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Kone desperate to make his comeback

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Arouna Kone says that he can't wait to get back into first-team action after spending a year out injured but he is having to be patient in slowly building up his fitness as his recovery is still not 100% complete.

The Ivorian had to undergo surgery on his knee a year ago this month and looked to be ready to make his return to competitive action last month following a successful behind-closed-doors friendly against Stoke City at Finch Farm, an outing with the U21s and his inclusion on the team sheet against Swansea in the League Cup.

Kone admits that his long rehabilitation has been "a really trying time", particularly given that he is still unsure when he will be 100% fit. The striker, a 6m acquisition from Roberto Martinez's former club, Wigan Athletic, last summer, is still feeling some pain in his knee and that is holding back his return.

"The worst thing has been the uncertainty about the injury and never quite knowing when I would be able to come back," the 30-year-old told evertonfc.com. You continue training and working hard but in the back of your mind, you don't know when you are going to be fully recovered.

"In a way, it's worse than something like a break or a ligament injury where you know you have a finite time where you can assess the period of recovery. At least you have a date to aim for.

I would say I am at 70 per cent now in terms of the pain I am still feeling — I have got a slight twinge of pain from the injury.

I can't stress enough how really keen I am to be back playing, he added. I am desperate to regain full fitness and be back out on the field."

Quotes sourced from EvertonFC.com


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James Carroll
1 Posted 07/10/2014 at 19:09:50
Biggest sicknote in the club's history?
This has got to even beat Danny Williamson and Andy Van De Merde.
Ian McDowell
2 Posted 07/10/2014 at 19:16:02
Look forward to seeing you (hopefully).
Denis Richardson
3 Posted 07/10/2014 at 19:15:24
He's at 70% and still feels some pain in his knee? That doesn't sound like a player who's going to be available any time soon unfortunately. Shame as I thought making the bench against Swansea would be the start of his comeback.

Have to feel sorry for the guy, players don't get injured on purpose. Luckily we've got Eto'o and Lukaku anyway.

Jim Bennings
4 Posted 07/10/2014 at 19:25:29
I really didn't like the bit where I read about him feeling pain in his knee, surely that shouldn't be the case what 12 months on nearly?

I just really hope Kone doesn't end up retiring because I seem to recall reading a similar story in the late '90s regarding Joe Parkinson, who himself had struggled badly with knee problems and sadly ended up giving up his fight following advice from a specialist.

I really don't think Kone should still be feeling pain; it should now be a case of regaining match fitness but surely the physical pain side of things should be gone by now?

Quite worrying...

He certainly won't be back soon after all – how the hell did he make the bench against Swansea???

James Flynn
5 Posted 07/10/2014 at 19:35:51
At this point, I accept that his knee is shot.
Colin Glassar
6 Posted 07/10/2014 at 19:35:48
Kone? Kone? Kone? Where have I heard that name before?
Jim Bennings
7 Posted 07/10/2014 at 19:40:33
I do really feel for Kone because it must be a nightmare having your body let you down in this manner.

It's pretty hard at this minute in time to see how he can comeback and be anything like the player that managed a more than respectable 13 in his first year in England with relegated Wigan.

A real shame because he just might have given us a different option going forward at times, feel like we've been kinda robbed of a player basically, as I say he isn't a world beater but he did show he had something to offer at Wigan.

Real shame but at least we know the situation now.

Gavin Johnson
8 Posted 07/10/2014 at 19:36:27
Bill, lots of people have said Martinez has been found out by other managers, but I don't buy that. Most teams have a certain way they play and they don't tend to chop and change every week to keep other teams guessing. We're no different.

It's more likely that with half the squad out injured, particularly in key attacking areas, those that are filling in are just not as competent.

I think if we'd have had Pienaar, Coleman and Mirallas fit, we'd probably be sitting in a Champions League spot by now. Hibbert, McGeady and Atsu really have been a step down.

Lyndon Lloyd
9 Posted 07/10/2014 at 19:51:22
I'd complained bitterly about our non preperation for this season and was repeatedly accused of being negative and picking holes in everything Martinez did – or didn't do. So I've given it a miss recently to see if those who claimed pre-season didn't matter had a case. I don't think they do.

