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Duffy joins Blackburn Rovers

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Everton have sold Irish international defender Shane Duffy to Blackburn Rovers in a deal reportedly worth 1.5m, with the deal expected to be ratified shortly.

Duffy spent last season on loan with Yeovil Town and returned to Finch Farm in May hoping to force his way into Roberto Martinez's first-team at Everton but will return to the Championship instead where he will get the chance to build his career in a permanent setting.

Duffy made a handful of appearances for the Blues' senior team under David Moyes, including as a youngster in the Europa League, but had yet to figure in a competitive fixture under Martinez.  

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Patrick Murphy
1 Posted 29/08/2014 at 16:39:22
I am a bit surprised, to be honest.
Paul Ferry
2 Posted 29/08/2014 at 16:39:41
Oh heck Andy Crooks is gonna throw a wobbler!

I get this, a decent amount of money will help with a Wellbeck loan with buy option (hopefully).

Central defence, however, at this moment in time is needs to be made stronger than weaker, so letÂ’s hope that Bobby has something up his sleeve.

Julian Wait
3 Posted 29/08/2014 at 16:38:18
Unsurprised by this to be honest. Good luck Shane.
Brent Stephens
4 Posted 29/08/2014 at 16:44:33
I can't say I'm surprised. I've watched him in the U21s, pre-season friendlies etc and nothing has jumped out to say he's going to go places (apart maybe from Blackburn).
Kevin Rowlands
5 Posted 29/08/2014 at 16:42:46
Not surprised, watched the team train in Miami last year and his ball control skills were, to put it kindly, woeful. Honestly don't understand some on here calling for him to get a game, he wasn't good enough to help keep Yeovil up in a lower division, by all accounts he seems to be a nice lad, good luck to him but nowhere near premiership quality.
Andy Meighan
6 Posted 29/08/2014 at 16:44:43
I see thereÂ’ve been a few on here recently wanting Duffy to be given a run in the side. I always got the impression it was never going to happen under Martinez.

I personally think the liability that is Jagielka should be benched and Stones brought in alongside the experienced Distin. I wonÂ’t hold my breath on that one, though. Anyway, I wish Duffy all the best... but thought we might have got double that fee.

Tony J Williams
7 Posted 29/08/2014 at 16:53:09
His fee and future wages will probably be for the Eto'o wages.

Thought he looked steady when he came in a few seasons ago but obviously stalled and not considered good enough by Martinez.

Ah well, let's keep looking

David Chait
8 Posted 29/08/2014 at 16:57:59
Well that answers that then.. Decent side to pick him
him up at least
Andy Whittingham
9 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:00:55
Surprised, I am not.
Tommy Campbell
10 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:09:47
Decent fee for someone completely unproven and who struggled to make any impact at the club.

I think heÂ’d found his level in the Championship and will carve out a decent career there. Much like Peter Clarke

David McKitt
11 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:14:23
Surprised, I am.
Mike Hughes
12 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:18:06
Hmmm ...... I wonder if we may see a new face recruited to defence - particularly CB - before 11pm on Monday night? I hope so.
Dave Brierley
13 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:17:35
Patrick's a bit surprised but Julian isn't. Brent's not at all surprised nor are Kevin and Andy, but David is !!!

I don't know if I am or not?

Kelvin Thomas
14 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:18:26
More suited to MoyesÂ’ style of play.
Good luck Shane. Could well be back in the prem soon.
Steavey Buckley
15 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:28:25
ٟ.5 million a bit cheap? 18 and 17 year olds from youth teams can cost as much, even from teams in the 1st division.
Eric Holland
16 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:42:47
ٟ.5m is a good price!

Never rated him, nor did Bobby.
So another CD to come in before the midnight hour on Monday ( or is it 11pm?)
Ron Vlaar would do me!!

Jim Bennings
17 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:46:22
Well that's great isn't it?

You gave two centre halves over 32, one that couldn't win a header against my grandma.

Very disappointed to be honest, he must have been total shite Duffy that's all I can say if he couldn't even get into a squad where there are only three centre halves now, can I even class Alcaraz as a first teamer?

Martinez needs to go and search now before Monday night.

Keith Glazzard
18 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:48:31
A good lad, and the best of luck to him in his career.
Chris Wilson
19 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:44:06
Well, this is a classic case of different managers, different philosophies. Duffy was definitely a Moyes type; big, strong lad, powerful in the air, dangerous on set pieces. Unfortunately, he just wasn't a good fit for RM, who is on the lookout for the modern center-back who can possess the ball and play out of the back.

But I salute him for his time with us, and especially for surviving that freak accident with the Irish Youth team where he collided with the goalkeeper and lacerated his liver. Kid almost died on the pitch. Tough kid, and he deserves an opportunity to play somewhere. Good luck to you, Shane.

Peter Z Jones
20 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:49:27
Yeovil did go down, but he was rated the best player in the championship last season according to It's a really reliable site with player ratings. We may end up regretting this one long term.

John Daley
21 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:55:34

Listen carefully and somewhere in the distance you can almost detect the sound of a solitary tear sliding down Andy Crooks cheek......just before he slumps to his knees and unleashes the most anguished, gut wrenching scream of 'GOD DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!' heard since Charlton Heston finally twigged that gorillas in green jumpsuits have succeeded Kopites as the biggest gobshites on Earth.

Jim Bennings
22 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:50:51
Yet another of that so-called great future group of Academy players that we all heard about gone anyway.

All the ones who came through in 2009 not one of them has made it.

Adam Forshaw
Jake Bidwell
Hope Akpan
Kieran Agard
Jose Baxter

And now Duffy.

Is it any wonder you fail to excited when you hear about our future youngsters?
None of them hardly make it.

What's the odds on McAleney going the same way?

