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Reports: Atsu deal agreed

by | 08/08/2014  Comments (90)  jump
Everton's move to acquire winger Christian Atsu on a season-long loan appears to have been successful with the impasse with Chelsea apparently broken today.

The Liverpool Echo are reporting that the 22 year-old will undergo a medical in the coming days before the transfer is ratified ahead of the kick off to the new season at Leicester City in nine days' time.

The Mirror reported earlier in the day that Chelsea had finally acquiesced to the deal on the back of assurances that the player would get sufficient playing time with Everton this season.

That was briefly thrown in doubt by the Echo's Greg O'Keeffe, who is with the squad in Germany ahead of the friendly against SC Paderborn, when he tweeted that no deal had yet been struck. He later followed that up by confirming that an agreement is in place, however.

Atsu's proposed switch from Stamford Bridge appeared to be off amid media speculation that Everton and Chelsea were deadlocked over the terms of the deal but it was revived following further talks.  

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Derek Knox
2 Posted 08/08/2014 at 15:33:18
Like I mentioned on the other post I do hope this is true, but before we get too carried away the story emanated from The Mirror so until it is official, I will keep the Amigo on ice !

Tony Page
3 Posted 08/08/2014 at 15:45:57
Derek, the lad is African, not South American.

Shame on you for your low geographical nous.

Joe O'Brien
4 Posted 08/08/2014 at 15:42:26
Yeah hope this is true and the deal gets done. The mirror source does make me a bit sceptical though.

Maybe Kennedy going on loan to Hibs might be a bit of a hint that weÂ’ve got enough cover on the wings, hopefully with Atsu signing.

Now for the waiting game once more.

Tony J Williams
7 Posted 08/08/2014 at 15:59:59
Hope this goes through but I am still harbouring the hope that Del Boy might want back in after not getting a squad number at Bathelona
Anthony Flack
8 Posted 08/08/2014 at 16:11:26
Sorry this is probably not the right thread to moan about newspapers - I see the Mirror deservedly being bashed again.

Wednesday I sat back at lunchtime with a coffee and The Guardian, and nearly spat my coffee out as at the footer of the front page, was a full width advert of "rat face" curling in a free kick at Goodison last season - bloody BT Vision. Why not run with a picture of Lukaku towering over the red shite to bury a header....

Tony Page
9 Posted 08/08/2014 at 16:14:09
Tony, just checked on Barcelona squad, as you said no number for Gerry, but can’t the squad change before the transfer window closes?
John Pickles
11 Posted 08/08/2014 at 16:22:22
Just come up.......... Â’Sky Sports understands Christian Atsu has agreed to join Everton on season-long loan.Â’
Chester Barnes
12 Posted 08/08/2014 at 16:26:28
Sorry to post this here too, but does anyone know what is happening with the so called Henen deal?
Shane Corcoran
14 Posted 08/08/2014 at 16:30:03
IÂ’d like to hear from Lionel Hutz.
Shane Corcoran
15 Posted 08/08/2014 at 16:30:55
..........I mean Colin Glasser.
Jim Bennings
17 Posted 08/08/2014 at 16:25:34

I think your going to have to forget about Gerry Delly coming back, at least for this summer as Barcelona clearly have him in their plans, whether that changes during the next 12 months who knows, he may eventually end up back at Everton sometime in the future.

Looks like the Atsu deal is going ahead so thatÂ’s as much a relief as anything.
He will give us a different kind of option, much like Deulofeu did last season, offering raw pace and an ability to take on the full-backs.

Apparently Atsu is more of a team player than the little Spaniard was and mixes up his crosses, Deulofeu always seemed to hit them hard and low, which in all fairness he did put in a few beauties such as Lukaku at Newcastle.

Whatever, the point is we are close to another important signing, just need to get another striker now to back up Lukaku whilst Kone continues recuperation.

Brian Williams
19 Posted 08/08/2014 at 16:56:49
I asked Colin Glasser on another thread a few days ago about the Henen deal. This after Colin intimating that his "source" was a highly placed club employee during another conversation on another thread again....didnÂ’t get an answer!
Paul Ellam
21 Posted 08/08/2014 at 17:09:20
Would welcome both Atsu and Henen.
Still feel we need another permanent striker though who can contribute to this season, not just future ones. Traore is an option although he will only be a loan.
I would rather we try for somebody like Remy, Vossen, Soriano or even Nolito - all who wouldnÂ’t be above 㾶m.
I read that we were considering getting Cleverley in for ٦m so we must have some cash swilling about! Would rather it went on a forward as I believe we have enough numbers in midfield.
Steve Cotton
22 Posted 08/08/2014 at 17:11:41
Kenwright probably shitting himself while frantically punching buttons on his A4 size calculator...