When Pienaar came off at Leicester, he was in such distress, I thought he would need oxygen. I can't / won't believe that the poor conditioning of our players has not contributed to the amount of injuries we have racked up. A match-fit Pienaar would be a very welcome addition to what we have now. Those who are criticising him now would do well to remember that.

Derek Knox
10 Posted 07/10/2014 at 19:53:57
Colin#6

Where have you heard that name before?

Probably on the motorway, when traffic is restricted to either one or two lanes, creating mayhem, and there is no sign of any work being done.

Not dissimilar to our form at the moment.

Steve Guy
11 Posted 07/10/2014 at 20:04:42
Phil, if you'll notice, Tony actually used some facts to back up his opinions, and I think most of those facts are fairly irrefutable....otherwise I suppose you'd have refuted them?

We did go there missing quite a few of our best players. We (well OFM anyway) used to go to OT and try to "get out of there alive". The man himself told us so. Did it make you proud when you heard him say that?

Martinez didn't use osmosis to force Baines to miss a pen; and unless you're sitting there reading this with tinfoil on your head, I think you'll agree with that.

De Gea certainly did put in a world class performance to deny us; Van Gaal told us so... and I'm not sure I can remember the last time the Man Utd goalie was MotM when we played them away.

Our attitude since Martinez arrived has generally been to go toe to toe with whoever we play, as opposed to "managing a result", and our historical results at Anfield, OT and against Chelsea and Arsenal have generally been poor, so two draws and two losses are probably about par for the course.

Anyway, I'm with Tony on this. Win or lose, I couldn't stand the previous regime's spineless attitude. We may be going through a bad patch, but at least we're giving it a go and actually trying to win.

Christopher Wallace
12 Posted 07/10/2014 at 20:01:12
I sincerely hope that that there are no derogatory remarks aimed towards Kone. He just got the biggest opportunity of his career and his bloody knee gives out. It is a nightmare injury It would be foolish to play unless he’s 100% confident that his knee has recovered.

A buddy of mine returned after nearly 12 months out with an ACL and it went again in his 2nd kickabout. Get fit soon Arouna, we could do with you right about now!

Steve Woods
13 Posted 07/10/2014 at 20:04:38
Derek (10) that did give me a genuine LOL and for just a fleeting moment put the gloom of this crap season (to date) out of my mind. Thanks!
Clive Rogers
15 Posted 07/10/2014 at 20:06:37
One fly in the ointment here might just be the opinion of Baines himself. Okay, he was asked to study other players who’ve made the same switch and may have been receptive to the idea out of respect for his boss but, when it boils down to it, he’s a left back by trade. A bloody good one. Always has been.

He’s spent years in the shadow of Ashley Cole, slowly catching him, breathing down his neck, clambering over his shoulder, pulling his kecks down and mooning him as he motors past and finally securing his place as England’s unquestioned first choice fullback. At this stage in his career, is he really going to want to put that at risk to start experimenting with learning a totally alien position, when there’s no guarantee’s it would work out or that he can seamlessly slip straight back to how things were before?

James Smith
16 Posted 07/10/2014 at 20:54:19
So far, he's been worth every penny of that ٤M, and people had doubts about his age!....
Steve Orchard
17 Posted 07/10/2014 at 20:52:31
I agree, Clive, we might have to put it down to bad luck and move on which is a shame as I thought he was a decent player in the Prem for Wigan, a bit Andy Johnson like in style and workrate.

Has he actually made his Prem debut yet? I know he played a few friendlies...

Derek Knox
18 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:02:48
Steve (#13),

Glad I have brought a bit of a chuckle to you, at times like this you have got to have a bit of a laugh, otherwise you would end up in tears.

Let's just hope we have more to cheer about after the International Break.

Dave Pritchard
19 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:17:00
At least Stones can't get injured in the England matches coming up now he's withdrawn from the squad. Oh, hang on a minute........
Ian McDowell
20 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:18:37
We sell a ٣ million 28-year-old in Jelavic. Replace him with a crocked ٤ million 30-year-old.

