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Baines: Qatar trip is a chance to reset

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Leighton Baines hopes that Everton's players can use the team's forthcoming warm-weather training camp as an opportunity to "take a step back" and look at where things have gone so wrong this season.

Roberto Martinez will use the gap in the fixture list created by the Blues' early exit from the FA Cup to take his charges to the Middle East, a trip that Baines hopes will be beneficial in getting the spirit back in the team following a run of just one win in 13 matches in call competitions.

"It is a chance to go away and take a bit of time to take a step back and look at where we are going wrong, the fullback said. "We have to because we are going wrong at the minute.

But this will give us more time together to try and put things right. It gives us the chance to put more work in and cover some more points that we need to go over and address.

Hopefully we can get more spirit back amongst the lads and keep everyone together. It is difficult at the moment. We have to stay together and look after each other.

Hopefully this trip can be beneficial in all those ways.  


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Kunal Desai
1 Posted 20/01/2015 at 20:26:10
Warm weather training camp, all funded by the club as well. They donÂ’t derserve these luxuries. They should be forced to do some kind of assault/commando trekking course over Ben Nevis in the fucking snow!!
Guy Hastings
2 Posted 20/01/2015 at 20:31:31
Archie Knox to meet them at the airport, baseball bat at the ready. Â’See those dunes, lads...Â’
Eugene Kearney
3 Posted 20/01/2015 at 20:30:28
Big step back needed indeed. I am usually an optimist and for the last 18 months or so have put my faith in Roberto. Even Alex Ferguson took a few years to get it right.
Our last season was a big improvement on the previous one(s).....
Now things are getting worrying - where did all the magic go?

I hope they find it in the Middle East sun........quickly.

Kieran Riding
4 Posted 20/01/2015 at 20:39:40
" hopefully get more spirit back "

Thought everything was rosy ?

Peter Laing
5 Posted 20/01/2015 at 20:39:40
Rewarded for abject failure, although it will be dressed up as an opportunity to regenerate aching muscles and bones, team building etc, oh the life of a premier league footballer / Manager !
Kevin Johnson
6 Posted 20/01/2015 at 20:38:00
Dubai... great. You play shite and get rewarded on a luxury holiday ! Wish I had a job where youÂ’re rewarded for under-performing :(
Keith Meakin
7 Posted 20/01/2015 at 20:42:02
Qatar!!!! Better off spending their time going down to the local Tip and getting rid of some Rubbish.
Colin Glassar
8 Posted 20/01/2015 at 20:44:07
I thought they were going to Dubai? Ffs, have we messed up the reservations as well?
Robin Cannon
9 Posted 20/01/2015 at 20:56:56
Might get overlooked with all the on field crises, but I actually think itÂ’s pretty sad that weÂ’re going to Qatar, with all their human rights issues. Especially just a week after a really great article in the Telegraph about how much we care as a club about the wider community.
Ant Summers
10 Posted 20/01/2015 at 20:54:15
This is wrong for so many reasons. No doubt selfies by the pool will be knocking around...

The shite just equalised, these two teams tonight playing will batter us,, Depressing.

Colin Glassar
11 Posted 20/01/2015 at 21:04:10
Yeah but loads of trillionaires out there Robin. Who knows? Billy boy might just get his wish granted.
Jim Bennings
12 Posted 20/01/2015 at 21:10:25
I think I will do a really poor job at work over the next 6 months and then, if I'm still in the job when the 6 months is up, I will ask my boss if I can take a "warm weather break to recharge the batteries"

A fucking disgrace.!

So we will pissfart around in the hot sun and then come back to a freezing cold culture shock in South London at a rocking Selhurst Park, in time to lose and blame the "re-adjustment to the climate" for another dog-ends show.

I'm really sick of Everton FC.

As far as I'm concerned failure to beat Palace and then another Merseyside Derby loss should see Martinez out the door, don't even wait for the demolition at Stamford Bridge.

Bill Gall
13 Posted 20/01/2015 at 21:09:22
Comment from Martinez. the area is phenomenal with magnificent scenery phenomenal people are going to welcome us and the only thing we cant do is train as it is to hot. This is a phenomenal chance for the squad to have some bonding time.
Eddie Dunn
14 Posted 20/01/2015 at 21:43:50
It's a really good moment to go there now, at this moment, as it will help the group, and this will reinforce the phenomenal strength and spirit of this really special group of young, talented, and older passionate, experienced men.

This has come at an incredible moment for us to then recharge our strength together, as a football club , and as a group of individuals and as a group.

