The Blues went down 3-0 to a depleted Saints team that had lost five on the bounce, ensuring that the club will be sitting in the bottom half of the table over Christmas and prompting public comment from a couple of players.
"We're really frustrated at the moment and I'm sure it was frustrating for the fans who had to travel a hell of a long way," Jagielka said after the drubbing at the St Mary's. "I'm disappointed for them and I want to apologise to them.
"Nobody goes out there to under-perform, but unfortunately as a team we just weren't anywhere near the levels we needed to be at."
Like his manager, Roberto Maritnez, Jagielka still believes that the Blues' top-four hopes remain alive providing they can go on a run of good form. Everton are 10 points off fourth place heading into the Festive programme.
"I think most things are still achievable," he continued. "Things have been made a lot harder by not picking up as many points as we would have liked to but we just need to go on a run.
"The longer we leave it without going on a run the gaps between us and fourth and fifth will get bigger and bigger.
"But hopefully we can get on that run and close the gap between us and the top four. There's massive pressure. We've underperformed so of course there is.
Naismith, the club's most recent player to sign on to an extended contract, echoed his skipper's sentiments and says that the players are looking ahead to the Stoke clash to begin their road to redemption.
"It's definitely a feeling of disappointment at the moment," Naismith told evertontv. "[Saturday was] just one of those days. We've got very experienced players throughout the team and normally we are pretty solid at the back.
"We are normally the ones causing problems for other teams but it wasn't to be [...]"
"Fortunately for us the games are going to come thick and fast now. We've got the chance to rectify it in less than a week which is good.
"Then after that we have two more games in the space of a week so we will definitely be ready for Stoke on Boxing Day where hopefully we can change the result from Saturday and push on."
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1 Posted 23/12/2014 at 17:58:22
2 Posted 23/12/2014 at 18:17:52
It would be interesting to hear some of our main playersÂ real thoughts on the problems this season.
3 Posted 23/12/2014 at 18:15:57
Ya think? Alternatively the gap between fourth and fifth from bottom is getting smaller.
4 Posted 23/12/2014 at 18:41:08
5 Posted 23/12/2014 at 18:57:54
The midfield has been constantly disrupted by injuries and suspensions this season so they can be excused to an extent. The attack has seen Nessie and Mirallas miss large parts of the season and Lukaku has had to play injured (big toe).
So in a crux, itÂs the defence and GK plus the managers tactics and team selections who are killing us. Tighten up the defence and we might have a chance.
6 Posted 23/12/2014 at 18:59:25
40 years of supporting Everton have taught me that we are usually in the crest of a slump.
Mind-numbing banality with occasional flickers of desperate hope.
7 Posted 23/12/2014 at 19:05:18
I donÂt know about anyone else but IÂd be pretty disappointed with anything less than 7 points from these next three matches.
We have been poor this season and if we are only winning one of three matches against Stoke, Hull and Newcastle then we have got problems..we may not even win one yet, but that doesnÂt bear thinking about.
Stop the talk or if you must talk please ensure that results follow not just more questions than answers or more hard luck stories.
8 Posted 23/12/2014 at 19:13:07
Delusion reigns supreme.
10 Posted 23/12/2014 at 19:16:17
11 Posted 23/12/2014 at 19:28:09
I donÂt even think itÂs a question of how many points behind 4th we are at present but more that plain simple truth is we are nowhere near good enough to even challenge the top 4 .
We will at best this season win 12 or 13 matches (alot will depend on how we do in the next 3 over the festive period)
12 Posted 23/12/2014 at 19:39:25
13 Posted 23/12/2014 at 19:40:31
14 Posted 23/12/2014 at 19:41:21
Its less likely now, the form were in.
Boxing Day we are going to have to score a few goals against Stoke because they will surely score with Crouch and gang banging about in our box waiting for the crosses.
16 Posted 23/12/2014 at 20:12:09
We played the best football IÂd seen in years last season when there were no expectations; hopefully the lads can turn things around and give us something to celebrate for a change!
17 Posted 23/12/2014 at 20:25:16
WeÂve got to get well clear away from the drop before the next Europa League games against Young Boys... we donÂt need the pressures of that on top.
Everton are known for being the Dogs of War in football when it really matters. They are due a good run at some point; letÂs all hope they find their big steal brass balls, get it together, and bring back the performances they put in last season that got them into Europe Â– and that got them known as a force to be reckoned with.
Personally, I think that Everton are going to need to win the Europa League trophy to get Champions League next season. IT CAN BE DONE!!! All the while they are still in it, the dream is still alive.