Meanwhile, the RS line up two more 㿀 mill targets...

Just saying like...

Sue Brown
23 Posted 08/08/2014 at 17:31:34
Just been on SSN again, terms have been agreed and he will have a medical over the weekend, so we should know something in ...err...48hours??
Sid Logan
26 Posted 08/08/2014 at 17:42:18
Very confusing. SSN are running two separate threads on this. One saying he’s agreed to be loaned Everton and another on their transfer centre video that he will decide today between three clubs – none of which are Everton.
Mike Childs
27 Posted 08/08/2014 at 17:38:09
What is this interest in Cleverly especially at ٦million. IÂ’ve been watching the PL since 2010 and in that time he has looked like a player that ٠million would be a fair deal. Was he once a player with promise? He doesnÂ’t have pace or a shot or forward passing skills? Why is he rated as much as he is? Is it simply because he plays for United?
Sid Logan
31 Posted 08/08/2014 at 17:53:44
IÂ’m going with the news that Atsu will come on loan! The SSN transfer centre video - although posted at a later time than the written blog update - I am pretty sure was probably recorded some time earlier today or maybe even yesterday!
Christopher Kelly
32 Posted 08/08/2014 at 17:54:37
Paul Ellam banging on about Vossen more than I rip Osman!! Thank God, Paul keep it up. Maybe RM will listen as he hasnÂ’t listened to me lol...

Regardless. Chester thx for bringing up Henen as I was wondering the same. Atsu more important as he represents today. All sign point to YES!!! We are dying for an explosive winger! He and Mirallas will have defenses crapping themselves!

Ian McDowell
34 Posted 08/08/2014 at 17:52:53
Hope we get him. Looks a player.
Neil Roberts
38 Posted 08/08/2014 at 18:33:51
I agree he will be a good signing BUT on our terms not on Chelsea's where we guarantee playing time if he plays well he gets his chance. If he plays shit he is out; there should be no guarantee.
Colin Glassar
39 Posted 08/08/2014 at 18:35:38
Shane/Brian, ahem, I did say on another Atsu link on TW that this deal would be sorted by Friday (today). I will try and find it. Henen is training with the lads at FF but I don't know what the delay is regarding his signature.

Traore is on ice until the Falcao situation is sorted. This could go down to the last day.

Phil Walling
40 Posted 08/08/2014 at 18:46:49
Who's a clever boy. then?
Mark Griffiths
41 Posted 08/08/2014 at 18:54:44
O'keefe saying we are in for another striker. That must be Traore but would prefer Nolito (dpelling?). Made up if Atsu deal goes through as we need pace and extra quality.
Helen Mallon
42 Posted 08/08/2014 at 19:06:59
Can someone please enlighten me as to why we have only spent 9 .5 million pounds on two players. I know Lukaku's fee was 28m but that's over 5 yrs so 5.5 for his 1st payment and 4 for Besic , why are we not spending more bloody money.
Patrick Murphy
43 Posted 08/08/2014 at 19:17:31
Helen - if you are correct with the details don’t you realise that takes our net spend per season over the last few years to around ٠m per year. What more do you want Uncle Bill to do completely empty his Piggy-bank?

Paul Andrews
44 Posted 08/08/2014 at 19:20:22
ThatÂ’s 4 and counting
Harold Matthews
45 Posted 08/08/2014 at 19:16:30
Helen. I’m probably more confused than you. This money business is over my head and I just let them do what they do and give thanks whenever anyone arrives.
Patrick Murphy
46 Posted 08/08/2014 at 19:23:55
Agreed Harold! A lot of these deals are done with FFP in mind and clubs whilst they are adhering to the rules will have plenty of experts and accountants working overtime on ways of circumnavigating the various rules and regulations.
Kevin Rowlands
47 Posted 08/08/2014 at 19:32:56
Helen, personally I’m very happy with how this window is going, we’ve basically signed 2 players who in effect we gave a years ’trial’ to so they will obviously bed in easily, picked up a potential star in Besic, now found a replacement for Del boy, signed up two very promising young players in Galloway and Henen, then to top it off signed up two potential young superstars in Barkley and Stones in the last week.

