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Ivorian signs in a reported £5m deal
Everton have completed the signing of striker Arouna Koné from Wigan Athletic for an "undisclosed fee", believed to be around £5m, although The Guardian peg the deal as high as £6.5m.

The 29-year-old completed a medical on Friday and has put pen to paper on a 3-year contract at Goodison Park after agreeing personal terms.

The transfer reunites the Ivory Coast international with Roberto Martinez, the man who last year brought him to the Premier League from Levante, after they finished 6th in La Liga, thanks in part to 15 goals from the Ivorian.

Koné hit the net 11 times in the Premier League and twice in the cup for the Latics last season but his goals couldn't prevent Wigan from slipping out of the top flight and back into the Championship.

The ex-Sevilla man is the first signing under Martinez's tenure at Everton and he is expected to be followed swiftly by defender Antolin Alcaraz on a free transfer. Speculation has it that the acquisition of the Paraguayan could be announced later this week.

And Martinez is believed to be in talks with goalkeeper Joel Robles about a loan switch to Everton.

Kone, who admitted on Twitter that he won't be wearing the number 2 shirt next season, won't link up with the Blues squad until the end of July. He has been granted extra time off following international duty with the Ivory Coast.

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Andrew Ellams
395 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:09:34
Deal confirmed. Hallelujah!!!
Kev Johnson
397 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:13:15
Praise the Lord!
James Martin
398 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:14:20
At least we've brought someone in upfront. Perhaps we'll start a season for once with more than two strikers on the books.
Phil Sammon
399 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:15:23
3-year deal. That's a bit odd isn't it?
Mark Tanton
400 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:16:05
Right then – Alcaraz by Christmas!
Kev Johnson
402 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:17:15
What, THIS Christmas, Mark? That's a tall order!
Jim Burns
403 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:17:30
Welcome Arouna.....you are now at a special place.
Mark Tanton
404 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:19:32
The new kit looks good in real life. He looks rather dashing!

Can we make another signing before September 1st?!

Chris Keightley
405 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:21:21
It's a good bit of business — possibly £2 million too high, but nonetheless I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

Welcome to Goodison!

Kev Johnson
407 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:19:48
The OS says "undisclosed fee". Hmm, maybe it's got so many qualifying clauses that it was impossible to quote as a lump sum. £500 extra per throw-in, £5,000 per goal, £10,000 if he scores the winning goal in a derby... £1,000,000 if we win the league!!!
Paul Ellam
408 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:23:42
Not too excited by this but at least it's a start! Far from a marquee signing though.
Would like another striker in to be honest and some non-Wigan players (Lescott, Fer etc).
Still think we are waiting on whether Fellaini goes before doing any major shopping, but that seems strange when clubs all around us are spending.
Will keep my fingers crossed as always.
Steve King
409 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:25:21
Took a while to get this over the line didn't it?!! I think it was due to Esso taking their time cashing all of Bills tiger tokens.

Glad to have him onboard though, I thought he was very impressive last season.

The question is, do we have any money left to spend? Unless we sell someone I think the answer will be depressingly obvious over the coming weeks and months.

Kevin Tully
410 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:23:49
This season more than any, we need to get players in early for pre-season.

Roberto will want to get us playing his style of football, and we don't want last minute signings where players aren't up to speed on their role within the side.

It's not so bad if you are going to be a reserve, with time to bed in, but I imagine Kone will be playing first team football as long as he's fit & firing.

My main concern this summer is a certain Mr. Baines signing a new contract, I want Fellaini to stay, but £23m can give us some strength in depth, if reinvested wisely.

I would be quite happy to see another two come in with no departures.

Steve Cotton
411 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:32:44
just waiting on Alcarez, Mcmanaman, Diame and Moses now thank God they are not all ex-wigan players....... (throws the bait out...)
Paul Gladwell
412 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:33:00
It's just nice to get a striker in instead of a right back who can also play center half and...
Jack Okell
413 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:32:51
Good singing. He will link up play nicely with Jelavic. I know he's a striker, but I don't think it's all about goals with this lad.

On a related note, why do we always sign for an undisclosed fee? Why the secrecy all the time? Aren't they publishing the accounts now anyway. It really pisses me off.

Brett Jonathan
414 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:33:15
Welcome aboard.
Score lots of goals and some of these harsh TW folk will get off your back quick smart!
Anthony Maguire
415 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:28:34
I wasn't too happy to hear we were trying to sign a 29-year-old journeyman but if he can come in and slot home 15 goals I'll be more than happy. Hopefully he can form a solid partnership with Jelavic.

I'm very interested for pre-season to begin so we can see what sort of formation RM will be going with.

Steavey Buckley
416 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:30:27
Due to the demands of the Premier League and Kone being 30 quite soon, I would recommend he gives up International Football asap if he wants to help Everton by improving is longevity. Steven Pienaar did and now we have a refreshed player after the international breaks.

I was disappointed he won't be joining the Everton players until the end of the month due to playing for his country at the end of the season. I do believe he misses an opportunity to know his new team mates more quickly.

Andrew Ellams
417 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:33:20
If we bring Alcaraz in and sell Heitinga that should be enough for a 2nd goalkeeper who is good enough to at least push Howard for 1st choice.

Just need another central midfielder with a bit more forward drive and another wide player. Am I asking for too much?

Andy Whittingham
418 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:35:40
I see he's tweeted that he won't be shirt Number 2 anymore – I guess 'cos we've already got a goalscoring No 2 :)
Kev Johnson
419 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:39:16
RM said he wanted a new player in each area of the pitch. So, presuming Alcaraz is coming, we're due another keeper and midfielder. I'm pretty sure the new midfielder is dependent on Fellaini going.
Chris Bentham
420 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:36:16
What a handful he was against us last year, gave Distin an Heitinga a roasting. Glad he's on our side now.
Bob Skelton
421 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:27:19
Great. A signing not on the last day of the transfer window or having to sell someone.....
Graham Tansey
422 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:39:00
I actually think Kone, Jelavic and Mirallas as an attacking 3 could be pretty good.

Get Alcaraz for free and sell Heitinga.
Get a youngish goalkeeper to push Howard.
Would love Honda to sign but that probably won't happen.
Make sure Baines signs a new contract.
If we can keep Fellaini then great, if not get Fer in.

That's all we need. (It sounds simple doesn't it lol)

James Marshall
423 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:47:12
Joel Robles as goalkeeping competition would be my choice.

Honda, Wanyama, Fer and/or Deulofeu in midfield as a preference. ALl feel somewhat unlikely though.

I guess time will tell re Kone, and he's certainly a handful.

Paul Thompson
425 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:44:43
There's previously been a fair amount of scepticism on Kone, but I think he brings qualities that we are short of - notably link and hold up play, and pace. He and Mirallas are great counter-attacking options. He's not going to be a 20+ striker (not for that money), but his record (discounting the injury ravaged Seville period) is pretty good at better than 1 in 3.
Andy Whittingham
428 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:52:42
Koné was a very good 'outlet' for Wigan last season, something maybe we missed when defending one goal advantages (thinking Norwich games here)..
Andrew Ellams
429 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:52:16
If we play a front 3 and they score 35 goals between them we will be in a good place if we can add a few more from Baines, Osman, Fellaini etc.
Andy Veitch
430 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:55:12
Do we lose him in the new year, due to the African Nations Cup ?
Chris James
431 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:58:53
And we're off... .finally.

Alvarez Alcaraz in next and then hopefully one of these other links proves to be something other than idle paper talk. Honda or the Barcelona boy would both be welcome additions.

If Felli is going to leave, he can go now too so all the options don't bugger off elsewhere.

Phil Walling
432 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:59:58
But is he any good at defending corners......???

