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1 Posted 09/09/2014 at 19:55:41
2 Posted 09/09/2014 at 20:12:02
Sounds a right miserable twat, and I betcha he gets himself sent off within his next 3 games!
I also wonder what the dressing room "team togetherness" is like now... should have been a Tax Collector.
3 Posted 09/09/2014 at 21:19:02
4 Posted 09/09/2014 at 21:38:56
5 Posted 09/09/2014 at 21:41:19
As for the grumbling about losing, that's exactly what you want in a player: players who hate to lose will try their hardest to make sure they don't lose too often. Whisky nose drummed it into his players, the winning mentality. Hence the reason why some average players won so much at OT.
Though I do agree with some that perhaps he could be more sociable.
6 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:08:52
7 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:15:34
8 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:15:46
I for one am glad his off-field activities sound unlikely to interfere with his development as a professional footballer; if his performances are any good, I don't think anyone will care if he hates drinking, smoking or doesn't feel the need for a big social circle.
Apparently that Royston Drenthe is good fun to be around though, so much fun in fact, that they had to get rid of him at Championship Reading.
9 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:41:48
I don't understand your point.>He could be the consumate professional, it's his choice what he does outside of his job. As others have pointed out, would you prefer a Van der Meyde / Drenthe mentallity?
10 Posted 09/09/2014 at 22:58:29
Lack of distractions / vices should be good for his application / dedication to his career, but you do wonder how he lets off steam / deals with adversity. Moping around the house for a couple of days doesn't seem the ideal way.
11 Posted 09/09/2014 at 23:27:35
12 Posted 09/09/2014 at 23:42:05
13 Posted 09/09/2014 at 23:48:40
14 Posted 10/09/2014 at 00:06:42
Takes all sorts; being a quiet stay at home lad is not the worst thing for a young athlete, neither is hates losing, also given the translation thing, 'Friends' might hint at 'hangers-on'.
Let's see him after 20 games Â– not 20 mins.
15 Posted 10/09/2014 at 00:58:32
I just love the image of Rooney 'flinging himself on grannies'. Priceless!
Back heels aside, I like the sound of Besic. He sounds like he has a winner's attitude.
16 Posted 10/09/2014 at 05:10:33
17 Posted 10/09/2014 at 05:04:12
I like Mo, and although he made that horrendous mistake, against Chelsea, he didn't exactly lose the game for us. It was far too late to bring a sub on, to make any real impact anyway.
I feel that, given a bit of time, we will have a real player on our hands. Maybe, just maybe, those mistakes will galvanise him into being a better player for us.
He certainly doesn't seem to be one of those Champagne Charlie players. I thought the other guy we were linked with, Susic, didn't play badly, although he was subbed in the second half.
18 Posted 10/09/2014 at 05:19:45
19 Posted 10/09/2014 at 06:36:28
When we last won something, in 1995, our 'keeper didn't stick around for the party afterwards (despite having done as much as anyone to win it - still remember that late double save from Scholes). When asked on camera, he said something along the lines that when you spend as long as you do with this lot, you're glad to get away and he was instead going home to celebrate with his family.
He may not have been Mr. Party in the dressing room, but that team (and the teams before it) sure valued his contribution on the pitch. Where it mattered.
20 Posted 10/09/2014 at 07:06:41
21 Posted 10/09/2014 at 08:01:55
The consultant Intensivist told me that alcohol inhibits and severely affects soft tissue repair as well as having a whole list of other jolly effects on bone, brain tissue etc. And prolonged use can lead to sepsis. It was news to me.
Stick to your guns, Mo. Maybe if other young athletes put milk on their cornflakes instead of vodka, they might return a lot more quickly from nagging injuries.
22 Posted 10/09/2014 at 07:39:45
Sports people, if they want to reach the top and win trophies, have to be dedicated to the sport, and have a powerful desire to win every competition. These are the qualities Besic seems to embrace.
It is becoming a bit of a pastime on here for some people to undermine and criticise players who recently joined us. Sometimes before they have kicked a ball for the team. Besic looks to me to be a potentially great player. This view seems to be shared by our manager. If this happens, it is all and everything I would want from an Everton player.
23 Posted 10/09/2014 at 08:40:49
And I also can't believe we're into the 20s before someone said it.
24 Posted 10/09/2014 at 10:48:46
His name and his place of birth make me think that, in terms of religion, he is of the Islamic faith. There have been one or two mentions of this faith in the press of late. Seemingly the tenets of this religion take a dim view of the demon drink, gambling and the like.
My other point is that he is a professional sportsman... he does footie for a living. Most of us on this site have played amateur football to varying standards. I was always pretty shite but, like many of you, enjoyed playing in a team of mates and the after match "unwinding".
Before I retired, I enjoyed a drink or six with of a Friday with my work mates. Some guys never came out however, preferring to socialise at home with their families. They were bloody good at the job though.
You don’t have to live in each others pockets to be effective. From what I can gather, The Beatles couldn’t stand the sight of each other from the mid-sixties onwards. Still knocked out a few good tunes mind.
25 Posted 10/09/2014 at 14:11:41
26 Posted 10/09/2014 at 14:18:19
I don’t care if he doesn’t tell jokes;
I don’t care that he doesn’t smoke;
I don’t care that he doesn’t like the booze;
I do care that he hates to lose.
I don’t mind that he has a god;
In this unjust world maybe
You need to hope
That something or someone, gives a sod.
I don’t care that he likes a tattoo
He is a young person
It is what young people like to do.
I don’t want to see him nightly,
With a different woman on the news.
The only time I want to see him score
Is for the mighty Blues.
27 Posted 10/09/2014 at 14:55:49
28 Posted 10/09/2014 at 15:15:25
29 Posted 10/09/2014 at 16:13:12
We have been crying out for a nasty little bastard in the middle for ages and it looks like he could fill the part.
Don't drink, don't smoke, what do you do? (Copyright some New Age prick in the 80s) Â– Put in a bloody hard tackle and screw the consequences.
He'll do for me.
30 Posted 10/09/2014 at 17:21:19
31 Posted 10/09/2014 at 17:54:29
32 Posted 10/09/2014 at 17:33:46
Is Reidy famous for having no mates outside of his immediate family? Was he known to be reclusive rather than proactive when dealing with disappointment?
I have known plenty of family orientated players who don't hang around after a game when they can avoid it, but I've never met one who was quite so insular as to claim to not having any friends inside or outside the club, nor needing them. Excessive drinking / partying is obviously not the answer, but being able to discuss problems / concerns with someone who really understands the issues could be beneficial. It's horses for courses. Sometimes it is important to have an impartial opinion you feel you can trust, which is what I feel I get more from my mates than from family at times.
Is it known that his parents and brother have accompanied him to help him settle now he has moved to the UK?
33 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:12:41
34 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:13:14
Big Dunc: "Stay in more"
35 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:00:01
36 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:14:19
37 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:29:21
38 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:48:23
Football is a team game; this lad sounds like he has no team spirit. TeHe also looks like a miserable sod.
39 Posted 10/09/2014 at 18:49:59
40 Posted 10/09/2014 at 19:51:00
Billy Kenny took some criticism on here and now some are sceptical that Besic leads a clean lifestyle.
My vote goes to the Besic methodology.
41 Posted 10/09/2014 at 20:42:38
"He also looks like a miserable sod." And some just sound like miserable sods.
43 Posted 10/09/2014 at 20:47:21
44 Posted 10/09/2014 at 21:41:27
45 Posted 11/09/2014 at 03:38:55
46 Posted 11/09/2014 at 09:53:57
47 Posted 11/09/2014 at 10:54:20
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