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Stones likely out until Christmas

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Defender requires surgery on injured ankle
Everton have been hit by more bad news on the injury front with the disclosure that John Stones has to undergo surgery on the ankle he injured at Old Trafford last Sunday.

The defender faces an estimated 10 to 14 weeks out as he recovers which could deprive Roberto Martinez of his services until the Festive period or beyond.

The 20-year-old rolled the ankle in ugly fashion at the end of the 2-1 defeat to Manchester United and was stretchered off in stoppage time and has been fully diagnosed by a specialist now that the heavy initial swelling has subsided.

It's the latest setback to the Blues' season which began with Ross Barkley tearing a medial knee ligament before a ball had been kicked in anger and Seamus Coleman missing the start of the campaign with a hamstring injury.

Kevin Mirallas's own hamstring injury that he picked up against Liverpool is likely to sideline him for 8 weeks and, in addition to a fresh injury to Coleman, James McCarthy also is nursing a soft tissue complaint.

"John will need surgery, which will give us a perfect recovery for his left ankle," Martinez told We expect him to be out for probably the next 10 to 14 weeks depending on how everything goes.

"It's a clear injury — not a complicated injury. Obviously, it's a little bit of a setback because you don't want to lose any players, but in John's case we were very worried in the moment that it happened because those injuries can become a little bit difficult to treat.

"But this one is going to be straightforward and we are already counting down the days for him to come back and we'll make sure he comes back stronger and ready for the final and most important part of the season."

Sylvain Distin will be back in contention with Antolin Alcaraz for Stones's place when Aston Villa come to town on Saturday week but the England international's injury might also present an opportunity for some of Everton's up-and-coming defenders like Tyias Browning and Brendan Galloway, both of whom are of a similar age and can play in central defence.  

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Tony J Williams
1 Posted 09/10/2014 at 16:35:22
Bloody sick note......
Craig Bellew
2 Posted 09/10/2014 at 16:45:13
May as well call it a day now as between our injuries starting with Ross through to the current lads out I cant see us doing anything this season. RM has to be given money now come Jan 2015 to get another CB in but why this was not addressed during the summer is beyond me. He let 2 CB’s go with no replacement and if he thought Alcaraz was good CB cover then I do fear for what the rest of the season holds. Getting down to the bare bones already and weve only just entered Oct.
Craig Bellew
3 Posted 09/10/2014 at 16:50:35
Who do we have other than Galloway in the reserves that could possibly make the step up. Maybe give Galloway a chance he cant be any worse than what we’ve already witnessed this season surely.
Peter Carpenter
4 Posted 09/10/2014 at 16:58:20
All this and now Oviedo’s got a screw loose as well.
Tony J Williams
5 Posted 09/10/2014 at 16:58:53
Ken Buckley
6 Posted 09/10/2014 at 16:44:25
Stones joins the ever increasing injury list and gives life to the expression ’we go with what we have got’

We are now at the point of manager, staff and players being ready to roll sleaves up and be as one in graft and determination which will ensure the twelfth man will create the bear pit atmosphere and allow every player who gets on to play with the determination and effort of a Straq. with quality.

We are often at our best when up against it so lets start with Villa and make it hard for returning players to get the shirt back.

Allez-Allez O. We are Everton.

James Stewart
7 Posted 09/10/2014 at 17:05:36
Season is fast turning into a fucking disaster. I hope Browning gets a go because going back to a Distin/Jags or Alcaraz partnership will show Martinez really has learnt nothing
Tony J Williams
8 Posted 09/10/2014 at 17:15:44
This is usually the time where a close knit few do really well...... fingers crossed
Joseph Clarke
9 Posted 09/10/2014 at 17:02:43
John Stones cooler than The Fonz
When there is danger, he responds
He could be BarnsleyÂ’s next James Bond
John Stones

