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Lukaku ambitious to get back to the 'top'

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Striker also admits difficulties with father's illness
Romelu Lukaku has revealed his ambition of moving back to a 'top club' at some point after getting what he described as a good reception from his former club, Chelsea, in midweek.

The 21-year-old made a 28M move from Stamford Bridge to Goodison Park over the summer after spending the 2013-14 season with Everton on loan and Wednesday's narrow 1-0 defeat at the hands of the Premier League leaders was Lukaku's first chance to play on his former stomping ground.

In comments attributed to him by The Sun newspaper today from an interview with Sporting Telenet in Belgium [Google translate version], the 21 year-old signalled his desire to get back to that level.

It was brilliant to play at Chelsea and I had a good reception.

They know I'm a good player but that I want to develop so I can eventually get back to playing for a club like Chelsea.

I don't have a secret ambition to rejoin — there are other clubs in the world. I just want to grow as a player and eventually arrive at a top club again.

Lukaku's comments, published under an anonymous byline on the tabloid's website, have, predictably, caused a stir among Evertonians at a time when the Blues' fortunes have nose-dived in Roberto Martinez's second season in charge but haven't wavered in their ambition from similar assertions he made last summer before the signed for the Blues.

The Belgian scored 15 times last season and is on course to equal or better that tally but Everton have seen their Champions League, League Cup and FA Cup hopes extinguished early. Their last avenue of success — and an opportunity to quickly take Lukaku back to level to which he aspires — is the Europa League which resumes next Thursday when Martinez's men travel to Switzerland to face Young Boys in the round of 32.

Further comments by Lukaku in Sport Wereld suggest that personal issues related to his father's illness might also be affecting his recent form.

Lukaku senior, a one-time international footballer for Zaire, has been battling ill-health since last summer and has not been able to travel to watch and support his son since he moved to Goodison.

"In addition to the injuries there were some private matters," the former Anderlecht man said. "My father has been ill for a long time. Many people don't know that. Just before the World Cup, he was urgently admitted to the hospital.

"The trainer knew it, because I told him. I could not keep lying. Normally he would follow me to Brazil. He couldn't go. Since then he has still not even been to England to attend a match. Football is my only way to get out all frustrations.

"My father was my first coach. He is my mentor. If something happens to your father, football comes in second place. I will not tell you what he just had. It's still difficult. With ups and downs."

Quotes sourced from The Sun via Liverpool Echo


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Mohammed Horoub
1 Posted 12/02/2015 at 22:38:14
Nice comments for anyone still defending this lump.
㿈 million could have bought us a lot of loyal players instead Martinez has tied his future to a player who can’t put the ball away from 4 yards out.
Zaid Omar
2 Posted 13/02/2015 at 08:58:01
Headline on Skysports ... "Lukaku wants top club" - what an embarrassment for the club. Our record signing wants to ditch the club within a year of signing.. Even though he has turned out to be shit, it just shows the clubs fall from grace over the last 6 months.. Wonder what these statements do for team spirit???!!! Can’t be a happy camp.
Nick Page
3 Posted 13/02/2015 at 09:05:43
Also reported here:
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/557948/Romelu-Lukaku-quit-Everton-Chelsea.

Cheeky fucking get

Dave Lynch
4 Posted 13/02/2015 at 09:06:24
Lukaku can go anywhere in the world with my blessing.

He is shite, end of story.

James Hughes
5 Posted 13/02/2015 at 09:03:49
Zaid #40 I have just read the same thing on BBC gossip page.

Do you think we can get 㿔m for him, hope all the clubs are forming an orderly queue for him and Mirralas.

On a serious note I would be unhappy if he left as I think he is getting better.

Sam Hoare
7 Posted 13/02/2015 at 09:24:24
Oh dear, Lukaku. What a silly thing to say. Not like you’re setting the Premier League alight anyway. Think some flak may be coming your way.

I wonder how much we would be able to sell him for? I reckon 㿀M maximum. Martinez overpaid seriously last Summer at the cost of boosting the squad in other needed areas.

Andrew Ellams
8 Posted 13/02/2015 at 09:31:58
I’m not sure Lukaku will be the only one of our young stars with eyes on the exit come the summer. Somethimg drastic needs to be done to stop these guys moving on because I’m not sure that we are in a position to survive a major rebuild next year.
Phil Sammon
9 Posted 13/02/2015 at 09:51:41
I’ve got to see these Lukaku comments before we start commenting. It’s just too ridiculous to be true.
Paul Smith
10 Posted 13/02/2015 at 09:49:59
Rom’s comments are building in momentum and being reported in various sources.

The guy is in denial. He has been shite this season and looks to be deflecting blame towards Everton rather than himself. I’d rather him go and Kev stay.

Dominic Tonge
11 Posted 13/02/2015 at 10:23:26
You wish you played for a top club? I wish I fucking supported one.....

At least you get paid for it, you cheeky Belgian scamp.

Robby Graham
12 Posted 13/02/2015 at 10:34:02
Wow, just read them quotes from him, if they’re true, then he needs to be dropped and never play for this club again. I just hope he hasn’t said them.
Philip Bunting
13 Posted 13/02/2015 at 10:52:34
Martinez needs to get a grip on the dressing room by the sounds of this season. Two many big time charlies with inflated egos and ever increasing paypackets. I dare say under Moyes itÂ’s doubtful the players would speak out, now we have players from Garbutt, Mirallas, now Lukaku not to mention EtoÂ’o all adding to a shit season. Grow a pair Martinez and sort out the dressing room.
Steve Woods
14 Posted 13/02/2015 at 11:20:21
Apparently Martinez encourages the players to freely express themselves. It seems that too many of them choose to do that on social media rather than on the pitch come match day.
Chris Gould
15 Posted 13/02/2015 at 12:41:05
Nick Page – if he really said that then he is dead to me!!!! Fucking useless gobshite.
Brian Harrison
16 Posted 13/02/2015 at 12:57:31
Well there must be a bit of truth in the Lukaku comments as Dave Prentice from the Liverpool Echo is rightly having a go at him. I take a different view this is possibly the best news we have had all season.

Lukaku is quoted as saying he wants to play for a big club again, and we can all remember the huge number of clubs wanting to sign him in the summer, us and Wolfsberg. Mind his phenomenal form this season will no doubt attract a whole host of clubs wanting a big man with a good first touch, hard to shake of the ball and an incredible goal scorer.

Joe Foster
17 Posted 13/02/2015 at 13:45:14
I think this is to be expected. He joined us thinking we where a top 5/6, possible top 4 club. Now, after the football philosophies have made us mid-table to relegation-style club, he is not the first and probably wonÂ’t be the last. Cheers, RM.
Ian Burns
18 Posted 13/02/2015 at 13:49:51
We can put that down to RM – he has no idea how to coach the lad; his defensive structures are borne of complaints from the players and it leaves him with little attacking options because, quite frankly, I genuinely think he is out of his depth.

This is nothing personal as he is very likeable, he is just not a PL manager and certainly not an EFC manager.

Maybe we will get 𧴜M for him?

Neil Gribbin
19 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:15:31
Lukaku... you cheeky, cheeky shitebag. You have been woeful all season... if that is your attitude, do one
Scott Hamilton
21 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:31:06
CanÂ’t control the ball.

DoesnÂ’t seem to understand the off-side rule.

CanÂ’t hit a barn door.

...Yours for 㿊m!!!

Sean Kelly
22 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:33:02
Just read the Lukaku comments. What an arrogant prick. Fuck off so and take your mate Mirallas with you. Neither of you have set the world on fire and letÂ’s see how many Championship teams come in for them.

WhatÂ’s with these two moody twats insulting OUR club.

Bob Heyward
23 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:25:00
All the Martinez chickens coming home to roost; Kevin, RomÂ’ and Luke, all looking wobbly. Add to that McCarthy, plus possible bids for Seamus and Stones, and weÂ’re looking at a very challenging summer 2015.

ThereÂ’s no dressing this up. These are good players that only 6-months ago were being touted, by all, as the future of the Club. How did we get here? Unrealised expectations, sown by Martinez and harvested by the same manÂ’s apparent season-long ineptitude.

Will the last 14 games provide a foundation to turn this around? Doubtful, after all we seem to have just about realised that we need to defend. If weÂ’re parking the bus, what opportunity is there to impress our attacking-minded players to stay? The Europa is the only possibility, but we would have to win it...a long shot as we start to face stronger, more motivated teams in that competition.

All in all, weÂ’re going to reap the whirlwind of not getting rid of Martnez sooner. A ruthless approach would have set up a platform to succeed in the second half of the season, meeting the expectations of our best players while creating a positive background to move forward.

Clive Mitchell
24 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:29:56
On one level, yes Romelu, entirely understandable and rational, and I share your goal because if youÂ’re to join what you call a top club weÂ’ll be getting more than our money back and youÂ’ll have been outstanding - Drogba-like,rather than Lukaku-like - for us for at least six months.

But at another level this confirms what my son said to me the other day: our key problem is the lack of discipline at the club, and rather than being the Â’naiveÂ’ interview that some will excuse this as, it demonstrates that the players have no fear and no respect; sadly, that has to be put down to the manager and his team.

Denis Richardson
25 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:39:13
Offer spurs a Belgian package in the summer - Mirallas & Lukaku combined for 40m.

Gavin Johnson
26 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:26:57
What a weapon! HeÂ’s going to lose a lot of the good will from a large contingent of Evertonians who have continued to offer him support in his patchy form.

HeÂ’s clearly deluded if he thinks heÂ’ll play for a club supposedly Â’biggerÂ’ than Everton, especially on this seasons form. IÂ’m actually shocked by this. IÂ’d expect it from Mirallas, but than again they do share the same agent.

This is sadly indicative of the modern game. He should be put up for sale in the summer and when nobody meets the asking price he might get a reality check and realise that although he might be amongst the best at running with the ball, a true world class striker has more facets to their game, and doesnÂ’t have the first touch of a journeyman lower league player.

David Hallwood
27 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:43:12
That came from the Sun so it must be true; they always tell the truth about scousers yÂ’know.
Stephen Jones
28 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:44:38
Romelu, when you eventually can:
- control a pass
- shield the ball
- pass the ball
- head a ball
- tackle
- close down the opposition
- run for 90 minutes
- score 20+ goals per season
Then your wish may be fulfilled....
Terence Tipler
29 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:42:28
Average player, bigger than average gob.
James Richard
31 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:45:45
To play for a "top" club Rom you have to be a top player. YouÂ’re so far from a top player its rediculous. A fully fit Anichebe has better hold up and back to goal play than you. Sorry but I despise these players who see us as a stepping stone.
Bill Gall
32 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:29:17
For these comments he is going to recieve a lot of deserved critism . But why donÂ’t we look at what he is saying and put the blame for the lack of ambition in the club were it is deserved and that is at the feet of B.K and his incompetant board.

Since they took over the club they have only offered promises that they never fullfilled ,run the club in the now and not looked at the future , failed to find a buyer for the club when other clubs had no problem and failed to back a manager at critical times.

The efforts in the community and various charities are to be commended and it is nice to read comments of how well the social side of the club is run .The problem is it is what those 11 players do on the pitch that matters to the 35000--40000 people that pay to watch , and that is what they should be getting the media praise for.

People when they read or watch football donÂ’t look at what goes on off the pitch at the Utd,, City,s or other championship cup teams they look at the players on the pitch and that is what represents the club . This is the area that B.K and his inept board are failing Everton.

Sid Logan
33 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:54:32
Whatever way you dress this up and regardless of how theyÂ’re performing as players this makes pretty grim reading for supporters. First Mirralas now Lukaku both looking to get out.

What does it say about how things are at the club. No doubt thereÂ’ll be plenty whoÂ’ll try to put a positive spin on this but as far as IÂ’m concerned it speaks volumes about the players faith in the manager longer term. FFS itÂ’s only LukakuÂ’s second season with us!

Steven Telford
34 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:52:58
The malaise is setting in, itÂ’s very sad to see our "statement of intent" begin to lose itÂ’s fizz.

I still think he is a great player with great potential.

Now, the cause for concern is how long before others join the "intention exodus", Last week KM, now him.
And the root problem is that "player ambition" is incompatible with MartinezÂ’s piss poor tactics.

Unless something fundamental changes, we are going to see the best squad of individuates we have had in ages drift off. ItÂ’s scarcely an exaggeration to say that the club is edging towards crisis. Act now, or have a larger mess to clean up. And by that I donÂ’t (necessarily) mean fire Martinez, but....... he is surely close to being on borrowed time.

John Gee
35 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:41:51
These players are mercenary idiots and IÂ’m sick of them disrespecting our club. As I said about that other Belgian, if he doesnÂ’t want to be here then he should buy out his contract and piss off.