Oh, I forgot – Davey`s moved on.

Steve King
434 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:02:38
Alvarez? That's a new one, who's he? Got a good foreign name, so yeah lets sign him up!!
Ian McPherson
435 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:03:34
He's Kone, Kone, Kone, Kone.... He's Kone all night long.

Apologies – it's been a long day.

Ifor Hughes
436 Posted 08/07/2013 at 14:55:24
Kone and Jelavic scoring 30 plus goals between them sounds more than good to me; Mirallas, Fellaini, and Baines scoring 25 plus between them... then it will be sounding even better.
Barry Stevens
437 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:03:01
He looked a top player at PSV. I think he will be a good signing. Good hold up-play, a bit of pace, vision and a good finisher.
James Martin
440 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:13:05
Him on the Right and Mirallas on the left with Jelavic in the middle could be a great attacking three. Eqaully if eh could get Moses in and put him on the right then we'd finally start having some options up front.
Robert Workman
442 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:18:19
[Just copied this from another thread - apologies if you read it earlier]
I have just watched highlights of the 3 matches against Wigan last season, to check out Kone. He looked lively, quick thinking, could make a good pass and was involved in and/or scored 4 of their 6 goals. I also watched some Youtube footage. He has a good shot in his right foot and is not afraid to have a shot from distance.
Brian Conrad
444 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:13:09
I'm absolutely made up we have got Kone, I think he will be a success at Everton. I have every confidence RM will be good for us. I've been waiting for years for Dour Dave to do one... can't wait for the new season to kick off. COYB.
Paul Mackie
445 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:22:24
More options up front is always good although like others, I think we've maybe over paid a little.

Still, anyone who can score 11 in a shite Wigan team should be able to do the business with service from our midfield/Baines.

James McPherson
446 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:20:44
An ok yet fairly uninspiring signing...it could be...should be..so much better for EFC. When you look around, it is so much better for so many clubs. So in the circs... we'll get behind him and hope for the best. My biggest hope is that this wretched board just disappear....and fast
Ben Jones
447 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:21:01
Just seen on Sky that Milan would prefer Honda in January, rather than paying a fee.

Makes it more likely us getting him now hopefully.

James Marshall
449 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:33:55
Honda seems more likely to go to Milan - mainly because he's been quoted as saying he wants to go to a 'top club' in Europe.

He can pick & choose really, seeing as CSKA have said he can leave anyway.

Barry Rathbone
450 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:30:47
Excellent news, with Victor Moses being targeted pace power and ability finally being sought by an Everton manager instead of defenders.

About bloody time.

Sam Hoare
451 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:35:34
If he was 23-26, I'd be delighted. As it is, I'm happy to get in a useful striker that Martinez obviously knows well even if it's a slight short-term solution.

I assume Alcaraz will be in soon and I would like to see Robles in as GK cover.

James Martin
452 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:43:07
Barry apart from Oviedo I can't even remember the last first team defender Moyes bought (Distin?). He tended to buy well in that area and keep players for a long time. Our other signings in that transfer window were Mirallas Naismith and Pienaar - before that it was Pienaar Jelavic Gibson - before that it was Drenthe Stracquilarsi - but yeah make up that Moyes just bought defenders if it suits your agenda- everyone else seems to be doing it.
Drew Shortis
453 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:34:59
Glad we are finally off the mark. I think this is a good solid acquisition from a team perspective and I'm very happy with Kone. Realistically we were never going to get a guaranteed 20 goals a season striker unless one of our start was sold. If we could get Honda (£6m), Moses (£7m) and Fer (£7m) in (£20m total) for the loss of Fellaini (£23m) I think we would be a much stronger squad. If instead Fellaini decides to stay that would be great too. For me the most important thing now is to get Baines to sign a new deal and I will feel confident for next season.
James McPherson
454 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:45:08
Sam 451 - 3 ex-Wigan players - yes?

This is all part of EFC kicking on to the next stage.

I understand the situation we are in and the financial limitations it brings...

However, let's not (as so many are) dress this up as progress.

It was time for Moyes to move on... but what has filled the gap has been totally uninspiring... yet so typical of what we can expect from this shambles of a board.

Steve Brown
455 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:42:39
Poor signing - far too high a fee for a striker of his age and scoring record. 29 goals in six years is truly dismal. But least we have three stikers who don't score goals now rather than just two.

Martinez is living down to everyone's expectations so far.

James McPherson
456 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:51:35
Steve 455 - is that so? 29 goals in the last six years which will be La Liga and Prem ( was he in Dutch league prior to Levante?)

That makes it all the more average

Jamie Crowley
457 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:48:38
Aa lot of money on a near 30-yea- old...

I can't help but think we should have signed a younger player for less money. But I am glad we've started to get business done this early.

Have to trust RM on this one.

Ben Jones
459 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:53:27
James #449

I think CSKA would rather the fee, and if Milan are unwilling to pay the fee, and we are, then it doesnt matter where he wants to play.

With this transfer, finally a striker with pace!!!! Age is an issue, but overall he's proven and a good signing.

Michael Kenrick
461 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:51:47
It's astounding how keen so many are to stick the boot in. Personally, I'm glad we have another striker, and a trophy-winning manager who knows him well... and no doubt wants him to score goals.

Can we please suspend judgement until there are some meaningful performances (that excludes pre-season) to go on?

Keith Edwards
462 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:56:14
What was it – 11 Premier League goals last season in a side that got relegated?? Imagine what he could do in a side that creates chances for fun. With Baines, Coleman, Pienaar, Mirallas out wide... could be promising.
Steve Brown
463 Posted 08/07/2013 at 15:54:10
James 456 – if we journey back in time I'm sure we could find he once scored goals at a high level. Dutch league in 2005?

He can't score goals in the Premier League or La Liga but sure there is a league somewhere where he would flourish. Oh yeah, of course, the Championship where both he and his former manager should be plying their trade.


James Marshall
464 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:01:30
Ben~459

This quote from CSKA might hint otherwise (I hope you're right by the way!)

“We are not worried if he ends up leaving the club on a free transfer.

“It is a difficult decision to make – part ways with Honda now or keep him until his contract expires.

“We are interested to know how this progresses. The ball is in Milan’s court now.”

Barry Rathbone
466 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:02:26
James Martin, I didn't mention "he who cannot be named" - I could have been talking about Walter!

Speaks volumes really.

Mike Green
468 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:02:07
Really pleased with this, just what we need to inject a bit of life into our frontline.

Martinez obviously wants to get off the blocks with a good first season so where does he look to improve first? Where were weakest, which is scoring goals.

So what does he do? Buys a striker.

I like him more and more each day. :)

Paul Thompson
469 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:03:57
Steve Brown: Kone scored 15 goals in La Liga in 2011-12 for Levante (who finished 6th and qualified for Europe). And did I jmagine his 11 goals last year in the Premier League? Try to offset you prejudices with the odd fact.
Tony J Williams
472 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:12:24
Can't argue with a quick Premier League settled striker. Scored more goals than ours.

Not a marquee signing but probably better than what we have at the moment, unless Jelavic stops shitting himself and going out wide to avoid shooting.

Dan Brierley
473 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:00:25
Welcome onboard Arouna, as with any player that dons the royal blue jersey your get my full support.

But this is not an inspiring buy from RM. Of all the strikers in the whole world he could have picked, instead he picks the striker from his old club. And if he is the best option, then so be it. But is he really the best striker available? I don't think so. Now had he tried to sign Jordan Rhodes, one of the hottest striking properties in the country that would show his intent on building a team for the future. Burning 6.5 million on a stop gap doesn't seem like good business sense at all. I would be easier to accept if he was 29 but banging them in. But the reality is, that he scores once every three games on average. Lets hope RM proves us wrong on this, and gets a better goal return out of the lad.

