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Besic's close circle

09/09/2014  Comments (46)  jump
Everton's enigmatic new signing was interviewed by the Bosnian press recently and he reveals his dislike for drinking, smoking and clubbing, how much defeats affect him and how he prefers the insular surroundings of his family and girlfriend.

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Brian Garside
1 Posted 09/09/2014 at 19:55:41
Just as well he didn't sign for us in the 80s!
Gerry Quinn
2 Posted 09/09/2014 at 20:12:02
Wow - wonder what he felt like after THAT Chelsea game?

Sounds a right miserable twat, and I betcha he gets himself sent off within his next 3 games!

I also wonder what the dressing room "team togetherness" is like now... should have been a Tax Collector.

Peter Bell
3 Posted 09/09/2014 at 21:19:02
After the Anfield derby, posters were on here saying we lacked a nasty streak: take the stage, Mr Besic.
Denis Richardson
4 Posted 09/09/2014 at 21:38:56
What a miserable he's a barrel of laughs at the Xmas party!
Rob Halligan
5 Posted 09/09/2014 at 21:41:19
Sounds like the model professional to me!! Look at Wilsheire, caught smoking not once, but twice. Then we have Rooney flinging himself on grannies. There are probably too many footballers to mention, who have been caught boozing.

As for the grumbling about losing, that's exactly what you want in a player: players who hate to lose will try their hardest to make sure they don't lose too often. Whisky nose drummed it into his players, the winning mentality. Hence the reason why some average players won so much at OT.

Though I do agree with some that perhaps he could be more sociable.

Paul Hewitt
6 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:08:52
This lad won't be at Everton for long with that attitude.
Milos Milenkovic
7 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:15:34
Had a very good game tonight, unfortunate to hit the bar after great turn.
Wayne Smyth
8 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:15:46
Getting called a miserable git by people on here, is akin to being called "a bit of a nasty cunt" by Josef Stalin.

I for one am glad his off-field activities sound unlikely to interfere with his development as a professional footballer; if his performances are any good, I don't think anyone will care if he hates drinking, smoking or doesn't feel the need for a big social circle.

Apparently that Royston Drenthe is good fun to be around though, so much fun in fact, that they had to get rid of him at Championship Reading.

Peter Bell
9 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:41:48
Paul @6,

I don't understand your point.>He could be the consumate professional, it's his choice what he does outside of his job. As others have pointed out, would you prefer a Van der Meyde / Drenthe mentallity?

Si Cooper
10 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:58:29
Don't think I've ever met anyone who claimed to have no friends and to not need them. Seems a little strange for someone who plays a team game, but I suppose it isn't essential.

Lack of distractions / vices should be good for his application / dedication to his career, but you do wonder how he lets off steam / deals with adversity. Moping around the house for a couple of days doesn't seem the ideal way.

Peter Bell
11 Posted 09/09/2014 at 23:27:35
Si, Peter Reid refused to do the open top bus tour in 86 doesnt mean he was not a team player or a miserable git,
Alex Trevalyn
12 Posted 09/09/2014 at 23:42:05
Peter, I was not aware of that, any reasons why??
Peter Bell
13 Posted 09/09/2014 at 23:48:40
Alex, it was cos some idiot decided that both teams would do it in the same open top bus, and the RS had just won the double.
Derek Thomas
14 Posted 10/09/2014 at 00:06:42

Takes all sorts; being a quiet stay at home lad is not the worst thing for a young athlete, neither is hates losing, also given the translation thing, 'Friends' might hint at 'hangers-on'.

Let's see him after 20 games – not 20 mins.

Mike Hughes
15 Posted 10/09/2014 at 00:58:32
Rob #5
I just love the image of Rooney 'flinging himself on grannies'. Priceless!

Back heels aside, I like the sound of Besic. He sounds like he has a winner's attitude.

Ajay Gopal
16 Posted 10/09/2014 at 05:10:33
I assume that he and Andy van Der Meyde are not best mates.
Derek Knox
17 Posted 10/09/2014 at 05:04:12
I bet Mo would get into Jack Tiberius Byrne's 'Circle' in Meet the Fockers, don't know about the tattoos though.:-)

I like Mo, and although he made that horrendous mistake, against Chelsea, he didn't exactly lose the game for us. It was far too late to bring a sub on, to make any real impact anyway.

I feel that, given a bit of time, we will have a real player on our hands. Maybe, just maybe, those mistakes will galvanise him into being a better player for us.

He certainly doesn't seem to be one of those Champagne Charlie players. I thought the other guy we were linked with, Susic, didn't play badly, although he was subbed in the second half.

