Midfielder hopes for quick return to action
The Belgian FA claim that the midfielder will be sidelined for three weeks — which would mean he will miss the game against QPR, and possibly the derby, as well as his country's next two World Cup qualifiers — but Everton are not putting a timescale on his absence until they can assess the injury when he returns to Finch Farm on Monday.
It now appears as though he suffered the injury in the 2-2 draw with Wigan but Fellaini reported for international duty as usual this week as the extent of the strain was not immediately apparent.
It is thought that the former Standard Liege man aggravated the injury training with Belgium ahead of their matches against Serbia and Scotland .
Fellaini has primarily been deployed as a forward so far this season, although he dropped back to a more familiar midfield role as the game progressed at the DW Stadium at the weekend.
Any absence may therefore provide an opportunity for Steven Naismith to press his first-team claims. Or, if Darron Gibson is fit for selection after the international break, David Moyes may push Leon Osman wide right and use Kevin Mirallas as a supplemental striker to Nikica Jelavic.
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834 Posted 09/10/2012 at 20:30:27
Just think about it; the big guy pretty much controls the air balls on the whole field... I'm not sure any of our other mids are over 4 ft tall!
842 Posted 09/10/2012 at 20:48:26
844 Posted 09/10/2012 at 20:58:52
We just have to get on with it. I'd like to think we could get by without him.
845 Posted 09/10/2012 at 21:00:27
I'm going to be optimistic and suggest that this is nonsense.
848 Posted 09/10/2012 at 21:07:30
849 Posted 09/10/2012 at 21:09:02
850 Posted 09/10/2012 at 21:16:24
Fellaini hasn't played well in a single derby and has often gone missing. He also contributed nothing in the games against Wigan or Leeds, contrary to the beginning of the season I think he's in bad form and has looked unfit (perhaps as a result of this).
If Moyes is bold and plays Naismith or Mirallas in that position rather than pushing Osman or Anichebe in there then we could see a very attacking, quick, dynamic forward 4.
851 Posted 09/10/2012 at 21:23:31
854 Posted 09/10/2012 at 21:28:07
Think it's bloody nonsense in all honesty.
There is no word from the official website either.
Gibson should be back soon along with Hibbert, so if only Fellaini is out for the the next two games then it really isn't the end of the world at all.
I do think if that's the case we still have good enough quality to beat either QPR or Liverpool.
857 Posted 09/10/2012 at 21:31:47
Fellaini isn't consistent, getting better at it but still not as important as Baines who is world class in my opinion.
Giving Naismith his old partnership for the game against QPR would be a good idea, but I doubt Moyes would put Anichebe in the same starting XI as Jelavic.
859 Posted 09/10/2012 at 21:52:18
863 Posted 09/10/2012 at 22:03:16
I'm going with Phil on this one; hopefully just tabloid drivel.
864 Posted 09/10/2012 at 22:05:26
He will be more of a goal threat than Fellaini,if Gibson is fit it will mean Coleman playing in front of Hibbo/Neville wide right.
866 Posted 09/10/2012 at 22:10:46
As for Derby match form when was then last time Osman played well in any big game and that includes all the Derbies over the last 10 years.
Hopefully he is fit but Gibson is back in training and there are others chomping at the bit to get in even maybe Hitzlsperger?
Having said that we know Moyes will stick with his ''pets''
868 Posted 09/10/2012 at 22:21:44
What if Moyes wanted to keep this a bit quiet?
QPR and Liverpool now have two or three weeks to plan whatever knowing Fellaini won't play.
870 Posted 09/10/2012 at 22:31:50
872 Posted 09/10/2012 at 22:37:36
Surely Liverpool/QPR would realise he was injured when he didn't play for Belgium anyway.
875 Posted 09/10/2012 at 22:41:52
It might actually be to Everton's advantage as I felt it was becoming a bit stale after only 6/7 games (every team trying to man mark him).
I agree with the above comment that Fellaini hasnt had a decent derby as of yet. In fact the last derby we won (2 years ago, Cahill, Arteta) Fellaini was missing for that game.
It's no worries from me he is missing for 3 weeks....3 months would be a different kettle of fish but 3 weeks.... no problem!
879 Posted 09/10/2012 at 22:54:41
I just think the Belgium FA should keep quiet.
Its fair enough to announce that he's injured and won't be playing for Belgium but not for us.
886 Posted 09/10/2012 at 23:25:03
Very convenient for the lad to be injured during the international break , I wonder if his father cum agent has something to do with this.