Every utterance from these cretins pushes me further to the point where I canÂ’t find it in myself to support them any more. I hope they leave in the summer.

Sondre Haga
36 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:53:30
I choose to ignore this. Another shit tabloid story, I hope. If not, he can just fuck off. I expect the club make an announcement soon that this is not true.
Stephen Daniels
37 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:07:25
Guys, you have to realise that the way we are playing it’s not just the Belgium pair – Coleman will be off in the summer and McCarthy has been moaning about his contract. I fear a massive rebuilding job in the summer and I don’t trust Martinez to do that... do you?
Sid Logan
38 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:08:15
John #33

YouÂ’re right these player are idiots, disrespectful and perhaps self delusional about theyÂ’re own worth.

But these things alone do not answer the question of why they feel itÂ’s fine to speak out. For me, I said above, is telling us something about their faith in Martinez.

Paul Thompson
39 Posted 13/02/2015 at 14:58:35
We need Lukaku to bang the goals in for the rest of the season. That means playing to his strengths - passes in front of him and balls cut back from the by-line. Getting on his back for comments that were probably taken out of context and given an anti-Everton spin by he Sun and others will do neither him not us any good.
Trevor Peers
40 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:08:00
Makes you laugh saying they want to be at a Big club, when he was at a Big club (Chelsea) he was on the bench. If he was anything more than just an average striker Real Madrid would be in for him.

I think their agents constantly unsettle these young players always angling for a slice of any transfer fee, itÂ’s a big problem in modern football and will probably get worse with the new Sky deal.

Luke Welch
41 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:12:04
It does seem some rot has managed to creep into the ranks of Everton and has definitely set! There also seems to be quite a few disillusioned players throwing their toys out the pram, because expectations have been nowhere near meet this season.

I honestly think the manger is out of his depth, and the players he bought, with his positive spin and the change from down the back of BillÂ’s sofa, are starting to twig! The bubble of last year has definitely burst!

Stephen Jones
42 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:19:45
Hey Rom try the wookey hollow now that was a BIG club, cheeky fecker canÂ’t trap a bag of cement , never looks across the line hence nearly always offside as he canÂ’t be arsed to get back after the attack breaks down?
Funny this come after his bessy mate Kevin says the same thing well lads I have news for you wherever you want to go I will start a collection among all the true blues to pay your fares bye bye
Anthony Burke
43 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:24:30
IÂ’m a Lukaku fan, so I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

ItÂ’s probably been blown out of proportion, there is always two sides to a story. If true, get rid; if not, stand by him. COYB!!!

Brian Hennessy
44 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:21:26
What an idiot. Is it me or have these type of comments become much more frequent under RM.

I could be wrong but I could never imagine players speaking like this under Moyes.

For the record if we could get backwhat we paid for him I would take it in a flash.

Good finisher but thatÂ’s about it, the rest of his overall play is just way too poor and his lack of effort was highlighted with him putting in more effort than usual against his former team Chelsea, than he shows most weeks of the season.

Anthony Hughes
45 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:23:23
If he has said this things then itÂ’s a totally disregard of the fans of our club. He must know by coming out with shit like that then heÂ’s going to come under fire from the supporters.

Are these footballers really that thick or do they just not give a fuck? (Probably both).

Jim Knightley
46 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:18:15
Lukaku is clearly an extremely talented player. He is being utterly miss-used in a style which clearly does not suit him, or the majority of the team. His use is in the goals he scored for us the season before when we more effectively melded passing and direct football, and in the goals he scored for West Brom (17? in the league), despite being a substitute for some of the season.

But this is fucking idiotic, and has come at completely the wrong time. I honestly do not blame him for thinking it: We are piss poor this season, and we are not playing in a way that he enjoys. But how can he come out and say it, less than a year after signing? ItÂ’s a horrible kick in the bollocks, and he needs to make a swift apology, in which he states his intention to bring Everton back to where they belong.

Ultimately the realisation of his and MirallasÂ’ ambitious rest on the realisation of our own. If Mirallas puts in a series of big performances in the league, and the Europa League, along with Lukaku, then their success will be our success. Mirallas will likely be gone in the summer, and I think we will be vulnerable to Lukaku leaving when he has a top scoring season, unless we start moving in the right direction as a club. Martinez is not to blame for everything, but this stuff is happening during his watch, and is clearly a reflection of the problems created in part by his decisions, and playing style. I predict that an Everton side fighting for the UCL spots this season, even if we were not realistically going to get into the top 4 with Europa League and a lack of creativity, would not be hearing such comments from its personnel.

Neil Pickering
47 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:29:48
Please god let this be true. I would take half of what we paid for this fucking donkey and count my blessings.
James Martin
48 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:26:54
People should watch clips of YakubuÂ’s goals in 2007-08 for us. That was a class striker, touch, strength, skill, could finish with his head and both feet from inside and outside the box. Travesty when he got injured and Moyes sold him (where he went and buried 17 for Blackburn!)

Lukaku scores one type of goal, the tap in from a pull back. He is useless in the air, useless outside the box and if he manages to get a second touch the attack is almost definitely over. Waste of money.

He may become a world beater at some point bit I canÂ’t see even grains of hidden technique there to be a top player. When he arrived he seemed to have everything but laziness has just brought a lethargy to his entire game.

David Harrison
49 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:29:57
Hope this isnÂ’t true but as a few others have commented it didnÂ’t happen under Moyes and illustrates what a lack of togetherness is in the squad. We seemed immune from the feckless attitudes pervading modern day football but it seems to have finally caught up with us. Maybe Martinez thinks the same way. It certainly doesnÂ’t encourage me to shell out any more on match tickets, merchandise or sky subscriptions. Feeling very close to chucking the whole bandwagon away
Nick Entwistle
50 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:22:01
Mirallas is a different case. HeÂ’s been here a good number of years; Lukaku has not, is 27 compared to 21, and with only two more transfer windows to get a fee.

Lukaku, keep shtum!

But he knows, and we know, that 4th isnÂ’t happening. Next season or the year after. The importance of the upcoming Europa League game goes way beyond simply winning a trophy. The Champions League will keep players, bring better options in. The paradox is that it will save Martinez his job... maybe it can stop the trend of him taking clubs into forever lower positions.

Nick Entwistle
51 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:38:41
It didnÂ’t happen often under Moyes because he never had CL style money to spend, though Pienaar and Fellaini all stated their desire for CL.
Andrew Clare
52 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:23:44
If true, never play him again. That goes for Mirallas as well. Off-load in the summer along with any other hangers-on.
Eric Myles
53 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:38:41
DonÂ’t let the door hit you in the arse on the way out lad.

Until you can learn how to control a ball better than me, you donÂ’t deserve to be on the pitch.

Phil Walling
54 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:42:13
I wonder why so many of our players want to get out of Goodison. I have NEVER known a situation like it before.

Could it be anything to do with their disaffection with the present manager or is that just my Â’paranoiaÂ’ about the Catalan showing again ?

Brian Harrison
55 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:33:58
Jim Knightley

you say "Lukaku is clearly an extremely talented player"

I can only think you must not have watched the same player as I have been watching. Jose Mourhino knew he wasnt up to the task and was happy to offload him especially for the unbelievable fee we paid for him. Even the Belgium national coach saw through him at the World Cup and picked Origi ahead of him, and he looks far better and only cost Liverpool 㾶 million. So I think I will agree with the views of Jose and the Belgium coach Lukaku is not an extremely talented player, otherwise he would still be at Chelsea. Mourhino actually preferred 36 year old Drogba to Lukaku.

Xavier Spencer
56 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:47:07
Time for RM to man up and show some leadership and fine this fucking gobshite two weeks wages. Having said that if he were to fuck off and we were to get 㿀 million I would count it as a lucky escape. My worry is when players like Stones and McCarthy begin to get their heads turned.
Brian Harrison
57 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:49:41
I wonder how long it will be before the happy clappy Spaniard tells us that Lukaku was misquoted.
Paul Dark
58 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:51:02
I really like rom as a player, but these comments are depressing. They are ill-advised and Martinez needs to have a word. He wonÂ’t ... maybe Roberto feels the same?

To me, we are a bigger club than Chelsea, but I appreciate Rom not getting that. Still, the comments are inappropriate and unhelpful in the extreme. In his defence, I guess heÂ’s frustrated, but he is earning 70k a week ... from this small club.

Kevin Rowlands
59 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:39:05
㿈 million? You must be joking, his second touch is ALWAYS a frigging tackle!

Anichebe is a better player when his headÂ’s right.

Ian Jones
60 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:57:10
I will give a positive spin on this.

Lukaku will now decide that he needs to play better as he is after a new lucrative contract with a top club where he can ply his trade sitting on the bench....that should be worth watching.

David Barks
61 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:57:20
Mirallas wants to leave. Lukaku wants to leave. Garbutt wonÂ’t sign a contract. Oviedo rumoured to want to leave. EtoÂ’o did get out after 6 months. You all seeing a trend there?

People blaming Lukaku for being poor this season, HE HASNÂ’T HAD ANY FUCKING SERVICE!! The story of our season has been sideways and backward passing between Barry, McCarthy, Jagielka and Howard.

Kevin Tully
62 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:57:28
I expect a Â’clarificationÂ’ to appear shortly (penned by his agent).

Just keep your trap shut, Rom. This is not the right time to be talking about moving anywhere. We (Everton) have given you a starring role at our club and you have been average at best so far.

Jim Bennings
63 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:50:55
So Romelu wants to join "a top club" does he?

Well let us know how you get on with that one Rom.

Frankly in hindsight we would have been better off with Peter Crouch up front or Danny Ings with Jon Walters as back-up, at least youÂ’d get 100% effort week in week out out of these guyÂ’s.

LetÂ’s be honest anyway, Lukaku does not suit the style of play here at Everton. Why persist with a guy who looks like the simple task of holding a ball up is virtually impossible?

Lukaku has scored a meagre two league goals since December 1st, a perfect example of player and club not being suited.

Sorry Rom but if we have to sell a player for a biggish fee this summer if rather it be you than Coleman or even Barkley for that matter.

There are better strikers out there than Lukaku that we could possibly get to Everton.

As I mention, has he outperformed Danny Ings this season? Or Peter Crouch? Or for that matter even Jelavic or the likes of Cisse at Newcastle.? Not really has he?

Very replaceable, in my opinion.

Tony McNulty
64 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:59:40
This may well be media mischief-making. Would a player actually be so misguided as to make these comments?

At his best, I am sure most of us quite like Lukaku, though he needs to put in some work on the training ground so that muscle memory eventually emerges when he goes to trap the ball.

Nevertheless on his current form we would be very lucky to get 㿈m so we now need to big him up as much as possible in case anyone is spying on ToffeeWeb.

Wonderful player. A steal at 𧴜 million.

Colin Williams
65 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:38:03
This so-called (shite) footballer should "thank god" he was given the opportunity to play for this truly.... great club! I’ve always said the guy’s gash – a total waste.

I said, just before we bought this clown, that heÂ’s not an Everton type player and certainly not worth a third what we paid for him! Great buy.. Martinez... NOT!!!

Play Kone up front till the end of the season – then sell the waste of space to the RS – they deserve him... let the shite float together!

Rob Burns
66 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:09:13
If itÂ’s true then goodbye and take the other deluded Belgian with you.
Anthony Hughes
67 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:07:08
By the way, Lukaku, what bigger club would this be by the way? None of the top teams in England need you has they already have better strikers, Real Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern Munich? I donÂ’t think so mate.

Get kicking that ball against the wall and practice controlling the rebound before you gob off about "bigger clubs".

Alan Bodell
68 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:10:27
Had to check my dates as when I read what the lump said – I thought it must be April 1st.

If true, then he can fuck off on a free for me, we wonÂ’t have lost anything more than a disgruntled dressing room. And if not true, then Duncan needs to Â’have a wordÂ’ to his trainee to play a little better than a Conference striker.

What is it with these arrogant Dutch and Belgium players?

John Daley
69 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:49:20
"Mirallas is a different case. HeÂ’s been here a good number of years, Lukaku has not"

If you include LukakuÂ’s season on loan from Chelsea then Mirallas has only been here an extra year, Nick. ItÂ’s not like heÂ’s earnt any extra leeway, or deserves more understanding from the fans, due to him being a damn good servant is it?

The only way in which his is Â’a different caseÂ’ is that he came out and explicitly stated heÂ’s considering his future right here, right now. Lukaku, on the other hand, seems to be talking vaguely of his future aspirations. HeÂ’s not saying heÂ’s looking to move on from Everton at the end of the season, if they fail to win the Europa league, like his compatriot did. Which is a fucking good job considering he looks like heÂ’s been playing with concussion most of the season and has been offside more often than Stephen HawkingÂ’s sight line.

