Baines: Qatar trip is a chance to reset

I hope they find it in the Middle East sun........quickly.

Thought everything was rosy ?

The shite just equalised, these two teams tonight playing will batter us,, Depressing.

A fucking disgrace.!

So we will pissfart around in the hot sun and then come back to a freezing cold culture shock in South London at a rocking Selhurst Park, in time to lose and blame the "re-adjustment to the climate" for another dog-ends show.

I'm really sick of Everton FC.

As far as I'm concerned failure to beat Palace and then another Merseyside Derby loss should see Martinez out the door, don't even wait for the demolition at Stamford Bridge.

This has come at an incredible moment for us to then recharge our strength together, as a football club , and as a group of individuals and as a group.

Our only hope then is that team spirit can be retrieved in Qatar despite the evidence of last night. I'm not optimistic but it is indeed our only hope in my view. A divided team will be relegated.

They were easily good enough to finish in the top half. We are sinking towards massive danger.

How long this has to go on before we bullet him is anyones guess. We are atrocious and have been for months. I would love to see him pull through it, but have gone beyond believing he can.

When you think about this season from the get go it is verging on mis-management and it is getting to the point of no return. The only time I thought we were snapping out of it was when he shuffled his squad well during 7 games in roughly 21 days early this season.

Where do you draw the line? I’ve had no expectation of us winning for weeks.

Personally I think its made for Joe till the end of the season. He would have us organised and defending properly in a few training sessions and would get service to Lukaku.

Vitally, he is also a very good man manager who would be a tonic to and unite what is now a problem dressing room.

I personally believe we are headed for the bottom three and something needs to be done.

Wishful thinking hey.

"Fuck off Kev, I take the penalties".

Or in French in case he no understand:

"Fuck off Kev, je takie le penalties".

Just get it fixed.

Here's food for thought.

Baines missed at Old Trafford with a poor poor kick and then very nearly missed at Sunderland with a equally poor attempt.
Then he took a rather average kick in the shootout last week, he has also missed in a League Cup match against Chelsea in 2011 and in in the FA Cup shootout at Stamford Bridge that same year.

Yes he's the usual penalty taker with a good record in general but if he'd took the one on Monday and missed, everyone would have destroyed him for taking another no doubt.

You can't win!

Here's food for thought.

Baines missed at Old Trafford with a poor poor kick and then very nearly missed at Sunderland with a equally poor attempt.
Then he took a rather average kick in the shootout last week, he has also missed in a League Cup match against Chelsea in 2011 and in in the FA Cup shootout at Stamford Bridge that same year.

Yes he's the usual penalty taker with a good record in general but if he'd took the one on Monday and missed, everyone would have destroyed him for taking another no doubt.

You can't win!

On a serious note I think the break has cone at a good time for us, no matter where they go. I'm sure there have been dressing room rows. Actually, given the run of results, I'm glad there has been. The last thing you want is players who couldn't care less just shrugging their shoulders and going home to play computer games in their mansions. This break gives Martinez the opportunity to make sure that they are all pulling in the same direction; whether it's the right direction is another matter.

We may not have much cash available but surely with Eto going we have some wages available for a loan or two. With Osman and Pienaar out indefinitely, Gisbon unreliable, Mcgeady poor, Atsu not being played/not good enough we are chronically short of midfielders, even taking into account McCarthy's return.

McGeady, Mirallas and Barkley are the ONLY fit attacking midfielders we have in the whole senior squad. Barkley needs a rest and McGeady should not be a regular starter. Even pushing Oviedo into AML does not give us adequate cover.

There are loads of midfielders in the prem sitting on benches catching splinters - bring someone in to give us cover and provide some much needed competition. I can't believe that with 10 days left in the window we're not even tyring to loan someone in.

I think away from the public domain the manager is going to get slaughtered and told to get his shit together pronto, by the senior pros. Whether he is capable is another matter but, if he doesnÂ’t, IÂ’m sure Palace will be his last game in charge of Everton.

Mirallas and his big fucking head is to blame for Monday, no-one else.

A fellow TWer (sorry can't remember who) earlier got on at 50/1 against us being relegated. This morning I could only find 28/1. The bookies generally know what's going on.

