Is Denis Stracqualursi?s time at Everton picking splinters out of his bum about to come to an ignominious end? The Argentine sports media is speculating that Denis the Menace is about to be signed by the new manager of Independiente, Ramon Diaz.
?We are looking at Denis Stracqualursi,? Diaz was quoted as saying in the sports newspaper Ole, describing him as the player he would most want to have as he prepares for next season,( which begins in March 2012).
One newspaper described Stracqualursi as ?the goalpoacher who has played little or no football at English Everton? and another is already using the past tense to describe his time at Goodison: ?Stracqualursi?who was not used at Everton.?
If it's true that he is likely to leave having hardly kicked a ball I for one think that?s unfortunate and a waste of his time and of course our money for his wages. The Executioner?s Bong said this about him:
Stracqualursi topped the scoring charts in the Argentinean Premier Division last season, registering a shooting accuracy of 72% yielding 20 goals ? including a hat trick against Boca Juniors. He possesses good hold up play and most of his goals are headers from inside the box."
A 6ft 3 striker who operates inside the box, mostly with his head. No, we don?t need someone like that...
Peter Fearon, Posted 16/12/2011 at 21:45:42
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1 Posted 17/12/2011 at 02:54:51
All managers make dud signings at some stage, so while it'd be easy to hang this on Moyes' head, I think that would fail to take into consideration the various factors for his non-start that we the supporters are not privy to.
On the other hand, Moyes has always enjoyed a reputation for unearthing quality players who were previously unknown. On paper, Strac would seemed like one such gem, so it's doubly disappointing that he hasn't turned out as such (yet). More importantly, I have to wonder if selling Beckford before Strac had proven himself was a managerial misstep, and if Moyes' eye for quality bargains is beginning to wane.
2 Posted 17/12/2011 at 03:11:54
"More importantly, I have to wonder if selling Beckford before Strac had proven himself was a managerial misstep, and if Moyes' eye for quality bargains is beginning to wane".
What did I tell you. It's all Moyes' fault.
I won't be following the youngster but please keep me posted on his development in the top European leagues.
3 Posted 17/12/2011 at 03:21:17
Also, Peter's letter and my raising questions about Moyes are necessarily instances of Moyes-bashing, is it? Come on, we're not automatons, and we're all entitled to ask questions. That's how knowledge is generally arrived at. Just 'cos we don't share the same views, it doesn't mean you have to imply that we're Moyes-haters.
We all want the best for our team, and Moyes' managerial actions (e.g. tactics) of late have raised questions as to whether they're the best for our team, so I don't see why Peter's letter or my comments should automatically fall under the banner of "Fucking Moyes".
And, again, Strac's still an Everton player. In light of your sarcastic comments against him, are you still an Everton supporter?
4 Posted 17/12/2011 at 04:10:39
How could we be in such straights up top and Strac can barely get a look-in?
Moyes took a flyer on the kid. He's not up to the EPL, not he's not up to EFC.
Some manager in S. America wants to sign him? Good-bye and good riddance.
By the way, no sarcasm in my previous post. Strac is just another player not good enough for the England game.
Or as Peter put it, "No, we don?t need someone like that... :.
We sure don't.
5 Posted 17/12/2011 at 04:27:26
Well, you could say the same of Gueye and Barkley and Velios, etc, couldn't you? Not only that, you could also ask: "How could it be that we're in such straits up top and Cahill, Osman, Billy, Saha, etc, keep getting look-ins?"
The point is we are struggling and have been struggling for goals for quite some time now, and as Peter pointed out (ironically, in case you missed it), we can't do any worse than to field a "6ft 3 striker who operates inside the box" with an impressive goal-scoring record in the Argentine league. So, no, I'd prefer we didn't say "good riddance" but to give him a proper run in the team. What's the alternative? Stick with Cahill and Saha up front and wait another year for them to break their duck?
Strac may turn out not to be up to EPL standards, but that reinforces my point, ain't it, that one has to wonder if Moyes is losing his touch with unearthing bargain-basement gems.
6 Posted 17/12/2011 at 05:47:09
7 Posted 17/12/2011 at 07:06:15
8 Posted 17/12/2011 at 07:41:07
9 Posted 17/12/2011 at 08:29:19
Also, your "Moyes has let go of his own choice" is problematic, because Moyes has consistently said that it's he and only he that decides who stays or goes. That being the case, we can include Arteta to the list of players I've given you above, right?
And "but one element of Moyes management I trust is evaluating hw good players are" -
So, how come Moyes failed to evaluate that Strac wasn't up to premiership standard before he signed him?
Brian#8: "Why would Moyes give Strac a run in the team when Vellios is the only striker to have actually scored this season?"
Fair point, but it also raises the further question of why Moyes would continue to give Saha and Cahill continued runs in the team when they've not scored in ages.
I don't necessarily think that you guys are wrong in your appraisal of Strac. As I said in my earlier post, there may be factors that we as fans are not privy to, and that Strac may indeed be an average striker. My focus is on the questions it raises of Moyes' managerial ability (esp w.r.t. tactics and formation) and ability to spot good players.
Without counter-arguments that convince me otherwise (and not those which I think I've clearly rebutted here), and in light of Strac's pretty impressive record in the Argentine league, I can't help but think it's a shame that he hasn't been given an extended run in the team to show his worth. (And you can say that of Gueye and Billy in his natural position as well.)