If heÂ’d been banging goals in week after week then I wouldnÂ’t really have a problem with him restating his ambition to, one day, be amongst the best. The fact heÂ’s chosen to do it now, at a time when his performances have been pretty much turgid and his manager and match going fans have stuck by him and defended him against his detractors, just makes him look like a laughable dick with delusions of grandeur.

The only aspect of his performance the other night that would have made Chelsea fans sit up and take notice of what theyÂ’re now missing out on was the two fucking sitters he failed to slot.

Gavin Johnson
70 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:05:45
David #61, You are right that Rom hasnÂ’t had the service for a large proportion of the season, but you have to admit there are areas of his game that donÂ’t command the 㿈M fee, like the woeful first touch, not being able to head the ball and not using his physique to hold the ball up.

That said, he is second to none at the things heÂ’s good at, and I donÂ’t think 㿈M isnÂ’t really that much based on his age and scoring record. ItÂ’s just about 㾶M too much for Everton to have spent.

Eric Myles
71 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:08:40
Jim #63, but weÂ’re not likely to get a big fee for him based on form this season, and heÂ’s just as unlikely to attract the attention of a Â’bigÂ’ club on this form.
Eugene Ruane
72 Posted 13/02/2015 at 15:59:38
They really are children.

I mean JEEEESUS, however dumb they are, you would imagine that they would at least have the mental wherewithal to think Â’Actually, probably best to keep that to myselfÂ’Â’

But no - a dumb thought goes through pea-brain and the pea-brain suggests "BLURT IT OUT LAD!!" and...here we are.

When I was 5, my dad would take me and my (late) brother to the Pier Head on Sunday mornings, while our (bland, taste-free) Sunday dinner was being prepared at home.

There was a little pie stall down there and we would plead with my dad for a pie.

"Alright" heÂ’d say "But your motherÂ’s making your dinner so donÂ’t say anything to her about pies"

WeÂ’d promise and get our pies.

On returning home my mam would ask "Did you have a nice time?"

"Yeah" weÂ’d answer

"What did you get up to?Â’ sheÂ’d then ask.

Our response was...well, put it this way, weÂ’d basically do a Lukaku and drop my dad right in it ("YouÂ’re givin them frigginÂ’ PIES!?" Those things are full of shite plus IÂ’ve got the dinner on here..." etc)

I should repeat, I was FIVE (and I could at least receive a ball at my feet without it looking like I had polio).

Poltroons, all of them.

Dominic Tonge
73 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:07:43
Been thinking about the comments from our number ten, and to be honest, I have a hazy recollection of him signing a five-year contract. If you want to ply your trade at another team, who play Champions League football, then, Young master Lukaku, it would seem you will have to work on your game, score a rake of goals, oh and improve the attitude.

We own your contract for four more seasons, meaning that we get another 18 months of you performing at a level that attracts said clubsÂ’ interest, so Everton get goals, and the player we wanted; you get your move, if you still want it.

if Everton have in those 18 months to 2 years, a striker who is in the elite bracket and deserves the highest stage, our league form will probably reflect that, as will our placing. Oh, and we turn a profit. If not, then in say four years you will look a right tube when you are sweating on us offering you a new deal.

Andy Kavanagh
74 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:10:50
He is a capable goal scorer, decent when running onto a ball.

However;

He is unable/unwilling to shield a ball. (6ft 4in ???? & questionable body strength)

He jumps like heÂ’s limbo dancing.

His ability to trap/control a ball is reminiscent of days on a beach with a fly-away.

In summary; he canÂ’t do the basics that well. He should be getting his head down and working hard (if he is - have you seen an improvement yet?) rather than talking nonsense about playing for a big/top team...

Callum McNab
75 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:19:04
How quickly this prick forgets. His beloved big club wouldnÂ’t even put him on the bench half the time, but loan him out to another team, in hope some gobshite would pay nearly 㿊 mill for someone who couldnÂ’t put a ball away from 2 metres out.

It’s quite clear he hopes that his comments will force him out of Everton. I hope to god it does – and take the clown who bought him with him.

Peter Morris
76 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:12:39
This might have something to do with him being a so-called Chelsea fan as a kid, and thereÂ’s no doubt he harbours resentment at being shipped out last year. Unfinished business perhaps. HeÂ’s not alone in hinting at moving on when essentially he is responsible in part at least for the poor performances. Players do that all the time.

Do I think Chelsea are a bigger club that Everton? – not in a million years, all fur coat, no knickers and absolutely zero history. Most of their fans have been recruited in the last decade but the fact is they have more money to buy success – and nowadays, that is the definition of ’big’.

Tony Waring
77 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:11:28
I am inclined to join in the general consensus and give Lukaku some stick but I noted that the original article appeared in The Sun, that leading example of superlative cutting edge journalism. Hence I am inclined to think that words may have been put in RomÂ’s mouth or else his opinions were quoted out of context. Whatever the truth, he obviously hasnÂ’t a clue about what he should be reading on a daily basis!

Incidentally I do think he had a fair game against Chelsea; he actually controlled the ball (not all the time!), used his strength admirably and was unlucky not to score. LetÂ’s cut him some slack and hope that his improvement continues preferably with a hat-trick against Leicester.

Callum McNab
78 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:25:46
Well said John Daley.
Andrew Ellams
79 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:22:51
DidnÂ’t happen under Moyes? Bollocks. What was ArtetaÂ’s reason for leaving, or Lescott? Why did Pienaar go to Spurs? How many times was Heitinga alledged to have quoted something different? And not to even mention Rooney. Some very selective memories on here at the moment.
Jim Bennings
80 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:16:41
Eric

In this day of crazed transfer fees you probably would get someone paying near 17/18 million for him, fooled into a false sense of security by us paying a stupid amount for him.

I do think nothing will change regarding Lukaku at Everton in terms of what he contributes, we only play one style of football and itÂ’s as clear as day that it doesnÂ’t work well, least of all when you have a striker that canÂ’t trap a ball or hold a ball up consistently enough, plus letÂ’s be honest itÂ’s not like Rom has the work ethic of a Marcus Bent or Craig Bellamy, constantly on the move.

He does in many ways remind me of Anichebe.
In Leon OsmanÂ’s autobiography he states that Anichebe had all the tools to be a really top striker but he was basically lacking in bravery and all it took was a tough centre half from the opposition to nudge him and Victor would disappear, quite embarrassing for a man of that physique.

I believe Lukaku lacks the bravery and hunger, the fire in his belly, to become a really top striker and this is a factor that he will always carry with him regardless of age, you canÂ’t coach a player to have that courage and aggression non more so than can you coach him to run all day like Bent used to during that top 4 campaign.

I watch enough football and see strikers scoring the type goals that Lukaku should.

Kevin Dale
81 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:30:48
This shows to me that under Martinez the club is going backwards, the fact that players are now wanting to move on indicates they have no faith in our future clubs development, or its ambition to win something, the only way they are going to do this is to move on once they have taken maximum in wages and gained premiership experience!!

The club is showing very poor leadership and management skills with all this outpouring of players wanting to move, criticism of style play, contract delays, not to mention lack of wining results on the pitch! All this seem to me of a club going downhill rapidly.

Something needs to be done, to me Everton FC is a great club, stacked with great history, which now needs to be matched by its ambition, if the players think differently why!!!

Someone take charge!!!

Michael Kenrick
82 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:27:07
David Barks, I have this painfully memory from the other night, of at least two beautiful balls played right on to the toe of the Big Lummox... and he consummately failed to slot either one of then.

They were by far the best chances in the game, served up on a plate just right for him to do his business... yet he arrogantly assumed that getting them on target would suffice.

Sadly, thereÂ’s a lot bigger problem here than lack of service. He seems to have lost the very special knack that set him apart: that magical ability to finish.

Bob Skelton
83 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:21:25
Rom, you idiot. Chelsea made you feel welcome because you were crap and they felt embarrassed having conned us out of 㿈 million.

Which Â’BigÂ’ club is going to pay good money for a centre forward whose control is woeful, canÂ’t head and canÂ’t pass? The only one I can think of is ......Everton and weÂ’ll never get our money back!!!

Pathetic!

Will Firstbrook
84 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:22:23
When it rains, it pours.

You certainly figure out quick who you can count on when things get tough.

IÂ’m glad he enjoyed his reception at Chelsea. It will be in stark contrast to the one he can likely expect at Goodison next time.

Sadly, the mindset of the current generation of footballers. However, we are the idiots that overpaid for him and unless he starts to play to the level and consistency required to recoup any of that back, we are going to get screwed (yet again) at the hands of Chelsea.

I have no idea whether BBS has it in him to rip a strip off of these prima donas but he should and put him on the "naughty seat" as Pulis did with Berahino recently and play Kone instead. Not like heÂ’s making a difference these days.

Kevin Tully
85 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:35:35
On the fee - I believe ٢m was an add-on if we reached C.L. group stages, and ٣m loan fee from last season (including wages) was included in this 㿈m price-tag. So the 㿈m was rather padded out, no doubt to make us look Â’ambitious.Â’

N.B. This doesnÂ’t excuse his witless comments!

Jim Bennings
87 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:39:26
Martinez now for me must show who is actually the boss here.

He must drop Lukaku next week for showing a blatant lack of respect towards the club who pays his wages, he has abused the trust at his place of employment and this should not be allowed to happen.

Its hardly like his form has been great anyway, heÂ’s not un-droppable.

Be big Roberto

Dick Brady
88 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:43:24
Playing like he has this season thereÂ’s no chance of a Â’Top ClubÂ’ being interested in him. Roberto canÂ’t sell him for less than the 㿈 million he paid to bring him to Goodison and no Â’Top ClubÂ’ is going to pay 㿈 million or more to buy him. No fucking loyalty in this game. First EtoÂ’o jumps ship the first chance he gets and now Lukaku proves heÂ’s doesnÂ’t care about the club. I donÂ’t care if he does leave. I only want players who love the club at Everton anyway.
Eric Myles
90 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:44:00
Andrew #79.

"What was Arteta's reason for leaving," the Club needed 10m to pay off part of a bank overdaft.

"or Lescott?" He got offered a shedload of money by City.

Why did Pienaar go to Spurs? 'Cos we wouldn't give him pay parity with Baines who he was as good as at the time.

"How many times was Heitinga alledged to have quoted something different? "Said something about a bicycle tour of Barcelona but fulfilled his contract despite telling the Club it would be better off selling him and they didn't listen.

" And not to even mention Rooney." Sold to balance the books.

"Some very selective memories on here at the moment." Pit, kettle. black!

Jim Bennings
91 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:48:26
Dick

We should have read between the lines before signing Lukaku last summer.

"if Everton are in the Champions League I'd join them"

He spent months harbouring hopes that Chelsea would keep him or another "top club" (haha) would come in and pay mad money.

They didn't, and Lukaku didn't want to sit on Chelsea's bench so he thought he would use us as a stepping stone basically.

Sean Kelly
92 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:48:09
IÂ’m seething with rage at the arrogance of this overpaid useless twat. HeÂ’s lazy cant trap a ball to save his life. He jumps like a fucking pregnant hippo and has no passion for this club or its supporters.
Unless heÂ’s put in front of the cameras on the OS and apologises then I know the lunatics have taken over this asylum
James Stewart
95 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:50:39
All starting to look a bit of a shambles the Martinez reign. Players mouthing off every week about wanting to play for bigger clubs and in the Champions league. Moyes wouldn’t have tolerated it and neither should Martinez if he had any backbone, (which he doesn’t).

MIrallas missed a penalty before his outburst and Lukaku’s chance was even easier than Mirallas’s. Same outcome though, didn’t convert. Same with most players these days all talk no result. The only CL quality player we have at present is Stones and you don’t hear him mouthing off. Lukaku and Mirallas aren’t good enough for the biggest clubs otherwise they would be there.

Kevin Rowlands
96 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:50:56
The arrogance of these two from Belgium is staggering, we all know we're having a shit season, knocked out of two cups early, hovering above the relegation zone, can't score, and these two are more than complicit in all that, yet they go public banging on about Champions League. How about helping us from playing in the Championship next year? Like was mentioned above, Spurs or any other come in with 40 mill for both, bite their hands off and get rid.
Brian Harrison
97 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:56:54
I guess this just shows the contempt in which these overpaid muppets show to the fans and the club. Its all about me, while not taking into consideration his own lamentable form. I am tempted to say the worry is that he will spend the rest of the season sulking and strolling round, but he has done that already for the first half of the season. I will quite happily sell him for a huge loss and go and get Danny Ings who has a better goal scoring record this season. The lad works hard and knows where the net is.
Lyndon Lloyd
98 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:52:30
Michael K: (82) "I have this painfully memory from the other night, of at least two beautiful balls played right on to the toe of the Big Lummox... and he consummately failed to slot either one of then."