I’d much prefer the patient way RM is going about his business than for example Rodgers who seems to be spending money like a drunken sailor, another decent striker and I think were in great shape.

Ian McDowell
48 Posted 08/08/2014 at 19:56:27
This seems like a very good move. Well done Roberto!
Mike Allison
49 Posted 08/08/2014 at 20:06:25
We don't spend money for the sake of it. That's why we "over-achieve". We have a settled, stable squad and we are making the few additions to it that we need. We're short of only Traore and Atsu (I still think we could do with a right-sided Oviedo but it seems Stones will cover Coleman and I see that it makes sense) and with the promotion of some promising young players we have a big enough squad. We've got 2 players for every position pretty much already and whoever we add, even on loan, will put us in a really strong position, especially if we avoid season-long injuries like we suffered last season.
Christopher Wallace
50 Posted 08/08/2014 at 20:00:22
Haven't read through the other comments yet to gauge reaction, but I think this a very important part of the jigsaw for the forthcoming season.

This will bring an added dimension to the first team, and I believe it will looked upon in the same light as our excellent use of the loan system last season.

Another plus is that it looks like getting wrapped up early. This gives us plenty of scope to further strengthen the squad.

Just think of any other transfer window. We're usually still frustrated at lack if incoming players at this stage, on top of the dread and anticipation that one of our stars is soon to be sold. That doesn't look like happening.

Baines, Barkley and Stones new contracts. Coleman never a worry unless ridiculous money comes in. Lukaku/Barry signed up. Jagielka/Distin look like finishing they're career here. Oviedo coming back to pick up where he left off. Naisy improving on his resurgence. Gibson exceeded expectations. Kone unknown, but the only way is up. Hopefully more of the same from Mirallas. Ossie and Pienaar with points to prove, but undoubtedly talented and great personalities to have about the first team. Besic, the cultured, technical animal that anyone/everyone in football would love to have in their team, or play alongside.

Good time to be a blue !!!

Christopher Wallace
51 Posted 08/08/2014 at 20:15:59
Mike 28

Cleverley played his best football at Wigan. I would have happily payed ٦m for him after that season. Whether he is actually a dud, or has been mis-managed since is another question.

With the options we have in midfield, it is unlikely.

Also, the Everton - Man Utd link, coupled with the Martinez - Wigan link, screams of lazy journalism. We could buy a quality striker for ٦m.

Sean Kelly
52 Posted 08/08/2014 at 20:18:46
This looks like a good deal hopefully with a clause in now to buy him on the cheap next year. I would like to see a goalkeeper coming in, someone like David Marshall would be ideal.

I’m not sure about Traore. If we have the money for Cleverley, reportedly ٦m, I would rather it went on a striker as back up to Lukaku.

Drew Shortis
53 Posted 08/08/2014 at 20:28:02
Great news. Hope it comes to pass. Ben Arfa on loan with an agreed fee would be great too, or am I just being greedy?

I have no doubt there will also be a striker, most likely on loan, before the end of the window. See, no need to panic!

Aidy Dews
54 Posted 08/08/2014 at 20:35:40
I hope we get this Atsu deal over the line; I think he could be a player for us: pacey, direct, got a trick or two in his locker. I really think he could be more influential for us than Deulofeu was!

I really wouldn’t mind seeing Traoré back; when fully fit, I think he can definitely be an asset for us.

I donÂ’t know who else out there that would be available on loan who is decent and willing to be second fiddle to Rom and be happy with a few starts here and there in all competitions?!

Sid Logan
55 Posted 08/08/2014 at 20:47:19
According to the Echo we've signed Atsu on a season long loan.
Sid Logan
56 Posted 08/08/2014 at 20:53:27
Lyndon, apologies if I'm repeating something that's already known. The thread seems to have been updated with the headline rather than with the posts.

Anyway it's great news because, regardless of whether we sign anyone else before the season kicks off this was definitely a signing we needed! I consider myself happy with the dealings done in this window. Anything else will be a bonus!

Joe O'Brien
57 Posted 08/08/2014 at 20:48:06
Correction Christopher.. It's a GREAT time to be a blue.

It's been a long long time(too long)since we've got such a talented group of players with a great manager in charge.

I don't fear any team this season but I know they'll all fear us.