18 Posted 23/12/2014 at 21:41:43
Top 6 is currently looking like a mirage in the desert, all Everton officials and players should stop making fools of themselves and stop talking about top 4.
Time to just say Âone game at a timeÂ.
19 Posted 23/12/2014 at 21:55:14
Our style of play has been well documented on numerous occasions on other threads so lets not go down that road. They obviously canÂt say, yes weÂve been shite, but please if theyÂre going to make quotes, say something sensible for GodÂs sake.
20 Posted 23/12/2014 at 21:46:58
Evertonians are passionate about their club! This club is part of our DNA! And I am sick to feck like many others of having so many shit days and false hopes!
Looking at our players, I feel thereÂs a small group that really would die for the cause. (Not enough though) Football, and footballers have changed over the years. The days of players caring about their club like the supporters do has long gone. On Saturday nights/ SundayÂs when our great club has fecking lost "AGAIN" all us feckers are totally deflated all weekend. Those twats just forget about it and move on to the next game.
So when Jags/ Nais come out with all the leadership bollocks! It makes my stomach turn! All it is to try and pacify
Us and they just forget about it!... And move on to next training session smiling, joking! And fecking about during the session( spoilt pricks)
The only time, I will feel they care when they show it, (body language) when stepping over the white line for our "MASSIVE" club. The only players at present, that I feel showÂs that desire/ passion and winning mentality is Besic/ Macka and these lads only just arrived at the club! For feckÂs sake, show us you care and fight for our amazing football club!( It means so much to us)
21 Posted 23/12/2014 at 21:59:10
This time last season it was plaudits from everyone (particularly Everton fans) about the breathtaking new possession/passing style and players being allowed to express themselves.
Things donÂt just change overnight.
Every team,over a 10 month season,will go through bad patches for whatever reason.
It is not unrealistic to be still targeting a top 4 finish.Only Chelsea and possibly Man.C.look out of reach.We are at least as good as any other team in there.3 or 4 good results on the trot will change everything.
And we can start that on Boxing Day.
22 Posted 23/12/2014 at 23:10:46
There is only one thing worse than being considered the dirtiest team in the Premier League? Being considered the most timid. Managers assess their yellow card statistics and crave mid-table disrespectability. Too high and youÂre undermining your chances of victory through lack of discipline, but too low and youÂre letting the cynical opponents bully you.
Everton, with just 161 fouls conceded this season, have gone from Âdogs of warÂ to pacifist kittens according to the figures. Liverpool are not too far behind with just 173 fouls, but for a genuine transformation look no further than Chelsea. Jose MourinhoÂs side has also committed just 173 violations on their way to the top of the league, and are nowhere to be seen at the top of bookings and red card table.
Jose truly has built a side of angels. Maybe heÂll spend the next six months working on their cynical edge in order to protect his lead at the top of the Premier League
Says it all really.
(Opta stats from an article in the Telegraph by the way.)
23 Posted 23/12/2014 at 23:08:35
You make a great point about the passion needing to be there first and foremost.
Any team can have all the talent in the world but even sublimely talented players cannot become greats or legends with having that sheer passion for the game.
That was a point I made about whatÂs holding the likes of Romelu Lukaku back.
We know the man has done ability and we know he has a proven decent to good goals record but for me he is lacking in that raw burning desire to make himself the type of striker that a Diego Costa is or Wayne Rooney was at the age of 17.
You look at every great player over the years right up to today, they all have that hunger, that burning will to succeed, to put there bodies on the line.
Its a vital ingredient that is missing from this current Everton team, at least this season.
24 Posted 23/12/2014 at 23:47:28
25 Posted 24/12/2014 at 00:40:55
26 Posted 24/12/2014 at 01:03:48
Oh to have a team full of scouse Evertonians who would die for the shirt.
27 Posted 24/12/2014 at 01:04:58
These rules define us all in competitive sport! Been in football all my life and the one rule that always stands out to any successful team IÂve been involved with!! You have to earn the right to win football games, and unfortunately this season we have failed in all aspects of this vital ingredient.
28 Posted 24/12/2014 at 03:51:22
I think Nais and Jags are very media-friendly types who get rolled out to talk this drivel. Do your talking on the field, lads.
30 Posted 24/12/2014 at 04:31:16
31 Posted 24/12/2014 at 06:21:22
32 Posted 24/12/2014 at 07:03:25
35 Posted 24/12/2014 at 12:14:01
36 Posted 24/12/2014 at 12:48:23
37 Posted 24/12/2014 at 14:35:10
From what I've been told there is no funds for January. So Roberto, had better get his thinking cap on, who his loan deals are going to be. I am at a loss, who he could bring in to fit in with his slow build up style of play. I mean he hasn't at anytime said that the football he as introduced is not working. So the odds are he will stay with it and persevere.