I don't recall this second gilt-edged chance to which you're referring (unless it was a 20-yard effort with his weaker foot that Cech did well to save) but I find this criticism of Lukaku – and I include Mohamed (1) here, too – not scoring our best chance against Chelsea utterly mystifying.

Your assertion in your match report and again here is that he "languidly" ushered the ball in the general of the goal. In actual fact, he did everything he was supposed to as a top striker – got himself in position, off his marker and put the shot on target.

9 times out of 10, the goalkeeper doesn't start moving in the direction he anticipates the shot before the ball even reaches Lukaku's foot. It was a world-class save from point-blank range where the angles are a lot less forgiving with a 6' 4" goalkeeper in front of you than they appear from a side-on TV angle.

On to Lukaku's comments: He has always stated his ambition to play for a Champions League side, even before he joined us. He signed for a club seemingly on the cusp of cracking the top four last summer but that has clearly gone off the rails in this train-wreck of a season.

At age 21, he has time to make that dream a reality with us. Is he top Champions League quality yet? No, but his ambition is to reach that standard. While he is not immune from criticism himself at the moment, it's clearly not going to happen under the current system that Martinez insists on using. His goalscoring record is there for all to see and he will always be a consistent goalscorer but he's being wasted as a hold-up-the-ball target man when that's not his strength.

Charles Barrow
99 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:58:21
This further confirms what we all know - the only people who love the club are the fans - the vast majority of footballers (at all clubs) couldn't give a monkey's - so long they're paid x zillions and get the afternoon off every day for a round of golf they're happy. How many times do you see a team defeated and on the TV they don't look too bothered, when we are in agony!

Doesn't stop me from supporting the club through thick and thin but it's the reality - if players are offered more money by a so called 'top' club they move. Rom was an idiot if its true what he said. Not surprised he was thinking it - just surprised he said it out loud!

Paul Andrews
100 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:09:34
Lyndon @ 98

Absolutely spot on. Great post

Kevin Rowlands
101 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:08:07
Lyndon, lets be honest, it's not about Champions League is it? if it was, as has been stated before, Mirallas would still be at Olympiakos, it's all about the money. If Newcastle came in for either of them in the summer with an offer of 150k per week, and Southampton make the CL and come in with an offer 100k pw AND CL football who do you think either one would sign for?
Eddie Dunn
102 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:04:01
All of this conjecture is based on a "quote" which has not been verified, and even if it was, if a player is asked a direct question by an interviewer, eg " would you, one day like to play at a Champions League club?" then what is the lad supposed to answer?

Today’s players are mostly mercenaries, and influenced by agents etc, this is the reality of this money bonanza, and with the new Sky money, it will only get worse.

The players are very unhappy, I know through a very good source, who knows many of the Moyes players, that the lads don’t trust Martinez, they think he is two-faced, and a bullshitter.

Funny that, I have also been thinking that for several months.

Bob Heyward
103 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:14:05
Kevin @98 & 59: You are going way, way too far there. They are Everton players. What weÂ’re seeing is a reaction to a problem. Please donÂ’t use such foul language to attack the lads that wear the blue. If they want out, try asking the question Â’whyÂ’, rather than defaming them. Disgraceful.
Steven Telford
104 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:09:25
Why was Roberto able to get so much out of him last season, and so little this season.

I still believe he is a top class player with a ton of potential.

Yes, we all know he has a heavy toe, and that does not look like it is going to change. Therefore to make the most out of him, it surely has to do with the type of service he gets. It seem 9/10 balls that come to him do so as he stands with his back to the goal.

We are consistently breaking down in the upper 3rd of the pitch. And its seeing this repeated and repeated that the most annoying part.

Here is Q to be asked:
Last season compared to this season, did opponents adapt to us, or is it some tactical tweak that has gone so badly wrong which Martinez refuses to change.

This is a fucking depressing season compared to the fireworks of last.

James Stewart
105 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:21:57
(98) Don't agree at all. It was a world class miss not save. Cech didn't even have to move. The more you see it the worst it looks from Lukaku's point of view.
Joe Foster
106 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:16:40
He is probably not going to be the last player have these sentiments at our club.we probably had a certain attraction that we might of been able to push on or be one of the better top tier premier league clubs. Unfortunately we have gone backwards and the spirit we had seems to be gone.
Lyndon Lloyd
107 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:21:52
I think it's both, Kevin, so they would probably choose Southampton in your scenario.

They want the prestige of playing for a big club in a top league (that's not Olympiakos) in Europe's biggest competition and at Mirallas's age, I don't begrudge him the desire to make that happen in the next year.

Lukaku has time. I genuinely believe that he wants to play at the highest level and if we could provide it, he would stay even if it meant we couldn't pay him ridiculous wages.

Lyndon Lloyd
108 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:26:48
James, what do you mean Cech "didn't have to move"?!

He is moving to his left before Lukaku hits it and extends his leg to make the save. It was superb. I would wager had it been at the other end, our keeper would have stood helplessly motionless.

John Ford
109 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:19:16
There's a bit of revisionism going on here. The vast majority were beside themselves when they heard we were forking out a massive wad for him. I and a couple of others took a bit of a bashing for pointing out his obvious limitations. People were swallowed up by us dealing in such a big time cash deal. He's been a dissapointment and no mistake.

Football media is full of bollocks, trivia, missquotes and banalities. It's only when someone says something so monumentally stupid that you think....well no one would make that up, surely? If he has said this then sell the dog....and what's more RM should drop him and make him clean Naismiths boots for the rest of the season.

Gobshite.

Tom R Owen
110 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:26:23
If the likes of Miralles and Lukaku were to play consistently at the level they are paid and regarded by the manager then we would be a top 4 club.
These pre madonnas fuck me right off.
If you think you are bigger than our great club - Well Fuck Off!!
These guys are a disgrace
Remember boys who is paying your huge wages at present !
Tom Dodds
111 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:22:51
A truly arrogant statement to make.

Maybe though heÂ’s taken a good look around him, and thought, how can this club really go places with a Chairman who has not got a fucking pot to piss in, who has never put 2p in towards purchasing a player. AFTER 15 YEARS.
A board worth a billion+, that wouldnÂ’t even buy the total bargain that was Finch Farm when unbelievably it came up for sale (prompting a cash-strapped city council to snap it up!!!). And who like Gillette & Hicks are only along for the Sky revenue ride.

He also might well’ve sussed the manager is an ineffectual who has lost the plot and is taking us nowhere... So er what would YOU do???

Andrew Laird
112 Posted 13/02/2015 at 16:50:46
If Lukaku meant Edlington Top Club, who retained top spot in Division Three of the Doncaster Highfield Property Sunday Alliance League then I think everyone is being extremely harsh on him.
Christopher Wallace
113 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:26:29
I though Lukaku and Mirallas were excellent last year but they can both do one for £30m.

Problem being, nobody is going to pay for them.

Fair enough, these guys aren't true Evertonians like the rest of us, and have no proper allegiance (apart from the astronomical wages we pay them).

If you want a move to a top club, knuckle down and do the business on the pitch for a year or two, then kindly piss off, instead of blabbing to the media.

What planet do these guys live on. I was all for the Lukaku move - going on what he had shown last few seasons and the cursed potential - but he has regressed beyond belief. It's not all down to poor service.

He can't even get his napper on an unchallenged long ball! Is this the same boy that scored 2 awesome headers against the hammers and the shite? And is coached by big dunc? Bloody Naismith puts him to shame with the timing in his jumps.

If only there were more mosques on merseyside, we'd have Ba (a player Lukaku can only dream of emulating) and plenty left over in the bank.

Buy out your contract and go fail somewhere else.

P.s how many goals did you score for that top club you played for??

Kevin Rowlands
114 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:29:14
Lyndon, first of all, absolutely no chance they would sign for Southampton in that scenario, secondly, their level of play has us closing in on Championship football not Champions league. If they had both been lighting it up this season and we just missed out on CL ourselves then I think most would say thank you and good luck, but they haven't have they. These two, along with several others have been stinking the joint out, like Mourinho rightly said last season, Romelu needs keep his big mouth shut and show us what he can do on the pitch!
Eric Myles
115 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:33:47
Kevin #101, Southampton.
Stephen Brown
116 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:34:25
Agree with a lot that has been posted! What shocks me is why are they so stupid to make such comments- ego maniacs !
Tony Doran
117 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:37:00
Don't people remember what he said ealier in the season about us being a stepping stone. If RM won't get rid then he must be the first to go.
Mike Green
118 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:37:07
Must be a Belgian thing....
Sid Logan
119 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:20:39
Lyndon, you do make some sensible points. However were told Lukaku is a very intelligent lad so why say anything at this moment in time. Why use the phrase 'top club' and therefore the clear indication that we aren't one.

He can't fail to understand how demeaning that is to the club and the fans. Looks also like he's been phased by the hug and kiss from the manager who was more than happy to dump him.

If he had any sort of bottle he'd be telling the manager what sort of service he needs but clearly isn't getting. But regardless of the service to him a demonstration of a few basic skills: like killing a ball when he receives it; learning to look along the line to avoid being constantly offside; and judging the flight of a high ball wouldn't go amiss.

But for me the bottom line is that these particiular kinds of public statements from players at any club are inexcusable and therefore we shouldn't try to excuse them.

Kevin Rowlands
120 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:39:03
The question I would like to ask Lukaku and Mirallas is what 'big' club are they actually talking about, absolutely no chance on earth any of the top clubs would touch either of these two, why? because their simply not good enough, don't believe me? ask Chelsea.
Andy Walker
121 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:36:37
I don't think this type of comment will come as a surprise to most fans who know this guy has an over inflated opinion of himself. He made this clear at Chelsea and also some of his comments about us last season. Mourinho doesn't get rid of good players with good attitudes, we know Lukaku seems to lack the latter and based on this season the former too.

Martinez was gullible enough to pay a fortune for him, even though he will have know his character having worked with him for a year.

This is yet another consequence of the poor judgement demonstrated by an out of depth manager (Eto'o, Barry, McGeady....).

Ian Burns
122 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:07:27
I said it earlier on in this thread and I will repeat it again that all of this recent outpourings from Garbutt, to Mirallas to Lukaku and players having to speak out for a more robust style of play is down to RM.

Of course Lukaku should keep his mouth shut but yet again it highlights the lack of respect; dressing room control and even the ruddy style of play demanded by the players that this manager is out of his depth.

There will be a statement soon distancing himself from the remarks or a statement to say they were taken out of context and the manager will be saying that the rebuttal was remarkable for a 21 year old.

Christopher Wallace
123 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:43:23
Tony 117

Surely the stepping stone scenario involved him banging 40 goals over 2 seasons then moving on for £40m?!

Try and think of one Rick champions league club that would pay £15m for him at this point. He's deluded.

Looks like Eolfsburg are heading for CL so hopefully they'll come back in the summer (though Dost looks a better player at this point, and possibly Bendtner!!)

Eric Myles
125 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:40:03
if a player is asked a direct question by an interviewer, eg " would you, one day like to play at a Champions League club?" then what is the lad supposed to answer?

"I am playing at a club that has in recent history shown its aspirations and capability to qualify for the CL and I am committed to doing my part in making sure the goals of the Club and the fans are achieved."

NOT, I want to play for a better team

Nev Renshaw
126 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:42:15
He can f*** off any time he likes as far as I'm concerned.He's not been worth anything near the fee that was paid for him.The only thing is, Everton will lose money on him because no club will pay what our soft lot paid for him. The special one knew what he was doing when he off-loaded him on to us.
Andrew Ellams
127 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:43:45
Eric @ 90, every one of those players stated a desire to move on to bigger things ie Champions League football and during Moyes reign despite somebody on this thread claiming its something unique to the Martinez era. The financial gain to Everton was always used as a supposed excuse to cover for the fact that those players were not going to achieve on field success at this club
Geoff Harrison
128 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:33:44
I wouldn't be surprised if the club both sanctioned and even encouraged these 'comments'. That way, they get out of a tricky situation (ie. signing him in the first place) by getting shut and making it seem like the player's fault. His performances have been seriously disappointing, but we can sell because he's 'ambitious'; not because he's a bag of shite.
Clive Mitchell
129 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:03:01
Geoff we can't/won't sell unless someone offers more than we paid for him. He definitely needs to be taught a lesson. It's easy to do so. But the worrying thing is the fact that we're in this mess in the first place: it's the lack of discipline at the club that has allowed players PUBLICLY to question the manager's tactics, disobey team orders and disrespect the club.
Trevor Peers
130 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:51:35
With players now publicly stating their wish to leave what does this say about the current Manager and the players lack of respect for him?
Maybe Roberto now regrets not disciplining Mirallas after the penalty incident. He should emphasize that were still in a relegation battle and crack down hard on any player that rocks the boat !