James Stewart
15 Posted 20/01/2015 at 21:53:32
What a waste of money.
Peter Bell
16 Posted 20/01/2015 at 21:59:30
Last time Everton were taken on a bonding exercise, Keown ended up working out on Sheedy.
Tony Hill
17 Posted 20/01/2015 at 22:00:28
As Kieran (4) points out, Baines is conceding with these words that there is indeed internal division. He is hoping that everyone can be kept together. We must all hope the same because it is a fair assumption that RM will remain in post and we aren't going to bring anyone in during the rest of the transfer window.

Our only hope then is that team spirit can be retrieved in Qatar despite the evidence of last night. I'm not optimistic but it is indeed our only hope in my view. A divided team will be relegated.

John Malone
18 Posted 20/01/2015 at 21:55:58
I can remember a few seasons with Moyes were we had shite first half of seasons then come good, fingers crossed the right signings are made to lift the dressing room and we see the benefits!
Peter Laing
19 Posted 20/01/2015 at 23:03:49
I've read over the past few weeks about internal divisions, about the possibility of bad apples in the camp, strained relationships etc etc. Might I be way off the mark in suggesting that there are two camps - those from the UK who are native English speaking and those from overseas ?
Bobby Thomas
20 Posted 20/01/2015 at 23:21:21
We are doing a passable impression of West Ham when they went down with Di Canio, Defoe and the rest. Glenn Roeder was gaffer I think.

They were easily good enough to finish in the top half. We are sinking towards massive danger.

How long this has to go on before we bullet him is anyones guess. We are atrocious and have been for months. I would love to see him pull through it, but have gone beyond believing he can.

When you think about this season from the get go it is verging on mis-management and it is getting to the point of no return. The only time I thought we were snapping out of it was when he shuffled his squad well during 7 games in roughly 21 days early this season.

Where do you draw the line? I’ve had no expectation of us winning for weeks.

Personally I think its made for Joe till the end of the season. He would have us organised and defending properly in a few training sessions and would get service to Lukaku.

Vitally, he is also a very good man manager who would be a tonic to and unite what is now a problem dressing room.

I personally believe we are headed for the bottom three and something needs to be done.

Paul Kelly
21 Posted 20/01/2015 at 23:54:38
Club is a disgrace. The only thing I hope is that they ship out BobÂ’s personal belongings and get the new gafferÂ’s in while heÂ’s away.

Wishful thinking hey.

Jamie Sweet
22 Posted 20/01/2015 at 23:59:26
While you're there Leighton, take some time to learn this helpful phrase:

"Fuck off Kev, I take the penalties".

Or in French in case he no understand:

"Fuck off Kev, je takie le penalties".

Harold Matthews
23 Posted 21/01/2015 at 02:27:08
Hope it works better than the last time.
Darryl Ritchie
24 Posted 21/01/2015 at 03:03:22
This is going to be 50% training session and 50% group therapy session. Do whatever it takes. Getting the squad out of the pressure cooker in Liverpool, is a good move.

Just get it fixed.

Joe Doakes
25 Posted 21/01/2015 at 03:43:37
Probably a forerunner of these luxurious bonding jollies, a bunch of us polished the fire engines in Hatton Garden then cleaned the council stables in Edgehill.
Helen Mallon
26 Posted 21/01/2015 at 05:36:32
I think they should have been taken to some army assault course and beasted till their manicured hands and feet bled. Piss-poor man management by Everton again.
Jermaine Jennings
27 Posted 21/01/2015 at 07:25:00
Warm weather training when playing in the winter just doesn’t work. When we play Palace, we will need the Dogs of War attitude – when returning from a break like that, it just breeds lethargic complacency.
Eddie Dunn
28 Posted 21/01/2015 at 08:21:12
Mollycoddled
Jim Bennings
30 Posted 21/01/2015 at 09:17:48
There's still a lot of talk about the Baines/Mirallas penalty incident.

Here's food for thought.

Baines missed at Old Trafford with a poor poor kick and then very nearly missed at Sunderland with a equally poor attempt.
Then he took a rather average kick in the shootout last week, he has also missed in a League Cup match against Chelsea in 2011 and in in the FA Cup shootout at Stamford Bridge that same year.

Yes he's the usual penalty taker with a good record in general but if he'd took the one on Monday and missed, everyone would have destroyed him for taking another no doubt.

You can't win!

Jim Bennings
31 Posted 21/01/2015 at 09:17:48
There's still a lot of talk about the Baines/Mirallas penalty incident.

Here's food for thought.

