Everton hit with fine for Chelsea flare-up

Scandalous

It is utterly ridiculous.

i note in Mourinho's recent spoilt-brat rants agains the PL, he conveniently overlooks what Chelsea got away with here. At least, Martinez isn't like that - albeit with the price of his happy-clappy ideology

Winning at any costs, including with cheating, is lingua franca in the PL (and Britain) these days, the chief perpetrators being Man Utd and Chelsea. We are the only club in the PL who don't consistently play that particular game, I think.

History will remember Mourinho and his cheating deeds, but it will be a lie, like all history. Ditto the appalling, cheating Ferguson at Man Utd whose achievements are nil in my view.

This is the kind of everyday episode in the PL that takes me further and further way from supporting a football team. It's all become a set-piece theatre, with a pre-set outcome.

If you like your sport to be theatre, join Messrs Mourinho and Ferguson in the new world order (unfair but with a necessarily predictable outcome), one created to massage their insatiable, ugly egos. If you like sport to be sport (fair but unpredictable), turn away and look elsewhere.

There’s definitely a conspiracy againt chelsea I mean fining them for this....... totally unacceptable! We should offer to pay their half for them

Absurd.

If we don't contest this then we're spineless.

There's no point in contesting it. They have seen all the evidence we could possibly hand over and still landed on the side of absurdity.

The main head scratcher is, of course, how Ivanovic gets away with it while both teams are fined.

Phil, there is a point to contesting it: to further highlight the absurdity, to show we are not a small club that will roll over. We should even threaten legal action on account of how grisly unfair it is

That would get media attention and the FA and EPL would think twice about crossing Everton

Remember when Moyes threatened Jose with legal action for calling A Johnson a diver? Jose retracted his words and issued an apology

Are we small little plucky Everton grateful to eat at the top table or are we going to start fighting for even portions and try to actually achieve something? This is important to set a marker down

Fined for not letting our player get assaulted more like. Total bollocks.

Please excuse my unparliamentary language but fuck Chelsea and mourinho. And fuck the FA. Cunts the lot of them.

As a point of principle we should draw a line and refuse to accept this. Can ANYONE show who or where we failed to control our players? Forgive me for saying this but our dead pan, passionless team must be on tranquilisers before each game because they showed no aggression during the incident, no leadership from the captain and even when held in a headlock no resistance from the player concerned.
Let me ask you, would Peter Reid have done nothing? We have no balls in this team, no passion, no fight, no aggression, no desire. We are a team going through the motions because no one has the balls to say to RM that this is crap, it's not working and we need to fight for every dammed point, for every tackle, for every decision and intimidate referees and the opposition. Enough of this bullshit, possession without penetration is pointless, literally. That's the message for RM.
The Premier League is a ruthless corporation that takes no prisoners. To succeed in it you need a ruthless board, a ruthless manager and a ruthless team at its core. There is no place for experimenting philosophies as a manager or player you have to be fast thinking and adapt, or die.
Chelsea, their manager and their team are ruthless in approach, but they get respect and influence. At the moment we are too easy, too nice. No balls.

Well said Christine

Are we going to show any fight, any aggression anywhere?

There goes the summer transfer kitty.

It just doesn't matter. The club is going to pay it out of petty cash. I would like to see the club show a little backbone, but let's not make too big of an issue over an incident that happened nearly a month ago. It's history!

All of our righteous indignation isn't going to amount to a hill beans. Nothing we do or say is going to change anything. Time to move on.

The only spineless entity here is the FA. Absurd & totally hypocritical to fine us for not controlling our players etc & then take no action against Ivanovic for the incident with McCarthy!? They were clearly concerned not to upset that cheating prick Mourinho and his ridiculous mind games about how everyone is against Chelsea. The FA are so completely out of touch it's almost obscene!

The FA and the EPL have lost all credibility. The game is corrupt, it's as plain as the nose on your face. From referees "managing a game" to Sky highlighting every single little decision that goes against their favoured clubs. It's following wrestling.

I'm sick of this fucking so-called sport. The money has killed the game. Honour is dead. Liars and cheaters are venerated and honest players are lambasted for not being "cute" enough.

We shouldn't be more like Mourinho, he and they should be more like us. And those money orientated FA cunts are supposed to be the last vanguard of sportsmanship – instead, they're at the front of the queue of vampires. It's a working class sport that's been hijacked for commercial purposes and the sooner they fuck off, the better.

Football really is a vile indulgence at times.

The game is corrupt and played by cheats. Consider the expression...... "He WON a penalty"..... Discuss.

We all have this "woe is us" mentality. I'm sick and tired of it and I'm sick and tired of Everton. We can stand down (like always) and be happy with being an "also-ran" of a club or a "sleeping giant."

