It's pretty obvious something needs to change!! I think the basic way we set up is okay, you can call it a 4-5-1 or a 4-4-1-1 but it's basically two banks of 4 with Cahill playing in an advanced role alongside a single striker (if you can call ours that at the moment). What we need is a bit of a shake-up...
Seamus has played a few games now and seems to be growing in statue, I know it may cause disagreement but I'd drop Neville put Seamus at right back and put Arteta on the RM. Arteta seems to be lacking in confidence at the moment so putting him on the right should give him a bit more time on the ball and put him in a more advanced position to use his creativity.
I'd play Fellaini in the middle with Rodwell and Pienaar on the left. Back four I'd switch Johnny for Distin, I just think Distin's distribution is shocking at times and leave the god Baines and Jags as they are. I'd then start with Cahill and Becks up front.
Okay, people may argue with the starting line-up but I don't think that is our real problem, it's how we adapt (or don't adapt, as the case seems to be) during games. I have to agree: Moyes seems to be making changes earlier than he used to... but what's the point of changing a striker for a striker if you are losing? If we're 1-0 down with half-an-hour to go, push Cahill up to make it a real 4-4-2 and keep the bloody strikers up there at all times ? especially at corners.
If you have 15 minutes left, play a diamond formation with Fellaini behind the front two to win flick-ons and maybe bring on Vaughan to replace Cahill so you have some pace up front; then, with 5 minutes to go, 4-3-3 and push big Fellaini right up there. I'm using the players as examples but what I'm really trying to promote is how to change the system in certain situations and make sure the team knows what is going on...
The game against Arsenal was unbelievable when Moyes went to a 4-3-3 out of the blue and the team didn't have a clue for about 15 minutes; we did get one back but it was a shambles. The game against Liverpool was another example: we we're winning but a bit under the cosh in the second half. I think due to injury, Moyes was forced to play two up front and it totally change the dynamic of the game. Instead of the ball coming straight back when our lads hoofed it up the field, the two upfront were winning the ball and taking the pressure right off the team.
It seems to me that, when we get a lead, the first thought is defend. The whole team sinks back to the 18-yard box and we soak up pressure until we concede, and then miraculously we start playing again. This should have helped prove to Moyes that being positive and attack-minded is actually a good way to defend a lead... but alas, he didn't watch the replay of that one.
I actually think Moyes needs to include the fringe players more; not much is working at the moment so why not try something new? I'd like to see something different... Try Bily behind the front man, he's shown more than once what he can do if you give him a sniff of goal ? and please give him more that 4 minutes.
Give Maygaye 20 minutes on the left... what do we have to lose? Give Vaughan a chance... I've always loved his desire and the boy can hit the net.
It's players like this that must be thinking what they need to do ? apart from pucker there lips and think of England ? before they can get a decent chance. Confidence is a big part in players and these lads have probably hit rock bottom.
Moyes needs to shake it up, have a positive game plan, and drill into the team the various tactics he may choose to adopt so the team instinctively knows what is going on and what is being asked of them. It will be great if we can get Donovan on loan again... Seamus and Donovan on the right, magic... but probably far too attacking for Moyes... we can't risk losing!!
I hope Pienaar stays but, in my opinion, the real creative player down the left is Baines. He makes Pienaar look better than he actually is and it won't be the end of the world if he goes.
I hope and pray we repeat last year's result against Man City or I'm going to become a snooker fan... Hopefully it will be a Merry Christmas ? starting on Monday ? for all the Blues out there.
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1 Posted 17/12/2010 at 05:07:55
2 Posted 17/12/2010 at 07:00:08
3 Posted 17/12/2010 at 07:59:14
4 Posted 17/12/2010 at 09:09:03
5 Posted 17/12/2010 at 09:12:59
If he is going to play the only place he should play is right midfield. He is getting Premier League game time and the opportunity to use his attacking threat when possible but, if he was to be the main defensive man on the right hand side, I think it would damage his confidence and set his progress back as he is likely to have a torrid time.