Baines missed at Old Trafford with a poor poor kick and then very nearly missed at Sunderland with a equally poor attempt.
Then he took a rather average kick in the shootout last week, he has also missed in a League Cup match against Chelsea in 2011 and in in the FA Cup shootout at Stamford Bridge that same year.

Yes he's the usual penalty taker with a good record in general but if he'd took the one on Monday and missed, everyone would have destroyed him for taking another no doubt.

You can't win!

Harold Matthews
32 Posted 21/01/2015 at 09:56:00
Yes Jim, heard you the first time.......but he didn't take one and he didn't miss.
James Joseph
33 Posted 21/01/2015 at 10:01:19
Does anyone know how we usually get on after one of these mid-season sunshine breaks? I've got vague memories of us usually losing but only one definitely comes to mind, in the late 70s when Gordon Lee took the lads to Jersey prior to a cup tie at Middlesbrough. Strangely, Middlesbrough were also there - Craig Johnston nearly drowned while swimming off the coast, what a missed opportunity that was - and it seemed to do them more good as they raced into a 3-0 lead before Mick Lyons inspired a late comeback and it finished 3-2.

On a serious note I think the break has cone at a good time for us, no matter where they go. I'm sure there have been dressing room rows. Actually, given the run of results, I'm glad there has been. The last thing you want is players who couldn't care less just shrugging their shoulders and going home to play computer games in their mansions. This break gives Martinez the opportunity to make sure that they are all pulling in the same direction; whether it's the right direction is another matter.

James Hughes
34 Posted 21/01/2015 at 10:29:57
Hopefully Bill will be arrested for being a heretic out there and an oil-rich Billionaire develops a love for Everton and Merseyside in general.
Harold Matthews
35 Posted 21/01/2015 at 10:31:32
They went on warm weather training last year James and couldn't put one leg in front of the other when they got back.
Ian Burns
36 Posted 21/01/2015 at 10:36:40
I hope RM misses the fecking flight back due to him organising his hotel for his World Cup stint with ESPN in 2020
Andrew Ellams
37 Posted 21/01/2015 at 10:42:49
Harold, I would like to think that this one would be used for sharing some home truths and banging heads together but I fear that we have neither a manager nor captain that is capable of that.
Denis Richardson
38 Posted 21/01/2015 at 11:06:03
Shouldn't the manager be staying in the country to sort out transfers before the window shuts instead of swanning off to the sun?

We may not have much cash available but surely with Eto going we have some wages available for a loan or two. With Osman and Pienaar out indefinitely, Gisbon unreliable, Mcgeady poor, Atsu not being played/not good enough we are chronically short of midfielders, even taking into account McCarthy's return.

McGeady, Mirallas and Barkley are the ONLY fit attacking midfielders we have in the whole senior squad. Barkley needs a rest and McGeady should not be a regular starter. Even pushing Oviedo into AML does not give us adequate cover.

There are loads of midfielders in the prem sitting on benches catching splinters - bring someone in to give us cover and provide some much needed competition. I can't believe that with 10 days left in the window we're not even tyring to loan someone in.

Tony Abrahams
39 Posted 21/01/2015 at 11:41:42
Finally some honesty from one of the squad. Read it whatever way we want, but why has team spirit dissolved so quickly?

I think away from the public domain the manager is going to get slaughtered and told to get his shit together pronto, by the senior pros. Whether he is capable is another matter but, if he doesnÂ’t, IÂ’m sure Palace will be his last game in charge of Everton.

Tony J Williams
40 Posted 21/01/2015 at 12:05:35
So Jim, you are seemingly defending Mirallas by having a slight go at Baines for only just scoring his last two penalties? Strange

Mirallas and his big fucking head is to blame for Monday, no-one else.

Roger Helm
41 Posted 21/01/2015 at 12:44:39
The best thing is I will get a break from football for ten days. No Match of the Day, no nothing. I will forget all about Everton, and only start to get depressed and anxious when they are flying back.

A fellow TWer (sorry can't remember who) earlier got on at 50/1 against us being relegated. This morning I could only find 28/1. The bookies generally know what's going on.

BTW Tony, Mirallas is not the only one to blame. The whole team who didn't manage a serious shot on goal for 90 minutes against a shit side bear some responsibilty as well, as does a manager who couldn't ... (stop it - I'm on holiday from Everton!)

