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Everton assigned pot 3 for Europa League draw

by | 28/08/2014  Comments (94)  jump
Everton will be in the third tier of seeded teams for tomorrow's Europa League group stage draw.

The Blues needed a number of upsets of clubs ranked with higher Uefa team co-efficients in order to move into Pot 2 but fell one result short leaving Everton as the highest ranked team in Pot 3.

The draw will take place in Monaco at 12pm UK time and there are a number of potential reunions — not to mention opportunities to settle some old scores — on the cards depending on how the balls are drawn, with Villarreal and Fiorentina in Pot 1 and Metalist Kharkiv in Pot 2 alongside Celtic.

Pot 2 also contains some tough opposition that the Blues would likely wish to avoid at this early stage, including Wolfsburg and Standard Liege, while Pot 4 has some potentially tricky away trips like Dinamo Moscow and Dinamo Minsk.  

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Nick Entwistle
1 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:18:38
I have nothing against Villarreal, only against that bald bent coot and whoever at Uefa rigged the draw.
Carl Taylor
2 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:16:22
WeÂ’ll end up with Villarreal, Wolfsburg and Inter, because itÂ’s Everton and Uefa still hate us for wanting to stop the Kopites qualifying after they stole the Champions League. Special rules allowing two Pot 1 teams in one group if the Pot 3 Team dared to challenge the rules Uefa had written but wanted to change because it impacted a Sky Club!
Dean Adams
3 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:26:02
Nick, the establishment seem to dislke EFC, but things might be changing thanks to RM.
Nicky Styles
4 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:30:39
I want Villarreal!
Phil Guyers
5 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:26:30
If that centre-half hadn't saved two penalties in the shootout for the Bulgarians, we'd have been in pot 2! Unlucky or what?

Having said that, our neighbours proved today that you can get an easier group from pot 3 than some teams, e.g. Man City, get from pot 2. I somehow think that we won't get the same good fortune.

Alex Trevalyn
6 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:31:49
Fingers crossed Dean but somehow....
John Raftery
7 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:48:59
Live TV coverage of the draw is on Eurosport 2.
Mark Pierpoint
8 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:50:56
Unlucky, but looking at the teams in pot one and two one thing springs to mind. We probably are the pot three team that everyone wants to avoid

Pot 2 clubs:
Borussia Mön.

Pot 1
Dynamo Kiev
Metalist Kharkiv

Darren Fellows
9 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:44:17
I agree NICK 1 that ref defo was bent I could not believe the decisions he made , I do admire Villarreal the way they play possession football just like we do now and remind me of Everton as a club in many ways, think we should have a good run in Europe as we have players that can snatch a goal from nothing excited can't wait.
Paul Kelly
10 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:59:21
CanÂ’t wait for this draw. Hope we get Celtic. SpankÂ’em home and away our anyone else for that matter. Bring it on. Hopefully our players will be fit by the first game.
Darren Fellows
11 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:59:47
Anyone know of any other possible signings? Think we may need one or two. Welbeck would be a good one, plays either wing or up front or is that our lot?
Steven Higgott
12 Posted 28/08/2014 at 22:56:08
If the Premier League is the best in Europe, then why worry who we draw because we donÂ’t fear anyone in our league. COYB
Iakovos Iasonidis
13 Posted 29/08/2014 at 00:12:36
Everton - PAOK, I hope I get lucky...
Ant Dwyer
14 Posted 29/08/2014 at 01:55:48
Hahha... good luck, Iakovos matey.

Looks some handy teams in the Europa League this season. It seems strange how Uefa do these pot things, we finish above Spurs so do not have to go through qualifying rounds but still end up two pots below them. The EPL Champions then go into Pot 2 in the Champs League and 4th-place Arsenal in Pot 1, along with 3rd-place Chelsea.

Oh by the way how typical of the Redshite they end up with a piss easy draw!

Jamie Crowley
15 Posted 29/08/2014 at 02:58:52
Do the third place teams in the Champions League drop into the knockout rounds still?

That's the single stupidest thing I've ever seen. It completely devalues the Europa League in my opinion. Get knocked out? Here, go down here in the later stages of this bastardized competition.