Steven Astley
474 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:17:22
I wonder if Tony Hibbert will vacate the Number 2 shirt for him...
Jim Knightley
475 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:18:10
Steve Brown...you do a really good impression of someone who knows nothing about football.

I'm pleased we have got him...would rather the deal had been around the 3.5 mark, but can't really complain. 5million is fair, and other Prem teams wanted him for that much.

Scored 11 for a Wigan team who scored less goals, and created less than us? and 15 for Levante the season before. Also gives us some pace, which is always a good thing.

We must bring in another central midfielder and wide player though imo... as our squad is too weak at the moment.

Drew Shortis
476 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:12:40
Kone's poor spell at Sevilla has not been indicative of his career overall. He had a good scoring record in Belgium and Holland and also at Levante, and 11 in 33 games for Wigan is a pretty good return. Good players sometimes suffer injury, lose confidence or just don't blend in to a team. It looks like Kone suffered from these problems at Sevilla, but overcame them when he moved to Levante to prove he could hack it in La Liga. To keep beating with the Sevilla stats is pretty unfair. We should be supporting our players, not belittling them before they have kicked a ball!
Mike Green
478 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:18:03
Personally I think Martinez signing him as his first signing is probably a better indicator of his potential with us than anything else. How many times have we seen players looking great in paper and You Tube to turn out to be, well, a bit gash?

Martinez knows what he wants knows what he's getting and Kone obviously fits the bill. I don't think Martinez is an idiot by any stretch, and Kone might not be RVP, but for £5m I'll think he'll do great.

James McPherson
479 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:13:43
Michael (Kenrick) 456 - What's going on here? Suddenly you are the champion of fair play!? Fair play that now extends to not being able to even post opinion prior to your criteria of evidential assessment being completed. I have lost count of the articles and editorial features that you have authored that have been somewhat subjective in their stand point. Have not always agreed with you - but have respected your opinion and your right to air it.

For a team whose next step is potential champions league I think the Martinez appointment is lacking in imagination and is uninspiring. Sorry if that opinion is 'premature' - but it's my opionion. The reason for this appointment being lazy and unimaginative is not down to Martinez but the complete impotence of our board. I agree to single Martinez out for personal criticism is undeserved. However, the vast majority of posts I have read are critical of the decision and the decision maker - not the candidate.

Similarly, Kone is an average signing. 29 goals in 6 years we here - good enough for EFC? - well no frankly. Registering that view on a forum is fair play surely. Else why don't we all wrap up now and reconvene in May?

Mike Green
480 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:28:00
Very well said Drew 476.
Paul Ferry
482 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:20:13
Sorry, sorry, a downer.

This has me strangely unmoved, though I
hope it works out v well,

One reason for my I-can't-get-that-excited
mood is reading at the same time that Swansea are
close to grabbing Bony for 13 million.

Inevitably, sorry, this has led me to reflect on the
relative standings of us and a club that came close
to slipping out of the football league altogether
not too long ago.

That happened in Teary Billy's time as board/crony
boos and, inevitably, it has led me to reflect on Luvvy Chop's (mis)handling of our precious club.

I;ll admit, hands up in the air, that there is a large dollop of nostalgia and longing in my mind too, as I just read the sections in The Official Autobiography when Moore took over the board and said to Mr. Catterick words to the effect of: we will spend spend spend to make Everton the best club in England.

Ah!.

Pleasant thoughts drifting through my mind like little fluffy clouds.

Ah!

Don't mean to be unfair to the lad - Kone - erm 30-year-old grown up, but I would be tapping a quite different post if we
had Bony down at Finch Farm.

Oh well, good luck to all concerned.

I suppose that someone will now post that dreary Ferry has
managed to turn a bright post about a brand new signing
into a rant against Kenwright, and, isn't he so churlish and'
childish using disrespectful terms like Teary and Chops.

Radio-5 reporting Kone cost 6.5 million.

Market trader.

Ok Luv I'll give you 2 Kones for 1 Bony, 2 Kones for
1 Bony, can't go any lower luv gotta put food on the
table for my 11 kinds, 2 Kones for 1 Bony

Dan McKie
483 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:36:41
Well said, Drew 476. Just ask those people how Arteta got on at Real Sociedad before us, or about Pienaar's spell at Dortmund.
Dan Brierley
484 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:31:50
Now I know this will be difficult for some people, but can you honestly imagine what your reaction would have been if Moyes had signed 29 year old Kone for 6.5 million?

If you honestly would have been happy about it and not questioned whether there was a younger striker out there with potential, then fair enough.

Ged Simpson
485 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:37:53
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get in !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just practicing

Ben Jones
486 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:38:05
Haha James,

Well played! I hadnt actually seen that quote. But let's hope we get him!

Ciarán McGlone
488 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:37:40
A reasonably good player who's around his peak..

Can't really complain about this one..

Ged Simpson
489 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:39:05
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. 484He's goooooooooooone..............!!!!!!!!!!!!! Leave it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And if you just want to snipe at people for some kind of reason or harbour grudges from when we had a different gaffa ..........well so be it I guess. Sad

Mark Scarratt
490 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:42:11
should give everybody a big lift
Ged Simpson
491 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:41:42
Nah James - it's miserable bollocks.

On what evidence ?

Umm - not sure but you'll provide it in time !

Tom Bowers
492 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:33:49
Why all the fuss about his age? Many strikers can still score no matter what. Just look at Lampard. The point is he will do what comes naturally if the midfield is playing well and setting up enough opportunities for the front men.
Martinez will put in place his own plan of operations and after the last 10 years I for one welcome the change. Some of the old guard have gone and hopefully some of the others will be phased out soon giving us long suffering supporters a new look that will be better than the old regime.
The Hibber'ts,Heitinga's,Osman's and Naismith's will not be missed.
Jon Withey
493 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:42:30
Managers love known quantities, anyone who has responsibility for other people know's why. If I were moving jobs I'd be keen on taking my favourites over unknowns.
James Stewart
494 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:43:04
He's a damn sight better than what we have which lets remind ourselves is the worst striker in the league in Jelavic and Anichebe. I would be very surprised if Jelavic hit 5 goals next season let alone 15. His technique was horrible for the most part. 5m for a striker who will get you 10 plus goals is not bad business.

Honda needs to be the main target now. Milan are in the pits as is Italian club football. No player with ambition would choose that over the Premier League.

Chad Schofield
496 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:20:03
Really pleased... seems to have a lot of tenacity and pace rather than rolling about on the floor beating the ground in protest because he's lost the ball *cough, cough* Anichebe.

Van Persie's "almost" 30 too... wouldn't mind him even for the astronomical sum of £6.5m.

Tony Marsh
497 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:45:36
Things are looking up — a signing in July? Dithering not on the agenda with RM it appears...

On another transfer, do we get any money from a sell-on clause if the Mancs sell Rooney? I am sure it was part of the deal all those years ago... 20% would be nice.

Harold Matthews
498 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:17:12
He desperately wanted to join us, and now he's got his wish I hope he makes the most of it. Good luck to the lad.
David Booth
499 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:52:20
Welcome to Wigan-lite everyone.

A 30-year old defender who spits would seem to be next on the list.

Roll on the new season...

James Marshall
500 Posted 08/07/2013 at 16:56:42
He desperately wanted to leave Wigan, Harold, and we happen to the the club where his ex-manager is now - I wouldn't confuse that with him being desperate to play for Everton.

It's also just up the road, which helps. Location. Location. Location.