When the "big clubs" tempt him
I hope he doesnÂ’t take the bait
With hard work ,and some improvement
He could become one of the all time greats
In the constellation of those that went before
Jimmy Gabriel, Brian Labone
And for England, the impeccable Bobby Moore

When the phone rings John, donÂ’t take that call
With Roberto and a few bob
We can dream of winning it all
Everton is your team
We are The Ones
Like you John Stones we are
Cooler, cooler, cooler
Cooler than the Fonz

Mark Frere
10 Posted 09/10/2014 at 17:21:52
Hopefully Browning will get the chance to play his preferred centre back position in Stones's absence.
Joseph Clarke
11 Posted 09/10/2014 at 17:26:43
We will be okay. Peter Carpenter 4, thank you. Made me laugh out loud.
Ian McDowell
12 Posted 09/10/2014 at 17:57:03
Distin to return. He hasnÂ’t done much wrong this season and is still a Top CB.
Jay Harris
13 Posted 09/10/2014 at 17:56:40
Don't give up the day job, Joseph.

I think a revitalised and focussed Distin will do the job, especially against Villa with their pace.

I have more concerns about Jags who is a confidence player and doesn't seem the same since the England World Cup debacle was blamed on him and Bainesy by the Southern media.

Harold Matthews
15 Posted 09/10/2014 at 18:03:43
Terrible blow but we should be okay with Distin back. Browning is a cracking prospect but is still trying to come to terms with being part of the senior squad. Hibbo has been helping him adjust but he looked a bit lost at Old Trafford. Obviously needs more game time.
Paul Hewitt
16 Posted 09/10/2014 at 18:29:53
YoboÂ’s avalible.
Kunal Desai
17 Posted 09/10/2014 at 19:18:15
This has come back to bite Martinez and the club on the ass. Most of us knew a decent defender needed to come in before or on deadline day and nothing materialised. I expect the goals against column for us this season to be laughable.
Richie P Jones
18 Posted 09/10/2014 at 19:22:30
Kunal Desai - 17

This period is actually a good test of the Martinez style of play.

The whole idea is that if we have possession then the other side canÂ’t hurt us. The midfield and forwards will have to do their part in protecting our fragile back.

Mark Taylor
19 Posted 09/10/2014 at 19:29:04
The home page on ToffeeWeb is quite scary at the moment. There is hardly a single story that isnÂ’t about injuries or fitness worries, that seem to encompass most of our squad, notably:


Meanwhile, both Distin's and GibsonÂ’s full-match fitness is questionable following time out recently.

Is this bad luck or are we doing something wrong?

John Daley
20 Posted 09/10/2014 at 19:37:31
"YoboÂ’s available"

....but his shoelace is undone.

Peter Warren
21 Posted 09/10/2014 at 19:37:48
Disappointed but not concerned in the slightest. I trust Martinez. He deems squad big enough – we’ve only lost:

1. One winger;
2. One number 10;
3. One centre back;
4. One full back;
5. One centre forward (who was injured pretty much all last season);
6. One centre midfielder, who may be back against Villa.

Hardly catastrophic injury list and programme known at the start. ItÂ’s not like weÂ’re having to put square pegs in round holes. ItÂ’s up to manager and team to now recover from shot start and how true form. I have every faith and will back manager and team.

Ian Bennett
22 Posted 09/10/2014 at 19:55:00
I thought heÂ’d have a sprain and be back in a week, so gutted to see this. The only positive is I hope Browning gets his chance.

Really hope our luck changes.

Steve Woods
23 Posted 09/10/2014 at 19:55:11
Good for you, Peter @ 21.

Speaking personally I think that we are in real trouble at the moment and am rapidly losing faith in MartinezÂ’s judgement and approach.

Joseph Foster
24 Posted 09/10/2014 at 21:08:03
We are going to need to build an extension on the physioÂ’s room...
Paul Ferry
25 Posted 09/10/2014 at 21:13:42
DidnÂ’t Yobo sign on the dotted line for Arsenal last month or was that net-talk and rumour only?