I love the Europa League and can't wait for it. I just wish they'd ditch the "relegation reward" for the 3rd place Champions League teams. If they're still doing that they need to have a hard look at it.


Steve Austin
16 Posted 29/08/2014 at 03:29:58
Have to agree with Steven (#12). The only team I fear is us lately.
Mark Andersson
17 Posted 29/08/2014 at 05:59:55
So is there any real truth in these conspiracy theories or just paranoia. If this new Everton team is good enough how far can they go. Already the views are split, we can do it, to we are going to be screwed over. I need more info as I was living in Australia last time we where in Europe and had no access to any news on Everton.
Ross Hutchinson
18 Posted 29/08/2014 at 07:35:45
The way the pots and rankings are worked out is UEFA take the last 5 years of European football experience for that club. Because we don't have any, UEFA use how EPL teams have faired in the competition for the last 5 years instead. But that's why Spurs are ahead in the rankings system.
Tommy Coleman
19 Posted 29/08/2014 at 07:48:24
I want The Cheats, Villarreal and Celtic.

Either way, a few good games in there.

Derek Knox
20 Posted 29/08/2014 at 07:55:56

Excuse my ignorance mate, but who are the Cheats, please enlighten ? Thanks.

Scott Hamilton
21 Posted 29/08/2014 at 08:38:56
As long as the away legs are somewhere warm and sunny that serves decent beer then I don't mind :)
Dick Brady
22 Posted 29/08/2014 at 08:41:06
Spurs are Pot 1 while Everton are bloody Pot 3??

What have Spurs done in Europe to get into Pot 1? They had a brief run in the Champions League under Harry but I still don't see why they are Pot 1 and we can only scrape into Pot 3?

We'll draw Villareal. I think we all know it.

Derek Knox
23 Posted 29/08/2014 at 08:41:33

I am sure they will take your preferences into consideration, as being paramount. :-)

Mark Griffiths
24 Posted 29/08/2014 at 08:42:36
Does anyone know if we are going to be on tv for the masses? Last time we were
Channel 5.
Jake Lucas
25 Posted 29/08/2014 at 08:49:46

The pots are decided on the club's European co-efficient. Which is determined by Euro/Champions performance over the last 5 years, if you don't compete in Europe you still get points depending on your league standing, and the quality of the league, but obviously this is less than if you had competed.

Since the last time we were in Europe was 09/10 I think we're lucky to be in pot 3.

Andy Meighan
26 Posted 29/08/2014 at 09:00:45
Phil 5 of course of course we won’t get the same fortune as THEM! We’re Everton, aren’t we?We’ll get the same kind of draw as Man City or something similar Here’s an idea for them – why not just put the shite straight into the final and see how they fare in a penalty shootout just a thought like
Nick Entwistle
27 Posted 29/08/2014 at 09:04:33
Mark, this time round I think its ITV with the Europa rights. With any luck we may get some ITV4 airtime, but Spurs will probably get the nod. Luckily Arsenal went through or we may not have even got on the highlights.
Christopher Wallace
28 Posted 29/08/2014 at 09:11:18

I assume he is referring to Legia but I may be wrong??

They made a silly mistake and paid a very heavy price for it... wouldn't call them 'the cheats' though.

Peter Bell
29 Posted 29/08/2014 at 09:20:24
The third placed CL teams no longer drop into EL from this season
Peter Bell
30 Posted 29/08/2014 at 09:20:24
The third placed CL teams no longer drop into EL from this season
Dan Nulty
31 Posted 29/08/2014 at 09:28:48
VIllareal and Celtic for me. I have a funny feeling we will end up against agent Benitez though.
Dick Brady
32 Posted 29/08/2014 at 09:31:51
So we finished above Tottenham in the Premier League and yet the are Pot 1 and we are Pot 3?

Both Tottenham and Hull were forced to qualify for this competition (Hull failed) while Everton were given automatic entry. Tottenham go straight into Pot 1 even though they had to qualify while Everton, with their automatic entry go into Pot 3?

Seems wrong to me.