Tony Hill
131 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:50:59
I don't know whether something has been lost in the reporting of these words - I doubt it - but it is not the first time that Lukaku has been quoted in a form which undermines Martinez. This is the sort of damaging confusion which is born of weak management, the club simply should not be allowing this sort of nonsense to get into the public arena.

Whichever way you cut it, the impression is of a club in some disarray I am afraid, just at the time when we need to be focused. There are few more ruthless and disloyal operators than professional footballers and their agents when they sense they're on sinking ground.

Wayne Smyth
132 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:01:09
A non-story as far as I'm concerned, but an incredibly stupid way to phrase a response....assuming that it hasn't been twisted by the hacks or taken out of context.

I want every footballer we buy to have aspirations of being good enough for CL football, winning trophies and playing for a "top team". The expectation of course is that that "top team" eventually is us if we buy enough players of sufficient calibre.

The first comment from Mohammed is a prime example of the type-before-you-think mentality. Where are all these "loyal" footballers that we could've signed instead of Lukaku? The last proper loyal footballer I can remember was Le Tissier.

All of our players are here only because we offer them something better than they could have got elsewhere. Even the Evertonians among them like Barkley will no doubt be off as soon as City, Chelsea or Utd offer to double their pay.

Quite frankly I'm more worried about the dross in the squad happy to settle for mid-table every season.

Lukaku's price tag is fuck all to do with him. His poor performances this season and indeed the (lack of decent)service he has received is a different discussion. I've little doubt he will eventually become one of the top strikers in world football.

Dave Williams
133 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:03:24
I think he is trying to say that he wants to play for a club which is in the hunt for trophies and in particular CL.

We all love the club and believe we are a top club - the very best. The Belgians have no ties to us - our club is merely their employer and this is the problem with most foreign players who see us as a stepping stone to success and even more money.

The day when we can pack the team with local born players would mean we could dispense with the mercenaries who are only bothered with their career and not the club. Until then we have to suffer these poorly considered interviews and possibly moderate our support for the culprits and instead get behind the likes of Ross and Leon - local boys who get far too much unfair stick but who bleed royal blue.

Tony Marsh
134 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:08:36
Maybe Lukaku got carried away with our success last season and it clouded his judgement when signing a proper contract with us. Since then he has like many of us realised what a two bob outfit we really are ?I cant blame him for wanting away.
The manager is under utilising his strengths.the fans are on his back and the team is slipping in to the bowels of the league table.

Any player with ambition would want away from us at the moment,Barkley and Garbutt included..The stadium is a disgrace and the off filed earnings for Everton players is a joke. Name one of our Squad of internationals that gets any real media coverage or high profile sponsorship?

The truth is we are lucky to be in the EPL considering the pittance we spend on players and this season has given some of the squad itchy feet. Most of our players don’t view EFC with the same Blue tinted specs that we all do.The club is a shambles and thats the truth.

Rom is a TIT for blurting out his true feelings though .

Barry Stevens
135 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:14:36
Not at any point does he say he wants to leave immediately. He says eventually. Quote from the Cambridge dictionary for definition of said word " in the end, especially after a long time"
Kevin Rowlands
136 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:23:23
WS #132, I agree with most of your post except the very last part, surely a prerequisite for being one of the worlds top strikers is you should actually be able to (1) head a ball, (2) trap and hold a ball up, (3) make a simple 6 yard pass, other than that, as Roberto would say, he's going to be phenominal!
Ross Edwards
137 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:31:29
Non story, horribly twisted to make a drama out of nothing.
Eric Myles
138 Posted 13/02/2015 at 17:54:02
Andrew #127, Arteta was so desperate to move that he only "requested a transfer" 1 hour before the close of the transfer window, after several negotiations between the Club and Arsenal had broken down at a time when the banks had expressed concern over the state of the Club overdraft. As Moyes later stated "everyone knows the Arteta money went to the banks"

The season prior to Lescott signing for City they finished 10th in the league, not a CL placing even by the red shite standards. Lescott was pissed off at being continually being played out of position at left back and was offered a shed load of money to play in his proper position by the newly acquired Sheiks.

Spurs were not in the CL when Pienaar joined them and the only reason he left was because he was not offered parity pay parity with Baines and both Chelsea and Spurs made offer for him. Chelsea were a CL qualifier that year by the way.

I think everyone knows the financial benefit to the Club from the sale of Rooney and how it saved the Club.

So none of these players left for so called "Champions League Glory" as you claim.

Iakovos Iasonidis
139 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:25:33
It seems some boys just don't think before they talk. What a childish and unnecessary comment. We are lost this year, unfocused, uninspired and boring. This type of comments though prove how much we have lost our status. 21 year old lads like lukaku, some years older, some years younger, the new generation of supporters don't respect us. You have to be above 40 to really know what Everton is all about. Lost season this one, hope next one is better.
Paul Jeronovich
140 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:35:56
Lads this is just modern day footballers who have too much power. Let them fuck right off, if they did their talking on the pitch and not social media and tabloids then we'd be higher up the league. Gobshites the lot of them. Everton will live on.
Lee Gorre
141 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:40:08
I sincerely wish he played for any club other than ours. Fuck off lukaku.
Lee Gorre
142 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:40:08
I sincerely wish he played for any club other than ours. Fuck off lukaku.
Kevin Rowlands
143 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:33:47
I'd like to think it's a non story Ross, but this is coming out right on the heels of his mate saying pretty much the exact same thing, Prentice in the Echo also doesn't think it's a non story either saying it's a total lack of respect to the club and fans, I agree with him.
On another point, I get really tired of hearing he's not getting the service, he was served up two gilt edge chances on Weds an missed both, as Ronny Goodlass said on air, for 28 mill he should be putting them away. Austin, Berahino and Ings have all scored more than him this season in less games btw, I doubt their getting better service than Lukaku considering who they play for, sometimes as a striker you have to create your own chances, something he doesn't do very well.
Philip Bunting
144 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:44:32
Hes not a blue so make sure he knows it. Fuck off Lukaku
Tony Hill
145 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:38:49
The point surely is that Lukaku didn't have to talk about leaving at all. He only signed 6 months ago for many millions and he is aware that the club is at a very difficult stage of the season. Unless he has been entirely misquoted, then I do not agree that this is a storm in a teacup; it is damaging and makes us look poor.
Ross Edwards
146 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:44:54
I think it's been massively twisted myself Kevin but if it is true this disaster of a season is turning into a complete farce. Christ knows what's going on behind the scenes but I'm sure Martinez is at the forefront of it.
Barry Thompson
147 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:26:08
Expect Lukaku to become a goal scoring machine very soon. He has just signed a new boot deal with Nike and they have promised to put L and R on each boot (ala Jimmy Cricket) to ensure that he puts them on the right feet.
Amit Vithlani
148 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:16:47
Seem to recall Mo Fro blurting out something similar a couple of years back. Must be all the Brussels sprouts resulting in so much hot air from our past and present Belgian players.

That said, I'm with Lyndon on the harshness of criticism of Rom for missing the 2 chances against Chelski. Both were very good saves and he was unlucky that Cech's reflexes were undiminished following his long stint on the bench.

James Carlisle
149 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:48:06
He won't go to a top club but I hopehe fucks off at the end of the season. And Mirallas too. Who tells these tossers that they're good enough to play for a top club? Quite similar to that other Belgian waste of space a few years back. They're not good players. The odd goal every now and then doesn't mean they're good enough for the champions league. And in all seriousness, what does Lukaku offer us other than goals? Jack shit that's what. Waste of money and a waste of space. Get rid.
David Flanagan
150 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:57:47
Lukaku is the typical modern-day footballer. They have no allegiance to a club as it's just a job and they all think they are better than they are. My attitude hasn't changed: if a player wants to leave, he leaves on our terms, and we screw the buyer for as much as possible.

Both Lukaku and Mirallas are frustratingly inconsistent in both performance and effort and, for me, could be replaced. The one thing that does bother me is this is another indication of problems in the dressing room.

Steve Curtis
151 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:56:57
Lukaku has the first touch of a 40-year-old virgin; until that changes, he will remain a rich manÂ’s Anichebe.

He is deluded if he thinks he can play for EuropeÂ’s elite at this stage of his career. If he wins us the Europa League, maybe some "top club" will come in for him. In the meantime, just shut the fuck up and let your football do the talking instead of your mouth.

Mike Green
152 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:54:27
If true it's the equivalent of people in glass houses throwing stones though isn't it.....?

Score a hat-trick at Stamford Bridge and yeah, you've earned a bit of leeway to talk yourself up.

Do the opposite and well, get your head down, shut up and get in with it.

And, to be honest I don't care if it's been taken out of context - if I talked about the competition in the glowing terms Mirallas and Lukaku have done in the past couple of weeks I'd been shown the door.

At club level, when dealing with the media they should keep the subject to three things, and three things only - Everton, Everton and Everton.

Not fit to lace Naismith or John Stones boots.

Jim Knightley
153 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:51:47
Brian...that is a naively simplistic view. Lukaku left Chelski because he didn't want to sit on the bench, and they needed money to balance the books. A team like Chelski don't have to wait for development when they can attract, and afford, a player like Costa. To say that he preferred Drogba moves from simplistic to idiotic territory. Even taking Mourinho's opinion as gold is problematic, given his clearly problematic relationship with a serious of players. De Bruyne has been fantastic in the Bundesliga this season, as was Robben who he let go for a number of years. I also love the idea that Origi is a better striker than Lukaku: Origi, who has scored 3 league goals in 19 for Lille. At the age of 19, Lukaku managed 17 for West Brom in a far tougher Premier League. Do you even think about what you are writing?

The implication that Lukaku cannot be extremely talented because Chelski let him go is perhaps the worse of it. How many top players have been let go by top clubs? Let alone someone who was clearly let go because of specific conditions.

Lukaku has acted like a twat, and has clearly been off what we expected this season..but he is 21, he has received very little service, and has suffered because of our style.

Mike Allison
154 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:07:11
This thread is up there with biggest whingeing over-reaction in the history of ToffeeWeb.

He should keep his gob shut mind, but it doesn't need the wailing and gnashing of teeth, it's the sort of thing players say all the time, it doesn't mean all of our best players will be sold and we're going to get relegated.

Daniel A Johnson
155 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:09:58
Shows the lack of respect and discipline running through the club. I hope Martinez and the lads give him both barrels.

Lukaku's comments are a big fuck you to the manager, his fellow team mates and us the fans.

The fact they also arrive on the back of two glaring misses at crucial points in a tight game at Stamford bridge, indicate that Lukaku is an egomaniacal maniac, an idiot or is being badly advised by those around him.

Its gone sour at Everton this year and any of our decent players with an eye for success will have an eye on the exit door.

Kevin Rowlands
156 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:03:01
Amit and Lyndon, whilst I agree Cech made two decent saves maybe if he hadn't shot the ball right at him they would have had more of a chance of going in, regardless I don't think it's his lack of goals that is upsetting fans, I'd say it's his overall performance, which is well documented on this thread, it's been fucking abysmal and that's being kind! If I had a pound for every time this lad has headed 'fresh air' this season, or when his second touch after receiving the ball is a tackle I'd be a rich man, that's why these statements are so annoying to most of us.
Will Firstbrook
157 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:20:12
By chance, does anyone know whether Lukaku and Mirralas share the same agent!?
Kevin Rowlands
158 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:20:16
JK #153, you might not think Origi is better than Lukaku but I can tell you someone who does, Marc Wilmots, who preferred him in nearly every game they played last summer in the biggest competition of them all.
Bill Gall
159 Posted 13/02/2015 at 18:43:10
Regardless how he said it, to me he is just stating he has ambition and would like to develop into a better player and if not at Everton he would like to move onto another club.
If he ever develops into a player other clubs will be interested in is another matter.

Modern top class footballers have no loyalty and with greedy agents will just go to whoever pays the most with a real opportunity for success .As Everton supporters we tend to idolize certain players and then call them what they really are mercenaries.when theydecide to leave and usually to bigger money clubs were they believe they will have more success.

The sad thing is we have to admit that Everton have a magnificet history and in the past we were the millionaire club but we can not continue living in the past this is the here and know not 20 yrs ago.

His comment may be because he believes that there is no future at Everton and with Miralles wanting to leave he may feel the same. This to me shows that if there is a lack of ambition it has to start at the very top B.K.