891 Posted 09/10/2012 at 23:46:03
893 Posted 09/10/2012 at 23:50:52
895 Posted 10/10/2012 at 01:00:41
Let's hope he will be back for the QPR match. It's bad, but just two injuries to important central midfielder/attacking mid players really has the potential to screw us up. We haven't got the likes of Ramsey, Walcott, Sigurdsson etc to come off the bench, like our competitors. I would imagine either Heitinga would come into the midfield, or Naismith would play behind Jelavic. Hopefully he will be ok though, as I'd rather neither happen.
899 Posted 10/10/2012 at 03:48:24
902 Posted 10/10/2012 at 05:05:27
If it's confirmed, let's get him back to Finch farm and start his treatment asap. The Derby is looming ominously....
903 Posted 10/10/2012 at 07:29:50
907 Posted 10/10/2012 at 09:12:39
908 Posted 10/10/2012 at 09:08:36
I don't think it's as big a loss as people are making out. Like I said, he's yet to impose himself in one of these games and I'm sure Brenda will see how easily rattled he was by Wigans cumbersome defenders on Saturday.
Anyway it's only saying he could possibly miss the derby. We've got a game before them and correct me if I'm wrong but aren't QPRand the Shite struggling at the moment? Two winnable games if we go about them positively.
909 Posted 10/10/2012 at 09:08:53
913 Posted 10/10/2012 at 09:17:45
My opinions on Fellaini are well known, I don't think he's world class. He put in a very good performance against Man U at the beginning of the season and I praised him for it but he has not kept up that level at all. He was quite good against Villa and Swansea but his performances were made to seem better because of the goal Given allowed in and his deflected header. After this I'm not sure if he's helped or hindered us to be honest. He was very much at blame for the loss to West Brom, missed an open net (also did the same at Swansea) and then allowed a runner to nod in the corner, he was anonymous at Wigan and was more of a liability discipline wise, whilst he put in the worst performance of the whole season at Leeds. World class players, your Ronaldos Messis Iniestas they don't do that, they don't have this level of inconsistency. the closest we have to world class in our team are Baines and Pienaar who play the same way every single game usually regardless of the opposition. Fellaini is one great game, 3 decent games, two terrible games.
Will the RS be soiling themselves over facing him? Past evidence would suggest not, have we won a derby when he's been playing? His only meaningful contribution has been luckily avoiding a red card against Kyrgiakos. He was anonymous in all three games last season with his best performance against Liverpool being when he still played for Liege. Add this to the fact that prior to the back end of last season our best form has usually come when he's not in the team, I believe we play better quicker football with more pace and rely less on the long ball to him. We played well before he came to the club and we'll play well after he's gone and we're certainly capable of beating Liverpool without him (as we have done every time we've ever beaten Liverpool).
914 Posted 10/10/2012 at 09:30:15
We can now play Mirallas & Pienaar in other positions and bring in the likes of Gueye, Naismith & Anichebe. Teams like QPR would probably have Fellaini a marked man and we could football them off the pitch next week.
915 Posted 10/10/2012 at 09:33:25
921 Posted 10/10/2012 at 10:09:23
I also agree with him being non-existent in derbies, so I wouldn't be too bothered if he never played against them, particularly as I think we would be better off playing Mirallas behind Jelavic because I think he would cut through that defence very easily. I may be wrong of course; we'll see.
923 Posted 10/10/2012 at 10:12:15
924 Posted 10/10/2012 at 10:18:18
There is every chance he played in the Gosling cup tie too
927 Posted 10/10/2012 at 10:27:02
928 Posted 10/10/2012 at 10:39:52
929 Posted 10/10/2012 at 10:40:49
931 Posted 10/10/2012 at 10:40:30
MF has played in 6 PL games against LFC with 5 losses and 1 draw.
Maybe we won't miss him as much as we think. At least the Manager of the Month has a couple of weeks to think about his tactics , better to lose him early than to lose him on the eve of a game.
932 Posted 10/10/2012 at 10:50:52
935 Posted 10/10/2012 at 10:56:26
He will be a big miss even if he does not have a great derby record and RS will be pleased if he's not in the lineup.
Happily we're not a one man team and should have Gibson to play alongside Osman in midfield with either Coleman or Naismith on the right and Mirallas behind Jelavic.
945 Posted 10/10/2012 at 11:12:53
One mans misery is another man's opportunity. Naismith is having a (enforced) 2 week break also, so time for him to step up and make it hard for moyes to drop him.
Also having a break are Osman, Hibbert, Neville, Pienaar, Distin, Gibson, Heitinga (prob wont play), Coleman?