I said at the beginning of the season that we would finish 10th and I still feel we will. The problem is I can't see us pushing on next season under Roberto, I've never rated him and can't see that changing, especially with what I've had to endure to date but I said I'd give him 3 seasons and 3 he as.
It looks like Dafoe, is back in English football. Now he is a striker I've always loved and would love to see him in an Everton shirt.
38 Posted 24/12/2014 at 16:24:09
39 Posted 24/12/2014 at 17:03:48
I'm right with you in agreement about Jermain Defoe.
Always a striker that I have rated highly and I have been amazed why more clubs including ourselves never made more effort over the last 10-12 year's to bring him in.
The only thing I imagine is that he's very much a Southern boy, never played outside the South, been at West Ham, Spurs, Pompy and Bournemouth, that is the only explaination as to why no clubs such as us, Liverpool, Man United have pursued his signature.
He's the wrong side of 30 now but I'd bet my bottom dollar he'd still do a more than good job for a Premier League club on a short term basis.
40 Posted 24/12/2014 at 17:21:16
41 Posted 24/12/2014 at 17:28:55
42 Posted 24/12/2014 at 17:54:07
He also tells me Jags and a member of the coaching staff had been at each other all week prior to the game and this also came to a head after the game.....
2 more bits of gossip straight from the training ground, no way will there be a contract extension offered to Distin and don't be surprised if we don't ever see Oviedo in the 1st team again....
43 Posted 24/12/2014 at 18:08:55
44 Posted 24/12/2014 at 18:32:11
45 Posted 24/12/2014 at 18:29:08
46 Posted 24/12/2014 at 18:43:33
Frankly I’m tired of hearing talk in the press. It’s happened for years and it’s just page fillers...Nothing has been shown by these players thus far.
47 Posted 24/12/2014 at 18:58:09
IÂm trying to remain positive as two wins in a row takes us to 27 points at the half-way stage. A better 2nd half of the season could see us get 35 points and 62 points in total!! 4th? 5th? Throw in the Europa League and FA Cup and there could be a lot of Âegg on the faceÂ come May!
I live in hope!! [Should have stayed off the Stella this Christmas Eve!!]
Happy Christmas, Blues.
48 Posted 24/12/2014 at 19:02:22
It's like watching the living dead !
Mind you its quite right the players get a bollocking but I want to know who is giving Martinez a bollocking ?
That arsehole picks and sets up the team and dictates the tactics and in my opinion is 99% the reason we are so shite this season.
49 Posted 24/12/2014 at 19:08:16
50 Posted 24/12/2014 at 19:24:28
The man is no longer worthy of our time and debate. I will leave him to you to dissect .
51 Posted 24/12/2014 at 19:17:33
52 Posted 24/12/2014 at 19:59:51
53 Posted 24/12/2014 at 20:00:40
54 Posted 24/12/2014 at 20:05:42
55 Posted 24/12/2014 at 21:05:14
This game is being strangled at every turn by the banal utterances, the incompetence and the smug satisfactions of those "within the game" and those who feed off it, and whose lavish salaries and life style give them a sense of their importance way beyond any relationship to reality. The paucity of any incisive, challenging journalism, especially at the local level is beyond belief and makes them particularly complicit in this football establishment "merry-go-round" of the "haves". Sorry for the rant but I am heartily sick of this patronising of the "common man/woman" by people in this so-called "industry" who continue to get away with, if not murder, then vacuous unchallenged drivel. While we can often disagree with each other on this site would ALL perspectives here be invalid? Would some at least not be worthy of being addressed to club spokespersons at all levels-including manager, chairman players etc? by ANY self-respecting journalist? Then perhaps this "task" of facing an audience could then be a more demanding and onerous one and not the nonesense that passes these days for a "press conference" or this charade of Everton tv? Get back to Finch Farm gentlemen and sort it and is there any sports journalism of integrity left out there?
56 Posted 24/12/2014 at 22:10:57
57 Posted 24/12/2014 at 22:02:58
From what I hear, itÂs more attitude/personality clash related Â– he plays/trains with the Under-21s and Martinez just doesnÂt see him in the 1st team plans. DonÂt be surprised if he moves on in January Â– heÂs not a happy camper!!
58 Posted 24/12/2014 at 22:13:18
Everton, oh where is our Everton?
59 Posted 24/12/2014 at 22:30:52
We are 11th, not great, not what we hoped would be happening, but who at the start of the season thought we would be challenging top 4 again needs to get real, with our extra Europa matches and the injuries that would likely cause.