Andrew Ellams
58 Posted 08/08/2014 at 21:00:27
If this comes off before the Leicester game, this must surely go down as the best Everton pre-season for transfers in a long time. And I think we can expect two more including Henen before the window closes.
Sid Logan
59 Posted 08/08/2014 at 21:05:25

I have to hand it to you you really do seem to have a reliable source. You have also remained steadfast when others doubt and for that you deserve credit. I'll await your future predictions with interest!

Helen Mallon
60 Posted 08/08/2014 at 20:54:40
Kevin Rowlands, I am led to believe Galloway and Henen are destined for the under 21s. Also, watching all the pre season games as I have, only Garbut, has shown anything like first team football. We are trying to break into the top four. We have only signed 1 extra 1st team player from last season and that's Besic, Atsu will take Del Boys place and who really cares if Barkley and Stones have signed a new contract ( I do but I'm trying to get a point across think they are both sexy) They were contracted to Everton for more than two years prier to their extensions, so a new contract ain't going to make them play better. We need a couple of tried and tested prem euro players for the first team.
Andrew Ellams
61 Posted 08/08/2014 at 21:18:25
Helen, new contracts may not make them play better but they are both young players who are year further on in their development so should be improving all the time; same goes for Lukaku.

We may have almost the same squad as last year in numbers but improved in quality.

Sid Logan
62 Posted 08/08/2014 at 21:20:39
You’ve just consolidated your position in the half empty brigade!
Jamie Crowley
63 Posted 08/08/2014 at 21:30:00
Helen -

I’d recount everything, but it’d be better if you just read "Try Decaf" recently submitted.

Ian McDowell
64 Posted 08/08/2014 at 21:31:32
Very well articulated Helen. Got to say you have some good points. I think we are woefully inadequate in the forwards department. We are about to enter 4 competitions with Lukaku, Naismith and Kone.
Sid Logan
65 Posted 08/08/2014 at 21:36:20
Ian, and Atsu!
Denis Richardson
66 Posted 08/08/2014 at 21:34:09
Atsu coming in would be fantastic - that's basically the replacement for Delboy sorted (although I personally think this lad is better as he has an end product to his game).

Hope this is confirmed then we just need a back up for Rom and we're good to go for the season (with a couple of injuries to come back in Sept).

Hope the beta blockers can be put away by some on this site for now...

Kevin Rowlands
67 Posted 08/08/2014 at 22:14:17
Wow Helen, if you feel this way now you must have been apoplectic during the transfer window last summer when we really didn’t bring anyone in till the last minute. This team with all the same players except Del boy had a record season last year, now he’s been replaced by Atsu, who actually looks a better player, add Besic and a fully fit Gibson who never played last year of course we are stronger, we’ll be fine.
Christopher Wallace
68 Posted 08/08/2014 at 22:24:19
Seriously guys, I understand the apprehension about our lack of strikers but it's 8th august and we've already got the best squad in my lifetime.

Atsu with a buy clause (happy anyway without), striker and 1 more and I'll be over the moon. We did more than that in last few hrs last season... we've 25 days to go!

Trevor Thompson
69 Posted 08/08/2014 at 22:31:25
Would love a striker and a playmaker on loan. Even if they were of the mature type: The striker as cover and the playmaker as someone Ross could learn from.
Christopher Wallace
70 Posted 08/08/2014 at 22:31:47
Also, I know where people are coming from when saying that Barry and Lukaku were with us last year.

However, both players were outstanding last year and there were serious doubts that we would get either player, let alone both.

Cheer up

Christopher Wallace
71 Posted 08/08/2014 at 22:31:47
Also, I know where people are coming from when saying that Barry and Lukaku were with us last year.

However, both players were outstanding last year and there were serious doubts that we would get either player, let alone both.

Cheer up

Mark Tanton
72 Posted 08/08/2014 at 22:33:57
I canÂ’t remember a more optimistic transfer window (not much competition I agree)
Andrew Ellams
73 Posted 08/08/2014 at 22:42:56
We have a net spend of less than 㿀million over 14 months and are miles ahead of where we were before. Under modern day financials that is pretty good
Keith Glazzard
74 Posted 08/08/2014 at 22:47:35
It does look a bit like a plan is coming into shape. Whether it works or not we will have to wait and see.
Paul Dark
75 Posted 08/08/2014 at 23:56:21
Colin - thanks, as ever. Hope Henen and Atsu go through.

Does your contact know if Osman will be first choice this year? That one gives me more nightmares than anything at present. The thought of him being even on the bench gives me palpitations .. please speak to your friend, Col.