Great Business!

Harold Matthews
21 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:30:07
Doesn't sound good. Shame really. I liked him a lot and he knew how to play the Martinez way.
Gavin Johnson
22 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:26:37
Ian, I think the Jelavic was more like ٥.5M on the proviso Hull stayed in the Prem. I think that's just football mate. The same happened with Yak. He couldn't hit a barn door the last couple of seasons he was with us and we let him go for a nominal fee. Then he regained some of the form that saw him score 20 for us with Blackburn.

Jelavic had become like that with us. He just stopped scoring and didn't look like he'd ever get his shooting boots again. And how many times did he make those off-side runs down the channels. For me, it became very infuriating!

So on paper I think many on here would have taken Kone over Jelavic on paper had it not been for that injury. We don't know how many he'd have scored. So I guess I'm saying, it's all 'what ifs?' It's like the 'back to the future' analogy that John Daley put across so funnily

Sam Hoare
23 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:34:42
Whether bad luck or bad judgement, the jury is still out on Martinez's transfer dealings. Perhaps time will tell either way but at the moment it feels like we have spent a lot of money and yet, McCarthy aside, our best 4 or 5 players (Stones, Coleman, Mirallas, Baines and Naismith) were brought in cheaply by the last manager. Even though he had a few shockers (Krøldrup and Bilyaletdinov noticeably), I can't help feel Moyes may have got more out of 㿨M worth of transfer funds.

John Daley
24 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:33:26
Except he wasn't a replacement for Jelavic. Not unless you work backwards. If it softens the blow, just bear in mind that, in his last 16 months at the club, Jelavic's strike rate was barely any better than Kone's during the same time span, despite only one of them spending all his spare time being carried around in bits strapped to Chewbacca's back.
Gavin Johnson
25 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:47:28
Actually if we were going to talk about like for like replacements. We brought in Kone and sold big Vic for the same money, and to be honest I'd probably still take that deal now even though Kone's totally crocked.
Denis Richardson
26 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:42:08
Ian, think we swapped Anichebe for Kone for the same price.

Looking at it this way, it's been like for like so far!

Brian Wilkinson
27 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:47:51
Clive@15, striker on his last legs. I would be happy to even see Kone on his legs.

I always thought the deal involving Unsworth and Williamson was a little like spotting a girl at 10pm, noted and put in the memory bank, until it gets to 1:50am, beer googles on and it goes from Katie Price to Vincent Price, Vincent being Williamson.

Glen Keeley's worn the Everton shirt more than Kone.

Christopher Wallace
28 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:50:15
Ian 20

Exactly. And why offer new contracts to Barkley and Coleman, if they’re just going to get injured?

Roberto should have just used his ability to see the future to predict the euromillions rollover numbers and revamp the entire squad.

Kone is a hard working player. Think Naismith, with a little less awareness but a lot more pace. He doesn’t score a bucket load but he trails defenders into places that they really don’t want to be, for players like Barkley, Mirallas and Coleman (all crocked) to exploit the space.

Bobby Thomas
29 Posted 07/10/2014 at 22:04:08
Anyone having a go at Kone needs to quite frankly fuck off.

He must be gutted.

And, reading those quotes, heÂ’s fucked.

When we signed him I knew it was dead money because of his age. We got decent money for Vic and Jela (1 or 2 goals in a year?) as they were 27 or under. But I was hoping he would bring pace, depth and added options for the duration of his deal, even though I felt the signing was wrong.

But for it to turn out like this for him is awful. He could well be finished.

John Daley
30 Posted 07/10/2014 at 21:57:47
Sam,

Moyes didn't get more bang for his buck at United did he? 㿇m for Fellaini or 㿈m for Lukaku? Even factoring in the current poor form of our front man, five years from now which do you think will look the wiser deal?

Moyes unearthed some bargains and rejuvenated the careers of players who, for whatever reason, had been written off elsewhere. There's no denying that, but he also bought his fair share of stinkers and quite often it was when he had more than a few quid to spend that he seemed to struggle.

