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Architects concept for city centre joint stadium
A firm of architects has drawn up far-fetched plans for a shared stadium for Liverpool and Everton – created by flattening St Johns Shopping Centre.
NWD Architects is behind the bold blueprints, which would see a new city centre ground within touching distance of Liverpool Lime Street station.
It says the left-field proposals would help regenerate the precinct, which is also home to St Johns Market, and attract hotel and leisure developments.
Graham Lewis, senior architect at NWD Architects, said: “We feel that the site is ideal for such a use.
“Football has always been at the heart of this city and the inclusion of a state-of-the-art stadium in the city centre will ensure that it remains so.
“The site is ideal because of its links with public transport, the railway stations at Lime Street Station and Liverpool Central.
Read the full article at Liverpool Echo
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2 Posted 19/09/2014 at 15:28:44
Next.
3 Posted 19/09/2014 at 15:29:58
4 Posted 19/09/2014 at 15:47:48
Flattening the precinct? Absolutely fabulous (biggest eyesore in the City Centre).
Sharing with the shite? Not so fabulous.
5 Posted 19/09/2014 at 15:44:12
- In Munich, Bayern and 1860 Munich share a stadium. The "big" club, Bayern, have grown exponentially in commercial/financial sense since they moved. The "little" club, 1860, were crippled by their part of the mortgage and sold their share of the stadium to Bayern for a modest price. They now rent from their neighbours.
- In Turin, Juventus have recently moved to their own stadium and are raking in the profits. Torino stayed at the old ground and are in ill shape financially (although they are in Europe this year).
- In Rome, AS Roma is starting the build of their own stadium next year because they are very dissapointed with the shared stadium. Lazio are also looking into building a purpose-build own stadium.
Milan has the only shared stadium that seems to be a succes. But it has to be said that overall, both AC and Inter have always been top-20 in Europe/the world. Especially the Munich-example frightens me as Bayern has more or less eaten 1860 alive with the new stadium. I do not accept that we are smaller than LFC in the long run. But I do accept that the last 20 years and probably the coming 10 or so as well, they did/will pull in far more money than we do. And that's asking for disaster if you plan to build a shared stadium. It will never be on equal terms.
Therefore, I oppose a shared stadium out of hand.
6 Posted 19/09/2014 at 16:26:26
Interesting, verry verry interestingggg!!
Are the architects American?....does NWD stand for No Way Dude!!!...... see what I did there?
I know, I know, but screw it, it's Friday and almost clocking off time.
7 Posted 19/09/2014 at 16:33:44
8 Posted 19/09/2014 at 16:48:33
The Football Quarter is still the best idea [two stadia, with a shared tourist, transport and community infrastructure] - in theory, this could work with Walton Hall Park, although I believe we should be very careful not to trash what we already have. The atmosphere in Goodison Road, The Winslow and outside St Luke's last night was quite something, and an incremental expansion of Goodison is technically possible, despite the club's claims to the contrary.
Nevertheless, there is still some sense in looking at a central site [as at the Millennium stadium or in Newcastle], where even the biggest crowd is smaller than that dealt with routinely every day by the city centre infrastructure. The actual proposal in the architects' sketch is impractical, but the underlying idea should make people think.
Does a world-class football stadium belong [a] in the city centre, next to theatres, opera houses and cathedrals, [b] out in the quieter suburbs or [c] in a far-flung industrial estate on the edge of town? We missed out on Kings Dock, and the Tunnel Loop was a real possibility, as was Clarence Dock. But this latest sketch could still provide food for thought.
9 Posted 19/09/2014 at 17:23:58
10 Posted 19/09/2014 at 17:47:56
11 Posted 19/09/2014 at 18:34:43
We threw away a golden opportunity at the Kings Dock not just to dominate the city but to make money out of conferencing and concerts (the Echo Arena is a Joke) as well as giving away fans a great day out.
We would actually be playing there now instead of dreaming about Walton Hall Park or redeveloping Goodison sometime in the distant and very expensive future.