Barb Ellis
42 Posted 21/01/2015 at 13:27:43
I hope the break helps. It will also be a welcome break for this Evertonian as my stomach has been in knots for weeks.
Neil Pickering
43 Posted 21/01/2015 at 14:02:25
Ooooh that sounds lovely! Maybe, if you can be arsed, Mr Martinez, you could give the lads some semblance of a pre-season whilst your away?

You know, seeing as you did fuck all with them in the last one, like!

Phil Walling
44 Posted 21/01/2015 at 14:07:57
Dennis, he'll probably pop up on the TV channels as a pundit as a break from bonding. Ours or Al Jazeera's!
Gerard Carey
45 Posted 21/01/2015 at 14:01:55
Awe the poor little pets, they need a break, hope they don't get their poor little tootsies burned on the hot sand!!!!. So no new arrivals, next game on the 31 Jan, last day of the transfer window. Typical Martinez that. He should be at Finch Farm doing his best to get in fresh faces instead of fannying off. Then again thats what he did last summer.
Dave Abrahams
46 Posted 21/01/2015 at 14:21:07
Roger (41) Roger I believe they are as low as8/1 with one bookie, your'e not going to have a bet on them are you?
Andrew Ellams
47 Posted 21/01/2015 at 14:29:57
Gerard, transfer deadline is 2nd February, not that I thnk it will make too much difference to us
Gerard Carey
48 Posted 21/01/2015 at 14:33:23
Andrew, thanks, but like you said probably make no difference. Sad really.
Harold Matthews
49 Posted 21/01/2015 at 14:55:08
He says we'll strengthen from within.

The Capital Cup was scary last night. 2 sides playing possession football at three times the speed of our boys. Martinez has a lot of work to do.

Norman Merrill
50 Posted 21/01/2015 at 15:33:02
I can't see them doing much training out there, with the heat, so it must be a jolly! For being Crap!

While most fans have to put up with everyday problems, with a bonus of paying to watch them under-perform, week-in & week-out.

Roger Helm
51 Posted 21/01/2015 at 16:02:29
No Dave (46) I think it is unsporting to bet on failure, which is why I don't like laying odds. But it would have been a nice compensation if the worst happened.
Andy Kavanagh
52 Posted 21/01/2015 at 15:51:27
Not arsed what they do between now and the Palace game as long as it results in 3 points.

This is a car crash of a season. If Martinez stays, he MUST adapt and implement either a change to our rigid Plan A, or a fallback Plan B.

Andy Meighan
53 Posted 21/01/2015 at 16:05:58
What a life! We haven't won a game in what seems like eons and they're getting taken to the Middle East on a jolly up! Warm-weather training, my arse... coming back from there to an ice cold Selhurst Park in early February against a rejuvenated Crystal Palace — they'll fucking piss themselves.

It'll be the usual 20 mins of dross... Puncheon or Gayle will rattle and we all know the outcome after that. Why should these failures be rewarded with a holiday after what theyve served up to us long-suffering fuckers???

I hope Kenwright has a pair of bollocks because he's going to need them in the next couple of weeks... or else. Well, you know... don't you!

Allan Board
54 Posted 21/01/2015 at 16:36:05
Ah, a chance "to step back" and take stock. Wise words indeed, Leighton. However, should this "step back" occur anywhere near your luxury pool – and given how fucking uncoordinated you lot have been this season – you will fall in!!!

You couldn't make it up, could you?

Harold Matthews
55 Posted 21/01/2015 at 17:29:12
Baines also said that we lacked the quality to break the Baggies down. Obviously not too impressed with the standard of several team-mates who showed skills below Division 2 level.
Simon Howett
56 Posted 21/01/2015 at 18:15:02
It's a shambles from pre-season to this break. Whole club is becoming a laughing stock. Only done 3 games this season. Swansea home- they didn' play the way RM wanted them to. Diddy dum dum. Lille at home was better. And Southampton with the no sub debacle.

From BK down it's a joke, ripped off for Lukaku, No leaders on the pitch, Baines needs to find a set of nuts. Jags hardly inspirational captain material.

We are heading for a relegation pantomime with a manager playing slow Spanish second division football. Those Zaragoza roots are hard to let go.

The whole squad is unbalanced, unmotivated, too many players over the hill, or collecting wages from their sick beds. And the Roberto spin continueses, this time with Atsu who is going to be some sort of saviour when he comes back from Africa. He's going to Derby mate. Another stupid heads gone comment.

We pass like our theme tune but to a slow Z cars pattern, then back again and repeat I for one am not spending 150£ round trip from Cornwall to watch what is being served up. 1- win in 13 and not scoring in 7 of those.