He had 11 years for the good buys to stack up. Look at his earliest signings in his first few transfer windows: Richard Wright, Yobo (loan then permanent deal), Li Tie, Li Tie's mate, Rodrigo, Kevin Kilbane, James McFadden, Nigel Martyn, Francis fucking Jeffers (loan). With the exception of Martyn, none could be termed a complete success.

His signings became less 'miss' over time but a lot of his 'bargains' were brought about precisely because he didn't have more funds. If he did, there's no guarantee he wouldn't have wasted it like he did on players like Bily, Beattie, Kroldrup, Wright etc, or that he would still be snapping up low prices gems.

Pete Gunby
31 Posted 07/10/2014 at 22:21:47
Don't think he's played enough for us to call it a comeback.
Peter Z Jones
32 Posted 07/10/2014 at 22:50:23
That John Daley sure makes a lot of sense.
Sam Hoare
33 Posted 07/10/2014 at 23:00:02
John, Fellaini was a terrible signing for Man Utd obviously but clearly was not Moyes's first, second, third or even fourth pick but a last minute panic by due to his or Woodward's failure to land the top targets. Personally I think the Man Utd board failed him big time in that transfer window.

As for his early Everton buys, you have to remember where we were and the resources we had. Moyes had little money to spend and a team that had languished in the lower reaches. Even then I think the likes of Kilbane, McFadden, Yobo and Martyn in particular did good service for the club and pushed us up the table. The Chinese lads were a sponsorship tie in (good pun?).

I do think transfer buying and team building was one of Moyes stronger points though perhaps he was better at bargain hunting than the marquee signing. Still I feel he may have got more bang for his buck than Martinez seems to have so far. All useless speculation of course.

Kevin Rowlands
34 Posted 08/10/2014 at 00:11:49
I really wanted this lad to prove people wrong and come back and do the business, but, only 70% fit after a full year out? It's not going to happen, is it? I feel bad for him but this one is starting to have the feel of a career-ending injury; I'd be very surprised if it's not at this point.
Paul Dark
36 Posted 08/10/2014 at 02:24:13
As with Alcaraz and Robles, I fear this was an emotional signing by RM. He's well behind our other attacking midfielders/strikers.
Darryl Ritchie
39 Posted 08/10/2014 at 06:28:34
One of Kone’s main weapons, before his injury, was pace. A year on, he’s still feeling pain. Definitely not a good sign! I’ve a feeling that with the knee and Father Time creeping up on him, that if and when we see him in an Everton shirt, he won’t be the as effective as he was with Wigan.

I really hope he proves me wrong.

Ajay Gopal
40 Posted 08/10/2014 at 06:43:17
I feel sorry for Kone. An athlete's career span is limited and he's got to make the most of it – if during this time, you have lose that ability, it can be very frustrating. I wish him well and hopefully, he can make some contribution to Everton Football Club.

For those saying that buying Kone was a mistake given his age, I think it is ridiculous – look at Mourinho going back to Drogba at 36 years or Pellegrini going for Lampard at 35 years, even though these two managers have access to bottomless pots of finance and could possibly buy any youngster worth tens of millions.

For that reason, it makes immense sense that Martinez bought Kone, Alcaraz, Eto'o and Barry at their ages and gave contract extensions to Distin, Osman & Hibbert. Only Distin's performance has dropped dramatically this year, but the jury is out on the others.

Peter Murray
41 Posted 08/10/2014 at 08:50:26
What exactly is wrong with KoneÂ’s knee?
Robert Workman
42 Posted 08/10/2014 at 09:53:29
Every time I go up the escalator at our nearest U-Bahn station, I see the word 'Kone'. It always makes me wonder if I will see him moving again in an Everton shirt.
Phil Walling
43 Posted 08/10/2014 at 10:13:46
If Martinez has already spent 㿨M, the outcome is shite. For confirmation just look at the performances and league table.

I don't think OFM was exactly a genius in this department but he certainly 'got more bang' than this geezer. I can't see BB trusting him with big bucks in the future. Neither should he.

Richie P Jones
44 Posted 08/10/2014 at 10:11:30
He's saying he's only 70% fit, so if I make a guesstimate and we're lucky he might 100% at Christmas / New Year?