953 Posted 10/10/2012 at 11:53:18
954 Posted 10/10/2012 at 10:53:19
Nev Jags Distin Baines
More than enough to beat both sides
960 Posted 10/10/2012 at 12:29:06
961 Posted 10/10/2012 at 12:23:49
We should play good stuff on the deck with this lot.
963 Posted 10/10/2012 at 12:42:42
The only wish I have for in the international break is that Mr Leigton Baines does not play a single nano second for Twatland. He is the guy that Everton can ill afford to loose - the man is irreplaceable, and if he does play for Wankland and gets injured they wont give a fuck and no one will give a shit except us. Needless to say I was over the fucking moon when Woy cleared Cashley for the San Marino game.
I don't begrudge Leigton his international duty but its not the 1990's anymore and playing for England means next to fuck all. For all the ejaculations over St Georges Park those bunch of fucking clowns arnt going to win a world cup of the European championship for another 100 years probably more.
In any case no one appreciates Baines like we do everyone would much rather fawn over Cashley and his pathetic tweets - fucking go ahead drop fucking rose petals for the guy but leave Leighton out of it. the press have only started climbing up Baine's arse when they realised cole could be suspended anyway.
966 Posted 10/10/2012 at 12:57:13
967 Posted 10/10/2012 at 13:00:38
Bit of a shitter really - Felli definately gives us options and teams do play defensively against us with him in the team.
For me Naismith has no chance of filling the hole behind Jellavic, his Leeds performance was shite plus he has no pace - Anichebe will get the nod for the QPR game, his performance in that match will then indicate whether he gets to play against the RS.
970 Posted 10/10/2012 at 13:08:18
The worst idea ever would be to count on Naismith hitting form with Jelavic again, because we have seen how poor he has been since the start of the season. This Naismith guy is trouble, too much out injured and too unstable a performer to be used VS the reds. Naismith is miles away from any kind of form, the cup matches have showed that even better.
The only candidate to replace Fellaini should be Mirallas. Remember you get what you pay for, and Mirallas has done a much better job then Naismith so far this season.
In fact I would count Naismith out until January, only then has he got a foundation to do well with. It is simply too early calling for Naismith to do anything since he has been out injured for a very long time, and a bad injury as well. Naismith is a pure gamble by Moyes, either it will work or fail, but I have seen nothing yet convincing me that Naismith is ready to start games and perform up front with Jelavic.
971 Posted 10/10/2012 at 13:26:22
No need for any rash decisions anyway. Hopefully Fellaini will be back before the Derby at least.
973 Posted 10/10/2012 at 13:27:02
Still it may be precautionary to hold him back from the internationals and I for one hope he is fit for the Derby match but even if not I still believe we will be too good for Roy Rodgers and his cowboys.
982 Posted 10/10/2012 at 15:02:13
990 Posted 10/10/2012 at 15:52:06
991 Posted 10/10/2012 at 15:58:15
994 Posted 10/10/2012 at 16:01:23
I just hope Baines doesn't play for England and get injured!
001 Posted 10/10/2012 at 17:30:57
"But he runs all day" is the direct response I get when I question his ability. He may have been decent in Scotland, but not in the premiership I am afraid. I can't remember who posted "we have moved on from this type of player" in a previous post but I had to agree. We have far better options.
002 Posted 10/10/2012 at 17:55:52
006 Posted 10/10/2012 at 18:41:30
010 Posted 10/10/2012 at 18:44:36
One way to bolster MF would be to put Oviedo at LB, Bring Baines up and put Pienaar into centre mid, but I'm sure that won't happen. More likely to see M Gueye left MF instead - oh dear! Drenthe would have been handy in this situation, but ...
If we ever played to Ossie's strengths he would be up with Jelavic, and would have many more goals and assists to his credit. That too, is unlikely to happen.
012 Posted 10/10/2012 at 18:54:54
The Good news is that he has avoided playing the 2 international matches and making it any worse. Also, Gibson is due back very soon so we may have a replacement to come straight it. On the downside, we don't know for sure yet how bad it is, but it can't be that bad if they are waiting till Monday to have a proper look.
Small squad and injuries are part of football. Time to just get on with it really.
016 Posted 10/10/2012 at 18:43:25
Everton will need seasoned pros for the Derby, players who can look after themselves and others. The big Belgian seems to become upset too easily and I would not be too unhappy if he did not start the Derby. If fit, the bench could be a good place for him as we could bring him on in the 2nd half and reduce the intimidation opportunities from the loveable Reds.
