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Eto'o completes Sampdoria move

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Paperwork now done after striker passes medical

Updated Samuel Eto'o's switch to Sampdoria is finally official now that his registration has been transferred after the veteran striker completed a medical.

Everton announced that the transfer was completed on Tuesday, bringing an end to Eto'o's brief stay on Merseyside after paperwork had delayed the finalisation of the move by an extra day.

The deal — initially held up by the Everton's delay in acquiescing to his departure and Roberto Martinez's insistence that the club would take the final two weeks of the transfer window to weigh up "what is best for Everton and for Samuel" — appeared to be done on Saturday when Sampdoria released a photograph of Eto'o in the team's colours along with a statement that he had agreed terms. The deal is believed to be for 3 years, wages of 1m per season and the option of becoming a director of the Genoa club when he hangs up his boots.

Eto'o's medical was actually undertaken on Sunday, however, and he tweeted a photo after the formality was complete with the message, "Ready for a new challenge!"

The Cameroonian's mind appears to have been made up for some time, however and, after 12 starts for the Blues and four goals since arriving as a free agent he leaves just six months into a planned two-year stay at Goodison.

He has not featured for the Blues in recent weeks amid rumours echoing similar problems reported by previous managers that he was at the centre of apparent dressing room disharmony during the worst of the team's recent slump.

Continued reports from Sky Italia that Everton will receive performance-related bonuses in lieu of a nominal transfer fee have not been confirmed.

Martinez wished the 33 year-old well once the transfer was ratified, saying: "We thank Samuel for his efforts and for bringing his know-how to the team and to Finch Farm where he passed on some of his terrific experience to all of the young players in particular.

"The memory of his performances in Europe stand out especially. On behalf of all Evertonians, we wish him well for the next chapter in his career."

Eto'o, meanwhile, sent a goodbye message of his own via Instagram:

Dear Toffees, I've been blessed to spend these past few months with you. To my pleasure, I have discovered here a crowd of warm, passionate, affectionate and supportive fans...

"It's time for me to leave, but wherever I go, I will bring with me all the memories we've built together."


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Nick Entwistle
1 Posted 23/01/2015 at 17:00:43
So long Gazola. You were here for a time. And then left. A true Evertonian in the Lucas Neil mould.
Mark Andersson
2 Posted 23/01/2015 at 17:09:42
Oh at last some news, not good but hay this is the season of no good will. Actually it is good because this shows Martinez and the board up to being liars.

NEXT UP another loss then off to the big boys for a spanking. I do not believe for one moment that the vast majority of fans are behind this set up.

Terence Tipler
3 Posted 23/01/2015 at 17:14:13
The Wigan manager said today that 3 Premier League clubs are wanting to sign Callum McManaman. Just wondering, are we going to go more Wiganesque...?
Paul Smith
4 Posted 23/01/2015 at 17:21:44
On the contrary Mark. According to a poll undertaken by that qualitative/quantitative data collecting giant - GOT. RM has the support of 62 pc of respondents. IÂ’m quite shocked by that. Hope this EtoÂ’o stuff is cleared up soon as well. Not arsed either way.
Lyndon Lloyd
5 Posted 23/01/2015 at 17:24:57
Mark (2), I donÂ’t think anyone at Everton have lied on this occasion, theyÂ’ve been on a hiding to nothing with EtoÂ’o and his agent doing all the pushing to get him away and into a new club.

Martinez either had to dig his heels in and keep an unhappy (and disruptive?) player until the summer at least or at least give the impression that EFC had a say in this, which it doesnÂ’t look like they did.

EtoÂ’oÂ’s mind was made up and I get the feeling he is used to getting what he wants.

Steve Carse
6 Posted 23/01/2015 at 17:27:31
Paul, I think the GOT Â’readershipÂ’ is of a quite different profile to TWÂ’s. Which is more truly reflective of the overall Everton support I wouldnÂ’t like to say. But judging by posts on both sites, the anti-RM camp is far bigger on TW.
Kieran Riding
8 Posted 23/01/2015 at 17:35:00
GOTÂ’s best source of info is no longer on their site. In fact he recently called that site " full of jarg ITKs, who donÂ’t even go the game ! "

Still, I hope this deal concludes soon.

Mark Andersson
9 Posted 23/01/2015 at 17:32:26
Lyndon thatÂ’s not good news either way, but thanks for the update.

As a real I was bon a blue, IÂ’m really worried of this real threat of relegation. Our season has gone from bad to worse. We have become a embarrassment.

I like many others where taken in by our current manager. But sadly the fact is he is repeating his philosophy of WIGAN

James Stewart
10 Posted 23/01/2015 at 17:48:08
Something doesnÂ’t sit right about this. If itÂ’s EtoÂ’o pushing for a move fine, but I find that unlikely. More likely is we are trying to get out of giving him another year contract which we would be obligated to do once he hits 15 games.

On the playing side he still has something to offer. He won us the game at Burnley on his own and we donÂ’t have anyone to replace him.

Our bench is atrocious and relying on Kone is not an option. This season canÂ’t end soon enough. What if Lukaku gets injured?

Keith Harrison
11 Posted 23/01/2015 at 18:09:23
Worry not. Bill is with the boys warm-weather training, and looking for oil-rich investment 24/7.

So far he has held meetings with 5 deck chair attendants and a camel trainer.

Hope springs eternal.

Kelvin Thomas
12 Posted 23/01/2015 at 18:16:52
EtoÂ’o gone, so whoÂ’s coming in?
Lyndon Lloyd
14 Posted 23/01/2015 at 18:24:41
James (10), you may be right. It could that Everton are stalling because they can get a better deal from another club whereas EtoÂ’o is bent on returning to Italy.

IÂ’m just going by the impression I get that EtoÂ’oÂ’s people have been moving aggressively while Everton have been peddling the wait-and-see line. Roberto may have his reasons for doing that but if the two parties are both set on going their separate ways, I imagine player power will win out as to where he ends up.

Brian Harrison
16 Posted 23/01/2015 at 18:46:05
Well wherever he lands up, it seems if the reports are correct that he will be earning nothing like the money we are paying him. Which raises the question why did we pay him so much, obviously it doesnt look like there are clubs queuing to sign him even on greatly reduced wages. Then there was the business of Traore when he first got injured RM said that if it looked like he wouldnt play before the end of the season he would cut short his loan period. Well Traore never kicked another ball but stayed on the books till the end of his loan spell.
Then we sign Atsu on a season long loan deal at however much a week he is getting yet how many games has he started. Now you could well argue that he isnÂ’t good enough to play in the first team well again why bring him on loan.
Frank Crewe
18 Posted 23/01/2015 at 18:45:05
@James Stewart.

So we would have had to add on another year to the year he still had to go? Incredible.

It appears RM is following the Lawrie McMenemy book of footie management. Fill your squad with relics and theyÂ’ll manage themselves. Wonder if Le Tissier wants to make a comeback?

Mark Tanton
19 Posted 23/01/2015 at 19:12:25
The EtoÂ’o situation reflects badly on MartinezÂ’:s judgement in my opinion. What a waste of time and money. Mind you the three points at Burnley might keep us up I guess.
Stu Smith
20 Posted 23/01/2015 at 19:16:35
Will we get a transfer fee out of this?
Colin Glassar
21 Posted 23/01/2015 at 19:22:30
DoesnÂ’t look like Stu. Some money for each game played by the sound of it.
Joseph Clarke
22 Posted 23/01/2015 at 19:20:17
Change of subject. Just watching Graham Sharp, on Bay tv talking about the West Brom game. No criticism of the manager , no criticism of the players, or tactics .Graham Sharps only criticism was the Everton supporters .Unbelievable !
Barry Thompson
23 Posted 23/01/2015 at 19:34:17
Joseph, what do you expect from Club poodle
Clive Rogers
24 Posted 23/01/2015 at 19:33:45
Brian #16,

There are people in the first team who are not good enough for the first team.

Lenny Kingman
25 Posted 23/01/2015 at 19:46:40
So, another ex big name with overflowing bank account has soon got tired of a club with no potential for success, amid a dreary Merseyside backdrop, and headed off for more exciting locales.

He must be laughing his skinny arse off at the gullibility of a once great football club.

John Zapa
26 Posted 23/01/2015 at 20:19:51
With him leaving, it must mean that someone new must be joining? DidnÂ’t Martinez say Atsu will be coming back soon? It will almost be like a new signing!
Conn Prosser
27 Posted 23/01/2015 at 20:30:48
WhatÂ’s going to happen to the Etojeans deal?
Gerry Morrison
28 Posted 23/01/2015 at 20:40:26
I heard from somebody close to the deal the reason for the delay. It seems that EtoÂ’o was all set to sign on the dotted line, but that Mirallas stepped in and stole the pen.
Kieran Riding
29 Posted 23/01/2015 at 21:01:30
Gerry, I hope Mirallas hasnÂ’t stolen anything as he will get his hands chopped off out in Qatar.
James Stewart
30 Posted 23/01/2015 at 21:08:11
Lyndon (14) you could equally be right. EtoÂ’o may well want out but that does seem a little odd considering itÂ’s not even been six months. More likely we donÂ’t want to pay another year as itÂ’s my understanding that, once he hit 15 games, that triggered the extension.