They will come back from Qatar (nice human right abusers, great marketing that)with some team bonding chat, nice tans and then they will get to a hostile Selhurst Park before getting new holes ripped by the RS who are finding form and a Mourinho Chelsea who will do us on the counter again and again as we lose it in transition.

I have never seen a side in such complete freefall and denial. Stones words echoing that. The other teams apart from Villa are up for this relegation battle, We could easily lose our next 3 then what ??

I have no idea whether BK will sack Roberto. He has a new thespian luvvie, so I doubt it. The whole thing stinks and every Evertonian is worried sick

As for leaders just give the armband to Besic, our newest signing and the only one who looks like has some balls. He plays like the only Evertonian on the pitch at the moment. But that won't happen, he couldn't even get 90 mins against WBA despite being our best player.

The spin will just continue.

I remember Wigan going to Arsenal needing a result to stay up. They went 1-0 up and Roberto continued with his "philosophy" instead of shutting up shop. They lost 4-1. Relegated. And this is a man has shown he makes the same mistakes again and again.

Sean Kelly
57 Posted 21/01/2015 at 18:48:58
IÂ’m really happy for them. It could be fun playing week in week out and getting slagged off. Think of the torture of running around after a ball and picking up a five figure was every week yes EVERY FUCKING WEEK. Their stress levels must be off the radar. Every week I also get a five figure wad but that fucking decimal point is stuck in the middle. My boss has gladly told me I can have two weeks off on August but I want three (going to Canada ) and he gladly obliged and told me to take three or more if I want but "donÂ’t come back if you do".

These are pampered money grabbing mercenaries that donÂ’t give a shite. They will still be paid full wedge and even if we dropped to the championship those that stay would still be getting their full wedge. Is it any wonder they donÂ’t give a shite about our current predicament. I ask the question would you or I be any different?

There are some on here like me looking for billy to get rid of Martinez but we know it wonÂ’t or canÂ’t happen. He doesnÂ’t have a rex to pay any compensation. Indeed he doesnÂ’t have the money to find a new manager that will want to put his style on things. It he only way it can happen is to get rid of some senior players on big wages to free up some money. If that happens we will be replacing them with cheap alternatives.
By sticking with Martinez or going the alternative route we are in for a rocky ride for the next few seasons. The only hope is that Billy is looking 24/7 for investors. Now thatÂ’s reassuring.

Steve Woods
58 Posted 21/01/2015 at 19:10:39
Simon (56) a cracking post that IMO. It certainly encapsulates my fears about RM and my increasing deep concerns about the club at the moment. Apart from the obvious final day escapes, I have never been more concerned about our top rank status in 50 years. My gut feelings are telling me things I really don't wish to hear!
Jim Hardin
59 Posted 21/01/2015 at 20:51:12
Qatar? Send them to wherever Sterling went for his two weeks off, please!
Brian Keenan
60 Posted 21/01/2015 at 22:18:36
I think Qatar would be kind to the Everton Team? As Cystal Palace will be a hard game also. I hope Everton can relax and play when they come back.

We should have won on Monday. IÂ’ve never seen a one-side match in my life. Everton are playing on the edge off the 18-yard box. I know that they said they would play more direct in going forward. However, I feel they would be better stop talking and just shot when in the box.

The Everton Forward line should have enough class to score? Why not train at Goodison until the net becomes more friendly?

Victor Jones
61 Posted 22/01/2015 at 02:31:09
Warm weather training and bonding. I hope it works out better than their little break last winter. I would need to check on that, but I think they won only one game and lost three after that. Although they then went on a little winning run. But some of those wins were close. But wins nonetheless.

What this old Evertonian would have preferred to have seen would have been for Everton to be playing Bristol City and to have at long last a win to celebrate. Now that would be team bonding. But alas, not to be. Our resident genius getting outsmarted and out manoeuvred by Big Sam. FFS Sam Alardyce.... give me bloody strength.

Brian Wilkinson
63 Posted 24/01/2015 at 00:51:24
Nothing like a bonding session, Sheeds and Keown as extras for Rocky, Beagrie as Evil Kenevils stunt double and a manager heading for the lead role in one flew over the cuckoos nest.

Morellas reinacting Brian Glover in the film Kes, I,ll take it, move away lad, I will take the penalty.

Breaking news Martinez lost the tiebreaker in the team quiz on music, he was stumped and insists, erm never heard of plan b but hey we had 75 per cent possision of the deck chairs.

Kieran Riding
64 Posted 24/01/2015 at 01:35:19
http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/Roberto-Martinez-hails-qatar-facilities-8507355

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