I take KunaiÂ’s point - 17 - that at a time when we can ask questions all over the park defence has been the biggest culprit. Jaysus, 16 goals conceded in 7 matches! WeÂ’re on course to top FulhamÂ’s 85 from last season!

The horrible irony here was the defence was beginning to look better over the last couple of weeks precisely because Stones was starting and comb through the live forums was getting more praise than just about anyone else.

And now we are back in the August/September Jags/Distin horror show!

I hope not. Perhaps the web whispering about Distin falling out with the gaffer is indeed true and Distin might remain in the cold.

So, a forgiven Distin? Alcaraz? Browning if Coleman is fit (he does prefer to play in the middle doesnÂ’t he?)? Galloway is too young surely?

Given those four options I would probably lean towards either Tylas or Antolin (I have read what others have said but I thought that Distin was xxxxxxxx appalling in August and September). My hunch for what itÂ’s worth, you know already, it will be Jags and Distin reunited with Peaches and Herb crooning happily in the background.

Hang on, didnÂ’t Besic play in central defence in Hungary (remember the headline, the best central defender in Hungary)? Could Besic probably drop back and fill in the gap in the back?

Whatever happens, I agree with what some others have said. ItÂ’s hardly the gafferÂ’s fault that this situation has developed but he is at fault for not buying a central defender at the end of the last window when the world and his wife could see that we needed one. Instead we got rid of one who, quite frankly, we could have done with right now.

The gaffer has to shoulder some of the blame when there is inadequate cover (in terms of quality) in both centre-defence and between the sticks.

Team v Villa (fingers crossed that nobody else gets crocked and a couple of the current crocked will be ready to return): Howard - Browning - Jags - Alcaraz - Baines - Macca - Besic - Oveido - Coleman - Naismith - Lukaku.

These next six weeks or so, needless to say, will quite possibly make or break this season for us but IÂ’m staying brightly optimistic!

Get well soon John mate!

David Hallwood
26 Posted 09/10/2014 at 21:54:36
Why donÂ’t we ever get 10 day injuries??
Jamie Crowley
27 Posted 09/10/2014 at 21:56:34
HeÂ’ll be out until the beginning of March. The physical therapy on this will be a bitch. Not a doctor or anything, but my son just went through a double tear on his meniscus and these things in my experience (limited albeit) take longer than anyone ever prognosticates.

This... just... sucks...

HeÂ’s been so solid and without him weÂ’ve been poor in the back.

ItÂ’s just getting ludicrous our injury list!

Mike Childs
28 Posted 09/10/2014 at 22:07:21
Our best defensive players, Stones & McCarthy, injuried; our best offensive weapons, Barkley, Mirallas and Coleman injured – it's like the devil came calling for payment on last year’s success.
Paul Ferry
29 Posted 10/10/2014 at 00:14:19
Apologies (25) Â’The gaffer has to shoulder some of the blame when there is inadequate cover (in terms of quality) in both centre-mid and between the sticksÂ’.

I meant central defence not centre-mid, weÂ’ve got enough of them, I think!

Paul Dark
30 Posted 10/10/2014 at 03:07:54
This is going to be a difficult season. Why do we get so many injuries?
Chad Schofield
31 Posted 10/10/2014 at 06:34:58
Paul 25, just the thought of Besic at CB has me uneasy. I like him and want it to work out, but worry he'd make Heitinga look like a composed Buddhist. That said, if the Distin - Jags partnership is reignited, every Evertonian's going to have to learn how to do some pretty advanced calming breathing exercises.

Gutted for Stones. Looked nasty when it happened and, in the long run, having the op will pay off.