My concern is that an already underweight squad will be even lighter still. We are in desperate need of a fresh face or two yet once again it will be the opposite in reality.

Perhaps we could throw Martinez into the deal.... Then IÂ’d be all for it!

Andy Walker
31 Posted 23/01/2015 at 21:19:12
Can he take Relegation Roberto with him please.
Kunal Desai
32 Posted 23/01/2015 at 21:27:47
We wonÂ’t get anyone in. EtoÂ’o was only brought in because KoneÂ’s layoff was longer than expected. Now Kone is back Martinez will reel of shit about having options upfront in Lukaku, Naismith, Mirallas and Kone.
Mark Griffiths
33 Posted 23/01/2015 at 21:34:00
I just hope we get a replacement in ASAP! Off topic but I just caught 10 mins of the man u game, bloody hell Luke Chadwick has aged! Completely forgot about him!
Jim Bennings
34 Posted 23/01/2015 at 21:35:10
Callum McManaman is possibly the only Wigan player I think could do well here because he occupies a position where we need strengthening, once Mirallas leaves we are shit weak on the flanks.

As for EtoÂ’o going? Well we can only hope Lukaku stays fit because again, we are shit weak with Kone clearly lacking full sharpness and Naismith not a striker and as hard a worker he is, heÂ’s slightly limited.

Not the transfer window IÂ’d been hoping for so far.

Brian Waring
35 Posted 23/01/2015 at 22:23:46
Supposedly there was no initial fee up front, but there are performance related payments, how many games/goals.
Brian Waring
36 Posted 23/01/2015 at 22:26:03
Jim,Callum McManaman is a local lad (Huyton) so it wouldnÂ’t be long before he became a scapegoat for the boo boys like Hibbert, Osman etc were.
Tony Dove
37 Posted 23/01/2015 at 22:56:45
I will miss the shouts of play it again Sam but nothing else. Have a happy retirement with Gascoigne Ginola Sansom and others.
Neil Pickering
38 Posted 23/01/2015 at 23:16:52
Has anyone heard the shite that Martinez has been spouting about EtoÂ’o? How he has been such a positive influence both on and off the pitch! What a load of shite that is. I reckon heÂ’s probably told Martinez that he talks shite and thatÂ’s why heÂ’s off. If he was that positive around the club he would be staying. Simple as.
Keith Harrison
39 Posted 23/01/2015 at 23:46:48
Callum McManaman was released by us a few years ago, so weÂ’ll now go and buy him back, like we did with Jagielka and several others whose names escape me.
Eric Myles
40 Posted 24/01/2015 at 00:26:03
Nick #1, at least we got a fee for Neil and he was as surprised as us that he was going
Andy Crooks
41 Posted 24/01/2015 at 00:23:26
Lyndon, do you not think that Roberto should have remained silent on this. What is wrong with " no comment" He just makes himself look like the last man to know. Bewildered, powerless and stressed.

To me he looks, too often, like a weak coach trying to flex muscles he sadly does not have.

Andy Crooks
42 Posted 24/01/2015 at 00:31:12
Tony # 37, add to those you have named. Whiteside, Kidd, Rioch, Gough( perhaps)Johnson and others I cannot recall at the moment. The greats who came to Everton and lived down to their reputations.
Lyndon Lloyd
43 Posted 24/01/2015 at 00:44:44
Andy (41), I think a "no comment" response would have garnered just as much criticism, to be honest.

In that respect, I think itÂ’s a no-win situation for Roberto.

Mark Andersson
44 Posted 24/01/2015 at 02:03:17
ItÂ’s a new day here in sunny Australia but this dark cloud called Everton shite season is just waiting to pour more misery. I did laugh at post 28 nice one.
Phil Smith
45 Posted 24/01/2015 at 03:11:22
Very nice, Gerry (28).
Get rid of him or play him up front! Sick of seeing him in the middle of the park.
Mark Andersson
46 Posted 24/01/2015 at 04:23:24
Only good thing at the moment is there is more drama coming out of Everton FC than all the soaps on TV. Certainly more entertaining reading all the posts.

What ever unfolds over the remaining season there is sure to be as big of a cliff hanger as who shot JR.

Anto Byrne
47 Posted 24/01/2015 at 07:33:14
Mercenary Footballer of the highest order, other than Burnley away I cant think of anything remarkable that he brought to the side. Arguing with referees and pointing a lot like Neville.

Pity he wasnÂ’t a playmaker creative midfielder with the killer pass, a game changer. Nah a has been superstar whose star is rapidly fading at this level. Fuck off and good riddance.

Colin Glassar
48 Posted 24/01/2015 at 08:05:08
Sampdoria have been bang out of order in all of this according to reports. TheyÂ’ve led a media campaign against Everton while ignoring all the proper channels, aided by EtoÂ’s money-grabbing agent whoÂ’s desperate for his 10% cut.
Eddie Dunn
49 Posted 24/01/2015 at 08:12:54
I wonder how old he really is?
Phil Walling
50 Posted 24/01/2015 at 08:48:49
Colin, you are really beginning to sound like the Club placement in these columns.

See no evil, hear no evil but, my gawd, the smell is atrocious!

The entire EtoÂ’o thing has stunk right from his signing for us. We are very well rid.

Jon Withey
51 Posted 24/01/2015 at 09:02:03
Colin, surely EtoÂ’o had his say in all this...

Last time I saw him play it was pretty clear he wasnÂ’t really up for the fight anymore.

Although, to be fair, that wasnÂ’t too obvious given the company he was in.

Denis Richardson
52 Posted 24/01/2015 at 09:28:31
Whether Eto’o was still up to it or not, we’ll never know given he was rarely played in his proper position – sound familiar?

Best for both parties, imo. He only has a short time left before he hangs up his boots and if I were him IÂ’d rather be at a club thatÂ’ll play me where IÂ’m best rather than coming off the bench to play in a position IÂ’ve never played in before.

The fact that he’s very close to the 15-game mark, thereby triggering another year extension, presumably also plays a part here – or is that just being too cynical? Maybe he had a go at RM because he wasn’t being played to avoid the extension? Didn’t we have that with another player a few years back?

Personally I donÂ’t blame the guy, even if he had a go. RM probably painted him a great picture in order for him to sign and when he came he realised it was bullshit.

Just let him go; the longer he stays, the worse it looks for the club.

Jim Bennings
53 Posted 24/01/2015 at 09:36:12
EtoÂ’o came across as a big leader on the pitch and a decent approachable guy. As for what else he did?
Hmmmmm... put an inch perfect cross in for Osman to score the winner in one of our 5 wins this season and single-handedly won us the second of our 5 wins at Burnley. Also saved our ass in Krasnodar so we won the group.

ItÂ’s very possible the man got pissed off with the shit around him, a lethal finisher throughout his career yet at the age of 33 his manager thinks heÂ’s a fucking right sided midfielder...

He was only a short-term fix, true; but heÂ’s another body gone with our hopes pinning on a semi-fit Kone whoÂ’s nowhere near his full sharpness and Lukaku who has not scored a Premier League goal since December 3rd against Hull. (ThatÂ’s piss poor really, and I have to agree with Neville Southall in stating the obvious, Lukaku is not doing the business enough yet.)

So, unless Roberto brings in a replacement for Eto’o, we are yet again one or two injuries away from scratching our heads for answers. Our goal scoring exploits since the end of October have been laughably poor – allowing a striker to go is a bad move right now.

James Marshall
54 Posted 24/01/2015 at 09:53:24
IÂ’d sell him on the basis of his clothing choices alone. WTF did he look like at the station in Manchester?
Ian McDowell
55 Posted 24/01/2015 at 11:07:28
He shouldÂ’ve played far more games and still is a better player than Lukaku. He mustÂ’ve been watching from the bench thinking, "How can I not get a game here?" For me, he shouldÂ’ve started as our main striker.
Neil Pickering
56 Posted 24/01/2015 at 11:11:49
Ian @56, I couldnÂ’t agree more mate. I remember in the odd game when he came in for Lukaku up front, the difference in his touch, movement, and awareness was startling in comparison to Lukaku.

He was played as a midfielder though, even though, at the peak of his powers, he was the best box player in the world. Figure that one out!

He may have lost pace but he still knows how to score goals.

Jim Bennings
57 Posted 24/01/2015 at 11:44:09
No matter which way you paint the picture, the fact is Lukaku has scored just TWO league goals since the end of October – that is not anywhere good enough for a player who the manager shelled out 㿈 million on.

The fee of course is not LukakuÂ’s fault and to be fair, maybe against Man City and West Ham he looked like the penny had dropped a little in whatÂ’s required, but the only thing that will save his season being about more questions than answers will be if he bangs in at the very least 8 more Premier League goals.

Eto’o is obviously different to Rom, he’s been there and done it and is at the opposite end of his career but one thing you’re losing is experience and an ability to turn a game on its head, such as against Burnley; those moments have become fewer because of some poor management by Martinez – at times Eto’o has been so deep he could have played right-back!