Mark Griffiths
33 Posted 29/08/2014 at 09:42:54
Thanks Nick. Yeah Spurs are really annoying me even more recently for many reasons.
Derek Knox
34 Posted 29/08/2014 at 09:40:45

Thanks mate, I just couldn't figure who he alluding to.


Just read Lyndon's link at the beginning of this thread Europa League which is even highlighted blue (as most links are) and it explains exactly how they the seeding criteria works and is applied.

Dave Southword
35 Posted 29/08/2014 at 09:54:55
Peter, I don't know the rules, but looking at the maths they are 8 teams short for the first knockout round without the CL rejects. 48 teams is 12 groups of 4 and top 2 means 24 clubs in the knockout round.
Tony Waring
36 Posted 29/08/2014 at 10:04:54
Still in the dark as to the draw format. Does EUFA draw 3 sets of 4 teams from the one group or 1 team from each Pot to make 12 mini groups ? If the former applies Pot 3 doesn't look too forbidding. Then again anything which favours Everton will almost certainly be over-ruled by EUFA !!
Mike Childs
37 Posted 29/08/2014 at 10:11:17
Not sure who to include in it because my overall European knowledge/history is weak. I may not be able to pick out the teams from the different pots but I'm certain that we will end up in the group that will be referred to as the group of death.
James Morgan
38 Posted 29/08/2014 at 10:14:53
Just think the the other teams will be writing on their respective websites "...pot 3 has a potentially very tough opponent in Everton, having smashed their transfer record on 28m pound signing Romelu Lukaku, not to mention the addition of three times Champions League winner Samuel Eto'o, following their fifth placed finish last season."
That's how I like to look at it!
Phil Guyers
39 Posted 29/08/2014 at 10:17:01

What makes you think that? The last 32 is made up of the 24 qualifiers from the group stage and 8 Champions League 3rd place dropouts as it has been since the Europa League format was adopted.

Mike Allison
40 Posted 29/08/2014 at 10:22:26
Tony there will be twelve groups of four, with one team from each pot in each group.

Hence we will play against one of the teams in pot 1 (but not Tottenham) one of the teams in pot 3 and one of the teams in pot 4.

So we could for example have Inter Milan (pot 1), Celtic (pot 2) and Dynamo Moscow (pot 4) as our group. Or we could have Salzburg, Dnipro and Qarabag.

Derek Knox
41 Posted 29/08/2014 at 10:20:51

They are all potentially the 'group of death', no matter who we get drawn against, if complacency sets in and we field an inexperienced side.

Remember, that all the participants have finished as runners up in their respective leagues, just falling short of CL qualification. So basically there are no mugs, but having said that, some countries' standards are not as high as Prem, La Liga, Serie A etc. hence the complacency comment.

Also a lot of these lesser known teams are relatively unknown quantities, and are easily capable ' on the night ' of turning anyone over.

Anto Meehan
42 Posted 29/08/2014 at 10:40:05
Hoping to get to an away game again, the last one was Nuremburg. Of possible teams to be drawn against that would be a good away day I'd take any of the below:








Harold Matthews
43 Posted 29/08/2014 at 10:42:22
No-one will want to meet us.
Mark Andersson
44 Posted 29/08/2014 at 10:39:55
Seems to me that now that the balls are about to go into the bag, most fans are being more realistic about the chances of silverware. As one other post said there will be another of teams wanting to avoid Everton
Sam Hoare
45 Posted 29/08/2014 at 11:37:27
Dream draw (in terms of easiest teams)

Copenhagen or Salzburg
Brugge or Sparta Prague
Astra Giurgi (?)

James Marshall
46 Posted 29/08/2014 at 11:43:42
The way I see it, nobody will want to play us....
Robert Workman
47 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:16:50
Sam Salzburg are definitely NOT an easy draw. They were extremely unfortunate to be eliminated from Champions League qualifier and have some very good players. They usually score goals for fun. On the other hand the team from Helsinki who eliminated Rapid Vienna last night are no better than a pub team!
Nick Entwistle
48 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:23:00
can't find live coverage anywhere... talksport are talkingshite. Best I got is here...