James Byrne
32 Posted 10/10/2014 at 07:52:50
Total disaster and a massive blow to add Stones to the injury list. For me, John Stones has become one of the brightest and most consistent players we've had for decades.
Tony Cheek
33 Posted 10/10/2014 at 08:59:14
Is Alcaraz injured?... if not, give him a chance, has he been that bad when played? And Robles... No, I mean it:

Team to play Villa:

Browning, Jagielka, Alcaraz, Baines.
McGeady, Barry, Besic, Naismith, Oviedo

Subs: Lukaku, Barkley, Gibson, Distin, Hibbert!

Eddie Dunn
34 Posted 10/10/2014 at 10:54:53
Players should be picked on form, not reputation, and if they have had a spell on the sidelines, and waited for their chance, then they should be given a chance. Alcaraz or Distin should be put back in; otherwise, why are they on the books? Also, if Robles isn't up to it, then why employ him?

For me, it isn't the individuals who are suddenly poor players, it is what they are being asked to do. Jags and Distin are wooden players and not suited to playing it out from the back. Last night it was painful to watch Jags receive and distribute the ball. He looked so uncomfortable, he really does need Barry to come over and take it off him.

However, we all know how solid him and Distin have been for ages, and I don't agree for one second with some of the posts on TW that attribute Distin's recent mistakes on his advancing years. It was only last season that I heard commentators expressing their admiration for his pace, as he out-muscled many a fleet-footed youngster!

Something is rotten in the state of Denmark, and the well-oiled publicity machine of Martinez is trying to hide it.

Linda Morrison
35 Posted 10/10/2014 at 12:11:38
I think Eddie may have a point about something being rotten but not sure what it is.

Maybe Roberto can't adapt to changing circumstances... I do not know – but we'll start winning, with the Villa, and move up – you'll see!

Eddie Dunn
36 Posted 10/10/2014 at 13:36:39
Linda, I hope I'm wrong, but the Distin situation is perplexing. Was he dropped or was he injured, and why go back to France?

Also, Tim Howard has not only had a few lapses in concentration, but also some temper tantrums, and could have got into hot water with his antics.

Perhaps it's just frustration.

I'm sure a win would help everyone, and the sight of our wounded returning should also give us a boost.

Tommy Coleman
37 Posted 10/10/2014 at 14:01:42
This is Martinez's fault. He hasn't learnt from his Wigan days in how to teach defenders to land on their feet after trying to head a ball.

In fact, we'd have no injuries at all if it wasn't for Wigan.

Dave Lynch
38 Posted 10/10/2014 at 14:12:29
Just heard on CityTalk that Martinez has said Barkley may feature at the weekend?

Desperation or he is super human?

Tony J Williams
39 Posted 10/10/2014 at 15:17:34
No Dave, he said he is going to a feature movie at the weekend, as he is unable to train for a few weeks.

That and we aren't playing until a week Saturday

Dave Lynch
40 Posted 10/10/2014 at 15:20:34
Did mean to say next weekend, the report deffo said Villa game.
Tony J Williams
41 Posted 10/10/2014 at 15:29:30
Got that Dave, I am just trying to be funny to stop myself crying..
Zahir Jaffer
42 Posted 10/10/2014 at 18:00:05
I don't know if it's just me or if it's clearly obvious that our players haven't had any jumping or heading exercises. The pitches in the Premier League are a bed of tulips compared to the lower divisions. Yet Stones suffers an unforeseeable injury. Was it really that surprising though? All our players seem uncomfortable when jumping, right from Tim to Lukaku, with the exception of Naismith and Mirallas.

Martinez needs to add that dimension back into our squad. If not, he needs to make sure we're unplayable no matter how predictable we are,

Michael Upton
44 Posted 10/10/2014 at 20:59:49
Sorry, folks, don't know where to post this but for those of us feeling a little depressed about how things are going right now, you can make yourself feel all warm and fuzzy on the BBC website.

Today's selection in their 50 Great FA Cup Goals series is none other than Sheedy's Retake.
Happy days indeed - a pudding of a Goodison pitch, some vintage hairstyles and one of Sheeds' greatest moments.

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