Harold Matthews
76 Posted 08/08/2014 at 23:50:33
People talking about getting a quality striker for ٦m. Jeeps. It wouldn't even buy a quality striker's big toe.
Christopher Kelly
77 Posted 09/08/2014 at 00:43:13
Like it or not, Helen has a point.

WeÂ’ve been banging on for years about Red Bill spending some frikkinÂ’ money. A lot of us on here are now mistaking scraps for Scampi... ItÂ’s not too much to ask for a little ambition is it?? We have made TONS off of different playerÂ’s sales going back to Arteta and maybe beyond. OFM and our current rock star wheel and deal with the best of Â’em...well deal at least... we havenÂ’t been wheeling a whole lot.

Christopher Kelly
78 Posted 09/08/2014 at 00:54:26
Oh, and this gem just came in....

I guess the season is over, we can all go home. Phil Neville says that Man U will win the league this year: What a total buffoon.

Christopher Wallace
79 Posted 09/08/2014 at 00:25:23
Carlos Bacca ٤m to Sevilla

Michu ٠m to Swansea

Benteke ٤m to Villa

Diego Costa ٟ.5m to Atletico

Lewandowski ٢ to Dortmund

Aduriz to Bilbao ٠m

Giusseppe Rossi to Fiorentina ٦m

Burak Yilmaz ٢m to Galatasaray

Jackson ٥m to Porto

It's not easy Harold, but it's certainly not unheard of...

Dennis Ng
80 Posted 09/08/2014 at 01:03:01
Chris W, to be fair, those guys are good but not battle tested elite strikers until they moved. I do think your list shows we should not be hung up on whether we paid $28m for Rom or get an up-and-coming striker for free. It's the games that determine whether we got ourselves a deal and whether we can handle without another known good striker.
Christopher Wallace
81 Posted 09/08/2014 at 01:35:05
I know Dennis. My original point was that instead of spending ٦m on Cleverley, we get buy a quality striker. Harold mentioned that we this wouldn't but the big toe of a quality striker.

Obviously we're not going to buy an elite, proven striker for that money. What we need is another hungry, young striker, with the right attributes and potential, to come in and contribute to the first team and provide some healthy competition to our Belgian Beast of a similar ilk.

Christopher Wallace
82 Posted 09/08/2014 at 02:02:03
Apologies for spelling errors there... smartphones can make one look rather dumb sometimes, even more so after a few tins!
Dennis Ng
83 Posted 09/08/2014 at 02:36:06
Agreed Chris, but many (us or not) are used to seeing a team of our standing pay big dough for strikers. And we did this season with Rom. I agree we should be able to sign a few more, cheap or free, to complement that statement with hunger.
David Ellis
84 Posted 09/08/2014 at 02:45:17
This time last year we had Kone as our main striker, with back up from Jelavic, Naismith and Anichebe. The season before we had Jelavic, Naismith, Anichebe. The season before that we didn't even have Jelavic or Naismith. I think you can see the progress.
Peter Barry
85 Posted 09/08/2014 at 04:20:10
A good striker and crafty winger and attacking fullbacks with a stalwart defense and creative midfield is the recipe for success in my humble opinion and from what I can see Roberto is just about there with Everton. I am really looking forward to the new season I hope we don't end up with the USUAL Evertonian disappointment.
Harold Matthews
86 Posted 09/08/2014 at 04:49:22
Nice one Christopher but this year the fees have zoomed. Borini £14m, the guy from Leeds £14m. We didn't know Michu, Lewandowski, Benteke and Costa were quality strikers till they started doing the business for their new clubs. Useful maybe, but not known quality strikers. Let's face it. We've just spent £28m on a novice quality striker.

Of course, £8m might get you someone who goes on to win Le Ballon D'Or. A young prospect who improves out of sight or someone from an unlikely source who has slipped completely under the radar. The latter would be perfect. We need someone who can do the job right now in the event of Lukaku getting injured or is having a poor game.

Sean Kelly
87 Posted 09/08/2014 at 09:55:13
IÂ’m with you on that one Harold. People screaming for a quality striker to perform now are dreaming if they can get him for ٦M. Maybe there is a hidden gem somewhere but we will have competition.

Also most of the guys Christopher was talking about went to foreign league not the Premier League.