Peter Gorman
23 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:56:08
I am surprised but then again I am not. The fee represents good value but maybe it isnÂ’t.
Richard Reeves
24 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:53:43
IÂ’ve always thought he would become a very good centre half but obviously not the type of player Roberto likes. Hope he does well for Blackburn.
James Elworthy
25 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:54:28
Saw him play for Yeovil a few times a typical lower league centre back, gone are the days of centre halves like Mick Lyons and Billy Wright, stoppers who good it 50 yards upfield when they have it
Not rated by El Bob just like Gueye and Velios ( did anyone see Gueye this week one on one with the keeper and how far wide his shot was)
James Elworthy
26 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:58:53
Hoof it 50 yards
Jim Bennings
27 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:57:17
So because Martinez doesn't rate centre halves who are big and strong in the air does that mean we, just keep getting destroyed in the air again all year?

I have said it for ages and I will say it again now....

Is somebody trying to tell me Jagielka is a fucking ball player???

Jamie Barlow
28 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:54:24
Never going to get in our team. He's probably 5th choice centre back.

He could be another of those players who aren't good enough for our first team but will go elsewhere and play consistently enough to become good enough for our first team, so we buy him back.

John Daley
29 Posted 29/08/2014 at 17:56:40
Good luck to lad by the way.

When he came into the side a few years back, he equipped himself admirably and was, bafflingly and prematurely (in my opinion), binned off by Moyes preferring to play an out of position Tony Hibbert at centre-half instead.

Never got much of a look in after that,but I wonder in what direction his career would have headed if he was allowed to carry on that little run in the first team for a while longer.

Jim Bennings
30 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:05:01
Distin, 37 in December

Jagielka...Laurel and Hardy rolled into one..

Alcaraz...muscle fatigued getting out of bed.

John Stones...thank god!!

Question is what happens if we get two or three injuries here?

James Elworthy
31 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:06:14
Moyes binned 2 top young centre backs Mustafi and Dier.
We also lost our best centre back Lescott too
Jags fails to win the first header and can't pass either
Stones in now we won 7 on the trot without Jags and time he was consigned to the bench and Barry made captain
Dick Brady
32 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:04:55
Could come back to haunt us like Eric Dier and Shkodran Mustafi but most likely he won't. Roberto never seemed interested in Duffy and I doubt he would have gotten much of a chance to impress if he stayed at Everton.

Duffy was already behind Distin, Jagielka, Stones and Alcaraz in the pecking order and I bet Brendan Galloway joining set him back another place.

Chances are Tyias Browning signing a new 3-year deal was the final straw for Duffy. I fully expect Roberto to trim the squad by moving on a few younger players who just aren't good enough.

Conor Grant, Conor McAleney, John Lundstram, Francisco Junior and Matthew Pennington had all better start impressing Roberto if they want to stay at Everton.

Gavin Johnson
33 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:12:06
1.5m seems a bit cheap in the current market for a young international. Hope we've got a sell-on clause attached to the deal

He's worth more..but not a great deal more!

Hope the cash is reinvested on a young left footed centre-half who's good enough to push Distin this season

Drew Shortis
34 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:13:34
Best of luck to him. I think he will have a decent career but from what I saw he lacked the pace and ball skills to rival John Stones. He's an old fashioned big strong centre-back and I think Blackburn is a good level for him to try and become a first team player. Hopefully we have inserted a decent buy on clause and will see some more cash for him in the future!
Tony Abrahams
35 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:14:23
What position did Moyes play?
Frank Crewe
36 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:00:30
@ Jim Benning. I'd say the odds are extreme high. If you're not at least regularly coming off the bench by the time you're 20 you can forget first team football. It's just not going to happen. You'll just be hanging around making up the reserve team numbers until you moved on.

These days you need ball control, strength, pace and athleticism. I just don't think English youngsters are prepared to put the work in to become premier league players. They have the ambition but not the work ethic.

Jon Ferguson
37 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:20:34
I didn't ever expect to see Duffy in the first team. Too slow and technically challenged. I think he'll do well in the Champuonship, which is still an impressive level to play at.

I agree with some of the other posts that I would have Stones ahead of Jags. If there is money left in the pot (as rumored), I'd love is to go for Nastastic at City. Cracking young defender who looks to have been frozen out. A Nastastic and Stones partnership could be a winning combination for another decade.

Pat Finegan
38 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:09:47
Ty Browning, Jim. Looks like Martinez sees him as the future. He must also have some faith in Brendan Galloway. Both players look destined to be centre halves. I think they're 5th and 6th choice.
Drew Shortis
39 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:19:20
James Elworthy 31
I agree with you that Jagielka's lack of aerial composure is becoming a bit of a concern but I have lost count of the number of times he has put in fantastic saving tackles and blocks. However, his distribution is also poor and I think this is the next area for Martinez to focus on. Distin still has his pace and strength but is also becoming a liability on the air which is surprising for an athletic 6'4" bruiser. Stones clearly has bright future at the centre of our defence. Who's going to be his long term partner? Perhaps in a few years time Galloway will make the step up. Bruno Martins Indi anyone?
Kristian Boyce
40 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:18:31
Think Duffy has found his level. He's a bit of an old school CB, that didn't fit into our style. Glad we got ٟ.5m for him, better than losing him on free transfer like some of the recent departures. Hopefully we've got a sell on clause like the Forshaw deal.
Wayne Smyth
41 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:22:19
Gavin I reckon we will have a substantial sell on clause and so its good for all parties.

Duffy is never going to be as good as he can be stuck in our reserves, or even going out for 3 or 6 month loan spells. I've a sneaky suspicion that we'll be seeing him again as a premier league defender in a few years - as we did with Richard Dunn - after he's had a chance to get a few seasons of regular football.

He may not be a ball playing defender, but if he can defend then he'll do ok and he'll be good enough for teams whose managers don't demand them being as technically sound.