He'll then have a period where he has to get over the psychological aspects of his injury as well as the physical ones (he'll be slower), adapt into a team he's never really played for (only watched from the sick bay window) and find match fitness, all at 30 something?

It doesn't look good, but in his favour Lukaku couldn't hit the Main Stand from the Winslow at the moment, so with the congested fixture list coming up he may get his chance.

Clive Rogers
45 Posted 08/10/2014 at 10:33:38
Ajay,

Neither of the two players you mention are first choice at their clubs.

Also there is only one at each club, whereas you mention seven at EFC. Big difference.

Mike Chambers
46 Posted 08/10/2014 at 11:01:06
I hope he comes back and proves all the doubters wrong.
John Zapa
47 Posted 08/10/2014 at 10:31:27
Even if he was fit, I’m not sure how much game time he would get at the moment. He is 3/4th choice at best currently. Better he take his time to come back without risking further injury.

He is another disaster signing from RM which many fans were against from the start due to his age, price and poor career record (except a single half-decent season with Wigan).

Harold Matthews
48 Posted 08/10/2014 at 11:27:45
Darryl. For me it was not so much the pace of Kone. It was his movement. His unexpected movement. His awareness of where other people were moving and fitting in. Martinez has mentioned this on several occasions.

He also stated that the lad has always been the type to play through injuries so the pain must be quite severe. Not good news at all but fingers crossed.

Peter Barnes
49 Posted 08/10/2014 at 11:46:58
Comparing RM with OFM is impossible at this stage due to the very differing situations at the clubs when they both started their tenures and also the short period of time. However, that didn't stop us last season positively for RM and doesn't look like stopping us this time around only with a rather different slant on things due to the current situation.

But let's remember we have been here before with OFM. However, I do have the horrible feeling we "may" have blown a real opportunity this season and I still look back on that pre-season and what appeared to be complete lethargy from the management.

Peter Morris
50 Posted 08/10/2014 at 12:05:34
The references here to him being a 'sicknote' are surely grossly unfair. The lad didn't go out and deliberately get injured and insinuations that he is somehow cheating the club/supporters are just wrong.

All supporters would want the club to show its class and be honourable in terms of respecting players and their contracts. It's only by doing things right will players in general hold the club in such high regard.

I know we paid a lot and I know he is paid more than most of us can dream of but no-one held a gun to the club's head, and in the tragic circumstances of the player's career possibly being curtailed, then insurance will come into play.

It's part and parcel of the risks inherent in the game and is sobering given that some players, unlike Kone, have their careers finished much earlier. I for one wish him well.

Steve Brown
51 Posted 08/10/2014 at 12:42:33
Christopher 28, to summarise your point.... Kone is an injured forward who doesn't score many goals. But he does track back and work hard... when he gets on the pitch. Is that right?

Since he has averaged 5 goals a season over the last seven years, he should be able to contribute 7-8 goals in the remaining 18 months of his contract before he walks out with three years wages.

Tony J Williams
52 Posted 08/10/2014 at 13:07:36
You feel sorry for him Ajay???

This is a man who has probably been paid more in his "gap" year than I will earn the remainder of my working days.

Feel sorry for him? Christ!

It's not his fault he was injured (or is it?, the daft sod ran into the post) but it's a bit rich saying you feel sorry for him.

Harold Matthews
53 Posted 08/10/2014 at 12:20:25
Just watched the Kone interview and feel a little bit more optimistic. For him to be 70% fit suggests that he has been giving his injured knee plenty of work and he's definitely on the way back. May take a while but he's getting there.

Also pleased to hear Naismith mention the lack of concentration because it means we'll be working on it. Players like Mata, Falcao and Di Maria being totally unmarked because defenders are fixated on the ball. This has to be sorted.

An outsider listening to Martinez talking about the form of his squad would think we had no injuries. This has to be admired. For many other managers, their injury list is the chief topic of conversation.

Personally, I have great faith in Martinez and it gets stronger by the minute. We're losing key players every week, are fighting on several fronts with a heavily patched-up squad but he never complains. I'll bet some of this patched-up squad are also carrying injuries.