Tony Abrahams
58 Posted 24/01/2015 at 11:59:21
I agree 100% about the bad management from Martinez, Jim. I disagree 100% about his use of EtoÂ’o. He was a good impact player, no doubt, but he used to go out on the wing for a rest.

It looked like he was too strong a character for Roberto, because when he used to go and stand on the wing, he was never dragged off?

Dave Lynch
60 Posted 24/01/2015 at 12:28:24
Totally underused and misused by a manager who is glaringly out of his depth at Everton.

This lad – regardless of his age – could have been a 10-15 goal striker this season.

Jim Hourigan
61 Posted 24/01/2015 at 13:36:10
I think he genuinely believes he is bigger than Everton and has no stomach for a relegation fight – having only ever played for teams who win things. Sampdoria will give him a top-of-the-table season and that is probably what he thought would have been the case with Everton when he looked at last season.

His influence has clearly become more and more destructive and (according to a youth team source) he shows no respect for Martinez in training. However, Martinez wants to save face and pretends all is well between them. Sadly, when all around you know that’s a farce, it will inevitably lead to more problems for Martinez – Mirallas’s penalty anyone? Don’t be surprised if some of our more coveted players start to make noises.

Andy Walker
62 Posted 24/01/2015 at 14:13:06
Yes, Jim, the last thing we need now are players who have experience in winning stuff. We now need players used to battling relegation – at least our manager has this... although it didn’t work out well for his last team!
Phil Walling
63 Posted 24/01/2015 at 14:24:25
Signal more signings from Wigan, eh, Andy? Although the Pie Eaters seem to have another relegation battle of their own...
Ray Roche
64 Posted 24/01/2015 at 14:28:35
According to Football Italia,

"The Cameroon international is expected to sign a 30-month contract with performance-related bonuses rather than a transfer fee given to Everton."

So we are not getting anything for him, just his wage bill removed. I hope weÂ’re not paying any of his contract up... that WOULD be silly.

Andy Walker
65 Posted 24/01/2015 at 14:43:48
I really donÂ’t know anymore, Phil. I think we are in such a mess, at the back, in the middle and upfront. Martinez looks like a rabbit caught in the headlights, the players either donÂ’t look committed or lack confidence.

The whole situation is a shambles and it isnÂ’t just going to magically change. The die is cast, a loosing culture is being built. We are following a blue print that has been proved a failure at Wigan. Relegation is now a real prospect and the best way to improve our chances of avoiding it is to bring in a much better manager.

Who would I bring in? I donÂ’t know, but I do know that I would look at the guyÂ’s track record to see if heÂ’s brought proven success to his previous teams. IÂ’d define success as consistently outperforming teams with similar resources (top 6 in league), has never relegated his team, and is canny in the transfer market, ie, finds gems for little money. ThatÂ’s what we need, not a dreamer with a philosophy.

Clive Rogers
66 Posted 24/01/2015 at 15:46:38

A mess at the back, middle and front. That means weÂ’re a total mess.

Jim Bennings
67 Posted 24/01/2015 at 16:45:07
Just looking at the FA Cup scores this afternoon fucking Man City and Chelsea close to elimination, how much regret can an Evertonian have in one season? Yet again we could have had a great chance of a cup run if we had a half decent team.

Instead, we are looking at the bottom of the Premier League and frankly the likes of Crystal Palace and Leicester are not looking as poor as Everton at this present moment in time. I believe those two could finish above us and we are looking at Hull, Sunderland, Villa, QPR and Burnley plus ourselves – pick the three worst out of that bunch.

I have watched Palace and Leicester this season quite a bit and IÂ’d have to say both are better than us and the mentioned teams.

Wow: Chelsea 2-4 Bradford City!!!

Ian McDowell
68 Posted 24/01/2015 at 16:59:06
Fully agree, Jim. I heard Palace described as lively and energetic, everything we are not. IÂ’m pissed off with Everton.
Ray Roche
69 Posted 24/01/2015 at 17:02:05
Jim, weÂ’ve got a half-decent team... pity is, weÂ’ve got a gobshite for a manager.
Nelly Verdonghan
70 Posted 24/01/2015 at 17:26:31
We let EtoÂ’o leave yet keep absolute garbage like McGeady... doesnÂ’t make sense to me.

Originally, he filled me with hope but IÂ’m rapidly losing faith in Martinez now.

Tom Magill
71 Posted 24/01/2015 at 17:34:24
Jim we have a very good squad capable of outstanding football. ItÂ’s the piss poor manager who canÂ’t get them to tick.

ItÂ’s depressing seeing those FA Cup results today, we couldÂ’ve won it this year.

Jim Bennings
72 Posted 24/01/2015 at 17:33:01

We half a semi half decent team, I know Martinez has carried on like a total circus act this season in everything heÂ’s done IÂ’m not even challenging that but I look at the team, itÂ’s full of old men or injury prone men, there are a handful of players that you can say are fairly good buteven they have been pretty shit this season, the likes of Coleman ect.

Just feel so pissed off that another fantastic opportunity to achieve something has gone again.

The money men canÂ’t be happy and wonÂ’t be happy during the close season when the season ticket sales are dramatically down and there is none of last summerÂ’s optimism over the Martinez "honeymoon from heaven first season"

I hope whilst they are all sunning themselves in Qatar that they are having some serious long hard discussionÂ’s over where this team and club is heading not just this season, but the summer and beyond.

Anthony Hughes
73 Posted 24/01/2015 at 17:38:05
World class striker when played as a striker and not a fucking wide man. How many games did he start as our main forward? Had a few pints this afternoon so maybe my state of mind is slightly buggered but IÂ’d take EtoÂ’s football experiences and career and knowledge over El Passico. Should have played him more often, Roberto, in his correct position.

And please donÂ’t give me the crap of heÂ’s 33, Barry gets a game week-in & week-out.

Kieran Riding
74 Posted 24/01/2015 at 17:52:05
Jim #73, "sunning themselves in Qatar". Man City were doing similar this week, and itÂ’s not done them any harm, has it ??
Phil Walling
75 Posted 24/01/2015 at 17:45:14
I was talking to somebody this afternoon who claimed that EtoÂ’o had been Â’a festering soreÂ’ ever since he arrived here and had caused Martinez a load of grief which has rubbed off on other players.

My acquaintance is convinced that now he is out of the way, Â’normal respect Â’ for the manager will be resumed and results will improve as a consequence.

IÂ’m none to sure that the solution is purely one of moving the player on but, in spite of my long stated view of our manager, it would be marvellous for our prospects if that proves to be the case.

We can but hope !

Jim Bennings
76 Posted 24/01/2015 at 17:58:15

Well it would have been hoped Martinez had caught on back in August about EtoÂ’oÂ’s chatacter and not been full of the superlatives heÂ’s come out with all season.

The "festering sore" had no impact on Monday night in what was yet another drab dismal affair so I think we can keep hoping the clouds are made of marshmallow if we believe following EtoÂ’o leaving we are all of a sudden going to turn this ship wreck around.

Paul Ellam
77 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:09:40
IÂ’m sure he will let us all know exactly why he left us for them.
Waiting for the skat to hit the fan!
Colin Glassar
79 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:05:33
Glad the EtoÂ’o thing is over btw. Bloody embarrassing that was. I didnÂ’t want him in the first place but then warmed to him then started to hear all the rumours. I think weÂ’re better off without him tbh.
Glen Garrett
80 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:13:18
Thank god for that!
Denis Richardson
81 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:05:38
Jim - with the results in youÂ’ll be glad to know that 10 teams (including 4 out of the top 6!) in the prem are now officially out of the FA Cup before the 4th round has even finished!

(Call me paranoid but with Man City, Chelsea, Spurs and Southampton all losing, at home, to much lesser teams (two not even in the premiership!), either the top teams donÂ’t give a flyer about the FA Cup or there are some very happy Â’puntersÂ’ in the far east...)

Either way, half the Premier League are now out of the cup basically giving Man Utd and RS a clear run to the title. Sods law we choose to get knocked out at the first time of asking when it looks like this will be one of of the easiest years to win this trophy!

Darren Hind
82 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:15:34
Source Phil # 76 ?

Didnt think so

Darryl Ritchie
83 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:15:53
City lose 2-0 in the Etihad, to a championship club!
Could the reason be that theyÂ’re just back from a week of warm weather training? Just saying.....
Brian Waring
84 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:23:24
See Arsene Wenger has come out and said it was player power that made him change his tactics against City, heÂ’s obviously lost the dressing room.
Colin Glassar
85 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:26:26
Mesut Ozil aka Marty Feldman stared at Wenger for more than five minutes without blinking Brian. That was enough for Wenger to concede defeat.
Will Firstbrook
87 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:21:46
You have an aging, expensive mercenary who wants to go and the club is left with the option of bending over and accepting it or dig in and risk having a malcontent spreading poison throughout the squad for what will be a very tough, if not critical, remainder of the season. Not a fun choice to make.