Aidy Dews
42 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:43:57
IÂ’m not surprised heÂ’s gone but a bit gutted he didnÂ’t get a fair chance under Martinez. For me, Duffy is a proper defender, gets a foot in and tries to put his head on everything in there but sadly for him, Martinez likes a ball player at the back.

In pre season though he showed up well and looked decent on the ball but heÂ’s been deemed not good enough and a move to Blackburn is a good move for him and good luck, I think heÂ’ll do well and come on leaps and bounds at Rovers.

Ajay Gopal
43 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:36:49
Wayne, I agree, most defenders reach their prime in the 28-35 years age bracket, so Duffy could well be back in the Premiership if he continues to work hard in the Championship. He might do well in a Stoke/West Ham type team.
Dick Brady
44 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:18:44
Jim Bennings,

Adam Forshaw was voted League One Player Of The Season last term and this week Brentford accepted a ٢-5M bid for him. He'll be playing for Wigan in the Championship this season and I fully expect him to reach the Premiership sooner rather than later.

Jake Bidwell has become something of a stalwart for Brentford. He's the first name in the starting eleven and has played over 100 times in three years. Last season he was voted into the League One Team of the Season. This season he's been made Captain despite being only 21.

Hope Akpan joined Crawley after leaving Everton and impressed so much he got a big move to then Premiership side Reading. He played several times in the Premiership before Reading were relegated but since then he's been a regular starter for them in the Championship.

Kieran Agard helped Rotherham win promotion to Division 1 a couple of seasons ago and the last year he helped them win a second promotion in 2-years when Rotherham won the play-off final and jumped into the Championship. Agard himself finished third highest goalscorer in Division 1.

Jose Baxter joined Oldham after leaving Everton and soon established himself as one of the best young players in Division 1. David Weir paid 𧺬,000 to transfer Baxter to Sheff Utd. New manager Nigel Clough has used Baxter as an ever-present and last season he scored 8 goals from midfield. He's already scored twice in four games this season. He slowly developing into one of the best midfielders in the division and he'll play at a higher soon.

How you can claim none of them has made it strikes me unfair. I would suggest they have all done pretty well for themselves and expect two or three of them to play in the Premiership one day.

Most of the lads that you named have done really well for themselves. I would say they are probably one of the better group of Academy players to leave Everton.

Gavin Johnson
45 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:45:26
Wasn't he in the final year of his contract?

Browning sounds like he's got a future.. I hope he's better at centre half than right back though.

James Newcombe
46 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:50:39
I was just thinking to myself this afternoon, it's about time he was given a chance now, if ever! Best of luck to him anyway.
Mark Wilson
47 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:45:01
So many surprised, so many not surprised ! Me? Not.....well I will be if we don't sign another central defender who can actually make headed clearances in our box. I know Roberto wants silky skills playing the ball out of defence. I know he wants athletic defenders who can be mistaken for midfielders. I like the style but frankly I just want a defender who wins the ball, clears it to row Z when things are dangerous and HEADS the ball well.

At present I honestly don't think we have players of this type at the club. Am I alone in thinking we need one....soon ?

Ajay Gopal
48 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:49:30
I think this must also mean that Roberto is in the market for a central defender. Nastasic and Bruno Martin are both good shouts. Most here have written off Alcaraz, but it is obvious that RM rates him highly, and whenever he has played, I have been impressed (except that own goal - was it against Arsenal in the FA Cup?). So, if no one come in this transfer window, Roberto will rotate among Jagielka, Distin, Stones, Alcaraz and Browning. For Galloway, it may be a season too soon.
Peter Laing
49 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:58:42
Ok so Shane Duffy leaves, didn't really get a crack or have the chance to prove himself in the Premier league but we now have to recruit a left sided centre back to cover or replace Distin. Alcaraz is too injury prone / unreliable to be considered as serious competition, Roberto needs to splash the cash, at least Monday with Jim and Natalie will be a bit more interesting.
Gavin Johnson
50 Posted 29/08/2014 at 18:58:26
Ajay, Bruno Martin's just signed for Porto. I don't think they paid stupid money either, he could have been ready-made first 11, left sided centre half for us. I didn't think he looked much like a ball playing defender on the little I saw of him in the world cup though.

The Tom Cleverly rumour won't go away. Villa have had a 8m bid accepted and the Telegraph are saying ourselves and Hull will rival them for his signature..Would prefer Chantome personally

Denis Richardson
51 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:09:14
A nice lad by all accounts but I didn't ever really think he was Everton first team quality. Pace and ball skills were not good enough imo.

Blackburn and the Championship is a good level for him though, maybe with a couple of full seasons under his belt there he may be ready for the step up.

Good luck to him.

Tony Foxwell
52 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:15:27
Cannot understand why Roberto under-sells a decent youngster and keeps the Kroldrup back-up in Alcaraz. I hope Roberto is signing a couple of players with the 2m sell on fee from Forshaw and the poor ٟ.5m for Duffy, added to what, if anything, he had before.

Duffy will return to the Premier League a better player and for a much bigger fee. I hope we have a sell on clause as well.

Jim Bennings
53 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:16:52
I was reading reports harking back to when Duffy was in the team, January 2012 after an injury to Jagielka, it's funny how everybody was commenting after s 1-1 hone draw with Blackburn "the only bright spot was the performance of Shane Duffy"

Another says " Duffy looks a real future prospect, held us together or we'd have been steamrollered"

He even nearly win the game late on with a header that came off the bar.

Funny how now he's been sold he is deemed no longer Everton quality.

He was never given a chance was he?

Oh well I suppose when we start conceding more cheap as chips goals from setpieces, most likely tomorrow again we can all start our discussion of what centre half we need to sign before Monday.