Of course, the usual suspect, know-all TW hindsight merchants are revelling in the undeserved results but that's life. We all have our opinions. The knockers who didn't want Martinez are between a rock and a hard place. Do they want him to succeed or fail? Not a great spot to occupy if you're a true blue.

Bill Gall
54 Posted 08/10/2014 at 13:47:27
How come a player who says he is only at a 70% fitness level was picked for a place in the Swansea game? Surely this is no encouragement for some of our younger fitter players.
Peter Murray
55 Posted 08/10/2014 at 15:02:27
Harold Mathews (#53):

Spot on. I agree 100% – particularly with regard to Roberto. His clarity, optimism and foresight make him one of the best managers in the Premier League. We are lucky to have him.

In Kone, there is a very good player struggling to get out. He showed his worth in the Wigan 3-0 rout of us in the FA Cup.

My earlier post about his knee was simply about clarification. If the problem is not bone or ligaments, is it muscular? The "muscular fatigue" mentioned last season, apparently a debilitating condition, the recovery from which is a long haul?

Whatever, his determination and courage are to be admired. LetÂ’s hope he comes back soon and proves the doom and gloom merchants wrong.

Tom Magill
56 Posted 08/10/2014 at 15:11:50
Very disappointing about Kone. I thought he would make a decent impact for us when he signed; it’s an opportunity lost.

Also, I feel the pre-season was really poor, including RM at the World Cup for so long, crappy teams we played, and piss poor results.

It all seems connected to not being properly fit and ready to face the new season. Hope we are a lot better prepared at the start of next season.

Tony J Williams
57 Posted 08/10/2014 at 15:57:54
Amen to your last paragraph, Harold.
Al Reddish
58 Posted 08/10/2014 at 16:27:42
Lyndon,

I agree completely and I myself voiced fears about pre-season, only to be told it's just a fitness exercise. Well... some use that turned out to be. Even two weeks ago, Martinez was saying some players had not yet reached full fitness, and the amount of time off given to the World Cup players (especially the ones that went out in the early stages) was ludicrous.

The players should have been at their peak from the minute the first ball was kicked in anger. Instead, they looked (and some still do) two yards off the pace and came off the pitch looking like they were about to have an asthma attack. I believe this is the reason we are picking up so many muscle injuries.

On a side note, it's been suggested Distin has had a falling out with the manager. For all his faults, most of us agree Distin has looked after himself very well over the years and has certainly done a great job holding back the years (I won't sing it!). Just a thought but maybe Distin doesn't agree with some of the methods used in training? And, with Stones now out, we could do with the Frenchman back... or suffer Alcaraz!

Les Fitzpatrick
59 Posted 08/10/2014 at 16:48:40
Cannot feel sorry for a millionaire footballer; however, I wish him well, and hope for a full recovery. We need all hands on deck, to get out of this Martinez mess up.
Christopher Wallace
60 Posted 08/10/2014 at 17:07:53
Steve 51

Pathetic attempt at summarising my points.

Charles Cook
61 Posted 08/10/2014 at 18:19:23
In terms of how he was injured, I'd always thought it was the result of a rarely remarked upon shocker by Tom Huddleston late in the Hull game?
Bill Gall
62 Posted 08/10/2014 at 18:07:28
I'm happy to see Lyndon's comments on the pre-season as I was one of the people who, after commenting about the pre-seasons games and lack of fitness and effort of the players, was told by a number of TW supporters not to worry as the manager knew what he was doing, with one writer suggesting that our players were going to be fitter over the long run.

At the time, after I stated that a poor pre-season may lead to a poor start and more effort should be shown in pre-season games; other comments stated that pre-season games meant nothing. My take on that was results meant nothing but performance meant everything.

At this time, I am starting to agree that the lack of fitness shown by a number of players due to a poor pre-season preparation may be a factor in some of our injuries. The World Cup finished a couple of months ago so there is no reason or excuse to blame it on the level of fitness with some players.

Charles Cook
63 Posted 08/10/2014 at 18:26:26
And so, Phil, they have a poor start – domestically at least – and so Martinez is 'shite'?