Bob Parrington
88 Posted 09/08/2014 at 11:10:18
Some on this site seem to focus on the RS and their own transfers and target transfers. Who gives an RS? It is what it is. Money helps but there's more to it than that. How do you replace a Suarez (RS) or a Lukaku (true blue). Personally, I'd much prefer having the big L back than losing a Suarez, around which RS built their entire last season.

Hey, true Blue!!!!

Sid Logan
89 Posted 09/08/2014 at 13:00:39
I would imagine most of us are now feeling quite pleased with dealings in this transfer window which I'm pretty sure, as far as we're concerned, is not over yet!

Although pre-season performances and results have not been what I would have liked to have seen I don't believe they are indications of how we will start the season. Having thought about it I'm also supportive of Roberto's decision to hold back Mirallas and Lukaku until the Leicester game because of their longer involvement in the World Cup even though I'd love to see them.

So why is it that when a half empty supporter like me feels things are looking good are we still seeing some almost vitriolic and negative comments from a handful of diehard pessimist? I have often wondered whether they are actually undercover RS activists who come on here to try to stir the crap for the rest of us!

James Martin
90 Posted 09/08/2014 at 14:30:48
Helen your argument about money makes little sense. Whether Everton pay 28 mill now or over 5 years its still leaving the coffers one war or another just like the money we get in will be coming in installments. We probably havent even paid the full fee for Besic.

With that logic Liverpool will probably have spent something like 20 million to our 6 (lets assume). Whatever way you look at it we are being outspent by the bigger tes as usual but we have not only invested 9 million this summer.

Agent fees, increased wages on contracts, fees and wages for Byrne, Barry, Galloway, possibly Henen and Atsu all cost money, theyre not just free because they don’t have a numbered transfer fee. Likewise Lukaku, Deulofeu and Barry probably cost somewhere around 7-8 mill for their loan deals last year. Lukakus was rumoured to be 5 just for the loan fee so that 33 mill plus wages that we will pay to have Lukaku over the next few years. Hardly a meagre investment.

I get your point Heken, i’d love to see more players come in for big money but we’re not City or Chelsea and havent got a Suarez windfall or massive revenue streams. We’ll have FFP restraints as well as our own budgetary limits. With these in mind I think its been a very positive window (not yet finished) and I am in full support of Everton’s long term policy of investing in youth and giving them passage to the first team rather than the gamblers approach of spraying money around hoping you crack the top 4. Our model is more sustainable, it has delivered a great group if young players whose values are alreasy huge. If they increease their potential and we prudently add to them then champions league qualifying will remain a possibility for as long as we keep them all together. When we do break in we will have a group used to playing together for Everton and are loyal rather than mercenary players who view us as a stepping stonewho will be enticed as soon as another club come calling or will decline in value as they age.

Richard Reeves
91 Posted 09/08/2014 at 14:02:56
If Atsu joins us it will be another good addition for the season. That just leaves Henen and Traore. IÂ’m hoping that by Martinez keeping Traore around the place when injured is an indication that he seeÂ’s a future for him in the form of another loan, we never got to see what he could do and at a similar age to Lukaku and almost identical goal scoring record whoÂ’s to say he couldnÂ’t be as good if not, better.

I think if fit Kone might surprise quite a few people and hopefully Lukaku can feel settled and improve on last years tally,Naismith is capable of scoring particularly around the box and always seems focussed and Traore (if we get him) could be challenging Lukaku in the scoring stats so a position that a lot of people think we are weak in could be very strong once everyone is fit and hopefully with the addition of Traore.

Paul Smith
92 Posted 10/08/2014 at 11:32:22
I haven't seen much of Atsu but glad if he comes as I'm not convinced about McGeady and Pienaar doesn't get enough goals. As a back-up striker I would like us to take a chance on Troy Deeney of Watford as even if Kone ever gets fit at his age his powers will be on the wane after a bad injury.

I really think goals are going to be an issue for us this season and we cannot really expect our full backs to contribute so many again. We need the three who play behind Lukaku (whoever they may be) to contribute about 25 league goals between them as were not going to get many from McCarthy and Barry. If Lukaku can get near 20, we might have a chance of top 4.