Christopher Timmins
54 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:22:10
Best of luck to Shane, it looked as if he had a future at the club a couple of years ago. He had a spell in the team, was it January 2 or 3 years ago.

Given the age profile of the central defenders that remain we need to be thinking of either giving Stones more game time or sign a younger back up option.

Danny Kewley
55 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:27:41
Good luck in your new job lad and hope you end up doing really well !
Kevin Rowlands
56 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:29:44
JB #53, do you seriously think Martinez just didn't give him a chance? c'mon, he's watched him in training for the last two pre seasons, probably had scouting reports on him from Yeovil, talked to members of his staff about him and decided he's not good enough for Everton, it's that simple really.
Ed Fitzgerald
57 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:31:27
Good business for us and a good move for him as too. Given that we have Stones, Browning and Galloway perhaps it makes sense financially to get a fee for him.

Someitmes players need to move on to make it, it happens at all clubs we aren't unique in that. Forshaw is doing well and we have just pocketed 2 M for him despite selling a few seasons ago.

Andy Crooks
58 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:37:31
Where do I begin? I suppose in response to Kevin Rowlands. Kevin, Martinez might have watched him in training but we have a coach who wouldn't recognize a defender if one shat in his fucking lap. Alcaraz for fucks sake.

Frankly, this is the must gutting news I heard come out of Everton since Alan Ball was sold. A totally in-fucking-comprehensible decision. We have Jagielka, feeble and done. Distin, done. Alcaraz, shit and Stones. Duffy obviously didn't fit the Martinez way which seems to be, defend like scared rabbits at set pieces, get intimidated by anyone who gives a dirty look and concede goals in a Wigan type way.

Duffy looked good when he had his chance after a life threatening injury. In seems to me, though, that Martinez has his favourites and I fear it will be as difficult for them to be dropped as it was under Moyes. Jim Bennings, you are spot on, Duffy wasn't given a chance. .

I accept that I may be a bit upset at this news but, honest to God, it will be some time before I can listen to the inane platitudes of Martinez without putting my boot through the fucking television.

Dave Lynch
59 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:51:53
I'm with Andy.
Fucking gutted...
Lev Vellene
60 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:54:15
I can only hope RM will be involved in getting people into, and beyond(!), the U21 now, unlike DM who never cared much beyond trying them out for the one game with all the nerves on the outside...
Kevin Rowlands
61 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:54:34
AC #58, jesus lad talk about an over reaction, this isn't Ross Barkley that's been sold you know, it's somebody that's been deemed not good enough, and he isn't. Maybe you should read James #25 post, he's actually seen him play a few times, and maybe you should contact Everton about a defensive coaching role seeing you seem to know a lot more about that than the current coaching staff.
Mark Frere
62 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:57:41
I'm sorry to see him go. I really thought with the Europa League and Capital Cup he would at least get some playing time to show if he could make it.

As mentioned above though, Duffy is a bit 'old school for Bobby's liking so this was always the likely outcome.

Hopefully the funds from Duffy and Forshaw can go towards the signing of Micah Richards; he only has 1 year left on his contract and has been frozen out at Man City. Micah is still only 26 years old and is a terrific RB who can play CB as well. Please make this happen Bobby! If anything happens to Coleman we are up the shit creek! And Coleman can't be expected to play every game in every competition. Stones and Hibbert are just way below the standard we need.

Danny Harris
63 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:47:23
I think it happens to other clubs just as much as ours – you let players go who donÂ’t fit in or perform and then appear 3 years later looking the part with some other team; that’s life, IÂ’m afraid. You canÂ’t keep a 40-man squad just because, one day, one might become good.

Players develop at all different ages and sometimes a move can be the kick up the butt they need to go earn themselves a living. Ask most parents how the kids perform once they leave home? They grow up and change... while, at home, they probably never would.

Harold Matthews
64 Posted 29/08/2014 at 19:44:06
Good move for the lad. The Irish manager will want him to have regular games. Hope we replace him with a tough experienced pro who makes few mistakes and can head the ball. Youngsters at the back make me nervous.

Dick @44. Thanks for the info. Our boys seem to be doing very well for themselves.

Kevin Rowlands
65 Posted 29/08/2014 at 20:12:17
Also AC #58, if you do some proper research you will find out that RM's Everton had the THIRD best defensive record in the premiership last season, that's right, only Man City and Chelsea were better, I'd say that's not bad for a bloke who wouldn't know a defender if he shit in his lap.

Personally for me I'm not quite ready to write them off just yet like you, until the 83rd minute vs Arsenal we were very comfortable. I'm also guessing that the England manager doesn't quite see it like you either seeing Jags has just been called up again, not a bad achievement for someone who's 'done'!

Ian Bennett
67 Posted 29/08/2014 at 20:14:51
Yep, good move for him.

I think it's a decent fee for a player that is not going to fit Roberto's style long term. I guess it will have incentives rather being pure cash, and like the fee for Forshaw might give us a future windfall.

Missing out on Dier looks a huge mistake based on 2 games for me, and with Alcaraz, Distin, Jags, and Hibbert ageing, I think we need another younger/established pro to come in. Nastasic for me on loan.

Paul Ferry
68 Posted 29/08/2014 at 20:23:22
Kevin (Rowlands), do you have confidence in the Jags/Distin pairing in the middle of defence?
Drew O'Neall
69 Posted 29/08/2014 at 20:33:03
A lot of people are saying decent fee.

I'd suggest ٟ.5m for an international is pretty light.

I hope we have a future sell on / appearances clause.

Rick Tarleton
70 Posted 29/08/2014 at 20:33:20
The display he gave alongside Heitinga a couple of years ago suggested he'd turn out to be a real talent. I wish him well, he deserved a chance and perhaps he and Stones could have been the future.
Derek Knox
71 Posted 29/08/2014 at 20:25:09
I can only imagine that this move has gone ahead, because there is another one on his way.