6 Posted 17/12/2010 at 11:55:45
7 Posted 17/12/2010 at 11:56:27
I agree Coleman is a liability in our area and he's been lucky not to concede at least 2 penalties this season. As far away from our goal as possible please, halfway line at corners perhaps?
Wholesale changes in the make-up too... Gueye for some reason seems to be drifting further from the reckoning and Moyes seems to have given up on Bily too.
The busy Christmas schedule could see a few of the fringe players given a shot, I hope they give their all... That's all I ask..
8 Posted 17/12/2010 at 13:44:04
Coleman has had bad times but players won't get better unless they are playing and if you have a player that never makes mistakes, more than likely you are watching Barcalona rather than Everton. I think he is so scared of losing that he won't give them time, why not go for it THEN defend a decent lead and sub them instead?
9 Posted 17/12/2010 at 13:36:02
Completely agree with giving players like Bily and Gueye some time on the pitch. Bily has shown flashes in the games he has played but has never been given an extended run in the team. I don?t think he can be judged on that. Players like him come in for criticism when things aren?t going well because he is not charging around, but in close games he is one of the few that can drop his shoulder (or skin a man) and fire in a rocket of a shot. He may not cover as much ground but goals win games.
I do think there is a lot of rose tinted glasses when it comes to Donavon. He is a good player and I would welcome him back this January because we can?t afford anyone better and we need the numbers; however some Evertonians exaggerate his ability and the likely impact he would have on his return.
10 Posted 17/12/2010 at 14:07:03
MOYES OUT !
11 Posted 17/12/2010 at 14:06:52
12 Posted 17/12/2010 at 14:14:31
13 Posted 17/12/2010 at 16:18:35
We all wanted him to get his chance, but, if he doesn't start producing soon, he will find himself back on the bench... and everyone will blame Moyes.
14 Posted 17/12/2010 at 16:53:09
15 Posted 17/12/2010 at 17:26:44
16 Posted 17/12/2010 at 18:58:43
Also, sign Niall McGinn cheap in January. He has pace, is a good crosser and is a worker. He has proved himself at international level and is just the type to thrive under Moyes.
17 Posted 17/12/2010 at 19:06:37
18 Posted 17/12/2010 at 19:20:08
19 Posted 17/12/2010 at 19:56:26
If you are going for a diamond then Fella is at the base.
Rodwell and Pienaar on the left? What? Baines has just discovered he's related to Mel Gibson and is now currently the lead actor in Braveheart 2. (We attacked a highland mountain and were victorious.)
Stuart I think the way Moyes works he'll bring on Vaughan to replace Steve Round, as in from not on the bench to on the bench.
The question is do I see ever decreasing circles...
20 Posted 17/12/2010 at 20:09:52
Dave, (Hanger 13) it's a shame Moyes didn't give the Yak a fair crack of the whip.
Since it's Christmas and we're on about whips then try this. The shortest ever tongue twister in the world is two words yeah? Ready, GIG (as in a carriage drawn by a horse) and WHIP. You need to try to say this as fast as you can 20 times without sounding like you've just had a three course meal involving for the main course, a bag of spanners.
I await your feedback. EG ? try it on the Mrs.
21 Posted 17/12/2010 at 20:09:01
I didn't mean to single Seamus out, but he was the player being discussed.
I didn't expect much from Neville, JH, Howard, Jagielka, but I believed if they could just be steady we`d have enough to go on and win games, they haven't even managed to be steady and seem to be in competition to see who can cost us the most points.
Seamus was different, we`d seen flashes of much needed attacking aggression before he came into the side and I was happy to support your persistent calls for him to play in front of a full back, but opposition recognised his threat, his agression is being matched and he is contributing little more than effort.
Despite the ridiculous denials, David Moyes benched Donovan 2/3rds of the way through his lone period. He wants power out there and he firmly believes Big Vic is the man ? that's why he has played him every time he even approaches fitness.