You don't rate the guy which is obviously your right, but to jump in at a low point, like somehow it's case proven, is beyond ridiculous

It's been a tough start with few breaks going our way but if you want to see them, there are plenty of glimmers to keep the old chin up. But it's the wanting to see them I guess ...

Christopher Wallace
64 Posted 08/10/2014 at 19:44:20
I think our players’ injuries and fitness are being confused by some. The injuries can be caused by lack of fitness, but this is unlikely in most cases, and impossible to prove.

Too intense a pre-season may cause injuries – who knows?

Did the preparation for the season cause injuries to Barkley, Coleman, McCarthy, Mirallas and Lukaku? Of course, injuries will lead to a lack of fitness. This may be the case with Lukaku. Not so much Pienaar, who is aging, and was never really known for his fitness.

McGeady has been unfit his whole career. Coleman is probably the fittest player in the league. Coleman is injured, McGeady is not.

We’ve finished on top at the end of our last 3 games. Maybe this proves we’re fitter than the opposition. Maybe we are less fit, and save our intensity for the last 10 mins.

Hope this has cleared things up! Lol...

Tony Abrahams
65 Posted 08/10/2014 at 20:29:00
Phil 43, if your sums are correct, Everton, have spent about 㿀 Million since Martinez became manager. We are not playing great at the minute, but is it really that bad, that you have to destroy the manager?

Playing shite, and being shite, are two completely different things and to go on about the league table after seven games doesn't show a lot of common sense to me.

The man must be doing something right though, because not since Wayne Rooney burst on the scene, has Goodison Park witnessed so many sell outs.

Harold Matthews
66 Posted 09/10/2014 at 00:04:22
I'm not a hamstring expert but sitting for long periods on the trips to Russia and Thailand would have a damaging effect. Bad posture, whether sitting or standing, is a well known cause of tightness. In fact, many people suffer because of inactivity. Watching the Telly, playing video games etc. People with lower back problems and a million and one other things. Of course, folks who have suffered in the past are most likely to suffer again.

Martinez is a such a stickler for small details it's hard to imagine him not having expert medical staff in place. The injuries are a mystery but that's the way it goes. Big Sam at West Ham has enough medical staff to fill a small hospital but there he was again last week, moaning about his depleted squad. The same with Van Gaal at Manchester United. Probably the highest paid medical staff in the football world and half the squad on the sick list.

Andy Crooks
67 Posted 09/10/2014 at 01:04:32
Harold, "I'm not a hamstring expert but...." for some reason made me laugh out loud. I totally agree with your post, by the way. At a time when some of us talk spur-of-the-moment nonsense you are a voice of reason.

Gary Edwards
68 Posted 09/10/2014 at 06:46:57
LL (#9)

I made similar remarks about the poor pre-season / lack of prep on GOT and was shot down in flames, in Bobby we believe etc. I was wary of the Martinez's pundit 'duties' during the World Cup (and Confederations Cup the previous summer). Martinez needs to be reminded where his prime responsibilities rest and until he's a proven world beater with EFC forget these extra curricular activities.

As someone who once aspired to be a professional sportsman and to this day constantly maintains that level of fitness, I can't believe how unfit and off the pace so many of the players are. You don't have to be medically qualified to know that a lack of professionalism (players) and / or a lack of professional management by the Club's coaching staff has contributed to the current spate of injuries.

As for Kone I can see him being an insurance write-off, assuming Bill paid the premium.

Phil Walling
69 Posted 09/10/2014 at 08:32:43
Gary, my own experience has shown you do not get too many brownie points on here by questioning Roberto's methods and frequent outpourings.

However, it was Lyndon who first alerted us to the somewhat dubious build-up to the season and there can be little doubt that its deficiencies have greatly contributed to the playing staff going down like flies as the season progresses.

Unless we have some miraculous recoveries and a dramatic improvement in fitness levels, we shall soon be down to the bare bones. And some of the fittest of the bunch will have to up their performance levels, too. The Villa game may well set the pattern for what we can expect to achieve this season. The early skirmishing has finished.