He wouldnÂ’t have pulled this move at a Â’biggerÂ’ club who has the resources and depth to let him rot in reserve pergatory. Reality is this risk existed the day we signed him. It was always a gamble and at the beginning of the season, a reasonable one to take.

Andy Cobham
88 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:34:03
CanÂ’t work out whether EtoÂ’o going is good or bad to be honest. IÂ’ve seen flashes of the class that the guy has obviously got, and at times heÂ’s looked streets ahead of the rest of the team. other times heÂ’s just gone missing and frustrated the balls off me. The bit thatÂ’s the unknown I guess is whether he wouldÂ’ve been more effective playing in his true position more often,having said that if heÂ’s that good and up for it, a truly class player produces no matter where he plays.

This is truly turning into a anus horriblis (Capt Ego being the biggest arse) for Evertonians.

Jim Bennings
89 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:45:08
Warm weather training is basically a laughable excuse for getting this shower of Incredible Crash Dummies out of the media firing line. (or should that be Phenomenal Crash Dummies?)

We are stuck in desert heat for days and then come back to a cold winter and a bubbling Selhurst Park, you get the feeling they are going to have to hit the ground running at Palace otherwise there will be the inevitable mountain of questions afterwards.

ItÂ’s ok going off on jaunts like this when you are flying high and simply have free time with no game but it just looks like a cop out to me.

What I would have done is took the whole team to one of these FA Cup ties over the weekend and say to them, "This could have been you lot today, get your fucking hands on some silverware but, instead, we are twiddling our thumbs in the bloody Middle East, in January!"

Phil Walling
90 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:29:44
Darren, donÂ’t be daft! Who the hell trots out Â’sourcesÂ’ if they ever expect further Â’gossÂ’ to come their way?

My view is that the explanation is too simplistic/convenient although expect further suggestions along the same lines.

In any event, it says little for the Martinez management skills if he signed a Â’bad Â’unÂ’ and then allowed him to sour the dressing room. Or did he join us as a link in the Romelu deal?

Be all that as it may, it would still be lovely to see a complete turn round of form by ALL the lads EtoÂ’o has left behind, wouldnÂ’t it?

Tom Bowers
91 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:50:37
EtoÂ’o didnÂ’t fill the bill... but who has this season? The player has obvious class but is past his best and getting slower. Some of our current players are a lot younger and still slow.

With the announcement that Everton are one of the Â’Â’richest clubsÂ’Â’ at present, why no moves to add to the squad considering the players who are mostly injured, such as Pienaar and Gibson? I know there are contractual issues with these players but keeping them on payroll seems a waste and now that EtoÂ’oÂ’s wages have gone, the question remains: why no signings?

Darren Hind
92 Posted 24/01/2015 at 18:56:38
Brian Waring 87

ItÂ’s not the managers who listen to their players who lose the dressing room. ItÂ’s the clowns who claim the meeting never even took place... those who INSIST there will be no change of Filosofie!

James Stewart
93 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:01:48
Disappointed with this. A already thin squad is another man down. Especially in Europe his experience was vital I thought. None of our players have achieved anything like EtoÂ’o has with their careers. He was always in the ear of the ref as well. None of our players do this. Born winner.
Colin Glassar
94 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:06:07
Jim, do you think some of them will catch a cold when they get back? I do. Wimps.
Kevin Tully
95 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:03:20
He was certainly a character in our dressing room. Was it the Man City game where he was basically giving a team talk on the pitch during the warm up? I thought it was bit strange at the time, watching the captain sitting there to like that, and a player who had been there five minutes trying to cajole his team-mates.

His actions that day would suggest he had a lot to say, and that Jagielka is no more suited to being our captain than I am. Good riddance if he was undermining the rest of the shrinking violets. Naismith or McCarthy for captain.

Phil Walling
96 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:09:37
Kevin, we may not exchange many compliments but I really do believe YOU would make a better captain than poor old Phil!
Jim Bennings
97 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:08:32
Definitely Colin.

No doubt we will pretend our time out in Qatar was some kind of pre-season and the next thing we will hear from Martinez when they return home is "it will take us three or four games to regain familiarity with the climate in England and you will see us catch fire in Spring"

Wait for it!

Darren Hind
98 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:11:17
There can be no worse signing than that of a superstar who has lost his powers.

I hated when we were trailing with ten minutes to go and EtoÂ’o would spend eight of them bleating to the ref about a decision that was given 20 minutes earlier.

Kevin Tully
99 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:12:54
Ah, the stuff of my dreams, Phil. Everton captain and Debbie Harry....need some new material.
Will Firstbrook
100 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:15:20
One thing I admired about EtoÂ’o, he was the only one in the squad willing to get up in the refÂ’s face (when he was on the pitch, of course)
Brian Hennessy
101 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:12:35
Based on his past record of falling out with managers IÂ’m not surprised to see him go once he made his mind up.

But what really annoys me about this saga is that it seems we havenÂ’t been able to get a single penny for a player moving from us while still in contract.

For me that shows incredibly poor negotiating skills.

Bill Gall
102 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:26:07
Jim (#105) No doubt you will be pleased to hear under, Qatar Benifits already Showing), Mr MartinezÂ’s statements of it is just like a pre-season within a season and his normally expected "The people of Qatar are phenomonal."
Colin Leary
103 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:29:19
I really hope that the Everton players are reading all the comments around the pool on the blues forums on their diamond bling smartphones and realise the fans passion for our club.. Warm weather training.. They need to watch Rocky 4 doing cold weather training in Russia to fight Drago.. Haha.
Colin Glassar
104 Posted 24/01/2015 at 19:55:18
No use giving team talks or getting in the refs face when you canÂ’t talk the lingo is it? I saw him getting interviewed once and he said he couldnÂ’t speak English.
Tim Greeley
105 Posted 24/01/2015 at 20:13:18
Adieu Sammy, weÂ’ll always have Burnley.......and Krasnodar!!
Phil Walling
107 Posted 24/01/2015 at 20:25:43
I guess he will go down with Gazza and Ginola who saw all their better times years before they landed at Goodison.

All sad old buggers, really. But expensive.

Barry Stevens
108 Posted 24/01/2015 at 20:31:47
In terms of replacement weÂ’re being linked in the Italian media with El Shaarawy of Ac Milan. Would be a good signing if true.
Colin Glassar
109 Posted 24/01/2015 at 20:45:48
Being linked to Al-Shawami tonight. Think he plays for Milan.
Allan Board
110 Posted 24/01/2015 at 20:38:27
Is that the same bloke who did "Green Door" and "This Old house" in the 80s, Barry?!!!!
Michael Kenrick
111 Posted 24/01/2015 at 20:45:58
No mention of this under Â’NewsÂ’ on the official Everton website... Is the Club still in denial? Or spinning out a story about how they have made full use of the two weeks since this broke, to assess "what is best for both Everton and Samuel"?

It’s quite clear what Eto’o’s agent thought was best for Samuel, and it has been pursued relentlessly – despite the denials and then the shameless pouting (in the Echo) from Everton’s side. So they wanted him to stay? And the player wanted to go? Guess how this story ends...

Maybe by Tuesday, when he is Â’officially unveiledÂ’ in Genoa, the reality will finally sink in.

Kieran Riding
112 Posted 24/01/2015 at 20:59:45
No Michael, Lyndon jumped the gun. ItÂ’s imminent, not completed.

James Martin
113 Posted 24/01/2015 at 21:04:56
As soon as EtoÂ’o had his agents putting feelers out, we should have got rid. I canÂ’t understand the club wanting to keep a player who doesnÂ’t want to be here, just for a paltry half-million or so. We could have let him go early and got someone else in.

IÂ’m just glad because Roberto was never going to play him as a Number 9 so his departure at least stops the dreaded prospect of the "three Number 10s" formation coming out again.

DonÂ’t worry about the cup results, if weÂ’dÂ’ve got through that penalty shootout, all the big boys would have convincingly won and it would have been Chelsea away in the next round.

Everton seem allergic to trophies. You would think a club our size would win one just by the law of averages but sadly not, they throw away the League Cup every single year and find a new way to disappoint you in the FA Cup every time.

Michael Kenrick
114 Posted 24/01/2015 at 21:05:33
Kieran, would that be the same website that reported the words of the Everton manager from just three days ago, saying, "The Samuel EtoÂ’o situation is something that weÂ’re going to make sure that the next two weeks is a period of reflection and see whatÂ’s the next move in that respect."???

Incredibly foolish thing to say in the circumstances.

The Echo are making out that Sampdoria were the bad guys in this because they wouldnÂ’t take "No" from Everton? Yet the idiotic local press ends with "If he does go then he will depart with no ill-feeling and only the thanks of Martinez and the club."

What complete bullshit. Do they think we are all totally stupid? How else are transfers supposed to happen, in the transfer window???