Michael Penley
18 Posted 10/09/2014 at 05:19:45
God, family, drink-free and smoke-free and yet he is covered in tattoos. Something's missing here. Reminds me of those "straight edge" people in punk rock, who have usually regretted their choices in youth and decided to steer clear of that stuff. Good for him, I suppose.
Matt Traynor
19 Posted 10/09/2014 at 06:36:28
Peter #11 & #13. That was ridiculous though, have the players (double runners up) parade with the team that won it at our expense. I'm amazed that Everton agreed to it. I can't recall, but I can't imagine that many Blues turned out to cheer them parading the trophy. (OT - I recall being in a pub in town in 2001 I think, when they won the three cups, and a load of beauts from Glasgow were down to watch it. When asked, I told them quite politely no, I wasn't going to watch them, but hoped they enjoyed their day. As Rangers fans, I asked them how they enjoyed the Celtic victory parades around the same time. Fortunately they weren't the Begbie types, and understood the analogy.

When we last won something, in 1995, our 'keeper didn't stick around for the party afterwards (despite having done as much as anyone to win it - still remember that late double save from Scholes). When asked on camera, he said something along the lines that when you spend as long as you do with this lot, you're glad to get away and he was instead going home to celebrate with his family.

He may not have been Mr. Party in the dressing room, but that team (and the teams before it) sure valued his contribution on the pitch. Where it mattered.

Mark Griffiths
20 Posted 10/09/2014 at 07:06:41
Matt 19: yeah Big Nev never socialised and cycled back to Llandudno as soon as the final whistle went! If Besic has half the impact the big guy had then he can lock himself under the stairs with a mug of horlicks and a copy of war and peace for all I care!
MIke McLean
21 Posted 10/09/2014 at 08:01:55
A close relative ended up in Intensive Care ... ventilated, on drips - the full monty. He was quite an enthusiastic party animal and had gone down with septicaemia.

The consultant Intensivist told me that alcohol inhibits and severely affects soft tissue repair as well as having a whole list of other jolly effects on bone, brain tissue etc. And prolonged use can lead to sepsis. It was news to me.

Stick to your guns, Mo. Maybe if other young athletes put milk on their cornflakes instead of vodka, they might return a lot more quickly from nagging injuries.

Joseph Clarke
22 Posted 10/09/2014 at 07:39:45
If I want to watch personalities perform, I would go to the cinema. I don't want to know that Everton players are the life and soul of the pub, or club, or that they have an army of women chasing after them.

Sports people, if they want to reach the top and win trophies, have to be dedicated to the sport, and have a powerful desire to win every competition. These are the qualities Besic seems to embrace.

It is becoming a bit of a pastime on here for some people to undermine and criticise players who recently joined us. Sometimes before they have kicked a ball for the team. Besic looks to me to be a potentially great player. This view seems to be shared by our manager. If this happens, it is all and everything I would want from an Everton player.

Nick Entwistle
23 Posted 10/09/2014 at 08:40:49
I also prefer the insular surroundings of my girlfriend.

And I also can't believe we're into the 20s before someone said it.

Alan McGuffog
24 Posted 10/09/2014 at 10:48:46
Gentlemen... a couple of points if I may.

His name and his place of birth make me think that, in terms of religion, he is of the Islamic faith. There have been one or two mentions of this faith in the press of late. Seemingly the tenets of this religion take a dim view of the demon drink, gambling and the like.

My other point is that he is a professional sportsman... he does footie for a living. Most of us on this site have played amateur football to varying standards. I was always pretty shite but, like many of you, enjoyed playing in a team of mates and the after match "unwinding".

Before I retired, I enjoyed a drink or six with of a Friday with my work mates. Some guys never came out however, preferring to socialise at home with their families. They were bloody good at the job though.

You don’t have to live in each others pockets to be effective. From what I can gather, The Beatles couldn’t stand the sight of each other from the mid-sixties onwards. Still knocked out a few good tunes mind.

Clarence Yurcan
25 Posted 10/09/2014 at 14:11:41
I'm married, so I haven't seen the insular surroundings of a woman in many years.
Joseph Clarke
26 Posted 10/09/2014 at 14:18:19

I don’t care if he doesn’t tell jokes;
I don’t care that he doesn’t smoke;
I don’t care that he doesn’t like the booze;
I do care that he hates to lose.

I don’t mind that he has a god;
In this unjust world maybe
You need to hope
That something or someone, gives a sod.

I don’t care that he likes a tattoo
He is a young person
It is what young people like to do.

I don’t want to see him nightly,
With a different woman on the news.
The only time I want to see him score
Is for the mighty Blues.


Brian Hill
27 Posted 10/09/2014 at 14:55:49
Who needs friends when you have ToffeeWeb?
Andrew Ellams
28 Posted 10/09/2014 at 15:15:25
I said before he signed that this lad seemed to have a touch of the Joey Bartons on the field. I just hope his insular surroundings donÂ’t alienate him from his new team mates and make it difficult for him to settle in a new country and new league.
Tony J Williams
29 Posted 10/09/2014 at 16:13:12
I couldn't give a flying squirrels left nut if he is a Billy no mates and prefers the insular surroundings of his misses to snorting coke off a prossie's tits.