Les Fitzpatrick
70 Posted 09/10/2014 at 09:09:26
Hear, hear, Phil.

I love going to the match to watch my beloved Everton; however, I am not enjoying it much this season, or the back end of last season.

IÂ’m feeling quite anxious for the few days before we play, and havenÂ’t felt like that since the darkest days of the Moyes years.

I always felt that, if we really were in danger of being relegated, Mr Moyes would get us out of it... at the moment, I would NOT have that faith in the current management team.

Brian Harrison
71 Posted 09/10/2014 at 10:24:09
I tend to think with all the medical information that clubs have on players that the recent run of injuries is part and parcel of football. Everton aren't alone in having a spate of injuries I think half the Premier clubs are moaning about injured players. What I think is more worrying was our poor pre-season and this isn't something that people are now picking up on in hindsight many complained at the time at the lack of games that had been arranged.

Every year I have heard managers constantly say how important pre-season training is, yet with our manager preoccupied with the World Cup maybe he took his eye off the ball. Also I think managers need their time away from football, and maybe RM might have done better to take a holiday and forget about football for a couple of weeks. I know Ferguson always went to the South of France when the season finished and he said he needed to re-charge his batteries.

Kevin Rowlands
72 Posted 09/10/2014 at 13:00:20
Phil, if you didn't bring your Martinez bashing into every single thread than maybe people wouldn't jump on you so much, I mean this thread is about Kone's injury update and you use it to have yet another go at RM, why? it's beyond ridiculous at this point.
Brian Hennessy
73 Posted 09/10/2014 at 13:31:19
The quote near the end of this really, really worries me,

"I would say I am at 70 per cent now in terms of the pain I am still feeling — I have got a slight twinge of pain from the injury".

I could understand if he was lacking fitness having been out for so long but if he still has pain in the knee at this stage it's not looking good.

I hope I am wrong but I am beginning to think he will never make a full recovery

Steve Brown
74 Posted 09/10/2014 at 14:26:17
Christopher 60, my pleasure. Thought I did as much justice to your points as they merited.
Jay Harris
75 Posted 09/10/2014 at 17:13:05
Brian #73
somebody at the club told me last season there was a doubt over whether his knee would stand up to playing in the Premiership and it would be assessed in preseason.
If this is true it does question RM's integrity in my mind.
Andy Meighan
76 Posted 11/10/2014 at 08:08:04
I see Danny WilliamsonÂ’s name mentioned on a earlier post and was wondering... Did he play in that derby game when Cadamarteri scored that cracker? IÂ’m sure he did... can someone please enlighten me?
Andy Walker
77 Posted 11/10/2014 at 20:29:13
Seems quite clear he is fooked. Another case of a delusional manager spinning to protect his own reputation. Kone should have been retired as far as EFC is concerned.

Les (#70) – you nailed it. We are so weak now and the risk to our future is massive. The Moyes effect has been eradicated and replaced by the laissez faire attitude of the incumbent (I can't even bring myself to type the incompetent's name).

Brian Wilkinson
78 Posted 13/10/2014 at 08:45:17
Bernie Wright must be having a right good chuckle, wherever he is now, muttering to himself, "Jeez, even I managed to score two goals for Everton."

As one put it, people having a go at Kone can fuck off. We are talking about a ٤ million investment here, if you bought a car for say ٣ grand, lovely looking car, only a couple of previous owners, smooth runner, got it home only to find out it's knackered, would you say "Awww... what a shame"? Or would you be thinking, "I've been swindled, give me my money back", whilst doing an impersonation of Basil Fawlty to the seller.

No-one is laying the blame solely on Kone, but even the Warren Commission would struggle to cover up as much as our club has on the Kone injury.

We've had everything from fasting on Ramadan, taking it easy on a four-week holiday away from pre-season – is it any wonder some of us are just a little frustrated?

Phil Walling
79 Posted 13/10/2014 at 09:47:52
Yes, our Bobby can sure spin a good tale. A bit like Hodgson saying Sterling was too tired to play yesterday.

'Confuscation' I think they call it – they must teach it at Manager' School!


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