Kieran Riding
115 Posted 24/01/2015 at 21:23:48
Michael, The Echo are spinning it for Everton. IÂ’m sure you know this. They are getting very little out of the club right now, and so they need to get back on side.
Kevin Rowlands
116 Posted 24/01/2015 at 21:33:56
PW, read on twitter a few weeks ago from someone who usually gives out very reliable information that EtoÂ’o has been poison in the locker room and caused all sorts of problems. "No smoke without fire", as they say; good fucking riddance.
Ross Edwards
117 Posted 24/01/2015 at 21:55:17
Everyone has announced it. We all know heÂ’s gone. The club hasnÂ’t said a word. Silence.

How can we believe what anyone at this club says anymore? Last week Martinez said he was staying. Now heÂ’s gone.

No one knows whatÂ’s happening. The fans donÂ’t know, and that Sampdoria presidentÂ’s comment was interesting. Â’We donÂ’t know whoÂ’s in charge at Everton. They say one thing and do another.Â’

Lie after lie after lie. No wonder no-one knows what the hell is going on.

Andrew Laird
118 Posted 24/01/2015 at 21:56:00
EtoÂ’o still not officially a Sampdoria player and contracted to Everton FC yet SampdoriaÂ’s official media channels have released him wearing their shirt.

Is this a case of media blackmail in order to get a quicker decision from whoever is in charge at Everton? And/or a sly dig at Martinez by publically showing he wasnÂ’t the one in charge after his press conference?

Either way, it is showing the club in a very poor light, too indecisive to offload an uninterested player and not enough balls to give our side to the story and tell Sampdoria and EtoÂ’o to be professional. I wonder if Samuel has been asked to sign an "loose lips" agreement to keep scthum?

Bob Heyward
119 Posted 24/01/2015 at 23:57:09
I think Ross is really getting with the programme here. Great to hear those words, and all the more powerful from one who once so supported Martinez.

To me, it seems clear that with the spectacular levels of nonsense coming out of El Pied Piper of Gwladys Street, we fans are getting highly frustrated. So, imagine how it must be for our players.

A small and distracting minority point to the West Ham games as Â’proofÂ’ of Martinez having what it takes. Happily, their shrieks are now whimpers that are nowz highly irrelevant and ignored by the vast majority of fans. Instead, a more sensible reading of those West Ham and Man City games is emerging, showing our players are desperately trying get out of the MartinezÂ’s fantasy land.

As I said at the time, I think RomÂ’s post-Man City comments about the players forcing changes were highly instructive. Similar was seen with the Besic and Mirallas issues, GarbuttÂ’s post-Newcastle interview, and the constant rumours about disquiet in the dressing room that Jags had to address. Martinez lost the squad a long time ago, and the evidence grows that it is getting worse by the day.

All is not happy in the camp. If the managerÂ’s duplicity and obfuscation is annoying us, every day brings further evidence that it is driving the dressing room apart too.

IÂ’d sooner Bill pulled the plug now, before Palace. The last five days have been wasted, allowing El Pied Piper to play his flute. That is only making a bad situation worse. We are now a united front, save the couple who still bang the pitiful Â’but heÂ’s my Bobby and heÂ’s amazingÂ’ drum.

As a united base, we must now see action. Time for BK to pull the trigger – he has our support.

Nicholas Ryan
120 Posted 25/01/2015 at 01:25:14
Good to see that Sampdoria have finally signed Kevin Pietersen!!
Tom Cuffe
121 Posted 25/01/2015 at 01:39:15
IÂ’ve supported Everton since 1986 and I can honestly say IÂ’ve never being more frightened in this time of losing our top flight status. Not only does the team seem to be unraveling, but so does the club.

We need leadership and transparency on all fronts in order to try and make sense of whatÂ’s going on at the club we all love so dear.

Mark Andersson
122 Posted 25/01/2015 at 04:03:59
Good day marvellous people. While reading all the posts I had this thought. This time last year I was smugly enjoying the demise of David Moyes. Karma I thought, same as when Stevie G slipped against Chelsea. So what have we done in the past to be facing total chaos now?.

On a more realistic note, could it be Billy Boy has let MartineZs fly off to the sun while he looks for a new manager?

I cannot see us getting a result in our next four games. IÂ’m not a betting man but I would put money on us going down.

Denis Richardson
123 Posted 25/01/2015 at 09:43:04
The only comfort we have at this time is that there are worse teams below us in the league (yes, itÂ’s true, believe it).

Villa are on just a bad run as us and the likes of Hull, QPR and Leicester are awful. ItÂ’s going to be nervous hoping that none of these teams suddenly get their act together but this is the only reason IÂ’m confident we wonÂ’t go down.

ThatÂ’s not exactly a great endorsement of our current management!

Jim Bennings
124 Posted 25/01/2015 at 09:52:12

I beg to differ your view that Leicester are awful.

They won at Hull on Boxing Day, battered Liverpool at Anfield and were unlucky not to win in that 2-2 draw, they put Newcastle out of the FA Cup and then yesterday won at Spurs. Could you have seriously seen Everton going on a run of results like that?

I have watched Palace and Leicester quite a bit and I think at present they are better than us, Villa, Sunderland and Hull. IÂ’m not sure about Burnley and QPR but even those two have shown some glimpses of fight recently.

I think West Brom will be okay with Pulis who knows how to keep sides up.

I believe itÂ’s out of Everton, Villa, Sunderland, QPR, Burnley and Hull. I wonÂ’t totally discount Leicester or West Brom but I think theyÂ’ll be okay.

Phil Walling
125 Posted 25/01/2015 at 10:42:28
Well, I am a betting man although I would never dream of putting money on my club to go down even if the were rank bottom now.

For those of us who always believe the bookies donÂ’t get much wrong, take solace from the fact that they have Everton from 22-1 (Bet365) to 25-1 (Betfred) whilst the odds on the rest are Newcastle (25-1) WBA (9-2) Crystal Palace (9/2) Sunderland (11/4) Aston Villa (5/2) Hull (11/8) QPR (8/11) Leicester (4/6) and Burnley (8/13).

So with three teams odds-on, the moneymen are staying with the three who came up to go back in the opposite direction whilst Everton hardly figure in their calculations.

Now nobody wants rid of this manager more that me but for what itÂ’s worth my money (partly for value) will go on QPR, Hull and the mighty Villa. If a bet is available, I would plump for our club to finish 16th.

We must pick up a win or two soon. MustnÂ’t we???

Steve Woods
126 Posted 25/01/2015 at 11:07:42
It depends what your definition of soon is Phil. Its hard to see the "win or two" you are hoping for in the next 3 PL games. After that the following three PL games against Leicester (a) Arsenal (h) and Chelsea (h) are going to be no push overs but Martinez will have been shoved into the taxi before then surely!
Dave Pritchard
127 Posted 25/01/2015 at 11:17:05
On transfers and what the club say I agree that it is frustrating when we donÂ’t know exactly what is going on. However this is the rule rather than the exception with all clubs not just Everton while negotiations are going on behind the scenes.
I just hope the EtoÂ’o deal gets confirmed asap and that just maybe we use the wages freed up to get someone else in.
Ian Jones
129 Posted 25/01/2015 at 12:02:17
I look forward to the next development at the club to come to the fore to give some a chance to criticise the club AGAIN..... I have said before on other threads that none of us on this forum know the reality of what goes on behind the scenes. Some claim to have sources at the club who reveal bits and pieces... that may be true... all very interesting.

I am sure the management have full knowledge of the EtoÂ’o situation and will make a statement when the time is right rather than being pushed.

However, I also mentioned the Gosling affair in an earlier thread when I donÂ’t think there was an official statement made... so I have argued against myself!

Meanwhile.... 16 games to go. Nearly half a season. So plenty of time to climb up the table.

Need to be optimistic...

Colin Glassar
130 Posted 25/01/2015 at 13:39:56
So heÂ’s gone then? I wonder how long he stays before he, and his agent, start seeking another move for a juicy signing on fee?
Ken Williams
131 Posted 25/01/2015 at 16:42:09
So player power strikes again, proving contracts are not worth the paper they are written on. I for one am not to bothered about EtoÂ’o moving on, the only downside is the lack of an up-front fee. LetÂ’s just hope we sign a younger player in his place.
Mike Allison
132 Posted 25/01/2015 at 17:36:44
If he has forced this move and the club hadnÂ’t accepted it, then I hope we absolutely DONÂ’T confirm it.

We can all agree EtoÂ’o will be nowhere near Finch Farm or Goodison ever again, so his disruptive influence will be gone, and we can just fine him the next two weeks wages if we didnÂ’t agree to him going over for a medical, refuse to pay the rest of his contract and see how he gets on at the Court of Arbitration for Sport.

If Sampdoria have just got ahead of themselves hoping to give their fans some good news, then we can all just chill out and be glad an apparent disruptive influence has gone. Has anyone ever seen an Everton team so lacking in spirit and togetherness as over the last six or seven weeks? Even if it wasnÂ’t EtoÂ’oÂ’s fault, we can happily pretend it was as long as the fight and togetherness returns for the rest of the season.