The bookies who show no bias had us to finish in 7th at the end of this season, yes were 11th and not playing well but were not 20th as youÂd think from reading most of the posts.
What did our previous manager win for us in 11 years? Nowt Â– thatÂs what, and he was lauded by the media and Ferguson as some kind of genius! Well Martinez could revert to playing the way that Moyes did and win exactly nowt again for another 11 years... take your pick, is that what you want?
The players managed to challenge the fancy clubs (who get 10-12pts + start each season with the favoured refs decisions IMO) last season when playing under Martinez instructions, so whoÂs to blame, its the players who are taking to the field to perform.
Look next door, Suarez leaves and Sturridge is out injured, they were the reason Liverpool were demolishing most teams last season, not because Rodgers was manager. If Martinez could go out and buy 𧴜M worth of players in January, I think itÂs a extremely good bet weÂd improve, because itÂs the lack of quality of some of the playing staff that is the real problem.
60 Posted 24/12/2014 at 23:23:37
Then again what do you expect from the ÂcaptainÂ who reportedly laughed when Lukaku said that the squad could get top 4. Mind you the chairman also said he didnÂt believe Martinez when he said we could get top 4. I sometimes think the fans are the only true ÂEvertonÂ thing left and that the current board, manager, and players are operating entirely out of whack with what we expect and therefore get confused when discontent starts coming from the terraces.
When you think we were one of the pioneers of English football and deservedly held ourselves to ideas such as nil satis and the School of Science, the current setup is as far removed as you could imagine from what Everton should be.... and in that respect Jagielka is the perfect club captain. An overly comfortable lark-about schoolboy who is too busy joking around to achieve anything of note and is quite happy languishing in 7th and fobbing the fans off with a load of rubbish. He should have been stripped of the captaincy the moment he laughed at LukakuÂs prediction. I wouldnÂt follow him onto the pitch never mind into battle, mind you thereÂs barely any in the current team you would follow anywhere.
Contrast that with some of the past players in inferior teams Cahill, Ferguson, Carsley etc. Technically inferior perhaps but at least they had a bit of passion about them. Besic is perhaps the only one in the team with one shred of emotion about him, the rest just look like beige wallpaper at times when theyÂre playing, a team of school prefects following their wuss of a captain trying not to cause too much trouble getting busy apologising to everyone.
I hope theyÂre all at each otherÂs throats at Finch Farm because a massive scrap is long overdue at this club. ItÂs embarassing when you hear stories about a 37-year-old centreback whoÂs been first choice his entire career here getting the hump about being dropped despite the fact he was stinking the place out week after week - thatÂs absolutely pathetic. Can you imagine that at any other top club? Wenger doesnÂt indulge over 30s with more than a 1-year deal yet Distin thinks he should be automatic first choice every week.
I booed at Goodison the other night against QPR and I would do it again until something changes in this cosy Âslaps on the backÂ boys club. Everton have historically been at their best when under pressure when the big characters come to the fore and bring out a bit of the old Corinthian spirit but there is none of that in this team so I would boo them again.
At least at times under Moyes in the early days I felt we were a limited team but we were giving everything, never stopping running, concentration for 90 minutes, defensive basics, set-piece basics, and physical aggression. You had characters right through the team and we overachieved no doubt about it. Towards the end of his reign these sort of completely listless apathetic performances from more talented players started to creep in...
Now, we have a situation where we have our most talented squad since the 80s without doubt but not one leader amongst them and the performances are some of the worst in my memory. That is why there is frustration, that is why people booed Â– and if even 1% of that discontent has permeated into the training ground and Finch Farm isnÂt its usual Telly Tubby play land Â– then thanks be to god for that.
63 Posted 26/12/2014 at 03:24:10
64 Posted 26/12/2014 at 09:41:07
65 Posted 26/12/2014 at 13:05:46
We are 11th not 20th, its not what we hoped for and we are not clicking as a team, but he's an intelligent guy he will adapt.
The team will never be challenging for top 4 when we have Jags and Distin at the back, he's kept faith with them, but there just not up to it.
They need replacing and we also desperately need a top quality link man in the middle that can take a game by the scruff of the neck.
This + the a lack of movement from many of the forward players is why the build up is slow.
That's going to take serious money, which whoever is Everton's manager has to come to terms with, if he had a spare 㿞m-㿷m to spend next month I'm sure we would be much more fluent.
66 Posted 26/12/2014 at 13:45:58
67 Posted 26/12/2014 at 20:50:20
I'm one of the most guilty as I pushed to extend his contract half way through last year now all I can say is, boy, was I ever fooled.
It's not even the stubborn tactics as much as the "he who makes the highest salary must start" tactic.
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