Mike Keating
49 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:21:15
Where can we get updates on this bloody draw apart from EurobloodySport2?
Mike Keating
50 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:25:15
Talkshite have an Evertonian on now and they are discussing Sherbert bloody Lemons!
Kuli Maingi
51 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:26:50
Live Draw:

Nick Entwistle
52 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:27:15
split your tongue in half Mike!
Nick Entwistle
53 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:28:40
So far...

Group A - Villarreal, Borussia Monchengladbach

Group B - Copenhagen, Brugge

Group C - Tottenham, Besiktas

Group D - Salzburg, Celtic

Group E - PSV Eindhoven

Group F - Inter Milan

Group G - Sevilla, Standard Liege

Group H - Lille

Group I - Napoli

Group J - Dynamo Kiev

Group K - Fiorentina

Group L - Metalist

Nick Entwistle
54 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:28:58
Group A - Villarreal, Borussia Monchengladbach

Group B - Copenhagen, Brugge

Group C - Tottenham, Besiktas

Group D - Salzburg, Celtic

Group E - PSV Eindhoven, Panathinaikos

Group F - Inter Milan, Dnipro

Group G - Sevilla, Standard Liege

Group H - Lille, Wolfsburg

Group I - Napoli, Sparta Praha

Group J - Dynamo Kiev, Steaua

Group K - Fiorentina, PAOK,

Group L - Metalist, Trabzonspor

Gerry Quinn
55 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:30:45
Tony J Williams
56 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:31:15
Wolfsberg and LOSC so far
Mark Tanton
57 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:32:19
Did we have Wolfsberg last time around?
Nigel Gregson
58 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:32:35
Could be worse - although Group L would have been more fun
Gerry Quinn
59 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:32:23
Please, not Group A
Anthony Flack
60 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:33:22
no Mark wrong Berg - Nuremburg....
Robert Workman
61 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:28:34
Lille, Wolfsburg and.....
Matthew Roberts
64 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:35:53
We have never played either of those teams, decent draw but two good teams there. Nice set out geographically.
Gerry Quinn
65 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:36:31
Lille, Wolfsburg and..... ....... ....... Everton :)
Nick Entwistle
66 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:36:30
Group A - Villarreal, Borussia Monchengladbach, Zurich

Group B - Copenhagen, Brugge, Torino

Group C - Tottenham, Besiktas, Partizan Belgrade

Group D - Salzburg, Celtic, Dinamo Zagreb

Group E - PSV Eindhoven, Panathinaikos, Estoril

Group F - Inter Milan, Dnipro, Saint Etienne

Group G - Sevilla, Standard Liege, Feyenoord

Group H - Lille, Wolfsburg, Everton

Group I - Napoli, Sparta Praha, Young Boys

Group J - Dynamo Kiev, Steaua, Rio Ave

Group K - Fiorentina, PAOK, Guingamp

Group L - Metalist, Trabzonspor, Legia.

Mike Burgess
67 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:36:38
Nice France and Germany trips so far
Mark Griffiths
68 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:35:54
Well so far we don't have any long distance trips which is good news!
Tony J Williams
69 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:35:01
Finally Krasnodar in Russian
Tony J Williams
70 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:39:02
Spoke too soon Mark
Ben Jones
71 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:39:02
Well that's the long trip. Footballing wise that's as hard as it could be.
Paul Dempsey
72 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:38:36
We spoke too soon Krasnodar? IÂ’ll be watching that on tele I think!
Craig Bellew
73 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:39:34
Group HLOSC(FRA)Wolfsburg(GER)Everton(ENG)Krasnodar(RUS)
Anthony Flack
75 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:40:12
Didn't the Russians hammer Real Sociedad to get through?
Nick Entwistle
76 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:39:42
I may be wrong, but don't Russian ties start earlier? Tea time kick off definitely on ITV4.
Robert Workman
77 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:39:29
Not a bad draw. Would have preferred Helsinki rather than a team in Southern Russia.
Mark Tanton
78 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:39:13
Ah yes, Nuremberg... Arteta penalty I believe.. favourite European memories? Kharkiv away was pretty intense...
Kunal Desai
79 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:39:45
So its Lille, Wolfsburg and Krasnodar. I think Wolfsberg will be tough opposition, but I expected to progress through to knockout stages. That's not that bad of a group.
Andrew Ellams
80 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:40:08
ThatÂ’s a tough group for this competition. Lille and Wolfsberg are good sides, never heard of Krasnodar
Jackie Barry
81 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:39:48
As hard as it could be? I would much rather be in this group than some of the others.
Craig Bellew
82 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:40:32
Dont know anything of the French or Russians with only Wolfsburg standing out as the main team to beat !
Nick Entwistle
83 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:41:37
Group A - Villarreal, Borussia Monchengladbach, Zurich, Apollon.