It is no use shouting and swearing at a player because he wants a move as he is just an employee and there are not many employees that will not move if they are offered more money with more success in his field.

The people at the top of this club over the years have squandered a number of opportunities to move the club foreward,that in this modern age is becoming more difficult to do, with the high costs of transfers and wages and their poor vision on the commercial side to promote the club.

These are the people to blame for players wanting to move on as no player will come to a club because of who we were,they come because of who you are today and what you offer for the future..

Andy Cobham
160 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:06:23
I desperately want Lukaku to be a success, and I genuinely believe that he's a very good player. I was excited that we signed him and remained happy even though like many others in the team this season he's played like a sack a shit most of the time. That said I think the reason we've got so many under performers is the Manager & Coaches, we just don't play to the strengths of the players we've got like we did last season.
Just like Mirallas though, if Lukaku wants to play for a top team then mebbe he'd better become the player we and he believe he can be. He'd do well to remember though that WE are the fourth most successful English team of all time, so going to a top team requires Man U, Red Shite or Arsenal (none of which want him)...as others have said the top European teams also aren't bothered, so the best he can hope for is the same current level as us.
Barry Lambert
161 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:05:59
Lock him in a room with big Dunc and let him listen to how much it means to be an Everton player and to the fans who pay money they can ill afford to watch him trip over the ball week in week out.

After the Chelsea game he looked more happy with the reception he received from some of their fans rather than being pissed off that we lost! Everton will still be here long after the departure of these mercenary bastards.

With all the new T.V. money becoming available there will be a host of top class foreigners begging to play in the Premiership. Most of which will be far better players.

Martinez needs to show some discipline and sort this out. If these gobshites donÂ’t want to play for Everton then they have to go. They WILL be replaced. It doesnÂ’t take too many moaners in the dressing room to fuck the whole thing up.

Mike Green
162 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:29:18
And Chelsea sold him too Andy....
Colin Metcalfe
163 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:28:22
If we could get even close to what we paid for him I would sell him in a heartbeat! Arrogant prick... hope the Goodison faithful give him some stick when we play The Foxes!
Kevin Rowlands
164 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:30:47
Some on here aren't getting the point, I'd say most of understand that a player will move on for more money or to a bigger club, it's the fact that the form these two Belgian gobshites have shown, along with many others, has got us hovering above the relegation zone and out of two cups. The difference is none of the 'others' who have been shite this season are gobbing off to the press about CL, it's totally uncalled for and it has to be bad for team morale!
Lyndon Lloyd
165 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:38:48
Will (157) "By chance, does anyone know whether Lukaku and Mirralas share the same agent!?"

They do, yes. Christophe Henrotay, but I don't this is agent-driven like Mirallas's situation probably is. Lukaku's always been ambitious.

Phil Walling
166 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:35:37
Andy, that may be true but modern judgement of a club's standing is based entirely on Premier history. And Everton are 'also rans'.

To modern day players, the glories days of Catterick and Kendall are ancient history and I doubt if too many of them have ever heard of Alan Ball let alone Dixie.

For me, the only merit of seeing Lukaku come good is that he will be doing it for Everton. All else is immaterial - and the same goes for Mirallas and all the other 'players of potential' we have in this most disappointing squad.

Pete Edwards
167 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:41:03
Come on I’m sure we all know how this works by now.... a media outlet takes a footballers comments out of context, prints what it wants as they know they wont get in to any bother by changing what was said to fit an agenda or cause a bit of a reaction to sell papers/gain visitors then what do you know others pick it upand go with it usually because the reporters arent actually writting the article just adding bits here taking bits out there

I imagine there isn’t much to see here just some naughty ammendments to comments about Lukaku being happy with the reception from his ex clubs fans with 2+2 being made to add up to 4,532

Paul Smith
168 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:36:49
"Lack of decent service" how many times does he miscontrol the first ball ? It's criminal. He hasn't developed on that front. He's good running on to a pass and that coming inside move resulting in a nice curler. Apart from that, he's toilet.

The price tag isn't his fault, the lack of playing to his strengths isn't his fault, the team's nosedive into the abyss isn't his fault. What is his fault though, is what he chooses to say, when he says it and who to. Ffs you can't blame him for wanting to decamp or any of them ftm. We are shite at atm.

Andrew Ellams
169 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:48:32
This just a fact of life these days, in and out of football. People move jobs on average every 3 years and when you are Lukaku ' s age you are always looking forward. Plus footballers have a much shorter career span to fit all into
Clive Rogers
170 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:44:42
Bill Gall #32,

You're spot on, but add fixed us up with an amateurish second rate manager who may well take us down.

Kevin Rowlands
171 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:50:08
He may be ambitious Lyndon but I'm afraid he's going to run into very big problems in that regard, his play/form doesn't even come close to matching them lofty ambitions of his, if he actually thinks so he's seriously deluded.
Murdo Laing
172 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:39:43
Dick #88-Agree with most of your sentiment, but don't necessarily think a player needs to "love" the club to be a big success, rather, the affection for the player comes from both his skills and his perceived level of commitment on the pitch, don't you think? I mean, (Super) Lee Carsley joined us at a difficult time, and wasn't seen then as a top player, but by God was that lad committed ....and didn't we grow to love him? Lee is a midlander I think and he grew towards the club , not least I expect because we showed we felt he was a true Evertonian by his consistent and influential play. As for Lukaku , a highly intelligent and ambitious young man , his comments (if true) were ill advised and badly timed in the extreme .His performances though are really all that matter, and thus far, in the canon of other recent forwards we've had, he is nowhere near as good as Yakubu or Kev Campbell and he could not lace the boots of the peerless Bob Latchford ....so I respectfully suggest he fuck off. Wolfsburg SV- still interested?
Frank Crewe
173 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:29:09
If he wants to play for a "bigger" AKA "richer" club maybe he should try asking himself why Bony has gone from Swansea to City while he has gone from Chelsea to Everton.

He has progressed his career properly.

2006–2008 Issia Wazi pld gls
2007–2008 Sparta Prague B (loan) 14 (2)
2008–2011 Sparta Prague 59 (22)
2011–2013 Vitesse 65 (46)
2013–2015 Swansea City 54 (25)
2015– Manchester City 0 (0

You don't run before you can walk. If you want richer clubs to buy you then you have to produce the goods with the club you are at and at this moment in time that just ain't happening. He's simply not ready. He needs to knuckle down and learn how to be a striker and maybe when he's become a more complete player than he is today richer clubs might show an interest in him.

Mike Green
174 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:54:10
Pete #167 - despite my rants I think there could be a lot of truth in your final paragraph, which if giving Lukaku the benefit of the doubt is exactly how I see how it could have gone.

Otherwise I'm with Kevin Rowlands all the way.

Pete Edwards
175 Posted 13/02/2015 at 20:02:10
Mike I’d possibly have a slightly different view of it had it been someone else reportedly saying this but Lukaku is (meant to be at least) a pretty bright and educated young man although then I guess he would know how certain erm no sorry all comments are skewed to fit what the journos want them to say so should be more on the ball (excuse the pun) than most although you only have to use google translate to miss translate
Paul Graney
176 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:50:14
He can’t even do the basics, ie, control the ball, pass the ball, head the ball, obviously doesn’t understand the offside law – things which I would expect from a local park player.

Built like a brick shithouse but week after week dominated by opposing centre-halves so much, itÂ’s embarrassing.

And donÂ’t give me that shit about lack of service, he just ainÂ’t good enough. I didn’t want him and, as mentioned above, there are a lot better players out there that cost a lot less than what he did. Martinez fucked up big style paying 㿈 million.

Jamie Barlow
177 Posted 13/02/2015 at 19:54:23
These fuckin Belgians love chatting don't they. Every time there's a break and they go home they open their big fuckin mouths.

Really though, the only thing that pisses me off is that he's come out and said this now. I've no problem with players being ambitious but right now we need our players fighting like fuck to get us out of the mess THEY put us in.

Play as good as you can and put in the effort till the end of the season and then if you want to leave, leave. No problem. Coming out saying things like this (if he has) at this point does no favours to anyone.

Still loads of shite being typed on here though. We've got the same people telling us Lukaku is shite and he will never make it, never play for a big club but we've got to give Barkley time because he's only a young lad. 6 months separates them in age.

I know who's name I'd put on the team sheet first.

Mike Jones
179 Posted 13/02/2015 at 20:24:35
This is a top Club. With a (very) rich owner we would compete. We are bound by economics. Nothing else. He can do one. He wears canoes for boots
Colin Glassar
180 Posted 13/02/2015 at 20:40:06
I long for the days when we had a team full of British players who knew what the word loyalty meant.
Dave Abrahams
181 Posted 13/02/2015 at 20:43:17
Colin. (180) yes great days, and what about the 1968 cup final team, I think they were all English born players, but I could be wrong.
Karl Jones
182 Posted 13/02/2015 at 20:44:57
He can F.O. If we could get 28 million for him, I'd sell him in a flash at the end of the season and sign Charlie Austin. A better all round striker with a much better attitude - and that's Lukaku's problem, his attitude, which is why he'll never make a top striker. I wont be supporting him anymore.
Eddie Dunn
183 Posted 13/02/2015 at 20:39:32
To all those who thought that Lukaku was unlucky with his two chances on Wed night.
Go to a local football pitch, stand two yards out from the goal line....the goal is absolutely massive...to hit the keeper twice in those circumstances shows incompetance, especially if he really did say those things.
Colin Glassar
184 Posted 13/02/2015 at 20:52:44
You might be right Dave, I think they were. I'll have to google it.
Colin Glassar
185 Posted 13/02/2015 at 20:56:05
West, Wright, Wilson, Labone, Hurst, Kendall, Ball, Harvey, Husband, Morrisey, Royle. Sub. Kenyon. What a team, but we lost.
Kevin Rowlands
186 Posted 13/02/2015 at 20:51:23
Jamie #177, to be honest I'd put Barkley in the same category as Lukaku when it comes to form and potential, until they both improve dramatically neither will reach there potential, the big difference is Ross hasn't been giving it the big I am. Now on the other hand if it had been John Stones talking about ambition and CL football I'd understand more because he's going right to the top and his play on the field is proving that, the other two should take notice.
Dave Lynch
187 Posted 13/02/2015 at 20:45:38
I hated Moyes and his style of football but this would not have happened under him.

This shows a lack of respect for the manager. Martinez has talked him up since he came on loan and actually stated not long back that " He wouldn’t swap him anyone".

Martinez IMO does not have his management strategy right, he comes across as that whimpy teacher in school who used to get hell off the class idiots and didn’t have the balls to stand up to them.

I hope Big Dunc has a quiet word and Barcelona Bobby drops him immediately. I’m not holding my breath on the 2nd one though.

Mike Jones
188 Posted 13/02/2015 at 21:08:43
I would just get rid. I am all for people wanting to 'better' themselves......well off you go. I will get someone else...they might be better
Kieran Riding
189 Posted 13/02/2015 at 21:09:44
Dave Lynch, "WouldnÂ’t have happened under Moyes?" LOL.

Lack of respect for the manager?

I wish I could post a pic of Zaha right now.

Guy Hastings
190 Posted 13/02/2015 at 21:03:44
I thought the Bullingdon Club had a sense of entitlement but this lad takes the fucking biscuit.
Kieran Riding
191 Posted 13/02/2015 at 21:15:38
Nothing personal Dave, but IÂ’m calling you out on the "Big Dunc" comment as well. He sat there doing fuck all when Henderson was giving it loads in the Derby game right in front of him. He sat there motionless when Ivanovic was doing his Mick McManus impression the other night.

Hes our coach, and our six foot striker canÂ’t win a header.

I love Dunc as much as anyone, really I genuinely do. But IÂ’m not having him as a coach right now.

Colin Glassar
192 Posted 13/02/2015 at 21:23:37
Seconded Kieran. Big Dunc has been a huge disappointment as far as I'm concerned. What exactly does he do? Since he's come in the goals have dried up and he sits there with his arms crossed looking bored stiff. Can see him getting the boot in the summer as well.
Kieran Riding
193 Posted 13/02/2015 at 21:27:33
Colin, I hoped he would be our Simeone. Suited, booted and passionate.
Colin Glassar
194 Posted 13/02/2015 at 21:35:51
More like a wet rag Kieran. Let's hope he shows some signs of life before the season ends.
Mike Childs
195 Posted 13/02/2015 at 21:39:36
I set out to read the replies and hopefully make an intelligent comment myself, I got to Bill Gall #32 and realized the simple point of the problem had been exposed again for more times than I care to count.
Fintan Spode
196 Posted 13/02/2015 at 21:59:19
I must admit that I first began to doubt RM when he paid 㿈m for Lukaku, I compared it with what we could have got for that money or a couple of million more e.g. Negredo and Fraser Forster. On this very site at the end of last season there were a number of contributors suggesting he was worth 㾻m at most. RM it seems saw something in Lu that a lot of others didn't.
Dave Lynch
197 Posted 13/02/2015 at 22:06:25
Dunc is more involved with the youth team and from what I've heard is along to observe and finish his coaching badges.