Carl Sanderson
502 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:03:40
Wouldn't it be nice to have a No 9 again?
Paul Gladwell
503 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:03:15
Steve Brown, why bother mate, every post is negative, how often have you seen this lad play apart from the two games when he took our defence the cleaners last year?
Michael Brien
504 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:04:39
James #479 - the bloke hasn't yet played a match for us and already he is being judged.

Yes everyone has a right to their opinion. That's includes me as well - I hope that he proves to be a good signing - but I will reserve judgement, unlike you it would seem. I am just glad that we seem to be off to an earlier start than usual as regards doing transfer business.

And about our other strikers - we seem to be pretty quick to have a go at Jelavic. I recall Bob Latchford scoring 30 League Goals in 1977-78, the following season he managed 12 League Goals. I don't seem to recall any " misfiring Latchford" attitudes to be prevalent at that time. Moyes seemed to struggle with the strikers that he signed - were all of them bad players? I think not -it will be interesting to see how he copes with Man United strikers.

Keith Glazzard
505 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:06:53
We welcome the lad, and the fact that the new manager has brought in an attacking player. The writing has to be on the wall for Naismith.
Harold Matthews
506 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:11:02
Yeah James. Your probably right.
James Marshall
507 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:18:44
Harold - you don't want to argue the toss with me on it!? This is unheard of on ToffeeWeb! ;-)
David Greenwood
508 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:23:32
Welcome to Everton, please score loads!
Denis Richardson
510 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:20:14
Happy with this, I think he will definitely score more goals than last season as he's playing in a much better side. He has pace and power, which is what we've lacked up front for a long long time.

Also great to finally have 2 proper strikers at the club, giving each other competition. Hopefully this will give Jelly the push to also get back to where he was in the season before last.

If Alcaraz is on board as well then we just need to focus on a new CM as an urgent position and tell Moyes/Manu to F'off again re Baines - unless they put at least 20m on the table. Even then I'd rather not sell him as we wont get a better LB.

Still waiting for Naismith, Anichebe and Heitinga to be shipped out (cannot believe we rejected a bid for Naismith, unless it was for about 100k!).

When did we last sign someone on 8th July?

Roberto, Roberto, na na nana na na....

Wish I could fast forward month!

Kev Johnson
511 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:24:58
I''ll argue with you, James (507)! Arouna Kone has dreamt of playing for Everton since he was a little lad growing up in.... hold on a minute while I google it... Anyama. Yeah, Anyana, a traditionally blue district of the capital, Abidjan. In fact, when he was 11 he had a replica shirt with "Rideout" on the back. He told himself that one day he would wear the Everton number 9 shirt and score a hat trick in the derby. It's all in his autobiography, "King Kone". I'm surprised you haven't read it.
Paul Gladwell
512 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:32:42
I'm quite baffled about what some people are expecting for £5m, I mean Palace just paid similar for some Peterborough player, yes he's younger but so what and then you have Swansea paying the shite how much for sloth?
Harold Matthews
514 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:15:18
.........But I'm still pleased we've got him.
Steve Brown
515 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:33:53
Jim 475, unlike you who doesn't need to do an impression at all!
Steve Edwards
516 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:34:23
497# Tony. Never thought of that. There was all kinds of add ons in the Rooney deal. Maybe there is a few bob in it for us if he is transfered. Come on you little shithouse put that transfer request in and do us a favour for once.
Mike Green
518 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:37:05
Maybe when Martinez was setting Wigan up against us last season he thought...

'You know what Everton'd have a cracking team if they had a bit more bite up front. Put something like....I don't know....Kone in their team instead of ours with a bit of ambition and they could really tear someone a new one....'

And it came to pass....

Steve Brown
519 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:38:44
There is an interesting trend on the posts. Those who have traditionally been the fiercest critics of BK and the board are backing what I regard as his most bizarre decision of all – to recruit a manager who has just been relegated and then give him licence to go back to his old club and bring in players from the squad who led them to the championship. Including a 29-year-old for £6.5million who has not scored prolifically for years.

I am not being negative because I enjoy it. My honest view is that BK – who should not be allowed to even decide what crisps we sell at Goodison – has made a huge howler yet again. Anyway, I hope I am completely wrong but it really is a funny old world.

Harold Matthews
520 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:36:28
James. After arguing for most of yesterday with the famously fanatical Gibson fan club, I am enjoying a day of rest.
Paul Gladwell
522 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:48:56
Poor Dave Hickson R.I.P
Roman Sidey
524 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:41:26
This definitely feels like a new signing.
Michael Brooks
525 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:53:38
Great point Steve 519
Max Murphy
528 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:53:36
I think it's a poor signing. Wow 11 goals for a striker???!!! Are we supposed to be impressed by that? At 29, and scoring many of his goals from off'side positions, he's a waste of space.
And Chris (#420) most forwards gave Heitinga a roasting last season.
John Brennan
532 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:35:06
I'm just enjoying a glass of Black Tower after a tough and gruelling days work.
Well, why not enjoy a drop after the Lions win on Saturday, Andys win yesterday, (he isn't Scottish you know, he's British),and Kone joining us?
Great, I see it as a positive move.
Now all we need to do is thrash the Aussies in the Ashes, and get in 2 or 3 more potential Everton legends.
Cheers !!
Aaahhh!!! Thats better !!
Paul Gladwell
533 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:54:48
Fair comment Steve however I think you going overboard with your fee there mate, his clause was £5m and this is Everton we are talking about.
People are going on about his age and sell on fees, well are you arsed as long as he gives us a couple of good years? We sold Beckford for a similar fee and he's about to be given a free transfer and how old is he ? 29 is not an old man, what are you expecting for this price?
Karan Oza
534 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:59:42
I'm so mad I want to throw a kitten into moving traffic...
James Stewart
535 Posted 08/07/2013 at 18:09:56
David Villa gone for 4.5m now that is a bargain
Barry Rathbone
542 Posted 08/07/2013 at 18:09:45
Steve Brown, at all costs avoid the extenuating circumstances, certainly avoid the Swansea miracle and for goodness sake don't mention the cup!!!

I did but think I got away with it.

(Many posts remind me of Fawlty Towers on here)

Tony McNulty
543 Posted 08/07/2013 at 18:09:00
Happy enough ... unless I discover Yakubu is his uncle.

And whenever I hear Alcaraz I think of Alcatraz. Says more about me I guess.

Jeremy Benson
546 Posted 08/07/2013 at 18:16:29
BBC radio was reporting up to £6.5m.

Thats way too high in my opinion. We can't afford to be profligate with our limited funds.

So I'm disappointed by this to be honest, and thats a shame as our first signing should be much cheer. I hope he does well and I will get behind him (its not his fault).

Patrick Murphy
553 Posted 08/07/2013 at 18:17:58
£5m to £6.5m depending which information you take heed of, well it's a lot of money for us, but hang on a minute how much did we pay for Kanchelskis in 1995? £5m is not a lot of money in real terms - but it shows how far we have fallen in the pecking order.

Kone gets my best wishes and I hope he bangs them in regularly. How much have we spent on strikers in the last decade or so? Quite a lot - for us - Yak, Beattie, Johnson, Jelavic and Beckford and a few others including Saha. None of them arrived under such a barrage of criticism, but because he played for Wigan he is seen as somehow not good enough to play for Everton. Well Baines' hasn't done too bad has he?

I'm not over the moon about him but if he gives it a 100% and manages a few goals then he will have been worth the money - A younger version would cost in excess of £10m plus excessive wages, but we haven't got that sort of cash even if we sold Felli or Baines.

We really must stop being inverted snobs when it comes to new players, remember, beggars cannot be choosers.