We have been crying out for a nasty little bastard in the middle for ages and it looks like he could fill the part.

Don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do? (Copyright some New Age prick in the 80s) – Put in a bloody hard tackle and screw the consequences.

He'll do for me.

Amit Vithlani
30 Posted 10/09/2014 at 17:21:19
Looking forward to him nailing a few of the oppo this season - Joey Barton, Stevie-La, Chiekh Tiote spring to mind. Shame Suarez is not with the RS. Would have loved to see him try and take a bite out of our tee-total no-nonsense Bosnian. He would have been perfect for those Ronseal adverts of years gone by.
Nigel Gregson
31 Posted 10/09/2014 at 17:54:29
Well put Tony Williams (#29). I couldn't agree more, haha.
Si Cooper
32 Posted 10/09/2014 at 17:33:46
Peter Bell (11) - I am struggling to see what that has to do with my comments (10). I don't think I actually judged the lad for his personal choices, just commented that they appear extreme.

Is Reidy famous for having no mates outside of his immediate family? Was he known to be reclusive rather than proactive when dealing with disappointment?

I have known plenty of family orientated players who don't hang around after a game when they can avoid it, but I've never met one who was quite so insular as to claim to not having any friends inside or outside the club, nor needing them. Excessive drinking / partying is obviously not the answer, but being able to discuss problems / concerns with someone who really understands the issues could be beneficial. It's horses for courses. Sometimes it is important to have an impartial opinion you feel you can trust, which is what I feel I get more from my mates than from family at times.

Is it known that his parents and brother have accompanied him to help him settle now he has moved to the UK?

Brent Stephens
33 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:12:41
I don't have a problem with his lifestyle. Nothing wrong at all in what he does. Compared to many a tosser in the game.

Phil Bellis
34 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:13:14
"What advice would you give give to a young player starting out on a professional career?"

Big Dunc: "Stay in more"

Tommy Davis
35 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:00:01
Nice one, Joseph C (#26), damn good job indeed mate!!
Darryl Ritchie
36 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:14:19
What he does away from the park is his own business. I sincerely hope everyone in a blue shirt hates to lose.
Peter Carpenter
37 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:29:21
Sounds like an exciting lifestyle to me. Just throw in a bit of train spotting and it would be perfect...
Paul Hewitt
38 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:48:23

Football is a team game; this lad sounds like he has no team spirit. TeHe also looks like a miserable sod.

Phil Walling
39 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:49:59
Sound much like his fellow Muslim, cricketer Moeen Ali, whom I know to be a good guy all round.
Peter Bell
40 Posted 10/09/2014 at 19:51:00
Total contrast to the story on here a few weeks ago about Billy Kenny.

Billy Kenny took some criticism on here and now some are sceptical that Besic leads a clean lifestyle.
My vote goes to the Besic methodology.

Brent Stephens
41 Posted 10/09/2014 at 20:42:38
Paul #38 "Football is a team game; this lad sounds like he has no team spirit." Who is to say he's not a team player?! Has no team spirit?!

"He also looks like a miserable sod." And some just sound like miserable sods.

Dave Pritchard
43 Posted 10/09/2014 at 20:47:21
The comments on here about Besic from some people sound like those people know him. Not one of these people (presumably) have met him and yet are able to make judgements on his character based on an article they have read. How is this possible?
Andy Meighan
44 Posted 10/09/2014 at 21:41:27
Rather he was like that than someone like that bellend Balotelli, in the rags every other day because heÂ’s banging some (as Eugene beautifully put it) satsuma coloured blonde and showing off his latest motor. If the lad does the business on the park, I couldnÂ’t give a fuck if he lived like a Trappist monk off it. Each to their own... Put it this way I bet he hasnÂ’t got a behaviour clause in his contract unlike some. What has football come to, I ask you?
Michael Penley
45 Posted 11/09/2014 at 03:38:55
#43 There are many ways of judging character, and one that involves standing in front of someone wagging their chin at you ('talking') is not necessarily more valid than any other, like seeing a photo of someone passed out at a party, or judging a job applicant based on their CV. You might say all methods are equally unreliable.
Dave Pritchard
46 Posted 11/09/2014 at 09:53:57
I agree with you Michael (45). My point, obviously badly made, was that it is wrong to jump to conclusions based on one written article.
Tony J Williams
47 Posted 11/09/2014 at 10:54:20
Apparently Michael, you CAN tell a persons character and how they are if they don't become susceptible to your constant drunken looks in a crowded room.

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