He will not get involved in first team matters until he is employed to do so.

Ian Burns
198 Posted 13/02/2015 at 22:09:18
Mike - 195 and your reference to Bill - 32 - whereas I agree with the sentiment but BK did after all agree to a 28m transfer fee and if RM had his way he would have paid 100m.

You are both right in apportioning blame but for me it should be directed fairly and squarely at RM.

He is so far out of his depth I am amazed he is still in place and for that, indirectly you can blame BK.

Dave Long
199 Posted 13/02/2015 at 22:08:10
We need to start looking for local lads with ties to the club and area, Calum mcmanaman, joey Barton, Rooney, david nugent, guys from north wales. We are regarded as second tier and a stepping stone to bigger things. Depressing news.
Doug Fitzgerald
200 Posted 13/02/2015 at 22:25:10
Martinez is a dreamer! He spent 㿈m on a forward who we all thought had a great deal of potential. The lad obviously knows heÂ’s been found out again, causes a stink as soon as his form drastically drops, and doesnÂ’t fancy the challenge. ThatÂ’s the problem with giving a 20 year old 75k a week.

In my opinion we greatly overpaid for him – he can’t hold the ball up, Naismith wins more headers (which is unbelievable considering the size of Lukaku), and I just don’t think he has the heart to be a top class player. When have you ever seen Lukaku score with a thundering shot?, They’re pretty much all tap-ins or scuffed.

James Stewart
201 Posted 13/02/2015 at 22:30:24
(173) Spot on Frank. The problem with the Bony comparison though is that it is a bit unfair. Bony has a lot of natural talent as well as being a man mountain. Lukaku has virtually zero natural ability. Harsh but true. He has no skill and a right foot he can barely stand on let alone do anything with. What he does have is pace and power which can be used to great effect at a certain level. He won't be playing for the Madrid's of this world though he simply isn't good enough.
Ernie Baywood
202 Posted 13/02/2015 at 22:42:07
There's a market out there for Lukaku. If we can't provide top 6 football then someone else in Europe will.

It will come down to price. Why would Lukaku care if we want a profit? The market will dictate what he's worth and he'll get his move.

Sadly this is just a reflection of our shit season. It's been criminal.

Tom Edwards
203 Posted 13/02/2015 at 22:50:08
If he has indeed said these things, then I think he has gone a long way to burning his bridges with both the club and the fans. I have long since given up on him anyway. The lad can't trap a ball, can't turn, can't stay onside and mostly can't be bothered. I don't even think there is much chance of cashing in on him. He hasn't exacty put himself in the shop window, has he!

This season can't end soon enough for me. I know we are still in the EL, but we all know how that's going to end. St Steven of Whiston will lift the trophy to end his glorious career!

Stephen Jones
204 Posted 13/02/2015 at 22:57:29
If I was a 21 year old playing premiership football on 㿳k a week plus my manager said I was worth 𧴜 mill, I guess I would have quite an inflated opinion myself.

I would probably also believe that I should be playing for a team like Man United and being paid a similar amount to Rooney etc.

This is the mindset of your average Premier League footballer and nothing you say or do is ever going to change that.

Mark Dunford
205 Posted 13/02/2015 at 23:30:06
Simple observation is that we now seem to have a very unsettled squad and there is far too much of this stuff coming from range of sources. It is all relatively recent and there may be a number of causes - foremost would be the discontent that underachievement fosters. These aren't easy times for Everton and Lukaku's comments are at best extremely disappointing (assuming accuracy). Garbutt's reluctance and Mirallas's discontent fall into same category. Same goes for on field lack of discipline and the Manager's post match comments that more often than not seem to come from a parallel world.
Phil Rodgers
206 Posted 13/02/2015 at 23:59:57
This is a really shitty time to support Everton. There has been worse, admittedly but it's still wank.
Andrew Hawes
207 Posted 14/02/2015 at 01:03:48
We donÂ’t have a rich owner? Until fans start to question why Carter and Earl get away scot-free by putting their frontman Kenwright in front of the media crying poverty we will never move forward!

We have billionaire owners! Why do they never get questioned about no investment or new stadia? Then we wonÂ’t have the likes of Lukaku embarrassing this great club.

Matt Butlin
208 Posted 14/02/2015 at 01:15:19
I'm not defending Lukaku because the club have invested in him, more than we can really afford for one player but I'm glad I don't have a parasitic journalist following me about every time I've had a bad day at work. I'd soon be looking for a new job if that was the case.

The lad is 21. We can't expect him to be too savvy.

Matt Butlin
209 Posted 14/02/2015 at 01:27:05
Ok, I've just read what he said.

What a tool...

Jim Knightley
210 Posted 14/02/2015 at 01:33:27
So apparently Lukaku was responding to a question phrased along the lines of ´would you ever´..:

It does not make it much better, but the quotes have been decontextualised.

I would say something though: posters have lined up to criticise Lukaku for this. Many of these posters are probably twice Lukaku´s age. Some of the criticism directed towards the 21 year old is quite simply peculiar. This a perfect example from Michael:

´They were by far the best chances in the game, served up on a plate just right for him to do his business... yet he arrogantly assumed that getting them on target would suffice.'

This is beyond wrong...how can you state that his attempts were arrogant? His first effort was a good first time shot, which Cech only just managed to save. His second chance should have been a goal. He was denied by an excellent save, but I think missing it was a symptom of form and confidence, not the absurd reading of 'arrogance', which borders on the non-nonsensical. And where has this service been for most of the season?

We´ve had claims stating that Anichebe is a better player...Anichebe! seriously, is there some level of sarcasm I´m missing? Anichebe scored as many goals for us as Anichebe managed in one season with West Brom... what are you talking about Kevin? And Origi is better, with his 3 league goals in Ligue 1? I did not realise that posters on here watched alot of Ligue 1 football. Or Lukaku is crap because Mourinho decided to sell him to buy Diego Costa?

Lukaku has been an idiot, but some of the reactions on here are absurd. I want Lukaku to wear an Everton shirt, irrespective of his stupid comments, because he has what it takes to be a top top player. His touch goes missing too often, but there are games when he shows what he is capable of, and the service this season has been non-existent. We are simply not creating, and our midfielders prefer a run and shot, or a backwards pass, then the kind of service Lukaku clearly needs. If Lukaku has so many problems with his game, but managed to score so many league goals prior to this season, what does that say about his current and potential ability? Do the concerted attacks on him perhaps lack a realism, which will disappear when he hits form, and the fans can line up and use these forums to state that they always knew he would come good. And when he starts scoring and performing again..and he will, I´ll bet on two things: Anichebe will be doing fuck all, and Origi will be behind Sturridge, and perhaps Ings in the pecking order.

Lukaku has lost form after the World Cup, and has looked out of sorts this season, and clearly has had some personal problems. He should have done better, but there are circumstances, and young players have dry periods. He is playing in a team which clearly does not suit his style, and he is playing in a team without creativity at the moment. He could do more of course, but I can bet that a different manager would have resulted in a different Lukaku this season. Any success we will have this season in the Europa League will rest on his shoulders, and I think a change of tact will bring us closer to the Lukaku of the last two seasons. It might be good to remember, when you are all criticising him so much, that he is 21, and never asked for 28mil to be paid for him (or 24 or whatever the final fee is or may be).

Harold Matthews
211 Posted 14/02/2015 at 01:28:01
True Matt. Well educated but no common sense.
Brian Porter
212 Posted 14/02/2015 at 05:46:11
Rats leaving a sinking ship? I blame the manager for this state of affairs. He had a great season last year and a springboard to achieve even more this season, but his ineptitude has been all too clear. He has lost the dressing room, failed dismally with his tactics, turned good players into bumbling shadows of themselves and has no idea how to utilise his best players.

Lukaku needs support from those around him in order to score the goals we bought him to deliver, but has Martinez picked the team to play to his strengths? NO! Though I deplore the lack of loyalty from Rom, less than a season into his nice long lucrative contract, you have to ask just why this state of affairs has been allowed to develop. Mirallas, Lukaku, Garbutt, and next?

Surely Bk could see this coming and should have acted at the first hint of trouble. Martinez is patently not a man-manager despite being good with words and should have gone after the appalling run over Christmas. Lukaku was happy enough to come here when it looked like we'd be challenging for honours, and I he had any guts, after his performances this season, he'd get his head down and try to help us achieve that goal by doing his job over the period of his contract.

He should be reminded he's not on loan any more, but a long term investment by a q who really wanted him when all the so -called 'big' teams backed away after his dismal world cup. Gratitude? Loyalty? Obviously not Belgian words if Rom and Kev's attitudes are to be believed. Give me a team of Naismiths, Osmans, Baineses, Jagielkas, etc, men who are proud to be Evertonian and ready to go out and do their best for the team every week even if they have a bad 'un now and then.

James Newcombe
214 Posted 14/02/2015 at 07:42:41
I think he's always seen us as a stepping stone. Romelu is still a very young man, and the transfer fee we paid was due to his enormous potential, as much as the here and now. We need to get behind him, and keep him until he starts to properly realise that potential - at least we can't make a loss that way.
Jim Bennings
215 Posted 14/02/2015 at 08:09:30
Take him out the firing line and give Kone three or four games to get some form going, it worked with Robles.

I just feel that as soon as one or twitching go wring for Lukaku against Leicester the supporters will destroy him, again leading to a ugly atmosphere.

Roberto spent all the time Kone was out injured bigging him up telling us what we were missing yet he's hardly played him since his return.

Back up your words man.

Pete Edwards
216 Posted 14/02/2015 at 08:18:41
Dave @187 it happened almost every other week under Moyes with the big haired one saying he wanted to move so donÂ’t use this as a stick to beat Martinez with
Amit Vithlani
217 Posted 14/02/2015 at 07:51:12
Wish Rom's dad a speedy recovery and hope he is able to visit GP soon.
Jim Bennings
218 Posted 14/02/2015 at 08:21:38
Agree that we need to start looking for more lads that will actually be happy to be here and work themselves harder for our club.

There are players in the Premier League that we need to be aiming at targeting this summer to steady this sinking ship of a club and bring some passion and hunger into it.

Look at 2003/04 season

Awful season but we signed two lads do or die lads, Cahill and Bent, it made a world of difference just having two guys who worked their tits off every week.

Naismith and McCarthy both do this as do maybe Jagielka, Stones and Coleman.

But we could be a different team altogether by just finding a striker or two who will work and put himself in a position to get hurt if it means scoring a goal for Everton F.C.

Charlie Austin and Danny Ings are not big fancy names but either one of these lads would show more commitment than Lukaku who can even be arsed busting a gut to stay onside.

Andy Meighan
219 Posted 14/02/2015 at 08:20:10
"I got a great reception off the Chelsea fans, they know IÂ’m a great player." Well, you get a great reception off our fans EVERY week and, guess what, the majority of us think youÂ’re shite.

Now he may well have been misquoted but heÂ’s been linked to these type of comments before. The only reason heÂ’s at Everton is because no-one apart from the Spaniard rated him. I will say this, though: if anyone comes in for him in the summer, and I doubt they will, thereÂ’s not a prayer Everton would get 㿈M. It would be nearer 㾻M.

The lump has got an over-inflated ego and is so full of himself, it’s untrue. Switch the lights off on your way out, you cunt. ThereÂ’s lads in League Two just as good. Let’s face it, they couldnÂ’t do any worse.

Tony Abrahams
220 Posted 14/02/2015 at 08:42:03
The kid’s emotions must surely be all over the place. He was happy to sign for Everton, but itÂ’s been a bad year all round. The manager who was giving him a lot of confidence last year (remember Arsenal) has slowly been destroying it with our tactics this year.

I think if the kid was doing himself justice, we wouldnÂ’t have had this reaction, and it must be hard for him that his father has not been well.

"Age gives you life experience, but this man mountain is really just a boy".

It might be stating the obvious, but something really is wrong at Everton just now. Especially when you shut your eyes and think back to that Arsenal game.

Allan Board
221 Posted 14/02/2015 at 08:49:10
Pretentious twat. All not well with his game so he blames it on anything but his own short comings. Worst control of any striker in this league, poor finisher, lazy and needs to learn the offside rule.