I liked Duffy, but without sounding like the fox with the sour grapes, I couldn't see him realistically making the step up, and Bobby and Co. have decided to let him go and further his career.

Mind you, he seems to have been around for ages, and has had many chances to stake a legitimate claim. Maybe, he was always destined to be a Championship player at best.

I trust Bobby on this, and doubt whether this will be a Dier and Mustafi type mistake.

Ironically this is the position we are possibly weakest in, so trust quality reinforcement / s are getting kitted out as we speak.

Best of luck Shane, and if we ever draw Blackburn in the Cups, make sure you have a shit game.

Raymond Fox
72 Posted 29/08/2014 at 20:25:48
Should add to previous post.

How come if the defenders cant defend and our Roberto wouldn't know a defender if he fell over one, did we have the 3rd best defence in the Prem. last year!

In theory most goals could be stopped.

Tommy Campbell
73 Posted 29/08/2014 at 20:32:32
#44 Dick

I like your post itÂ’s informative about those players and IÂ’m glad that each of them has gone on to make some sort of career for themselves.

But this is Everton Football Club weÂ’re talking about and none of those lads would have cut the mustard with us and none have proven themselves at the highest level despite the hundreds of league games they have collectively amassed.

I would say Duffy is of a similar standard and will have a decent career, being referred to often as a Â’good honest proÂ’.

Andy Crooks
74 Posted 29/08/2014 at 20:39:59
Kevin, Martinez, inherited a proper defence. Let's see him build a new one.

Kevin Rowlands
75 Posted 29/08/2014 at 20:51:09
Andy, incase you forgotten OFM never played or rated Duffy either, so in your opinion a 'proper' defense is now 'feeble and done', or am I missing something here?
Kieran Kinsella
76 Posted 29/08/2014 at 20:56:55
Duffy leaving is like when Richard Dunne left -- he may become a solid old fashioned centre half or he may become a lower league journeyman. Either way he's no Bobby Moore. Baffled as to the comparisons with Alan Ball leaving. We've lost many better players than Duffy since Ball. For example: Rooney, Lineker, Keown, Speed, Kanchelskis, Ferguson, Gray, Arteta, Steven, frankly even Unsworth, Dunne and Matt Jackson were better.
Tommy Campbell
77 Posted 29/08/2014 at 21:05:53
Mustafi and Dier have also proved absolutely nothing yet. Mustafi made the Germany squad but Howedes and Mertersacker were in front of him and I'm not sure i'd swap Jags for either of those.

Stones has everything to become the best English CB of his generation so we are ok there. We do need to give him time to develop.

Andy Crooks
78 Posted 29/08/2014 at 21:08:00
Kevin, in my view two good defenders have passed their best at the same time, this season.

Kevin Rowlands
79 Posted 29/08/2014 at 21:05:19
Paul #68, yes I do, you don't go from the third best defensive outfit in the league to total dogshit overnight. I also accept that this is probably Distins last season and I doubt he will play every game, I'm pretty sure we will see a lot more of Stones this season and maybe Galloway and Browning in the cup games.

It does seem that Martinez also feels that there will be change in the next few years with the contract extensions for Stones and Browning and the signing of Galloway, fact is if they thought Duffy was good enough he would also have been signed up,instead he was sold, tells you all you need to know really.

Kevin Rowlands
80 Posted 29/08/2014 at 21:16:33
Andy, the season is TWO games old!
Tommy Campbell
81 Posted 29/08/2014 at 21:23:45

Distin has been a decent servant but his limitations have been exposed on so many occasions. His natural recovery strength and speed often made him look good despite the fact he was mainly making amends for his own poor positioning and decision making.

Now, the recovery speed and strength is going we are seeing him got what he is.

I'll add this caveat though, I never dreamed he'd have the ability or confidence to play out from the back as Martinez wanted but he's been nearly faultless in this way since - a shame he and Roberto cross paths at such a late stage in his career

Kevin Tully
82 Posted 29/08/2014 at 21:30:44
Who thinks we will score against Chelsea tomorrow? I do, and I expect us to score against any side that visits G.P. this season.

After a decade of watching bore draws, holding on to 1-0 leads for dear life, and generally 'keeping it tight' whenever we played anyone with half a threat, I will put up with conceding a few more goals.

I want to see Everton go step over that line and say 'fuck you' to any club that comes visiting. It seems some are longing for the days of 'not conceding.'

Let me tell you something, I haven't been this entertained watching the blues since we won the League. I pay to go and watch us try and win a football game, and come away knowing we tried to out-score the opposition. If that means concentrating on attack, rather than twatting the ball towards the corner flag, whilst leaving a stranded lone striker up top then that suits me just fine.

Short memories on here alright.

Colin Glassar
83 Posted 29/08/2014 at 21:36:39
Good luck Duffy lad. I only saw him play a few times and he seemed ok but that kidney injury hampered his progress. Definitely a ginger type player.
Aidan Wade
84 Posted 29/08/2014 at 21:24:58
A good move for Duffy, his first team chances were going to be zero this season and probably next and I'm not sure he was the play out from the back type player Martinez would prefer to come in eventually.
Carl Taylor
85 Posted 29/08/2014 at 21:46:34
I canÂ’t believe the outpouring of emotions over Shane Duffy. IÂ’m sure heÂ’s a nice fella but he is an average footballer and far from a first team regular. There seems more negative reaction to his sale than our usual big money summer sale, e.g. Fellaini, Lescott, Arteta etc, to fund transfer activity.

Good luck to him and I hope he has a great career, but letÂ’s concentrate on the present and future of our club. I hope we have some cover for centre back coming in, but Shane obviously wasnÂ’t the answer.