Jeremy Benson
558 Posted 08/07/2013 at 18:31:40
I tend to differ - beggars have to choose carefully.
Tony Marsh
565 Posted 08/07/2013 at 18:31:38
The thing with Kone is, if he gives 3 decent seasons and scores 15 or more in each campaign, then £5.5M is chicken feed. I know he is 29 but Man Utd paid £22M for RVP and he was 29? We ain't got the money to dine at the top table so what do you expect for that type of money... Stop moaning — at least we have some pace for once which we sorely lack.

As I keep saying, Leon Osman was re-signed last month aged 32; he is useless yet no one says a word about his age regardless of a fee or not. £5.5 mill isn't big money.

Will Leaf
578 Posted 08/07/2013 at 18:41:10
Kev, problem is when Kone was 11 his boyhood hero in the Everton #9 was Andy Gray. Hence Kone continuing to dye his hair in homage. At least I hope he is dyeing it.

I will reserve judgement, but I'm not too comfortable with this reputed 6.5 million price tag.

Denis Richardson
584 Posted 08/07/2013 at 18:42:33
Steve 519, you must be one of the optimists on the site.

Why don't we see how he plays first before putting the boot in. The guy scored 11 league goals playing for a shite team last year. Stick him in a better side (ie us) and hopefully that 11 becomes 15-20.

Just because he played for Wigan here first doesn't necessarily mean he will be shite for us. If he nets 15 league goals or more this coming seaons, then he would have been worth the outlay.

I'm just happy we have another striker in the squad who's better than Anichebe!

Dan Morris
591 Posted 08/07/2013 at 18:57:02
I agree, Denis - give him a chance. The way I see it is that he scored more than Jelavic last year, both have contracts until 2016 (I think) and if we sold Jelavic now for less than £5 - £6 million I would be annoyed. Yeah Jelavic is a little younger, but he hasn't proven himself really - at least we have more options now, and I guess it's nice for Martinez to have a familiar face around the place too. Perhaps Moyes would like to bring a similar familiar face over to United with him, Anichebe maybe...
Colin Glassar
598 Posted 08/07/2013 at 19:03:55
Dan, I've still got hopes that Moyes will take Vic and Naismith with him to OT. He does seem to love them. Welcome aboard Kone.
Lenny Kingman
601 Posted 08/07/2013 at 19:07:44
Amokachi revisited. But I suppose if he can fire us to a Cup final like the aforementioned, and we win it, then that's a good start for the new management.
Ross Edwards
602 Posted 08/07/2013 at 19:10:28
Welcome to the greatest club on Earth, Arouna Kone!!

The Martinez era is under way now.

Peter Thistle
603 Posted 08/07/2013 at 19:03:23
6mill for a rubbish player on a 3yr deal ? Whats the point, depressing signing.
Ben Hayes
606 Posted 08/07/2013 at 17:53:37
To those saying he doesn't score a lot he scored 11 in 33 in the league in a relegated side sounds pretty good to me, we create chances just cant score so with him one side and Miralles the other we have pace, the season before he got 15 in La Liga, Before that he was injured and didn't play that much so cant be judged. Give the lad a chance and look at the prem league goalscoring chart last year he was next on the list below;

1 Robin van Persie Manchester United 26
2 Luis Suarez Liverpool 23
3 Gareth Bale Tottenham Hotspur 21
4 Christian Benteke Aston Villa 19
5 Miguel Michu Swansea City 18
6 Romelu Lukaku West Bromwich Albion 17
7 Demba Ba Chelsea 15
7 Dimitar Berbatov Fulham 15
7 Rickie Lambert Southampton 15
7 Frank Lampard Chelsea 15
11 Edin Dzeko Manchester City 14
11 Theo Walcott Arsenal 14
13 Sergio Aguero Manchester City 12
13 Santi Cazorla Arsenal 12
13 Adam Le Fondre Reading 12
13 Juan Mata Chelsea 12
13 Wayne Rooney Manchester United 12

Apart from Le Fondre or maybe Lambert can you see us getting anyone for 5mill that would come to us???

COYB

Ged Simpson
612 Posted 08/07/2013 at 19:18:15
Beggars must be careful choosers but in the end we choose from what is on offer at Farm Foods and Aldi.

Jesus, the sun has got to me..........that really is a shite comment but I am happy enough as we all spout varying degrees of crap as we wait for the season to start again.

I may begin a post analysing the skills of Mick Bernard just for the hell of it...

Kev Johnson
619 Posted 08/07/2013 at 19:28:20
Will @ 578, are you saying that Kone is not 29 going on 30 but actually, in a Yakubuesque twist, 39 going on 40? That would be a shock, admittedly. Otherwise, you need to get your abacus out again, mate. By my calculations, 18 years ago in 1995 Kone was 11. It was the year we won the cup and as I recall, Mr P Rideout was out CF. He hustled, he bustled, he - I don't know, gustled. He wasn't what you might call a hot shot but he was definitely our number 9.
David Chait
622 Posted 08/07/2013 at 19:49:51
And in the meantime Swansea get Bony for £13 m reportedly... Younger.. Better record... Just saying like.
Roberto Cecere
625 Posted 08/07/2013 at 19:55:09
Well said, Ben, give him a chance.
Tony J Williams
626 Posted 08/07/2013 at 19:58:15
Hence more than double the price tag David, so definitely out of our league.
Pete Gorman
627 Posted 08/07/2013 at 19:56:05
This is a, to be frank, a bullshit signing. People rave about Kone for his hardwork and skill but his goal-scoring record is nothing to crow about and he is in all aspects a more technical Stracqualursi.

The fee is the biggest concern for me, a flagrant waste of precious pennies; we simply can not afford such a pointless signing. It irks me as well to recall that Lewis Holtby (a sorely-needed winger) cost Spurs the princely sum of £1.5M which we presumably could not compete with and yet, when we have the money, it is wasted on mediocre journeymen like Kone.

I'd echo some of the earlier points, Martinez is underwhelming so far – I understand the merits of going with what you know but I was hoping he'd appreciate the step up in the club's stature.

Ian Bennett
629 Posted 08/07/2013 at 20:05:44
Looks a short term move, but we really need to look at the summer dealings as a whole.

The move will look good if he scores his worth, and even better if we can out a fringe player for a decent fee (Naismith), but will look pretty poor if we have squandered our pennies if the inevitable happens and we have to cash in on the better players. I understand where Pete is coming from.

Frank Crewe
633 Posted 08/07/2013 at 19:52:43
If Moyes had bought Michu before anyone had heard of him for a small fee everyone would have been moaning and griping about the worst signing ever. Yet look at all the goals he scored.

Between them Liverpool and West Ham have paid £50M for Carroll's dubious services... Is Carroll 10 times better than Kone?

The fee clubs pay does not relate to how effective that player will be for a given club. He's a player Martinez likes and wants in his team. In three years he'll leave the club as a legend, a flop, or somewhere in between. Who knows? Let's give him a chance and then we'll find out.

For those of you who worry about sell-on, well Fellaini is the prime example. We bought him when he was 20. We could sell him now for £10M more than we paid yet I'm sure the vast majority of fans don't want him to go.

I don't want Everton to be a club that simply grooms players for other clubs so that they can get the best years out of them. I want Everton to get their best years.

John Crawley
635 Posted 08/07/2013 at 20:29:38
Thought Mr Whelan was on record as saying we have met the £5 million release clause, so how can the fee be £6.5 million?
Ray Robinson
636 Posted 08/07/2013 at 20:33:03
Slightly concerned that, despite his 11 league goals last season in a struggling Wigan side, I don't think that he's the prolific striker that we need. Still, he is pacey, works hard, can hold the ball up and who knows, may herald the start of a two up front system which could rejuvenate Jelavic?
James Hughes
637 Posted 08/07/2013 at 20:23:19
I love being a blue — not signing players... we complain; sign someone... we complain that they aren't good enough.