Get back in training and work your nuts off till it clicks again and stop being so disrespectful to Everton. Fuck me, another big time Charlie who thinks he’s God. Dear me.

Steve Brown
223 Posted 14/02/2015 at 10:27:49
As some-one who has defended him a lot, I find these comments indefensible. A spell on the bench alongside Mirallas should tone down his hubris a bit.
Steve Brown
224 Posted 14/02/2015 at 10:32:24
If it doesn't, sell them both.
Brian Harrison
225 Posted 14/02/2015 at 10:38:39
Lyndon, part of your defense of Lukaku is that he has scored 7 league goals this season so far in a misfiring team. Well, at present Charlie Austin 13, Danny Ings 9, Berahino 10 and they are all playing for teams below us in the table and none cost even half the fee we paid for Lukaku. Even the guy we sold, Jelavic, has scored the same number as Lukaku.

We can get Ings at the end of the season for peanuts so maybe sell Lukaku if anyone will give us in excess of 㾶 million and buy Ings. Then everyone is happy, we get in a goalscorer, will save money on wages, and we ship out the waste of space formerly known as Lukaku.

Kunal Desai
226 Posted 14/02/2015 at 10:25:04
Listen, I don't know why many are getting infuriated here... what he said may well have been misinterpreted and taken out of context. If not, then so what if the guy has ambition to play at a bigger club some point down the line, it's not like anyone here would say no to a better salary, better job/career prospects at a bigger company.

Lukaku will probably end up leaving in 2-3 seasons time by which he will be around 24-25, taking what he has learned at Everton, and providing he has bagged 15+ goals consistently each season by then, he'll do even better at a bigger club, with better players around him. We are not getting Champions League football any time in the near future so his long term ambitions will lie elsewhere.

Long gone are the days when Everton were a big club; unless a Billionaire comes along sometime soon, nothing changes at the club. People should accept that we are simply a stepping stone to players leveraging a move eventually to become winners.

All the arguements put forward recently all point back to one area and that is the hierarchy of this club, if we want success and improvement then start turning nasty against Kenwright and the rest of the pricks who are on the Board of Directors.

Kunal Desai
227 Posted 14/02/2015 at 11:21:10
#76 - Peter Morris. "Do I think Chelsea are a bigger club that Everton? – not in a million years, all fur coat, no knickers and absolutely zero history." – We are talk about the now and present. Everton WERE a big club once upon a time, before the inception of the Premier League. They have not been a big club since those days. One trophy in 25 years is not acceptable for a "big club". Chelsea are a big club in the modern era of football. They may have zero history pre-1992 but we have zero history post-1992.

"Most of their fans have been recruited in the last decade but the fact is they have more money to buy success – and nowadays, that is the definition of "big". – Not sure I buy the 'recruited more fans' line. It's the same for most clubs which goes through transformational change. An attract product/service is on offer so naturally more people are willing to see it and buy it.

It's not just the buying power of clubs like Chelsea that make them big but also the infrastructure they have around – training facilities, investment in their youth academies, corporate sponsorship to name a few. There is no comparing Samsung with Chang. Chelsea are run as a global business, those who make strategic business decisions for the better of the club, not like the fools who we have who just plod along each day without any hope of driving forward the club. It isn't just the money.

Nick Entwistle
228 Posted 14/02/2015 at 11:49:24
If a Wolves fan came up to you in the 80s and said they were a big club, today Chelsea fans would be forgiven responding to us in the same way.

Colin Glassar
229 Posted 14/02/2015 at 11:54:38
Just seen Bally smash in the winner against the RS in the 1967 FA cup. Check it out on the Everton videos section.

Like the song said;

Those were the days my friend
We thought they'd never end..........

Jon Withey
230 Posted 14/02/2015 at 12:36:06
I'd rather we had someone with half his talent who played his heart out for the club than this mercenary.

Get rid please.

If Martinez wants to represent the club then he needs to act on stuff like this.

Otherwise, get rid please.

If it is Tabloid lies then I take both comments back.

Bill Gall
231 Posted 14/02/2015 at 13:37:59
Ian (#198), Your comment that "BK is indirectly to blame".

My take is that BK is directly to blame as he hired RM without doing a thorough background check on his Premier League credentials and just hired him for beating Everton and winning the FA Cup.

Despite BK giving his normal speech of "I have been 24/7 on the phone talking to football people all over Europe", the feeling is he spoke to Dave Whelan about Martinez as soon as David Moyes informed him he was leaving.

James Hughes
232 Posted 14/02/2015 at 14:23:11
Kunal #227 Is making a lot of valid points, we are a big club BUT not a top club.

The money is pouring into football but we are run by amateurs. The sky 4 are bringing in excellent merchandising deals and we have a few bob thrown in our direction.

Example -"Bill, itÂ’s dave from kitbag, guess what that corner shop in St. Helens has agreed to take some stock!!! "

Jackie Barry
233 Posted 14/02/2015 at 14:28:30
If I was a player would I be looking to play for a more ambitious club in the future? probably if I am honest. In truth this is just giving us the harsh reality of what Everton have been turned into.
Terry Bolger
234 Posted 14/02/2015 at 15:19:59
Get real! It looks like we are stuck with him; who wants a centre-forward who can't head the ball? (He has only scored two with his head.) He can't trap the ball, he can't shield the ball... in fact, he can't do anything with the ball.
Sean Kelly
235 Posted 14/02/2015 at 15:42:10
If this is LukakuÂ’s way of saying Billy and Bobby have no ambition then fair enough. But if its for his pocket then he can do one.
Teddy Bertin
236 Posted 14/02/2015 at 15:38:22
If you were a young footballer playing in a foreign leagu,e wouldn't you aspire to play in the top competitions for the top clubs?

Not an outrageous opinion to have. He came here to play first team football and develop. Doesn't say he wants to leave now or not see out his contract.

He's here to do a job, not become a lifelong Evertonian. Also he was talking to a Belgian newspaper and comments have been translated. Using Google translate! Anyone think of getting it properly translated before kicking off?

Even if he did say that one day he would like to play for a club playing regularly in the Champions League and attracting the world's best players, what's wrong with that? We're not that and haven't been for years. He's only 21 but his comments are often fair more rational and intelligent than a lot on here.

Andy Walker
237 Posted 14/02/2015 at 16:00:22
Arrogance is a characteristic of Martinez, so no surprise that he recruits arrogant players like Lukaku & Eto'o.

Our record signing doesn't even deserve a place in the team, but no doubt our arrogant, ignorant, feckless manager will see it differently. Trouble is neither Martinez nor Lukaku have earned the right to be arrogant as they have achieved fuck all relative to the top performers in their profession.

Did you see WBA destroy West Ham in the Cup? Just shows what a good manager who can recognise the strengths and weaknesses of his players, combined with a compatible style of play relative to his players abilities, can achieve. Pulis is 10 times the manager Martinez will ever be.

Jim Bennings
238 Posted 14/02/2015 at 16:53:41
Andy

Spot on.
Pulis doesn't get the credit he deserves for looking sounding or looking stylish.

He certainly goes about his business in a far more quiet way not one for the superlatives of Martinez but his results yield more substance than Roberto.

Jackie Barry
239 Posted 14/02/2015 at 17:00:26
Yeah a fantastic manager, sound like when Wigan tore us apart in the cup. Oh, yeah guess who was their manager that day.
Glen Garrett
241 Posted 14/02/2015 at 18:10:07
Lukaku he wont get into a top club because he isn't doing it for Everton simple as that. How dose he expect to play for a top club when he can't even score for Everton?

As far as I am concern Everton payed well over the odds for him Chelsea saw Martinez coming simple as that. Everton should just sell him for no less than 㿈 million and get there money back and buy a couple of decent forwards who have got what it takes to score week in week out unlike Lukaku. He is way to far up his own arse hole.

He is the one of the reasons to why Everton are in the shite they are in because he cant score for toffee. Personally I think Lukaku should be playing in the Championship. Let's face it, he isn't no Graham Sharp or Gary Linker now when they were Everton playing forwards they were what you call on the money. Who dose he think he is. Cash in on him before it's too late...

Matt Muzi
242 Posted 14/02/2015 at 19:55:44
If Lukaku wants to play for a top club then he needs to be a top player, as everyone who has watched him this season knows, off the ball and especially when he gets the ball, knows he is not a top player by a long way. Someone needs to sit him down and explain to him how poor he has been this season.

If we could sell him tomorrow and get 㿀+ million for him (which I don't think we could), I'd sell him in a heartbeat, even if it meant taking a loss. We all knew that we had paid over the odds for him in the summer, but we hoped that he would develop, with his age and ability. Clearly he has done far from develop this season.

His performances have angered me all season and if he has made these comments then it is just adding insult to injury.

Colin Glassar
243 Posted 14/02/2015 at 21:29:05
Breaking news. Apparently Lukaku also said he had offers from Juventus and Wolfsburg but turned them down because he's happy at Everton.

Looks like the scum nit picked a few lines and twisted them to their own ends. Scum bags.

Colin Grierson
244 Posted 14/02/2015 at 22:09:28
It seems to me the press don't like us and are out to stir things up. I think we should tell the press 'no comment' for the foreseeable. If anyone wants to leave then they will go. Once a blue always a blue is only for the fans.
Andy Walker
245 Posted 15/02/2015 at 09:52:03
Jackie, Phil Neville tore us apart that day if you remember. Self inflicted.
Colin Glassar
246 Posted 15/02/2015 at 10:06:51
Spurs now strongly linked to Rom. Okay, let's do a Levy on them, ie, 㿞m up front. They like to play hardball, pay the asking fee or piss off.

Laugh of the day? Seamus linked to Bayern Munich. Do these morons (they're not really journos are they?) sit around a table and decide what lies to publish the next day?

Rob Halligan
247 Posted 15/02/2015 at 10:17:51
What's even funnier, Colin, is West Ham also being linked to Lukaku. Regularly playing in the Champions(hip) League!!
Mike Green
248 Posted 15/02/2015 at 10:14:59
Colin #244 - "I think we should tell the press 'no comment' for the foreseeable."

Too right. It's not like we get decent coverage any way, even Our Kid (a Red) calls The Times "The Liverpool Fanzine". The rest of the papers are no better and then let's get onto Sky.....

Shut up shop and do the talking on the pitch.

Joe Bibb
249 Posted 15/02/2015 at 11:11:30
If Lukaku is a STAR. Then we live in a very dark Universe.
Ant Summers
250 Posted 15/02/2015 at 18:38:36
I'm pissed off with overpaid overhyped players. He will be lucky to hit 15 goals this season... that makes him average.
Sean Roberts
251 Posted 15/02/2015 at 17:48:08
I can't believe so many are being drawn in by this !!! The media twist every word that players say to make it suit themselves, as most of the media are kopites we shouldn't be surprised by them trying to rock our boat !!! Get behind the team because boy do they need us at the minute !!! Coyb's
Jay Murphy
252 Posted 16/02/2015 at 13:00:35
Lukaku has got the potential to be a great player but at times he's far too lazy for my liking and (as said above) offside often and moping about.

Yes, these comments are disrespectful but he's a young lad with big ambitions – you can't blame him for answering honestly to them questions... we've been poor this season.

We need to give him the service to his feet and not complete 78,000 passes before he gets it. He's shit at holding the ball up, he needs to improve in this area. He's a beast at running at players and getting in behind.

What's happened to Kone? He's hardly given a chance... he looked half-decent when he's played but he needs more time. What's the point in buying him if you're not going to use him? Martinez has no Plan B; pass, pass, pass doesn't always work and teams have got onto us.

Mirallas is a boss player but, if he wants to go, let him go. Someone new will come in and replace him... I've learned us fans love footy as a hobby but it's their job and most of them are not arsed nowadays – no loyalty.

Michael Kenrick
253 Posted 20/02/2015 at 15:49:14
So Roberto now says, a week later and with the benefit of a brilliant European hat-trick that proves Roms love for Everton, that these comments were "a little bit out of context"?!?

"There has been a lot written about that – there was a conversation taken a little bit out of context after the Chelsea game.

"It was clearly someone looking for a headline about if Rom wanted to perform in order to come back to Chelsea, and his answer probably didn't reflect what he meant."

Sorry, Roberto, but that's BS of the highest order. He clearly knew exactly what he was saying and plenty has been written to rationalize it. So to have you now come out with this "little bit out of context" crap is nothing short of pathetic.

Colin Glassar
254 Posted 20/02/2015 at 16:02:00
I've just read that Lukaku is the 5th most prolific goal scorer in the Premier League since 2012. His stats for a young man of his age are simply outstanding: 98 league goals in just over 200 games.

We need to protect and nurture him, let him develop and support him.


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