BTW Tony, Mirallas is not the only one to blame. The whole team who didn't manage a serious shot on goal for 90 minutes against a shit side bear some responsibilty as well, as does a manager who couldn't ... (stop it - I'm on holiday from Everton!)

You know, seeing as you did fuck all with them in the last one, like!

The Capital Cup was scary last night. 2 sides playing possession football at three times the speed of our boys. Martinez has a lot of work to do.

While most fans have to put up with everyday problems, with a bonus of paying to watch them under-perform, week-in & week-out.

This is a car crash of a season. If Martinez stays, he MUST adapt and implement either a change to our rigid Plan A, or a fallback Plan B.

It'll be the usual 20 mins of dross... Puncheon or Gayle will rattle and we all know the outcome after that. Why should these failures be rewarded with a holiday after what theyve served up to us long-suffering fuckers???

I hope Kenwright has a pair of bollocks because he's going to need them in the next couple of weeks... or else. Well, you know... don't you!

You couldn't make it up, could you?

We are heading for a relegation pantomime with a manager playing slow Spanish second division football. Those Zaragoza roots are hard to let go.

The whole squad is unbalanced, unmotivated, too many players over the hill, or collecting wages from their sick beds. And the Roberto spin continueses, this time with Atsu who is going to be some sort of saviour when he comes back from Africa. He's going to Derby mate. Another stupid heads gone comment.

We pass like our theme tune but to a slow Z cars pattern, then back again and repeat I for one am not spending 150£ round trip from Cornwall to watch what is being served up. 1- win in 13 and not scoring in 7 of those.

They will come back from Qatar (nice human right abusers, great marketing that)with some team bonding chat, nice tans and then they will get to a hostile Selhurst Park before getting new holes ripped by the RS who are finding form and a Mourinho Chelsea who will do us on the counter again and again as we lose it in transition.

I have never seen a side in such complete freefall and denial. Stones words echoing that. The other teams apart from Villa are up for this relegation battle, We could easily lose our next 3 then what ??

I have no idea whether BK will sack Roberto. He has a new thespian luvvie, so I doubt it. The whole thing stinks and every Evertonian is worried sick

As for leaders just give the armband to Besic, our newest signing and the only one who looks like has some balls. He plays like the only Evertonian on the pitch at the moment. But that won't happen, he couldn't even get 90 mins against WBA despite being our best player.

The spin will just continue.

I remember Wigan going to Arsenal needing a result to stay up. They went 1-0 up and Roberto continued with his "philosophy" instead of shutting up shop. They lost 4-1. Relegated. And this is a man has shown he makes the same mistakes again and again.

These are pampered money grabbing mercenaries that donÂ’t give a shite. They will still be paid full wedge and even if we dropped to the championship those that stay would still be getting their full wedge. Is it any wonder they donÂ’t give a shite about our current predicament. I ask the question would you or I be any different?

There are some on here like me looking for billy to get rid of Martinez but we know it wonÂ’t or canÂ’t happen. He doesnÂ’t have a rex to pay any compensation. Indeed he doesnÂ’t have the money to find a new manager that will want to put his style on things. It he only way it can happen is to get rid of some senior players on big wages to free up some money. If that happens we will be replacing them with cheap alternatives.
By sticking with Martinez or going the alternative route we are in for a rocky ride for the next few seasons. The only hope is that Billy is looking 24/7 for investors. Now thatÂ’s reassuring.

We should have won on Monday. IÂ’ve never seen a one-side match in my life. Everton are playing on the edge off the 18-yard box. I know that they said they would play more direct in going forward. However, I feel they would be better stop talking and just shot when in the box.

The Everton Forward line should have enough class to score? Why not train at Goodison until the net becomes more friendly?

What this old Evertonian would have preferred to have seen would have been for Everton to be playing Bristol City and to have at long last a win to celebrate. Now that would be team bonding. But alas, not to be. Our resident genius getting outsmarted and out manoeuvred by Big Sam. FFS Sam Alardyce.... give me bloody strength.

Morellas reinacting Brian Glover in the film Kes, I,ll take it, move away lad, I will take the penalty.

Breaking news Martinez lost the tiebreaker in the team quiz on music, he was stumped and insists, erm never heard of plan b but hey we had 75 per cent possision of the deck chairs.