Ben # 606 has hit the nail on the head: look at the players who scored 12 or more out of our price range, agreed? Or are we gonna argue squad rotation for the others (was gonna say larger, but couldn't).

Also, we don't want to sell our top players because, under Luvvie, every time we sold a top player, our debt seemed to increase... I can't figure that one out either.

Anyway, rumuor has it that old BK is selling his ass on Lime Street, so that will soon clear the bills, won't it.

Remember, it could be worse — you could be RED!! Now I feel ill...

Mark Frere
638 Posted 08/07/2013 at 20:30:08
Frank. Like it or not we have to be a sell to buy club, that is the only way to go for a club like us with our board running the show. If we let all our players get the grand old age of 35 without selling them.... we wont have any money left to buy anyone.

We should be copying FC Porto business model, that is the only way for us to survive while BK and his cronies are at the helm

Phil Walling
640 Posted 08/07/2013 at 20:37:18
We now have six of the players and staff who got Wigan relegated last season.With two more to follow soon,what price we will be the next to struggle?
Kevin Tully
641 Posted 08/07/2013 at 20:40:21
Watched loads of games (especially away) when we have been crying out for a player who can hold the ball in the last third, hopefully he's the man we need.

I haven't really seen much of Kone, and I doubt very much anyone slagging him has either, and a few highlights on MOTD doesn't count.

Let's give him half a season before we pass judgement.

Ian Bennett
643 Posted 08/07/2013 at 20:49:27
You have to wonder why no one else looked at Michu. 17 goals in La Liga for an unfashionable club and £2m. Odd.
Ben Hayes
644 Posted 08/07/2013 at 20:47:13
I like that we have Kone but just seen that Barcelona have accepted £4.4Million for David Villa, I know he is 31 and has no resale value but I'd snap him up, yes wages would be out of our league but well £4.4Million???
Ross Edwards
648 Posted 08/07/2013 at 20:52:49
"We should be copying FC Porto business model, that is the only way for us to survive while BK and his cronies are at the helm"

Mark, good idea, but Porto are a selling club, Moutinho, Rodriguez, Falcao, Deco, Hulk, Meireles, Pepe Quaresma, Bosingwa, all being sold in the last decade.

Also, Porto's managers seem to stay for about 2 years before leaving, Mourinho stayed for 2 and a half years, AVB just 1, Pereira 1 and a half.

Considering they had all of these top players, they haven't had as much success in Europe in the last decade since the CL win in 2004 and winning the Europa in 2011.

You'd think that Porto would get further in the CL than the last 16 every year, so there must be a problem there considering Malaga who were in financial turmoil last year getting to the CL semi final.

All we need is a Russian, similar to that guy who owns Monaco now who has money, because unless someone makes a firm offer, we could be stuck with our useless board and incompetent chairman for a good while yet sadly.

John Daley
652 Posted 08/07/2013 at 21:10:45
"He can't score goals in the Premier League"

He scored more than any forward we had on the books last season, in a team that was under the cosh most weeks. Unless I imagined it or it was some sort of fake footage shot on a soundstage.....a kind of Kone conspiracy....like the moon landing.

John Daley
654 Posted 08/07/2013 at 21:11:24
"Of all the strikers in the whole world he could have picked, instead he picks the striker from his old club"

Err....that's probably the exact reason he's bought him. Kone is a player he's managed before, whose strengths he's fully aware of, who gives us something we badly need (pace), is available at a reasonable price and who is eager to play under his ex-boss again: Sounds like an obvious and logical choice.

What's he supposed to do? Ignore Kone's credentials and instead take a gamble on someone else he knows much less about...simply because they're a bit younger....and never played for Wigan? What did you expect? Oh, sorry, I forgot he apparently had his pick of "all the strikers in the whole world". Martinez has obviously spent the last week rubbing fuck out of Aladdins Lamp if he's now been granted an unlimited budget and pulling power of such potency that every forward in the world game is sat by the phone with their bags packed just waiting for his proposition.

'But....he's almost 30!!' they cry, 'He's so old that everyone calls him Spider-Man. Not because he's got super powers or anything like that......he just struggles like fuck to get out of the bath'.

Really? Damn. That is ANCIENT. He'll probably need drenching in formaldehyde after every game just to ensure he doesn't disintegrate into dust by December.

Ok, that might have been overly sarcastic and I do realise that the main reason his age is continually brought up is because of the lack of potential 'resale value' but surely that should not concern us or the manager. When you're looking to bring a player in then the key criteria has got to be what he will add to the squad here and now, not the amount you might be able to make when you finally give him his marching orders. As long as he delivers throughout the length of his contract and performs successfully in the role he was brought in to play then surely that represents money well spent?

Anthony Flack
655 Posted 08/07/2013 at 21:15:23
Why the fuck would David Villa want to play for us? Get real, Ben — nice idea, though.
John Daley
656 Posted 08/07/2013 at 21:15:03
".... can you honestly imagine what your reaction would have been if Moyes had signed 29-year-old Kone for 6.5 million?"

Like when he signed the near 32-year-old Distin for £5m you mean?

Ben Hayes
661 Posted 08/07/2013 at 21:20:32
Anthony - cus we are Everton, although that only works if he supports us like we do and cant imagine that, and know its not going to happen but what a bargain even with no sale on fee
David Chait
668 Posted 08/07/2013 at 21:38:40
I know Tony... Everything in that annoys me... Especially even Swansea can fund that amount over a club as big as Everton.
Wayne Smyth
670 Posted 08/07/2013 at 21:43:12
David, perhaps its because Swansea are operating off a much lower cost-base than us?

Under Moyes and BK's tenure, we've sold most of our fixed assets and borrowed about £40M to fund player purchases and salary. You can't keep spending forever unless you have a rich backer.

Mark Dunford
672 Posted 08/07/2013 at 21:43:07
Far too many people seem willing to condemn Kone and Martinez before a ball has been kicked. Kone's record is roughly what you'd expect for a fee of £5m and while his age is an issue, it will go away if he scores 40 goals+ in three years. His signing adds depth to the squad and he is in the age range where we need players.

Critics should hold fire till we have a clear idea of exactly what the squad will be at the end of August. Jumping to conclusions is either silly or shows people have too much time on their hands. In both cases, it may be better to think before typing.

Paul Andrews
675 Posted 08/07/2013 at 22:12:17
I will have a decent bet he gets 15 goals next season.
Just getting on Oddschecker to find the odds.
Ray Atherton
678 Posted 08/07/2013 at 22:00:35
What a lot of blues on this subject have not mentioned, he did turn Newcastle down. I am certain that they would have gazumped us, but the lad chose us, good on him.
Paul Andrews
679 Posted 08/07/2013 at 22:16:09
No odds available yet.
Anyone sees the odds post details please.
Pete Gorman
680 Posted 08/07/2013 at 22:13:55
Mark, it is not jumping to conclusions to opine that we have paid too much for a player we don't really need. That opinion that many seem to have on here is based on knowledge of our current squad and knowledge of Kone himself.

Just because we have time on our hands doesn't mean we aren't thinking!

Kevin Day
681 Posted 08/07/2013 at 22:10:47
Let's put this into perspective, 29-years-old, said figure between 5-6.5 million.

Manure paid well over £20 million for a 29-year-old RVP.

My personal opinion is he'll get us 15 goals this coming season, maybe a bit less, maybe a bit more, but he could be the difference between success and failure, because let's face it, the margins are very slim in that department in the Premier League.

Mike Green
683 Posted 08/07/2013 at 22:06:57
John Daley #654 - don't bring logic into this please! Excellent post.

We buy Stones - one for the future etc - people bitch because he doesn't get played and we need players now.