Colin Glassar
133 Posted 25/01/2015 at 17:45:57
Good points made, Mike. If he has forced this, I hope we arenÂ’t paying his wages. Too many times weÂ’ve been done by unscrupulous shit houses like AvdM, Bilic and OFM to name a few.
Darryl Ritchie
134 Posted 25/01/2015 at 17:58:56
ItÂ’s generally agreed that EtoÂ’o was a disruptive force in the club, and the club is better off without him. The facts are, if nobody involved says anything, weÂ’ll never know. When they do release a statement, itÂ’s going to be "untruthful" anyway.

WeÂ’ll find out what actually went on behind closed doors in time, but not yet. Somebody will write a tell-all book. ItÂ’s sad that that the fans, who live and breathe Everton, are in the dark, most of the time.

Michael Upton
136 Posted 25/01/2015 at 20:34:21
I know IÂ’m late to the party on this but a couple of observations:

1) Re EtoÂ’o, god knows whatÂ’s gone on there. He looked ace against Burnley but has not been given the chances as a Number 9 that maybe he needed to score more. I can understand RM betting on his big signing to score the goals and in many ways Lukaku has been let down by tactics misusing his skills or a lack of decent service as much as his own indifferent form. Whether EtoÂ’o has been disruptive behind the scenes I donÂ’t know, but the lack of a fee suggests heÂ’s not gone just because of lack of game time.

2) Is it possible for a TW thread to exist without some tedious reference to Wigan? IÂ’m sick to death of people going on about RMÂ’s Wigan old boys as an excuse for our current predicament.

LetÂ’s be clear: RM signed 4 players from Wigan: McCarthy was stellar last season, Alcaraz hardly played, Kone likewise and Robles, a barely used keeper, can hardly be reflective of a playing style. I also donÂ’t believe Wigan played the same kind of passing-heavy style RM has persisted with here so can we please dispense with the Wigan obsession everyone? As for Wigan being relegated, Martinez was largely credited for keeping them up in the first instance despite the likes of Rodellega, Moses et al being sold from under him.

Having said all that, IÂ’m fast losing patience with a defensively brittle side who carry little attacking threat and criminally under-used pace in key areas. I genuinely wonder where the next win is coming from. But, if we go down, it WILL not be anything to do with MartinezÂ’s relegation past or his signing of Wigan players. It will be down to individual errors, missed chances, refereeing decisions (to a lesser extent) and his tactics of laboured build-up.

Eddie Dunn
138 Posted 25/01/2015 at 20:48:27
EtoÂ’o was not used properly, he did score a few for Chelsea last season, all in and around the box, but we didnÂ’t utilise him. However, Mourinho got rid of him despite his goals... he knew he was a pain in the arse.

People in the football world surely know who the pricks are, and Martinez has gone on record stating that we would only sign players of the right kind, who will fit in properly with his precious "group".

Why didnÂ’t he know what the guy was like?

Joe Clitherow
139 Posted 25/01/2015 at 22:41:33
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly of Samuel EtoÂ’o:

The Good – clearly the glimpse of the instinctive world class striker he once was that we saw against Burnley. Yes, it was Burnley, but what a pleasure to have seen his display then. A privilege to seen a footballer of his calibre performing for Everton;

The Bad – well more indifferent than bad, was the way our chump manager used him as a right winger or a second striker/ No 10?? Had he never seen him play? Even against Burnley;

The Ugly – sadly his apparently true to form behaviour in being, allegedly, a poisonous dressing room influence, and certainly a prize prick in this whole sorry saga with Sampdoria. Hopefully whatever wages he has due will be withheld as fines and a formal complaint around Sampdoria’s conduct with a player registered to another team should be made, because this episode is disgraceful. However poorly Everton comes out of this there are rules to be followed and the Sampdoria chairman’s statements that "he did not know who was in charge at Everton" – which were taken out of context because he said he was new to football and did not understand the process – are no excuse.

For me the ugly certainly outweighs everything else and all I can say is good riddance to the prick and now we can hopefully resume some sort of normality.

Colin Glassar
140 Posted 25/01/2015 at 23:02:15
Well said Joe. EtoÂ’o did an Odemwinge on us.
Ross Edwards
141 Posted 25/01/2015 at 23:23:07
Very disappointed in EtoÂ’o. ItÂ’ll be interesting to see how long he lasts at Sampdoria. I give it to the end of the season until he gets a move to some Arab club for one final pay day.

Judging by an article I read, EtoÂ’o is a disruptive influence and does try to challenge the authority of his manager. Roberto Carlos said that while he was at Anzhi "EtoÂ’o did everything but play well."

Colin Glassar
142 Posted 25/01/2015 at 23:32:39
Ross, If you want to know about EtoÂ’o read the Graham Hunter book about Barca. He made RijkaardÂ’s life a misery. He tried the same with GuardiolaÂ’s and was shown the door.

HeÂ’s a great player but a bit of an arsehole. Also, he almost stopped the Cameroon players going to the World Cup.

Ross Edwards
143 Posted 25/01/2015 at 23:39:16
I can imagine Colin. Definitely better off without him then. Not that he did much other than Burnley and Krasnodar.
Mike Corcoran
144 Posted 26/01/2015 at 00:49:09
Can I get my money back on my lads EtoÂ’o shirt? 3 months ainÂ’t great value.

Cheeky sam should have Corky on the back of his shirt as payback.

Dave Pritchard
145 Posted 26/01/2015 at 13:25:17
Riquelme has just retired, which is a shame, as we can no longer be linked with him.
Ross Edwards
146 Posted 26/01/2015 at 14:28:51
EtoÂ’o tweeting from Italy, not even a thank you to the fans for supporting him or a good luck message.

Treating us like dirt on the end of his shoe.

Tony Foxwell
147 Posted 26/01/2015 at 15:56:42
The sooner he has gone, the better. Roberto Carlos has even said he undermined that much he got sacked. His ego is better than his talent, he was world class but no more, he is too slow for the Premier League and good riddance. LetÂ’s hope the team spirit returns in Doha and we start our season against Palace. COYMT
Brian Wilkinson
148 Posted 26/01/2015 at 17:25:13
Gerry @28 do you think Mirallas might have also stolen BobbyÂ’s magic brown shoes and BillÂ’s piggybank for the transfer budget?

If I was Bobby, I would be looking to bring Barry Horne out for one last swansong, may need him come May.

Fighting off relegation, you just know Stevie G is going to grab the headlines in the derby, FA Cup opening up nicely for his swansong... FFS – why does everything have to go pearshaped at Everton?

Keith Harrison
149 Posted 26/01/2015 at 18:34:07
IsnÂ’t this typical Everton. HeÂ’s hawked for a move, we wonÂ’t stand in his way, everyone knows it is happening, but it still wonÂ’t be confirmed until the last minute of deadline day.

Which is why it will be too late for us to get the Marquee signing Bob and Bill (and probably Ben) would definitely have got.

Ste Traverse
150 Posted 26/01/2015 at 19:34:55
Martinez has spent the last four months praising EtoÂ’o so for him to get rid first chance he got is strange... whether you agree with his departure or not.

What I do find hugely amusing though is these beauts who have been questioning the manager all season for his bizzare team selections and tactics, yet EtoÂ’o is a "bad apple" who needs to be "fucked off" for doing the same.

IÂ’d rather have someone who is arsed enough to do that than just collect their wages and say nothing like most of our current squad.

Ross Edwards
151 Posted 26/01/2015 at 19:48:09
ThereÂ’s definitely been a falling out between the two, Ste. For him to go from defending him and saying that he was going nowhere to going on about ensuring Â’the best for the club and SamuelÂ’ within a week does hint at a possible confrontation.
Andy Meighan
152 Posted 26/01/2015 at 19:57:42
HasnÂ’t he gone yet?
Ross Edwards
153 Posted 26/01/2015 at 19:58:32
The latest episode in this farce. According to Sky Italia, the deal is held up because the club forgot to send some documents over.

Neil Wood
154 Posted 26/01/2015 at 20:15:33
I was undecided on EtoÂ’o until I saw him virtually refuse to come on as sub because it was cold. I was sat right next to the bench for the QPR game and it was a disgrace.
Pienaar was just as guilty too they both just couldnÂ’t be arsed getting changed. The second Kone was asked, he got stripped
Colin Glassar
155 Posted 26/01/2015 at 21:23:08
DidnÂ’t know that, Neil. Surprised by Pienaar (even though heÂ’s a stroppy bugger) but not by EtoÂ’o. I see heÂ’s having a go at Guardiola today saying he was a crap player and average manager at Barca. What an idiot.
Neil Wood
156 Posted 26/01/2015 at 21:30:15
Yes, Colin. It took them a good 7 or 8 minutes to take their tracksuits off. I wouldÂ’ve gone nuts had I been the boss. You could see Martinez was pissed off.
Colin Glassar
157 Posted 26/01/2015 at 21:37:14
No wonder both of them are on the way out then, Neil.
Sam Rangle
158 Posted 26/01/2015 at 23:11:31
Fantastic!! 5 days until the end of the transfer window of the worst season weÂ’ve had in 15 years and all we can talk about is losing our most creative / experienced / successful player.