Kevin Tully @ 82, couldnÂ’t agree more. We are much better to watch now and it is great to feel we have the attitude of this is what weÂ’re going to do to win, rather than how can we stop them beating us, even if results havenÂ’t improved to the level we all desire.

Finally, why are the Beeb saying tough draw for Everton. Tough draw for Wolfsburg, Lille and the Russian outfit!!

Andrew Hawes
86 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:03:49
HeÂ’s had 2 managers, had a full pre-season and neither has ever shown the slightest trust in him? So there is a reason for that... Move on .

I would like to see that 1.5 million going on another Stones or Coleman though, one for the future.

Matt Muzi
87 Posted 29/08/2014 at 21:58:57
Good luck to Duffy, hope it all goes well for him at Blackburn.

Fingers crossed we bring in another CD, even if it's a loan, before Monday 11pm.

Drew O'Neall
88 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:30:52
I see former Blues target Vadis Odjidja-Ofoe has been snaffled up by Norwich now.. They really sniff around our bins eh?
Sam Hoare
89 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:34:29
Thought this was likely to happen. Good luck to the lad, can see him at a WBA premiership team in the coming years.

Doesn't give us a lot of options at CB unless Martinez is ready to put some more serious trust in Browning.

Kevin Rowlands
90 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:33:25
Not sure why some think we need to bring a CD in the next couple of days, we have Jags, Distin, Alcaraz, Stones, Galloway, Browning and I'm sure Besic can and has played that position before, that's 7 players covering 2 positions, bringing in another means less opportunities for the younger lads in the cup competitions doesn't it?
Craig Fletcher
91 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:31:41
Good luck to Duffy, hope all goes well for him at Blackburn. He never seemed likely to be in RM’s first team plans so this move makes sense for him.

As for the worries about our numbers at defence, we have Jags, Distin, Stones, Alcaraz, Besic could be moved there, plus the youngsters Galloway and Browning.

The bigger concern is if Jags/ Distin do prove to be on the decline this year....the younger lads will really need to step up.

Mike Allison
92 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:38:08
For the sake of a bit of hysteria, people seem to have forgotten what Jagielka's all about. He's been part of one of the best defences in the Premier League for six or seven years and now one so called fan is calling him Laurel and Hardy rolled into one? Behave yourself Jim. And to answer your question, we play, probably in this order, Jagielka, Distin, Stones, Alcaraz, Barry, Besic, Browning, Hibbert or Galloway at centre back.

The loss of a big lad who may be good in the air but can't play football is not something to be getting upset about and start forgetting yourself and slagging off our captain.

Terry Murphy
93 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:43:14
I think long-term we'll have Besic in CD with his clone in DM.
Peter Jones
94 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:50:57
I think I would have trusted Moyes' judgement on a central defender more than any of you fuckers. As for Duffy, he seems a good lad. Best of luck to him.
Kevin Rowlands
95 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:54:58
Well said MA #92, some fans have very short memories, Phil Jagielka is one hell of a player!
Sean Kelly
96 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:52:21
Good luck to Duffy. Unfortunately he wouldn't have made it at Everton under Roberto.

I'm in hospital here and need cheering up with a new signing. Will Henen sign in the next 48 hours?

Eric Holland
97 Posted 29/08/2014 at 22:49:38
Well said Mike @92
You would think we had just sold Stones for ٟ.5mill the way some of them are crying themselves to sleep tonight.
Get a grip ٟ.5 million for a fringe player is good business.

I wish the lad well and if he proves Bobby wrong good on him,
I wont hold my breath though.

Mike Allison
98 Posted 29/08/2014 at 23:00:35
That's an odd one Sean, seemed like it was going to be done weeks ago. Hope you're okay and not in for anything serious, but if you are, you've got everyone reading this site right now on your side.

I'd be happy with what we've got even if no-one signed though. I wrote in April that we needed to sign six players for this season. Four of them needed to be the loan players we had at the time (Barry, Lukaku, Deulofeu, Traore) or replacements. We've done that.

The other two needed to be a central midfielder and a back-up right back. The only thing we're short of is a back-up right back, and between Ty Browning and the flexibility of people like Stones and Besic it's not exactly a disaster if it doesn't happen.

Tommy Davis
99 Posted 29/08/2014 at 21:36:14
Whilst wishing Shane Duffy all the very best for his future, I am gobsmacked that this is such earth shattering news to some & to be "the most gutting news I heard come out of Everton since Alan Ball was sold"..........I honestly do not see, how one of the few truly world class players, we have ever had in Alan Ball being sold, can compare with a reserve center back being allowed to go & both having a similar effect?!?

The fact we got a then record fee for Bally (𧶔,000) had little, or zero consolation to thousands of Evertonians & to this day it still has me upset when thinking about it! Had we received ٣ or ٥ mill for Duffy, I think most on TW would have been ecstatic & not thought too much about him after that..........maybe?!?

I'm sure both Roberto & OFM had their reasons in not playing Duffy, but why the obsession with him? Perhaps we all wanted him to be our future mainstay at the back, cos he came through the ranks, but if we had the 3rd best defensive record in the Prem last season, I can see why he was never given the chance...........maybe?

I must admit I do not like our younger players being sold, or having to leave, but sadly it is now worse than it has ever been at this level. Ideally I would like to have seen him go out on loan (to Blackburn) initially, with an option for them to buy, but also with a recall proviso, then that way I believe we could perhaps have negotiated a higher fee, if he was producing the goods, or brought him back at our convenience!!

Lastly, I think if we had won both games this season, I honestly believe Duffy being allowed to go wouldn't be of any great concern (to most), however it seems the anti Martinez brigade, see this as an opportunity to vent & have got their knives out........ to sharpen once again!?

Best of luck to you Shane, go prove to yourself & all those who think you couldn't make it!!