We have Barkley - people bitch because he should be getting game time now but the powers that be don't think he's ready, so he gets eased in.

We buy Kone - who's ready to play now, could be more or less at his peak this season, is a STRIKER FFS - remember people - goals, entertainment, points, the sexy stuff we should be getting excited about and he's on a plate and the reaction is....

People bitch.

John Daley #656 - my reaction would've been 'that's another striker Moyes is going to mismanage, isolate and ultimately fuck up then.'

Craig Robb
689 Posted 08/07/2013 at 22:25:57
I haven't been this excited since we signed Mark Pembridge.
Colin Wainwright
690 Posted 08/07/2013 at 22:29:22
Twenty goals next season. Tellin' yer!
Colin Glassar
693 Posted 08/07/2013 at 22:32:32
Well he scored more goals than either Vic or Jelavic last season so with the help of Bainsey, Pienaar, Mirallas etc... He should score a lot more.
Ian Bennett
697 Posted 08/07/2013 at 22:40:55
Craig - I see your Mark Pembridge, and raise you John Spencer, Claus Thomsen, and Tony Thomas. I bet the marketing team must have braced themselves.
Patrick Murphy
707 Posted 08/07/2013 at 23:06:23
Just in case there has been a collective outbreak of amnesia for some members on this site – here is a list of Everton's top goalscrorers in the PL era, not a single player has managed 20+ goals, Kanchelskis is the most potent in a single season with 16 goals.


2013 Fellaini - 11
2012 Jelavic - 09
2011 Cahill - 09
2010 Saha - 13
2009 Cahill/Fella - 08
2008 Yakubu - 15
2007 Johnson - 11
2006 Beattie - 10
2005 Cahill - 11
2004 Rooney - 09
2003 Campbell/Radz - 11
2002 Ferguson/Radz - 06
2001 Campbell - 09
2000 Campbell - 12
1999 Campbell - 09
1998 Ferguson - 11
1997 Ferguson - 10
1996 Kanchelskis - 16
1995 Rideout - 14
1994 Cottee - 16
1993 Cottee - 12

So Kone would have been hailed a hit if he managed his PL tally last season, in most PL seasons if he had have worn the blue of Everton rather then Wigan.

Mike Green
709 Posted 08/07/2013 at 23:28:23
Patrick #707 - please go and sit in the naughty corner with John Daley #654 for bringing logic into the argument. This just will not do!
Karl Meighan
712 Posted 08/07/2013 at 23:22:59
A solid signing, a better version of Anichebe with more goals I'm hoping for. Seville paid a fortune not so long back; if he gets us 15+ and helps to create for others, he shouldn't get any complaints.

For strikers who are top notch, who almost guarantee 20+ a season, the starting price is £25m and very rarely do they sign for clubs outside the Champions League.

Clive Lewis
716 Posted 08/07/2013 at 23:51:13
Well I am a bit disappointed, Kone a 30-year-old with no sell-on value. it could be another Bakayoko! Oh no are we going backwards already. Trying to look positive over this but fear it might be a waste of resources.

The only way this could possibly pay off is if we got into Europe because of the goals he scores. It could work but I suspect and hope we see a new Jelavic this season, now that Moyes and his 'kick up the backside' attitude has gone.

Jamie Sweet
718 Posted 08/07/2013 at 23:46:04
Interesting to see the stats laid out like that Patrick #707.

So Everton Legend Duncan Ferguson never broke through the magical 11 goal mark in the 11 seasons he played for us.

Looking down that list, it becomes evident that Kone doesn't really have particularly big boots to fill.

Personally I think he'll do well and am happy to see him at Goodison.

It's sad that we all think that £5m is such a huge amount of money when all that can buy you in today's market is someone as distinctly average as Jonjo Shelvey.

I think Kone has looked a £20m player at times when I've seen him. Can't wait for him to start banging them in for us!

Brian Wilkinson
727 Posted 09/07/2013 at 03:08:30
We all know it will not happen but I'm convinced if Everton signed Messi some would still find a fault and say he was too small for the Premier League or something along the lines of that.

Let's just give the guy a chance and any other players that may come in before the start of the season. Trust Martinez's judgement and let's all be positive and get behind Everton Football Club. Both Martinez and Kone at least deserve that.

William Mctaggart
728 Posted 09/07/2013 at 03:31:04
Shame that Benteke has just put in his transfer request, imagine him with Mirallas. Still, I think Kone is a decent purchase.
Will Leaf
732 Posted 09/07/2013 at 05:26:41
Sorry Kev, was going for the Yakubuesque angle there, joking about an 11 year old Kone sat in front of the telly, cheering on our mid-80's heroes.
Paul Andrews
735 Posted 09/07/2013 at 06:43:13
I think there is a good chance this lad will end up at the top of the list posted by Patrick Murphy.
16 goals are well within his capabilities.
Ben Hayes
746 Posted 09/07/2013 at 08:51:40
Brian 727 made me laugh and you are probably right, everyone can have an opinion, I just want to know what people who don't want or rate Kone would accept is a good season? 13 goals and 8 assists do for 2 seasons? maybe a bit less for the third if his pace goes,as I feel that's what he will bring, so what do others expect for 5 million?
Ciarán McGlone
750 Posted 09/07/2013 at 09:11:04
Mr Murphy,

Is that list Premier League goals only?

It doesn't look right...

Craig Rowan
757 Posted 09/07/2013 at 09:34:57
Come on fellas, we signed Yakubu for 11 mil when he was 42, surely Kone has got years ahead of him.
Michael Brien
759 Posted 09/07/2013 at 09:28:15
If we signed David Villa and Lionel Messi - there would be moans from some Evertonians.

Kone scored about the same number of goals as our top goalscorer last season. In a struggling team.

We moan when we don't sign a player and then moan when we do.The manager brings in his back up staff from Wigan - and gets slated because they were relegated and these where the people who led them to the Championship.I doubt whether Alex Feguson or Arsene Wenger could've saved Wigan from relegation.You can only work with the resources that you've got - Wigan had possibly the lowest transfer budget in the Premier league so they were always going to struggle.

I have to laugh when pundits like Alan Hansen will slag off the bad defending of the likes of say Fulham, West Brom, Wigan etc when they play against the likes of Chelses/Man City/Man United/Arsenal. These teams can't afford to pay £25M+ to sign World Class defenders.

Martinez was always going to have a struggle on his hands at Wigan.What were Man City before the Arab money poured in ? An average Premier League club - some would say underaceiiving - over 40 years without a title win and over 40 years since an FA Cup win - last trophy prior to the 2011 FA Cup was the League Cup in 1976.Oh I was forgetting they got relegated to the Third tier. MOney changes everything. We haven't got shed loads of money - so get used to it. Not many clubs have - Arsenal have had a bid of £30M for Suarez turned down - how many PL clubs can afford to bid £30M for one player ? Not many I would suggest,

Our new manager has paid out for a player that he knows a lot about. Less of a risk I would think than a player he hasn't worked with. Will he be a good signing ? I don't know - I hope that he is - but I prefer to reserve judgement - unlike some it would seem.Some of you are so sure that he is a bad signing - presumably you are all lottery winners because you are so sure of things !!!!

Sam Hoare
760 Posted 09/07/2013 at 09:46:49
I think Kone is a good player. Do I see him as the striker we need to gatecrash the top 4 or 5? Probably not but then maybe that was always long shot.

If the lad scores 15-20 goals for the next 3 seasons then it will be will be looked upon as a good or even great purchase. At the moment all I can see is that he appears to have some qualities that our strikers lack (mainly mobility) even though I do think it is blinkered to not consider the implications of spending our meagre resources on ageing players.