Some want him gone? He has more medals by himself than the rest of the team and coaching staff combined. May just be me but I think we need winners on the team, not a pile of losers who havenÂ’t ever won shit.

Ian Jones
159 Posted 27/01/2015 at 06:20:19
I would rather have players at Everton who want to play at the club and perhaps donÂ’t think they are better or bigger than the club. Simple as that.
Kev Wood
160 Posted 27/01/2015 at 07:57:40
Well said, Ian (161). When a player shows no professional pride, it is time to get rid.

I thought the early suggestions were that Lukaku would learn from EtoÂ’o. LetÂ’s hope heÂ’s not picked up on EtoÂ’oÂ’s dysfunctional character. The player was welcomed but proved unfit to wear our badge. LetÂ’s not forget, medals earned elsewhere donÂ’t figure on our Honours Board.

Daniel A Johnson
161 Posted 27/01/2015 at 08:04:19
The player we are missing this season is Deulofeu.

He was never replaced and we miss his pace and directness on the counter especially at home where teams defend against us (see WBA).

You could argue maybe some of the Lukaku money should have been diverted to keeping him.

Colin Glassar
162 Posted 27/01/2015 at 08:10:41
Well one player who definitely wonÂ’t come to us now is Riquelme. I always had a lingering hope weÂ’d get him for at least one season but heÂ’s gone and retired.

Is Moutinho still around?

Ian Jones
163 Posted 27/01/2015 at 08:16:40
Kev @ 162. Of course there are also players who are currently at and want to be at Everton that I would like moved on and those who would like to come to the club that I donÂ’t want ever to see playing for us. It works all ways.
Sam Hoare
164 Posted 27/01/2015 at 09:13:31
EtoÂ’o leaving to possibly be replaced by Pato. DoesnÂ’t sound like the activities at a club facing the looming spectre of relegation! Sadly neither player is what they were 4 years ago...
Sean McCarthy
165 Posted 27/01/2015 at 14:10:34
Sam #160 thereÂ’s a difference between someone who WAS a winner a few years ago and the version of EtoÂ’o thatÂ’s been seen at Everton for the past 6 months. A sad indictment of our ambition that people are getting upset at the departure of a washed up, shadow of his former self, money grabbing has-been.
Bill Gall
166 Posted 27/01/2015 at 13:46:26
As supporters with minimal knowledge of what is happening in transfer dealings , all our information usually comes from a clubs spin doctor who just tells us what he wants you to hear and not necessarily what is actually going on.

Regarding EtoÂ’oÂ’s time at the club. Yes as supporters we thought that we were getting a top quality performer who, nearing the end of his career still showed flashes of his abilities.

What we are now hearing are the supposed disruptive negativity side of him that I.M.O. with all the information that can be recieved, means that the club did not do a very responsible background check on him, as if they did, he should not have been signed.

With the information coming in now that the club did not send some documents over, it is about time someone got on to the lack of professionalism being shown at the club that reflects on Everton F.C.

Tom Magill
167 Posted 27/01/2015 at 14:40:10
I donÂ’t really care about EtoÂ’o leaving, heÂ’s over the hill anyway and IÂ’m sure he couldnÂ’t give a shit about us. See ya later, Sam.

What we need now is for the rest of the lads to knuckle down and work hard to get us out of the hole weÂ’re in. COYB

Barry McNally
168 Posted 27/01/2015 at 16:07:07
Knock, knock.
Who’s there?
Samuel who?
Samuel EtoÂ’o looking for a big signing on fee.
Max Wilson
169 Posted 27/01/2015 at 16:27:13
Er, whereÂ’s his replacement?
Robby Graham
170 Posted 27/01/2015 at 17:16:25
He has just posted a message on twitter thanking the fans and saying how wonderful we all are. hmm.
Neil Wood
171 Posted 27/01/2015 at 17:21:50
Daniel @163.... I concur and have posted so many times we should make him come back whatever it takes.
Barry Stevens
172 Posted 27/01/2015 at 16:57:54
When Eto'o signed for us, we were still harbouring hopes of a top 4 finish with a European place at least being achieved. Now both of them objectives are nigh impossible. I then think the lure of returning to Italy where he still has a home and got married in the summer was too much for him to turn down.

In terms of him being a disruptive figure IÂ’d say due to past episodes people are putting 2 & 2 together and making 5. ThereÂ’s been no indication of this being fact in till news of SampdoriaÂ’s interest became public.

As for how he performed for us IÂ’d say heÂ’s shown the occasional flashes of brilliance. I canÂ’t think of a game heÂ’s been involved in where heÂ’s had a stinker. Will we miss him though? Probably not.

Lee Gorre
173 Posted 27/01/2015 at 17:51:55
I feel the need to have another pop at the manager for his latest gushing, this time reminiscing about the memory of Eto'oÂ’s contribution in Europe. WTF! He scored against Krasnodar away when he along with everyone else on the pitch that night stunk the place out. Other than that, what did he do?

He didnÂ’t play in 2 of the other games, and in the others contributed nothing other than setting up the 4th goal against Wolfsburg. I for one am glad to see the back of someone who we should never have gone near in the first place.

Chris Fisher
174 Posted 27/01/2015 at 18:07:13
What a buzzard waste of time that a was then.
I hope we do get McManaman, 100 times better than McGeady and a bargain at ٣million.
Chris Fisher
175 Posted 27/01/2015 at 18:12:12
Wow I thought predictive text was supposed to be intelligent! I wrote bizzare and it turned it into buzzard? That is bizzare!!
Will Leaf
176 Posted 27/01/2015 at 18:22:00
Chris, I assumed you had just read "A Spaniard In The Works".
Ian Jones
177 Posted 27/01/2015 at 18:25:19
To Max @ 171.

Â’HipÂ’ springs to mind

Ian Brandes
178 Posted 27/01/2015 at 19:13:06
This saga has been an utter farce, reflecting badly upon our beloved club If he has been a disruptive influence in the dressing room, why was that? Might he have been concerned about the way our season has disintegrated?

I, for one, would NOT criticise a senior player, trying to inject some life into a demoralised, dispirited group of players via his often criticised on-field pep talk.

Anyway he has gone now, so that is that. Unfortunately that leaves us with a Mr Â’Facing All WaysÂ’ manager and I have ceased to believe one phenomenal word he says.

To me, it is now Palace or bust! The wrong result means he should be history, but it probably wonÂ’t. We may have to wait for a humiliation at the hands of the worst RS side in many a year.

Hopefully Roberto can prove me wrong with a spanking victory at Palace, and an equally impressive Derby win.

If both those things occur, I would be more than happy to eat my words.


Phil Walling
179 Posted 27/01/2015 at 19:36:23
Chris @ 176. FFS! Why not sign the whole Wigan squad? After all they did win the FA Cup in 2013 so they must have been ace.

So fecking ace that the ones not here look like playing in League One next season!

Surely, even BKÂ’s not daft enough to drop any more money in Cup Final DaveÂ’s pocket! Is he?

Colin Glassar
180 Posted 27/01/2015 at 19:54:25
Only your pal Emerson Boyce is left from that team, Phil. Is he any good?
Phil Walling
181 Posted 27/01/2015 at 19:57:56
No idea, Colin. But I hear even Foreshaw walked out on them. Now he might have been a good signing for us – we’ve kept worse!
Colin Gee
182 Posted 27/01/2015 at 20:20:35
Phil #181 Would that we be Wigan team that embarrassed us 3-0 in the Quarter Finals and made us look like it was a bunch of schoolboys playing for us and managed by a certain Roberto Martinez?

One of the worst Everton Â’displaysÂ’ I have ever had the misfortune to watch and thereÂ’s been some bad ones over the years!

Now will the real Roberto Martinez please stand up! Is it the one that got his team to play us off the park that day with some wonderful attacking football, or is it the one we have seen this season that has to play 4-2-3-1 that has to pass the ball around the 18 yard box 10 times and the one that turned out such shite performances in the last 13 or so games.

Andy Crooks
183 Posted 27/01/2015 at 20:20:20
The signing of this player, the way he was played out of position, the rumours of his alleged malign influence, the managers comments before his departure have been a sad indictment of the club and our current bewildered and beleaguered coach.
Pete Edwards
184 Posted 27/01/2015 at 20:18:00
Yeh, let’s believe the Sampdoria chairman cos heÂ’s never been involved in football before and wouldn’t want to be showing his team’s fans he doesn’t know what heÂ’s doing, would he!!

Maybe there is truth in the rumours that EtoÂ’o was disruptive so why not piss him and his agent off a little by slowing down the transfer?

He’s gone so maybe we should concentrate on the players who are still here – and by that, I mean support them.

Michael Winstanley
185 Posted 27/01/2015 at 20:07:35
Foreshaw, him with the left foot?
James Stewart
186 Posted 27/01/2015 at 20:34:01
McManaman was the only player I wanted us to sign from Wigan when we appointed Martinez who chose to sign everyone but him.
Phil Walling
187 Posted 27/01/2015 at 20:33:26
Yes, Colin, same Wigan, of course. So impressed was BK that he signed their relegated manager, half a dozen of his valued staff and nearly half his team.