Colin Glassar
100 Posted 29/08/2014 at 23:13:10
This money will be used to pay for Henen.
Sean Kelly
101 Posted 29/08/2014 at 23:07:50
Thanks Mike I was hoping we would go for Marshall as cover and a left sided centre-back. Distin has been great but time has caught up on him. He can't be expected to play in the majority of our games but it would've interesting to see if Besic could do a job there.

I had a turn yesterday and a fall. Bloody diabetes has me banjaxed.

Colin Glassar
102 Posted 29/08/2014 at 23:14:38
Great post tommy.
Mike Allison
103 Posted 29/08/2014 at 23:20:10
I think we'll see a lot more from Alcaraz this season. This is fitness dependent of course, but he has looked absolutely imperious at times, not least in the 2013 FA Cup quarter-final. The Anfield derby seems to have finished his career in the eyes of many blues but I tend to have faith in men of character to bounce back from set-backs, and Alcaraz seems to me to be a man of character. I'm convinced Besic will only be used in central midfield, certainly this season. Centre back in the Premier League is different to centre back in Hungary.
Sean Kelly
104 Posted 29/08/2014 at 23:27:53
Any word from Colin Glasser on any last minute incomings. There's a lot of shite gossip doing the rounds over here about McCarthy being sold last minute so that Billy will have money in the kitty for January. We all know that money usually disappears down the couch.
Nicholas Ryan
105 Posted 29/08/2014 at 23:28:04
Shane Duffy is good ... just not good enough. People are presuming RM wanted to get rid of him. I'm not sure that's true; it's simply, that money is tight, and when a good club came along, offering ٟ.5 mil cash for a fringe player, then economic reality took over, and he had to go.
Nigel Gregson
106 Posted 29/08/2014 at 23:39:40
Wow overreacting much here folks ? Great post Tommy Davies #99 - pretty much sums up what I wanted to say. Mark Frere #62 - fully agree with you about us trying to get Micah Richards. I think Micah Should be on Bobby's radar if not already. He'd fit in perfectly in an area where we need cover (i.e. both RB and CB), and he's young, full of potential with still his best years ahead of him.
Mike Green
108 Posted 30/08/2014 at 00:05:41
Good luck to Shane Duffy - he seems like a good lad who deserves a decent career where he can look back at the minutes he's played and I hope the honours he's won.

He isn't going to get enough of those moments with us because, personally, I don't think he's good enough for the top end of the top flight, and most likely never will be.

He's certainly good enough to play at a high standard and reach his potential elsewhere so I'll keep an eye out and wish him the very best on his way.

Harold Matthews
109 Posted 30/08/2014 at 01:03:58
Thanks Drew. Vadis Ofoe to Norwich. Interesting.
Mike Childs
110 Posted 30/08/2014 at 00:34:16
Never had a chance to see him play but given our present state of affairs I hope it doesn't bite. It appears as if Father Time has taken up residency with Distin. Jags confidence has really taken a beating like Torres aka lady boy since he got injured last year. Up until then he and Jags had been rock solid nothing spectacular but not a bunch of school boy errors must have been tough on him watching Stones step in and the team responding with a winning streak.

As for sign ups if I'm not mistaken both Manure and the Gooners tried to pry Vlaar from Villa and we're told for-get-ta-about-it. I like Nastatic can't believe he's being out played by DeMecellis. Got to be a matter of trust by Pelligrini. Even if he's allowed to leave, City hardly need to sell so they can hold out for a kings' ransom. I for one feel like I maybe beating a dead horse here but those two boys at the back for Leicester are decent and have a few attributes that we sorely lack height and physicality. Maybe they don't have the passing skills that Martinez looks for. Sure would be very useful for set pieces.

Andy Crooks
111 Posted 30/08/2014 at 01:27:42
I think I should explain. I've followed Shane Duffy's career since he was a young lad. When he signed for Everton I could not have been more proud than if I was related to him. He is a great lad and a fine footballer. I genuinely believed he would captain Everton. I make no apology for wanting Irish lads to make it at Everton.

However, in my disappointment today I criticised our manager our captain and was, frankly, a little over the top. I apologize for that. I believe he will make it as a Premier League player and wish him all the luck in the world. I am still bitterly disappointed but, later today we can beat Chelsea and move on and up. I don't expect other Evertonians to to believe it is the worse news since Alan Ball went. That is just how it feels to me. COYB

Eric Holland
112 Posted 30/08/2014 at 02:35:09
Nice one Andy think you just got a little respect there.
Good luck to him hope he does well.
Ant Dwyer
113 Posted 30/08/2014 at 02:39:51
Good luck to Shane. To be honest, he looked a fairly decent prospect to me — but who am I!?!
David Nicholls
114 Posted 30/08/2014 at 03:33:16
I feel some posters are being very harsh on Jagielka. I don’t get the impression he’s on top of his game right now but I have always felt he is one of those players that you don’t see the best of until he has had a run of around 15 games. The match sharpness kicks in and it makes a huge difference. With games coming thick and fast it won’t be long before he is one of the best defenders in the league again.

He went into the world cup after a spell out injured so I feared for him a bit but he did well, despite the southern journos claims that John Terry would have made all the difference. They even tried to blame him for Suarez’s 2nd. How can anyone anticipate Crease Head flicking the ball right into
Suarez’s path while in an offside position?

Regards the OP, I really hope Duffy carves a good career for himself. I never personally felt he was good enough for a top 6 Prem side but has enough about him to make it at the level just below. If he does well at Rovers I could see him ending up at someone like Stoke, Villa or Man Utd!

Mark Andersson
115 Posted 30/08/2014 at 02:08:49
Enjoyed reading all the posts. Nice to see Andy Crooks explain his first out burst. The day Alan Ball was sold I was so gutted that being an Evertonian became a little less important in my life. It was not until the mid-80s when I had the privilege to witness the golden years again did my obsession with anything blue came back. Now, at the age of 54, nothing ever surprises me in football. Good luck, today is going to be a tough one.
Mike Gaynes
116 Posted 30/08/2014 at 05:45:56
It would be hard to find two more different managers than David Moyes and Roberto Martinez. Neither rated the lad. At all. In the absence of any other information (I saw him play only twice), that's good enough for me.

