cannot get sufficient funds in either January or the Summer, then I think Moyes will walk...
23 Posted 15/11/2010 at 20:05:56
24 Posted 15/11/2010 at 21:21:58
Cheer up everyone.
25 Posted 16/11/2010 at 00:15:07
26 Posted 16/11/2010 at 05:21:53
27 Posted 16/11/2010 at 09:48:38
The only player I know with a worse injury record than Saha.
28 Posted 16/11/2010 at 14:43:02
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