Lucky, lucky Everton !

Colin Glassar
188 Posted 27/01/2015 at 20:36:50
Remember peg leg Dave said they could all leave James, but for his asking price. He probably wanted a barrow full for macmanaman.
Pete Edwards
189 Posted 27/01/2015 at 20:37:13
Phil, I take it Wigan only played with 7 or 8 then if we signed nearly half his team!!
Ian Brandes
190 Posted 27/01/2015 at 20:44:32
If we give Cup Final Dave (as PW called him) any money, then hereÂ’s what he should do, and I will be crucified for saying this.

He should sign Bristol Rovers on-loan front man Matt Smith because:

1) Smith holds the ball up and distributes it far better than our own Big Rom.

2) He wins most of the high balls unlike our Big Rom.

3) Furthermore , he is the kind of front man who roughs defenders up – again unlike our 㿈 million man.

But if we were to sign him, he should play up-front with Lukaku, who might then have a much better chance of scoring goals, once someone with fire in his belly actually helps out where he is needed.

It might all be a return to Route One footie, but, if we win, who cares? I would rather we became the PLÂ’s 1-0 specialists than what is happening this season.

Anyway I will jump back into my trench now – still sheltered by fond memories of how Mr Smith dumped the RS out of the FA Cup in the not too distant past!

Andrew Ellams
191 Posted 27/01/2015 at 20:58:39
Ian Brandes, the same Matt Smith that failed at Leeds. Never in a million years is he a Premier Leaueg player, we would become a laughing stock
Sam Rangle
192 Posted 27/01/2015 at 21:20:33
If EtoÂ’o was/is such a prick, and everyone on here is a behavioral expert, why the fuck did we sign him?? Did the executives of EFC not know what we the fans did? Highly doubtful. History on TW is very blurry as most if not all of us weÂ’re literally singing his name...

HereÂ’s a thought, maybe he wouldnÂ’t have been such a prick if we a) played with proper tactics and b) played him in the position heÂ’s played his ENTIRE CAREER.

Ian Brandes
193 Posted 27/01/2015 at 21:49:12

We are a laughing stock already, would Smith make us worse? At least he has some fighting spirit, sadly lacking in our lads in the past few matches.

Look at his performance against West Ham, when Carroll, who elbowed us out of our Cup Tie, was on the receiving end.

YouÂ’re probably right, and I am probably wrong. Maybe itÂ’s just desperation on my part, but I am clutching at straws!!!

James Stewart
194 Posted 27/01/2015 at 22:27:29
Colin (#190), you may be right after the Cup Final Wigan should have sold him as his price would have been higher. But he surely wouldnÂ’t have cost more than Robles, Alcaraz, Kone in fees and combined wages? 3 utterly useless signings in my opinion. Kone wouldnÂ’t have been signed had we known we were getting Lukaku on loan though I suspect.
Colin Glassar
195 Posted 27/01/2015 at 22:34:53
And I thought people were starting to warm towards Robles, James.
Lee Gorre
196 Posted 27/01/2015 at 22:22:03
I can’t see what value there would be in signing a player who couldn’t cut it in the Championship and has now been farmed out a league lower – Bristol City not Rovers. And he looked way out of his depth in the cup against West Ham on Sunday.

This is a crazy suggestion.

Ian Brandes
202 Posted 27/01/2015 at 23:24:41
Lee 198,

Thanks for correction re Bristol City, just a slip.

Anyway I watched the game, and far from being out of his depth, it took two top class clearances from WHU to deny him goals.

At this present time, Smith would have scored them against us!

Good Night all, hope we can buck the trend and beat Palace this Saturday.

Andy Mack
203 Posted 27/01/2015 at 23:55:52
So we can now officially rub our eyes, yawn, and wake from our strange slumber, where we dreamt that Sammy Eto'o played for us, and it is afterall only late July and a promising season lies ahead... Good lord, we're 250/1 to be relegated... tempting odds.
Sean McCarthy
204 Posted 27/01/2015 at 23:58:18
Matt Smith? Seriously?!

I assumed you meant the one just released by ITV Sport and not some cart horse from League One!

Have we sunk that low?

Nicholas Ryan
205 Posted 28/01/2015 at 00:04:48
Does this mean we'll have to remove the advertising hoarding halfway up the Main Stand, that says: 'Eto'o Jeans'?!
Ross Edwards
206 Posted 28/01/2015 at 00:06:58
Well, according to the back page of tomorrow's Echo, Martinez has said that he is not looking for a replacement for Eto'o.

He is essentially happy to go through the season relying on just Lukaku and Kone. He's like a phenomenal new signing isn't he? I forgot.

Bill's bullshitting mouthpiece. My support for Martinez is slowly ebbing further away. Honestly, if we wanted, we could all make up our own version of a Martinez press conference, make up all sorts of incredibly, phenomenally amazing rubbish and no one would tell the difference.

He spouts so much shite it's unreal. The fans are seeing past the bullshit. Surely the players have by now as well. How can anyone, fan, player, journo, possibly take this man seriously anymore?

I can't. I cannot listen or watch any of his interviews anymore because it's full of positivity propaganda crap all the time.

If we are indeed really dependent on just 2 strikers, if we lose one of them we're fucked. The squad is already meagre enough now Eto'o has left.

Eric Myles
207 Posted 28/01/2015 at 00:57:43
Ross, we've also got Mirallas and Naismith as strikers, although they are usually played out of position.
Bob Heyward
208 Posted 28/01/2015 at 02:41:50
Go on Ross! Hitting the nail on the head, yet again!
James Flynn
209 Posted 28/01/2015 at 00:55:34
Never thought a fellow in the Club for a few months could generate a thread this long. Likely, the team form will improve dramatically now that boil's been lanced.

A guy, Eto'o, Mourinho brought into Chelsea last season four years after he bought him into Inter, is now a disruptive force at Finch Farm? Food for thought.

As far as Eto'o talking to players about moving on? What does anyone think players talk about? Money. Income. Multi-millions of it. We've seen, right in here, TWers worrying about Barkley playing for the England side and getting his ear filled by teammates earning his income times 10.

Sorry, if Mourinho signed him on years after managing him in Italy, that does it for me.

Here's another. How come there's not a peep negative about the guy until the club understands he wants to go? All of a sudden, things from nowhere appear about how negative an influence the player is? Huh?

And another, since I've come this far. Eto'o bangs in 30 goals for a manager who wants him gone and Messi himself on the same team. Disruptive how? Oh, disruptive meaning Pep cleansing Barcelona of negroes, Eto'o not the only one? Fair enough. Carry on.

Also settles if Pep will ever manage in the Prem, doesn't it.

Matt Traynor
210 Posted 28/01/2015 at 03:29:51
James (#213), I can't recall where the quote was, but I'm sure RM said that we'd be motoring in February, or words to that effect. I'm sure his strategy was to keep a small squad ticking over ready to hit peak form in the last 3.5 months, for the later rounds of the cups, and the push for 4th.

Dunno if anyone else remembers him saying this, it may have been lost in all the other crap he's spouted.

Paul Ferry
211 Posted 28/01/2015 at 04:02:33
Matt - 214 - you’re absolutely right. Bobby said that back in November mate, and we are gonna be bouncing in seven days!
Peter Barry
212 Posted 28/01/2015 at 05:17:58
If your Manager and his backroom staff and five of your players are all ex-Wigan then you can't expect to play like Barcelona but you can expect to play like Wigan – and we are.
Kevin Elliott
213 Posted 28/01/2015 at 07:34:20
Maybe they should have sacked Martinez and given the job to Sam. He was probably the only one talking any sense in the dressing room and the players were siding with him.
Michael Polley
214 Posted 28/01/2015 at 08:52:28
Mercenary. One last big pay day before he hangs up his boots. He wasn't a great a impact for us although not playing in the right position probably didn't help.
Ross Edwards
215 Posted 28/01/2015 at 08:49:07
Square pegs Eric. It used to be a regular criticism I used against Moyes. But with Martinez I don't think he knows what his best team is yet. And we're nearly in February.

He should pick the best team to play in his 'phenomenal philosophy' rather than getting 11 players and just throwing them into random places.

It's not difficult is it? If Barkley is a CM, play him there. Don't play him out on the wing where he hardly does anything. If you have Eto'o on the bench, don't play him out on the wing or whatever position he stuck him.

It's simple management. It's literally one of the first things you do on Football Manager. Get a spine, play them in their favoured positions etc. Football is a simple game. Don't complicate it by sticking players in any old players and try and look clever.

I know we've had injuries to most of our key players but some of his decisions tactically have been shocking.

Paul Tran
216 Posted 30/01/2015 at 21:19:29
It may be true that Eto'o is an arrogant so-and-so, but he's been there, seen it and done it. I can't get away from my hunch that he's took one look at Martinez and made his mind up. And that tells me more than anything else on this matter.
Phil Roberts
217 Posted 05/02/2015 at 00:37:20

Well that didn't last long. Pity we didn't get a fee now. Especially after Kanchelskis.

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