Pete Owen
93 Posted 10/08/2014 at 12:48:36
Top 4? are you having a laugh?
With this damn stupid Europa league's demands plus the two domestic cups, I will be happy with a top ten place.
Just look what involvement in the EL does to premier league teams.
Unless we go out of the EL at the first hurdle (after the league stage), and I fully expect us to, then we will suffer, a saturday win will be a thing of the past.....mark my words.
top 4 indeed...
Colin Glassar
94 Posted 10/08/2014 at 12:56:18
I hope you're still around in April, Pete. We'll talk then.
Kev Johnson
95 Posted 10/08/2014 at 12:59:02
Richard - we obviously want Traore, but it's all down to whether or not Monaco sell Falcao. If they do (and a few clubs are sniffing around him) then Traore will stay with them; if they don't, he'll most likely come to us. This will be a late-on-deadline-day job.
Christopher Wallace
96 Posted 10/08/2014 at 13:06:54

Europa League is just 5 extra games over 4 months before Xmas.... it's hardly the most demanding schedule to work around for pro footballers.

Also, our games following EL will be on a Sunday so, I suppose you're correct, we will not win any Saturday games in an EL week.

Christopher Wallace
97 Posted 10/08/2014 at 13:14:02
Also, Everton have been a momentum team in recent seasons. A few wins in Europa League could set us off on one of our unbeaten sequences and help us stack up some points in the league.
Matthew Roberts
98 Posted 10/08/2014 at 13:40:58
The Europa League is something we should be celebrating; IÂ’m not sure why some see it as a sign of a bad season. If thereÂ’s a worry about some first team fitness then itÂ’s a great opportunity for the younger lads to get some experience.
Christopher Wallace
99 Posted 10/08/2014 at 17:59:54
Absolutely Matthew, especially is we can win our first 3 games and then have scope to experiment and blood some youngsters. Looking forward to some epic european nights this season.
Pete Owen
100 Posted 10/08/2014 at 20:28:27
I do hope I’m so laughably wrong, I sincerely do.
Recent seasons have seen teams like Stoke, Newcastle, Spurs etc all suffer horribly...ok that’s expected of a regular Spurs season so you can have that..
but unless there is a dramatic increase in european experienced playing staff then I just can’t see much success, again I hope I’m wrong.
5 extra games over 4 months doesn’t sound so bad, but look at the fixture list, sandwhiched inbetween league cup and premier games makes 3 games in a short space, tell me Jags, Peanuts, Distin and all the older legs can cope with that...please?
Patrick Murphy
101 Posted 10/08/2014 at 20:36:10
I have just read Roberto's latest interview in the Echo and whilst he didn't explicitly say that Europa League was a priority I got the impression that is what he is aiming for - some will agree with that competition being a priority, however, with so many class teams likely to be in the mix at the business end of the season it will take a monumental effort from Everton to overcome those kinds of teams in two-legged ties. We should treat the competition with respect but we have to look to the bread and butter of the Premier League to judge the progress of the team. Perhaps previous English qualifiers for the European League have also made it a priority and that has led to poor performances in the Premier League.
Peter Bell
102 Posted 10/08/2014 at 20:56:22
Patrick, I think if we can get through the group stages by utilising the fringe players we may do well in the EL.
Group stages finish early December and the Knock out stages don't resurface until Mid February.
I think it was yourself who pointed out some weeks ago that once February is out of the way, the last 11 prem games from March onwards do not contain any of the top four, you just never know.
Peter Bell
103 Posted 10/08/2014 at 21:13:55
Anyone know if we enter League cup in round 3 or 4
Colin Gee
104 Posted 10/08/2014 at 21:21:59
We enter the League Cup in the 3rd Round.
Raymond Fox
105 Posted 10/08/2014 at 21:25:23
Atsu looks to be a tidy player from what I've seen, he's obviously no mug or he wouldn't be on Chelsea's books, you never know he might do a Lukaku.

Success in the cup comps. depends a lot on luck in the draw bag till the semi's, so which of our 4 targets will Roberto make the priorities? Its not that clear cut.

For me the Prem. picks itself, then the Europa, the FA Cup and lastly the League Cup but you could argue otherwise, because we do need to win a trophy.

David Chait
106 Posted 10/08/2014 at 22:00:42
I just don't know why, but I'm just not bothered....
Patrick Murphy
107 Posted 10/08/2014 at 22:06:29
Peter - it wasn't me who highlighted the run-in as I hadn't realised that we had no top 4 sides to play in the last part of the season - I rarely look further than the next few games but we do have a tougher than normal start to the campaign. I would love Roberto and his men to win the EL and I would accept a mid-table position in exchange for it but unlike the Premier League one bad decision such as the one we received in the Villareal match and you are out and there is no coming back.

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