Group B - Copenhagen, Brugge, Torino, HJK.

Group C - Tottenham, Besiktas, Partizan Belgrade, Asteras.

Group D - Salzburg, Celtic, Dinamo Zagreb, Astra.

Group E - PSV Eindhoven, Panathinaikos, Estoril, Dinamo Moskva.

Group F - Inter Milan, Dnipro, Saint Etienne, Qarabag.

Group G - Sevilla, Standard Liege, Feyenoord, Rijeka.

Group H - Lille, Wolfsburg, Everton, Krasnodar.

Group I - Napoli, Sparta Praha, Young Boys, Slovan Bratislava.

Group J - Dynamo Kiev, Steaua, Rio Ave, AaB.

Group K - Fiorentina, PAOK, Guingamp, Dinamo Minsk.

Group L - Metalist, Trabzonspor, Legia, Lokeren.

Gerry Quinn
84 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:38:15
Origi and Kalou the "big" names at Lille.

Bendtner, de Bruyne at Wolfsburg

Nick Entwistle
85 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:42:27
Erm, Qarabag?
Craig Bellew
86 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:42:14
I was wondering who LOSC were or what the initials stood for so thanks Kunal.
Jackie Barry
87 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:44:43
Not bad, we can definitely progress from that group. It's never easy but we have the players to dispose of these teams.
Brett Jonathan
89 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:47:26
Salomon Kalou won't be at Lille when we play them.
Gerry Quinn
90 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:45:56
Big name at Krasnodar...nobody, but claim to fame for the city is...
Inna Zhukova, the gymnast???????
Matthew Roberts
91 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:46:35
Not bad but itÂ’s going to be tough: Lille are decent, Rom vs Origi (also Us vs the Shite) Wolfsburg are good and the Russian side, well theyÂ’re in Russia.
Harold Matthews
92 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:51:13
It's not the individuals or the pace we have to fear. With European sides, it's always the movement and the way they don't give the ball away.
Harold Matthews
93 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:51:13
It's not the individuals or the pace we have to fear. With European sides, it's always the movement and the way they don't give the ball away.
Chris Wilson
94 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:52:53
Ha! Considering our (USA) wonderful relations with Russia at the moment, I wonder if Tim Howard will be prevented from entering the country for the Krasnodar match? Something petty like too many tattoos. Or, that he is illegally exchanging carbon dioxide and oxygen? ; )
Sam Hoare
95 Posted 29/08/2014 at 12:58:01
Not the easiest draw by any means but could have been worse. Not sure how much opportunity we will get to the play the young guns. Think we will need the first team or thereabouts to see off that group....
Patrick Murphy
96 Posted 29/08/2014 at 13:04:07
I think the BBC's description is appropriate when it says the Everton handed tough European draw; it could have been worse but it could have been so much better. The good thing about playing these teams is that the players will learn a great deal about themselves and hopefully will rise to the occasion and secure enough points to keep our interest in the competition into the new year.

The Russian side could be problematic though as the relations between East and West are deteriorating rapidly.

Sean Patton
97 Posted 29/08/2014 at 13:12:56
Ridiculous draw really considering what they got yesterday being in pot 3 as well. If we win all the home games then a couple of draws or a win away should suffice.
Derek Knox
98 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:25:14

Take your points about the Russian game, but would imagine that if it is any where near a trouble spot, the game will either be played elsewhere (taking their home advantage away to a degree) or in exrtremes, for us to be handed a bye.

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