10 Posted 17/12/2011 at 09:04:22
11 Posted 17/12/2011 at 09:25:20
12 Posted 17/12/2011 at 09:44:13
13 Posted 17/12/2011 at 10:29:56
14 Posted 17/12/2011 at 10:26:36
As everyone else we have only seen glimpses of Straq but what I have seen does not impress me.
15 Posted 17/12/2011 at 11:02:10
16 Posted 17/12/2011 at 11:19:28
17 Posted 17/12/2011 at 11:27:59
Just a name, any name to keep us quiet. Like Mcfadden & Donovan. Some posters have even called him a signing - wake up.
18 Posted 17/12/2011 at 11:49:40
19 Posted 17/12/2011 at 11:57:15
20 Posted 17/12/2011 at 12:02:08
He was slow, and showed a very poor first touch as well as falling on his arse about 10 times. All right in front of me.
21 Posted 17/12/2011 at 12:57:47
22 Posted 17/12/2011 at 13:00:59
So one game in a new club seals his fate?
Hardly fair,is it? I remember Bally having crap games.
Richard,true,he didn't play every game but if he's fit I'd expect him to play every game, maybe through the middle wth a.n other.
23 Posted 17/12/2011 at 13:22:24
Remember Boselli? Top goalscorer in 2010, Played 8 games for Wigan last season in the Premiership with no goals, before two loan spells where he has had little more luck. Santiago Silva was the joint top scorer with Strac last year, he has now scored 1 goal in 8 for Fiorentina.
It is a shame he hasn't had a proper chance yet, but Norwich today could be a good opportunity.
I'm actually a little bit thankful that it was a loan move rather than a transfer, otherwise if it did go bad for him we wouldn't be stuck with a poor striker for the long run.
If it's true he is on the verge of a move it may be implied by not being in the squad today.
24 Posted 17/12/2011 at 14:11:38
25 Posted 17/12/2011 at 14:54:46
26 Posted 17/12/2011 at 15:40:08
27 Posted 17/12/2011 at 17:16:55
28 Posted 17/12/2011 at 17:35:07
29 Posted 17/12/2011 at 17:39:31
30 Posted 17/12/2011 at 18:14:39
A shame, but Cahill looks like he needs a break from football.
31 Posted 17/12/2011 at 19:17:07
32 Posted 17/12/2011 at 21:40:12
33 Posted 18/12/2011 at 09:24:37
Australia for a month, no loss and might do him good. Now for Saha play him upfront with another striker and I suspect he will look like a different player.....
34 Posted 18/12/2011 at 09:43:26
35 Posted 18/12/2011 at 09:48:31
36 Posted 18/12/2011 at 10:17:47
37 Posted 18/12/2011 at 10:19:39
38 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:28:15
Maybe Stracq can be that player; I don't think many people would have rated Holt, but he's doing a good job for Norwich.
39 Posted 18/12/2011 at 11:24:26
Much as I appreciate the insight offered by training and do believe that a professional coaching team by necessity have far more insight and understanding than myself, surely nothing can replicate the actual white-heat of a match environment.
Right now we need goals and we should be giving all our attacking options a chance to prove themselves, especially when the old boys (Saha and Cahill in particular) are clearly not working out.
Unlike many on here I don't decry Moyes cautious approach on principle alone, it has after all seen us battle above our financial weight during most of his tenure. However, there's obviously a big difference in sticking to an approach that's eeking out points via sneaking single-goal wins and keeping clean-sheets, as opposed to one that's yielding relegation-scrapping form and sees us unable to convert more than one of 28 chances and conceding the 1-shot on target against newly promoted Norwich.
Playing defenders in midfield is clearly not working to make us more defensively stable and obviously offers less up front. Likewise playing Cahill as a forward/support forward clearly isn't bearing fruit and Saha isn't robust enough to survive as a loan front-man.
I don't want to hear anything else about not having the players for certain positions. We have wingers in Drenthe and Coleman (at least - maybe Gueye even and Osman at a push), we have forwards in Saha, Gueye, Vellios and Straq and we have central midfielders who can hold (Fellaini, Rodwell) and create (Osman, Berkley, Bily).
Now all I really want for Xmas is to see Moyes actually playing those players in position for once and let's see what happens. If we get hammered and it falls apart then fair enough, he can turn around and tell us all he told us so. But to be honest with the current approach not working, I really can't see what we have to lose.
40 Posted 18/12/2011 at 22:09:02
Drenthe on the other hand worried me when asked by some young supporters would he be staying at Everton said "I'm here for this season and enjoying it,I'm finished with them(Madrid), so at the end of the season I go where I WANT not where I'm TOLD to go." Very strange and worrying reply don't you think.
41 Posted 18/12/2011 at 22:35:55
I find his comments to be ok, he might stay, and he talks about this club being like a big family, so why wouldnt he stay, if he is offered a contract then I am more then sure he will sign it, but I doubt wheter Moyes will give him that. He is not impressed with his defending.
Agree with you on Straqualursi, he showed more in 5 mins. then Cahill did the entire match..
It truly is a non brainer as they say, and Drenthe and Straqualursi both need to start against Swansea.
42 Posted 18/12/2011 at 22:56:51
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