019 Posted 10/10/2012 at 19:26:20
We have a psychological problem against this wretched club and Felli paired with Gibbo brings a "fuck 'em" swagger that raises the rest.
Not one iota of hope should we give them while at their low ebb because they'll take it.
Make no mistake they'll be happier if he's not there, c'mon Felli.
020 Posted 10/10/2012 at 19:57:37
022 Posted 10/10/2012 at 20:39:27
023 Posted 10/10/2012 at 20:51:06
But to be honest, I reckon he was equally culpable re that injury against Liverpool. From my viewpoint he deliberately stamped down on the incoming defender's two footed tackle (Sotirios Kyrgiakos) would have done himself a favour by riding the tackle rather than stamping!
He can be his own worst enemy although he's certainly mellowed since that incident.
026 Posted 10/10/2012 at 21:08:27
027 Posted 10/10/2012 at 21:09:16
032 Posted 10/10/2012 at 21:42:21
Hibbert Jagielka Distin Baines
Mirallas Naismith Pienaar
Totally capable of being the piss out of QPR with this team. No way Fellaini misses the derby unless something far more severe develops out of this injury. They said Jelavic was out 2 weeks and then two days later....
037 Posted 10/10/2012 at 22:01:44
Will Hibbo be fit? No doubt about him being on the teamsheet if he is. But the young lad will be seen as a threat like Bale was (is). And Moyes double marked him with Coleman right MF.
And Peter, you've set up a lovely footballing team for QPR there. But it's still a Mark Hughes team, and Moyes will see it foremost that way. No Neville? Might be nice - RB if Hibbo isn't ready would do me, but he's likely to start.
041 Posted 10/10/2012 at 22:38:26
Peter#032, that would be the team I would pick, but Keith#037, valid point, suspect Pip will start, and Ossie will miss out. After thier Manager lambasted the teams lack of effort they will be coming full on at us and as usual the game will be a battle/attrition and Pip probably shades Ossie in that respect. Peters back four looks like it could stand that challenge.
Still hope Fella is there to destroy them and I am looking forward to being there.
046 Posted 10/10/2012 at 23:30:21
Neville/Hibbert Jagielka Distin Baines
Coleman Mirallas Pienaar
Either way we go, it's a strong team. Hughes has no idea what to do with that team he's got. No doubt that no away match is a cakewalk, but we are simply a superior team with more organization and solid partnerships, even without Fellaini.
050 Posted 11/10/2012 at 00:57:42
But what I meant to say was regarding "you get what you pay for" that this transfer was a major bet, perhaps just like Drenthe was, but Drenthe is now gone, a winger who actually did a very decent job on the right.
I can still not understand why Moyes did not hand him a contract, Drenthe saved half of our season with his goals and assists. Too bad he was his own worst enemy.
I miss both Donovan and Drenthe, these are two players that got me exited about Everton again when there was very little positives to find.
053 Posted 11/10/2012 at 01:11:21
How is Naismith going to change that, he has been shit because he is injury prone and too weak for PL. Naismith will need a long time to be used to the PL, he might not work out, but we paid nothing for him so it does not really matter. I can promise you right now, Moyes will NOT pick Naismith to play just behind the striker; as a right winger maybe.
055 Posted 11/10/2012 at 01:15:55
It's not often I can recall national newspapers taking much notice of one of our players being injured. And its not just because of his hairstyle.
061 Posted 11/10/2012 at 02:35:13
Hibbert and Gibson will be a huge boost for us, so not too worried if Fellaini is out next week.
065 Posted 11/10/2012 at 03:55:33
We have more than every chance this time against the RS and I think we will be fine against the R's. Team for derby and R's:
Neville/Hibbert, Jags, Distin, Baines,
Mirallas, Gibson, Osman, Pienaar
Subs: Oviedo, Anichebe, Duffy, Mucha, etc, etc.
Things are good!
074 Posted 11/10/2012 at 09:01:53
Fellaini cant tackle in general,every time there is a 50-50 he goes in to protect himself with studs raised.That is his first thought,not to win the ball but to make sure he does not get done.
075 Posted 11/10/2012 at 09:10:50
082 Posted 11/10/2012 at 09:45:47
085 Posted 11/10/2012 at 10:11:08
117 Posted 11/10/2012 at 15:47:59
118 Posted 11/10/2012 at 15:57:55
I am hoping to be back playing for Everton as soon as possible."
No mention of missing any Everton games.
123 Posted 11/10/2012 at 16:41:35
142 Posted 11/10/2012 at 19:57:54
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