You've often accused Moyes of being predictable... surely you can see this one coming, all's it will take is for Vic to prove his fitness.
Sorry mate. I admire the way you fight the corner of your boys, but Ossie ? another favourite ? is rapidly approaching full fitness. Seamus has to start lighting fires, otherwise I don't see him staying in the starting eleven.
Let's just hope he does, eh.
22 Posted 17/12/2010 at 20:42:30
23 Posted 17/12/2010 at 20:45:26
In my opinion Dave Wilson is bang on the money with regards to Seamus Coleman. The lad always gives 100% but with regards overall impact on games his impact is very minimal. He has hardly given many left backs a difficult time has he? In my opinion, whilst always trying his best the effective runs down the right hand side that he showed us in his earlier cameo roles have been very few and far between since he has become a regular starter. I was amazed when he was awarded Player of the Month for November, just goes to show people can watch the same game and come out with complete opposite views.
With regards who is performing I would say Cahill, Distin and Baines. Also, I would add Pienaar to that list until he reaches the opponents 18-yard box when he seems to run out of ideas.
24 Posted 17/12/2010 at 20:56:11
Not sure whether you like him but our budget would probably extend to a winger like Matt Etherington.
By the way I love this guy. Can beat a man in front of him, a great cross and has pace to burn. Maybe getting on in years but he'll do as much on the left as Pienaar as ever done.
Even if Donovan comes back then Moyes should put him at the apex of the diamond behind Bex/yak and Vaughan.
It's very simple. Moyes needs players who are hungry. The players in our squad who aren't hungry should be Yesterdays news.
25 Posted 17/12/2010 at 23:17:06
26 Posted 18/12/2010 at 08:00:26
If things aren't working, then change is needed. Why can't Moyes see that?
It will be 4-5-1 against City, same players, and probably lose or scrape a draw. To win games, we need to attack and score goals. It's basically that simple, only an idiot like Moyes can't see it.
27 Posted 18/12/2010 at 10:31:21
We might concede a bit more but at least it will be be better to watch, plus it s not like Neville is defensively faultless!
Also put the Yak up front and tell him he doesn't get to eat any more until he scores.
28 Posted 18/12/2010 at 19:07:51
Whenever Seamus had brief time in midfield with Hibbert behind him, he was superb.
I still think we need an accustomed player for the right though...and if Pienaar goes we then need someone for the left as well.
29 Posted 18/12/2010 at 19:50:36
Agree fully about Seamus. The only thing I would say is having someone out wide who is pacey and direct makes teams play deeper and creates a bit more space for the midfield. His performance has tailed off but we need all the pace we can get. For that reason alone, I'd keep him in the side.
30 Posted 19/12/2010 at 19:45:59
Just 2 cents. Has anyone else noticed Coleman cutting in more instead of his usual dash down the wing.
This might be an attempt to mix things up a bit and give the defenders something else to think about, but it could be that there is nobody in the goalmouth to stick his crosses in.
If he is coming inside, then let him have a shot. Lots of deflected goals this season.
Also, I like the idea of moving Arteta around a bit to give him a breather from worrying about the defense too much and let his creative juices flow a bit more up the right wing with Coleman.
Keep Rodwell in the side and let him grow into the player we know he can become.
It's the same players so it's got to be confidence.
31 Posted 20/12/2010 at 08:51:08
Parking him on the wing so he can send crosses to the oppositions first man ain't gonna make any difference, he's too pedestrian to go back on the wing. He needs to play in the centre and if he's not in form then he shouldn't play from the start; it's one of the few positions we do have options for.
I think a lot of Seamus's problems on the right have been quality of ball given to him, fuckin Messi would struggle with the shit Pip serves up.
32 Posted 20/12/2010 at 15:11:51
What games exactly are you referring to? Hibbert and Coleman have never started a game together at Everton.
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