12 Posted 19/09/2014 at 19:42:56
13 Posted 19/09/2014 at 19:53:39
14 Posted 19/09/2014 at 20:44:46
Er, Liverpool are developing their stadium right now... we have proposals nearby in Walton Hall Park.
Flattening St Johns Centre is a good idea though!
15 Posted 19/09/2014 at 21:37:25
This article shows what could be done though. Such a shame.
16 Posted 19/09/2014 at 21:49:57
LFC and Everton sharing a stadium? WAY beyond abstract!!!
Everton is British (yeah, I'm not...), but the reason those hordes of Norwegians come to LFC games is because they still think LFC is a British team! And British close rivals don't share grounds. Ever! ...
Let mafia-funded central-/south-Europeans share concrete-built surroundings...
Everton (and GP, despite the bad stuff/views, is still Royal Blue to its foundations!)
Imagine LFC playing a game on Monday, and then on Saturday you still haven't cleared the ground of fatso's grunting 'Liverpool rules!' whenever you nudge them towards a drain??? :D
Lev
17 Posted 19/09/2014 at 22:34:10
18 Posted 19/09/2014 at 22:49:25
19 Posted 19/09/2014 at 22:55:16
20 Posted 20/09/2014 at 00:19:43
21 Posted 20/09/2014 at 00:28:14
Erik, little side note about 1860 Munich. I lived in Munich for a while and their fans are deplorable. There is a sizable neo-nazi fanbase associated with the club and the Lions, as they like to call themselves, make no effort to address this problem. So, quite frankly, they can’t fall far enough into oblivion for me. Let Bayern eat them alive.
22 Posted 20/09/2014 at 00:36:32
Fuck THAT!
If St Johns is flattened, where are we supposed to go for our 17 nicker adidididas trainees or our 8 nicker Sergio Tackini trackie tops?
Some of you really don't think these things through.
23 Posted 20/09/2014 at 06:38:21
Why do we have to have the RS too?
24 Posted 20/09/2014 at 09:42:32
25 Posted 20/09/2014 at 09:48:00
And where the fuck I am going to get my chicken-in-a-basket if the Top Rank closes?
26 Posted 20/09/2014 at 10:36:25
27 Posted 20/09/2014 at 10:40:00
28 Posted 20/09/2014 at 11:36:09
Or here's an idea ... Who says the Echo Arena has to last for ever? I know it's not old but it's not particularly wonderful so knock it down and build the Kings Dock that we all want, somewhere the city can be proud of. If we have the money for WHP why not spend it on something far better?
29 Posted 20/09/2014 at 12:11:14
I've been patiently waiting for construction to start on 'The Derek Zoolander School For Kids Who Can't Read Good & Want To Do Other Stuff Good Too', but I suppose this sure-fire winner in the shape of a shared stadium scheme will have to suffice.
Still, not sure about the location though.
Surely, knocking down St Johns poses a significant risk to public safety with it currently serving as a tightly contained quarantine zone for fucking quid shops.
30 Posted 20/09/2014 at 12:08:36
The biggest gaff the board ever made IMHO
31 Posted 20/09/2014 at 14:44:30
32 Posted 20/09/2014 at 15:43:53
33 Posted 20/09/2014 at 19:48:32
I want a Stadium move as much as anybody, but not at the deter ament of that Precinct.
Oh btw COYB
34 Posted 21/09/2014 at 06:49:31
You need a big stadium to compete with the big boys. Look at Villareal, great team, but they are not a perennial champions league team because their stadium seats only 20,000. You can have one or two great seasons because of your coach or your players but to have long term success you need money to sustain it.
35 Posted 25/09/2014 at 11:40:48
36 Posted 30/09/2014 at 19:56:44
Walton Park, how utterly boring and unimaginative.
Kings Dock was the one but realign the skyline down town I say.
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1 Posted 19/09/2014 at 15:26:30