Ciarán McGlone
761 Posted 09/07/2013 at 09:58:16
What I like about Kone - is that (unlike Jelavic) he can play football..

There's always something special about a forward who can do stuff with the ball at their feet...At least if he goes through a barren spell he can still contribute..

The likes of Jelavic - who is a one touch player - has absolutely nothing to bring to the team whenever his 'one touch' deserts him...

Kev Johnson
763 Posted 09/07/2013 at 10:03:38
I do like a footballer who can play football.
Joe Digney
764 Posted 09/07/2013 at 10:01:01
I'm happy with the signing of Kone; he will give us much needed pace and power upfront and won't constantly be on his arse, but I feel him and Alcaraz will be the only signings until someone is sold.

I'd love to be proved wrong and he brings in Honda and Moses over the next few days but sadly it won't happen and we will see Fellaini or Baines go instead.

Andrew Ellams
768 Posted 09/07/2013 at 10:11:33
Spot on Ciaran, he can score goals that neither Jelavic or Anichebe ever will and he is capable of tapping from 6 yards when needed too
Patrick Murphy
774 Posted 09/07/2013 at 10:26:10
Ciarán Yes indeed it is Premier League goals only, it might not look right, but according to the stats on this very website that is correct.
Ciarán McGlone
775 Posted 09/07/2013 at 10:34:56
Premier League goals doesn't exactly tell the whole story ....

If memory serves me right, the Yak had over 20 at one stage..

Ciarán McGlone
776 Posted 09/07/2013 at 10:36:04
I do like a footballer who can play football.

---------------------------

haha...i'll take that.

As long as you acknowledge we have a few that can't!

Kev Johnson
778 Posted 09/07/2013 at 10:40:54
True enough, Ciaran, true enough!
Patrick Murphy
780 Posted 09/07/2013 at 10:37:44
I personally think that PL goals do tell the story Ciraran, how many cup goals did Dixie, Bob Latchford and Gary Lineker score in their record breaking seasons? I don't know off the top of my head, because they aren't the bread and butter, whereas league goals tend to dictate what sort of season the player and the club have had.
Jim Knightley
783 Posted 09/07/2013 at 10:46:34
Patrick, I don't think Ciaran's saying goals are not important...but how much more does a player like Suarez, who sets up so many chances, and is so involved in the play, contribute compared to someone like Yakubu?

A great representation of this was seen in Bayern's team this year. Gomez, who I personally think would score over 20 goals in a top team every season in the Premier League...was left on the bench after returning from injury in favour of Mandzukic. Now Mandzukic does not score as many goals as Gomez...but he works about as hard as any footballer in world football, and brings other players into the game. A player that does too thinks well, may be better than one that does something very well.

Matt Muzi
785 Posted 09/07/2013 at 10:39:39
While I’m happy to see Kone come in and feel that he offers something different to the team, the price we paid and his age are not ideal, but is there ever a completely perfect signing?

My main concerns at this time are, firstly as put so well by other members on this forum, it puts things into context when Swansea are bidding £13 million for Bony. While we should also consider Villa and a number of other clubs have made a significant amount of new player signings already.

My fear is we’re not being pro-active enough, which has very much been evident at our club for a number of years now.

RM says he wants to sign 4 players, looking at the squad we have, the players who we have let go this summer, that is the absolute minimum we need to sign in my opinion to compete with no major injuries to key players next season.

Based on the amount of time it’s taken to get this sorted, with the squad and manager off to pre-season training imminent and our history of signing players, I have concerns.

It would be nice for us to get a number of new signings, but I just don’t see it happening.

Jim Knightley
786 Posted 09/07/2013 at 10:53:19
Apologies for the various typos ('Two things well' was intended).

Incidentally...Gomez is currently underpriced imo...If only we had the money of Spurs or Liverpool. Or apparently Swansea.

Laurie Hartley
796 Posted 09/07/2013 at 11:29:42
Sam @ 760,
If he score 15-20 goals in each of the next 3 seasons he will have been the buy of the century and we will be a top four club provided we can keep hold of Coleman, Baines, Fellaini & Mirallas.

Jim Knightley
803 Posted 09/07/2013 at 11:58:26
I think that’s a bit optimistic Laurie. I am getting more concern about the likes of Swansea, than realistic about the prospect of breaching the top four. I think if we were going for the likes of Bony, Beneteke, Wanayama etc we could be thinking about the top teams.
Alan Newton
813 Posted 09/07/2013 at 12:24:18
Some fellow Blues need to get a grip and return to a sense of realism. We still have very little more than a couple of brass farthings to rub together. To get a striker with Premier League experience who can maybe score 13+ goals a season alongside another man who can do the same - especially with the right support alongside him - could be all the difference between Champions League / Europa League or nothing. Both of those competitions signal progress from where we are now and increases in revenue (albeit more marginal for the Europa League).

At that price until he's 32/33 (which still isn't that old these days) scoring 13 minimum per season, that's not bad business. We could go out and spunk a lot more on a striker and not have any more guarantees.

He will also add competition for places and could help raise the game of Big Vic (Eternally hopeful of that happening) and Jelavic. I think the signing will also compliment Jelavic very well and if we stick Baines and Mirallas on the wings with Oviedo at left back, there is plenty of attacking optimism for the season ahead. Ok, thats an if, as we're after another winger but we have options.

I'm being optimistic for once. COYBB!!

James Stewart
862 Posted 09/07/2013 at 15:05:40
If he stays injury free he will get around 15 goals which is a damn sight more than any of the others we have.

As pointed out above Jelavic contributes nothing when he is not scoring and has a horrible touch. Kone is an upgrade on what we have, be happy.

David Booth
871 Posted 09/07/2013 at 15:27:57
Loic Remy: four years younger, a £1m cheaper and a real eye for goal.

Now available from QPR.

I rest my case...

Ray Robinson
918 Posted 09/07/2013 at 16:47:05
Perhaps we should have gone for the young Nigerian striker, Feeders who seems hungry for goals (pun intended)?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23240104

Andrew Ellams
919 Posted 09/07/2013 at 16:52:10
David Booth, and on a rape charge
Paul Kelly
922 Posted 09/07/2013 at 16:45:37
Alan @813
"We still have very little more than a couple of brass farthings to rub together."

I think you need a sense of realism, we only have one brass farthing.

In all seriousness though, think he is better than what we've got and we haven't got millions to splash, so I'll give him the 'benefit of the doubt' and wait and see what he can produce (just as I did with Jelly til he went shit).

Paul Andrews
927 Posted 09/07/2013 at 17:05:29
Andrew,

David knows that.
Sounds like he is his defence counsel

Paul Andrews
071 Posted 09/07/2013 at 22:18:55
Kone 3/1 to score over 13.5 Premier goals.

GET ON QUICK.

Pete Gorman
077 Posted 09/07/2013 at 22:41:10
Hmmmm, I'm not sure he'll score over 12.5.
Kev Quilliam
061 Posted 16/07/2013 at 05:41:31
New to the ToffeeWeb forum but have been reading through some of the recent articles and thought I'd have a crack at it.

The recent signing of Kone, for me, is a good one.

I understand the view of other people regarding his age, but having watched him play last season, and more importantly score, I think bringing in a striker who is in his prime (physically and mentally) is just what the Blues need next season.

Feel free to agree/disagree.....sorry if I'm a couple of weeks late with the topic!

Michael Kenrick
Editorial Team
063 Posted 16/07/2013 at 05:46:31
Hi Kev... and welcome.

Yea, you are just a little bit late.... but if any of our regulars spot this, they might give you a bit of a challenge over your scurrilous opinion on this fella Kone.

[Ya might wanna comment on one of our more recent threads... just saying!]

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