Christine is right, of course. The powers that be at our club have ruined us. They don't care. They make tons of money. The manager doesn't care, he barely cares about anything other than hyperbole.

Who's going to stand up?? No one, that's who. Again and again... Unbelievable.

Perhaps we should wrangle then Sam! And I agree with Christine - possession without penetration is pointless. Try telling the wife that though!

The club should fight this, they also should turn up with a few frames of film from the WWE match within a game that went on when Ivanovich tries to open a can of whoopass on Macca.
I fucking hate Chelsea.

Christine (10) and John (15) both excellent posts; we should fight this decision because it is so obviously wrong and we should stand up and not pay the fine without a legal fight.

John, you describe the way football is today and it is in a very grim and snidey state – one that makes a lot of supporters question why we carry on watching the game. We need someone in authority to stand up and say this just can't go on without destroying the whole fairness and integrity of football itself.

But money talks and, of course, it will carry on like this... only it will get worse.

The system is a complete shambles as witnessed with the four game ban meted out to Palace's Jedinak getting a four game ban for violent conduct - I haven't seen the incident but I believe it was merited.

However, the fact that the Referee claims not to have seen it means the player can be retrospectively punished but if the Referee had seen it and took no action at the time, nothing can be done.

I'm also in agreement with Alan Pardew's comment that the Sky pundits are heavily influencing what happens at the FA regarding incidents of this nature and that surely cannot be right as the pundits have favourite teams of their own and can hardly be described as impartial by any stretch of the imagination.

If violent conduct is seen in retrospect it doesn't matter whether the official dealt with it or not it should be punished accordingly. After all, didn't Sunderland escape a player being banned due to retrospective action, because the official made a mistake on the day of the game?

Just refuse to pay.
What are they going to do? Kick us out the FA?

I heard Jonathan Pierce say in commentary of a Chelsea game recently (Burnley) that you have to use the dark arts in order to win (or something like that). I was raging when I heard that.

I think the FA (apt acronysm) scan each match for any slight misdemenour, boot laces undone they will ponder a fine and god forbid a crisp packet blowing across the pitch and it's any chance of them lining their jobsworth' pockets.
Hate to say it but they make Septic Blatter look like he earns an honest wage.
Christine above, top posting that.

We ought to formally contest this. Chelski have got away with it again and if the boot had been on the other foot we'd have been to 10 men. We can still keep our dignity when appealing because we are Everton and a class above the other shower despite all their money and trophies.

It's difficult to know who to be most angry at (O:

Ivanovic, "the Ref", our spineless players/manager/club hierarchy, BT, SKY ..list in endless.

Sadly I can't see any scope for change, when the thing's rotten from top near enough to bottom.

Last bit of good sportsmanship witnessed at a top level game? Was it Di Canio..... and no I don't mean him shoving Alcock over (classic though that was)... him catching the ball to stop play at Goodison.

Gotta face it all again tomorrow... please someone tell me its not on BT (think we might have a 100% no-win record with that shower).

Alastair - BT are covering the Man Utd v Newcastle Utd game, you'll be glad to know. But the game at the Emirates last Sunday was our sixth successive live game on TV a record for the Blues apparently. As for our record with BT or its predecessor ESPN it must be a very very low win percentage for Everton when they cover our games.

Alastair as far as I know, BT have shown Everton live eleven times we have won once. drawn three and lost seven the only win coming at Stevenage last January.

My thoughts exactly, Paul Dark #2, that's why I am taking a back seat and picking the odd game to watch now. I just cant be arsed anymore... and Christine, that was the best post I've seen in a long time, ......Nail, head!

Alastair the excellent and amazingly detailed Evertonresults.com has a breakdown and summary of every game that has been covered live by broadcasters since the first game way back in 1948. Here is the link:

Live Summary

John Gee. We'll said, pal. My thought exactly.

I'd fallen out if love in football a couple of years ago, but last season lured me back, just to have the bubble burst again as I see the gulf between he monied clubs and the almost monied.

There's no point playing the games . May as well decide the title in August by comparing bank balances. Those with most cash can buy the fancy players, wreck other teams and pay off on officials at any level.

The recent defeat by PSG in the CL exposed Chelsea for what they are, gross intimidators of the highest class. They falsify, exaggerate and cheat. Strange that it goes unnoticed at a EPL game but gets plastered over worldwide media in another. They should be made an example of for bringing the game into disrepute, the fine against Everton should be dropped and doubled against Chelsea.
There is a line that needs to be drawn by referees, by the FA - you can only go so far. the referee should have booked every single one of them as an example..