Martinez rejects accusations that Everton have gone 'soft'

I donÂ’t want him to leave/get bulleted, but just shut up for a while. Do your talking on the pitch. That goes for the players too.

I also think hooliganism is reemerging as a force of vitriolic hatred directed against coaches. Irvine, Taylor, Pardew etc have been put through hell. I hope we donÂ’t treat Martinez the same way. Criticize him? Yes. Boo when appropriate? Yes. But avoid the hateful abuse.

If you know yer history.... !

When Guardiola took over Barca it was the first thing he sorted out.

1. Martinez must have rocks in his head to say we played fantastic in a lot of games lately

2. Please drop Barry he is a liability, Besic is miles better

3. We are soft, full stop

4. Robles is useless, everytime he plays we lose, heÂ’s a jinx

5. I hope we get Gerry back and sign Chantome and Ruddy

6. I wish Martinez would say it as it is, it makes him look a knob otherwise. At least Moyes did!

So, Bobby what ARE the reasons for our crap performances?

.....and well said Kieran Kinsella #5

Let’s get a win at Hull today (three defeats will have pissed everyone off and that will drive them!!!) - and get 2015 off to a bright start......

COYB.

The difference between us and Arsenal is that they have far better players than us, at least going forward, hence why they always finish above us and are regulars in the Champions League.
They have the pace and intricacy, technically gifted players that sadlywe are lacking.

Secondly we don’t defend well as a team, defending as a team means high pressing up the pitch that begins with the forward/s.
Guardiola made Barcelona the envy of Europe not just through the wonderful talents his team showed with the ball but the rabid hunger and workrate to win back possession when they lost it.

Finally I agree that I don’t want to see Martinez sacked or leave, at least not get, I don’t feel it’s the answer one bit.
He needs at least another good transfer window and at least the end of this season, and see how it goes half way through next term.

What he does need to do though is realise that he needs to have more than one way of playing.
I admire his principles but when it’s not working sometimes you need to ask yourself why?

We need to play productive football that gets back to winning matches.
At the minute we are good at the back and we are not really good in attack either.
The team needs a backbone to start winning matches and get back to the basics that Everton are, or atleast were once good at.

As for Bobby - if we had played anywhere near our capabilities in the first eight games or even our previous eight games then those final eight games of the season may have provided an interesting and possibly enjoyable end to the last third of the season. It is the here and now that counts for most supporters and if there is no sign of improvement today or in the next few weeks we won’t be looking forward to any of the games in the last third of the season.

Happy New Year to everyone let’s hope 2015 proves to be a little kinder to Everton FC than last year was.

He really said all those things didn’t he?

I’d suggest he watches the games a bit more attentively but that appears to be what he does for 90 minutes. He’s sure as shit not pondering tactical or player changes.

Sorry but the bloke’s goose is cooked. It would take an incredible turnaround for him to build trust and faith again.

I agree with most of what you say, to be honest I’m down about Everton this season it’s the most frustrating season I have seen from an Everton side for year’s and the football has been mind numbing at times but I just feel to sack Martinez right now would not help matters.

Martinez has frustrated mr this season with his stubbornness and reluctance to have a variety of ways to play and I do feel he’s gone down Moyes road of playing square pegs in round holes, examples like Eto’o and Barkley out wide.

I think he shouldn’t be given a little more time, I understand and would be in total agreement that if our form has worsened or stayed the same in another two months then maybe action needs taking.

Lets not forget the players also need to start standing up and I suppose it comes back to this mental toughness, and a lack of strong characters in the dressing room debate again doesn’t it?
Where are the self motivator’s?
The men to gee up the lads and give a fucking good war cry?

I think everyone from Martinez, to his coaching staff right through to the players all need to share the blame for this season.

RM talks about enjoyment – but its easy when we’re winning,and everyone wants the ball then. When the chips are down, THAT’S when you need bottle to effect the game and bust a gut to get on the ball... too many hide and wait for someone else to do the right thing.

Huge game today – hope Kevin Brock is playing!
COYB

Thing about Roberto isn’t just the words, it’s the ideology that frustrates. He has a ready-made (i.e. pre-fabricated) answer for real questions - which I personally think is dangerous. It makes him like a politician. Scary ... .

On a specific note: Howard, Jags, Hibbo and Ossie are not leaders. Absurd as it sounds, Besic would be our best captain at the moment, in my view. At very least, his place would be guaranteed.

I predict 1-1 today - but hope we can win somehow.

Happy New Year!

COYB!

Still, long-term he could yet build a great dynasty, but going down is an unacceptable price for it. I think the media attacks are good; they will create some togetherness and a slight siege mentality which will help RM’s (less-than-outstanding) man-management skills.

Please Mr Martinez - top 4? Please take your delusional b/s elsewhere - I for one can’t stand any more of your myopic utterances.

His lack of general lack of concerned for the importance of defending is however shocking.
Thing like being two galas up and to keep pressing rather than consolidating is truly daft - even a Sunday league manager would accommodate that switch.

Fact is we’ve been shit since April and something is obviously wrong. We can’t just keep doing the same and hoping it will suddenly change.

Also interesting to see no mention of Distin in the senior players he listed...

There are many rumours that Martinez and Distin don’t get on all that well.
Who knows if they are just rumours or not but it’s something that has cropped up many times, usually there’s no smoke without fire.

If Martinez can make the best use of this transfer window and bring in a good goalie, a pacy right winger who can deliver a final ball and a strong centre half I’d have good reason to think we could turn our season around and finish the season well, only time will tell!

We love you Everton FC , we really do, but to those players I say, don’t give us anything less that your total commitment and maximum effort.Our motto ? Nil Satis Nisi Optimum.

Start again clean, swallow your pride and change the football, it’s not been working this season. Also with the window open get rid of any ’rotten eggs’ in the camp and bring back some spirit and unity within the side.

We no longer have the luxury of studying the aesthetics of the game - we need points. If only we could find a way to win a few, we would look a whole lot tougher !

Interviewer: so Roberto, a 3 nil defeat to palace must have you worrying now

Cretinez: yes, the players responded marvellously and with fantastic technical ability to turn the game around to win 4-3

Interviewer: errrm but Roberto you lost 3-0 at home to palace to leave you in the bottom three

Cretinez: no I think you will find it was a fantastic and outstanding technical performance to leave us with a great chance of getting to the champions league final

I’ve heard enough of our our club and players being downplayed under Moyes.

Tough times for us all... let’s see how we come out of it, together.

Best wishes to ALL Blues – Wishing you a Happy Blue Year.

Gary: loved your pastiche, quite crude but funny in its absurdity. It reminded me of Don Quixote, that great early modern Spanish example of self-delusional ideology.

I just hope we can start climbing the table, anything other than relegation.

We are changing our official website address to:
www.soft-as-shite.com

There is only one thing worse than being considered the dirtiest team in the Premier League…. being considered the most timid. Managers assess their yellow card statistics and crave mid-table disrespectability. Too high and you’re undermining your chances of victory through lack of discipline, but too low and you’re letting the cynical opponents bully you. Everton, with just 161 fouls conceded this season, have gone from ‘dogs of war’ to pacifist kittens according to the figures.

So what IS the reason that we can't defend??