Now let's all gather round Andy and help him through it. He's had a very rough day.

Dan Humphrey
117 Posted 30/08/2014 at 07:34:22
Further to posts #22 and #44, Â’TotoÂ’ Nsiala is at my hometown club Grimsby Town. (He left Southport at the end of last season.) Rumoured that he turned down Port Vale in a higher division to join GTFC to try to win promotion back to the league.

The Mariners also got ex-Evertonian youth midfielder Scott Brown from Southport (from the Rooney-era youth team), both doing well, hopefully the pair of ex-Blues will emulate Jevons-type achievements too..... ;)

Oh, and John Oster, remember him, is playing centre-midfield (honest) for Gateshead in our division.

Jim Jones
118 Posted 30/08/2014 at 09:05:50
Good Luck to the lad.

I saw his home debut vs BATE Borisov – he looked good until he made a mistake and then his confidence just seemed to evaporate.

Not good enough for Everton; I expect Galloway to Â’take his placeÂ’ in the backup squad.

Jim Jones
119 Posted 30/08/2014 at 09:10:49
After all, Brendan Galloway is from the those Champions League team Â’dragon slayersÂ’ MK Dons....
James Marshall
120 Posted 30/08/2014 at 10:18:18
Thank god for that; now everyone can stop harping on about putting him in the team. He was clearly never any good, otherwise he would have played, and we wouldn't have flogged him for tuppence.

Ajay Gopal
121 Posted 30/08/2014 at 10:09:33
Andy, we all have a footballer that we desperately want to succeed. For me, that player was James Vaughan.

When he left, I felt that David Moyes had screwed his career and I was sure that he would succeed somewhere and show Moyes how wrong he was. Unfortunately, it never happened for James. Last season, he was the leading scorer in the Championship up until 15 games or so (when he scored something like 10-12 goals for Huddersfield), but then faded away dramatically.

I think at some point, we just have to accept that the Manager knows best what is happening. Finally, it is his call. If Shane does indeed make it as a top-class footballer, I will be happy for him.

Mark Pierpoint
122 Posted 30/08/2014 at 10:38:25
Fair move for all concerned really. I think the criticism of Jags is a bit unfair. Still thinks he has a lot to offer. It is Distin that I have concerns about. Stones and Jags would be CB for me. Alcaraz was a free transfer and I feel he will be important in Europe. I do feel we need a quality option now. Around the 26-27 age. We have a lot of players either very young or getting on in our team.

Duffy leaving has a lot to do the with the European group I think. I don't know how many opportunities there will be for the younger players with the group we have (if we are serious about progressing in the tournament).

Neil Cremin
123 Posted 30/08/2014 at 10:41:21
The main point is we have a very suspect defence, already conceded 4 goals, and most of the talk I hear is all about wingers and forwards. It has been obvious for years that we needed to build a replacement for Jags and Distin. Alcaraz is also over 30 so that leaves our future dependant on Stones. Thankfully McCarthy is able to paper over cracks. Therefore we should not be selling centre-halves until replacements are in place.

One comment about Duffy's ball skills being poor – are they any worse than Jagielka's?

One final thought, last time we made top four how many games did we win 1-0. Pretty football is fine but need to learn to close out game.

Jim Potter
124 Posted 30/08/2014 at 10:52:42
Good luck to the lad. Needed a move to kick start his career.

I hope this means cover is coming in before the window smashes shut.

Danny Kewley
125 Posted 30/08/2014 at 10:48:58
Andy, I know how you feel lad. All the best to Shane and I hope he cracks on and fills some of the holes in Blackburn Lancashire...........
Eugene Ruane
126 Posted 30/08/2014 at 11:23:47
Very best of luck to him, hope he does really well for them (and himself).

Have to admit I'm always a little disappointed when one of the young lads goes as I'm never really sure if they'd have been great/cack (specially if they've never had a real run).

Still, that's modern football I suppose and one thing Rooney leaving taught me, anyone can arrive and anyone can leave and there's no point in getting too attached to any of them.

Up The Toffees!

Dave Abrahams
127 Posted 30/08/2014 at 13:24:58
IÂ’m sorry Duffy has gone, I hope he does well at Blackburn.

If I had to choose between Jags and Distin, it would be Distin every time. Jags is great stopper but very poor on the ball – a bit like Tony Hibbert going forward.

Alex Jones
128 Posted 30/08/2014 at 15:38:27
I think these comments about our defenders being finished two games in are ludicrous. Jags and Distin, like all our team, are short of match sharpness but are certainly not finished. Jags played well for the majority of the game last week but was tired at the end. As he gets fitter he'll be back to top form as will Distin. I accept they will lose that yard of pace as they get older and would like to see Distin particularly phased out with an able replacement bur for now they are still part of the one of the most solid defences in the league.
David Minahan
129 Posted 31/08/2014 at 13:32:39
Are we sure Duffy has gone?
No confirmation on either our or Blackburns,s official web sites?


Phil Walling
130 Posted 31/08/2014 at 19:21:57
Centre halves are so old fashioned. Martinez has found a way to marginalise them in one season flat.

Let's get some more centre forwards in. It's just more goals we wants !

Brian Maitland
131 Posted 01/09/2014 at 13:07:20
He's an utter waste of space that shouldÂ’ve been shown the door a few years ago. HeÂ’s never been good enough for this level, his attitude has always been awful, heÂ’s slow, shocking bad ball control and is, to be honest, a muppet off the pitch. Shut the door behind you, Duffy .

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