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Martinez: League situation is 'unacceptable'

12/03/2015  Comments (66)  jump
Roberto Martinez has admitted that Everton's dire Premier League situation is "unacceptable" but while he says they'll be ready for Sunday's clash with Newcastle, the focus is on tonight's clash with Dynamo Kyiv.

The Blues have struggled to pick up just six wins on the League so far and have 28 points from their 28 games to this point. That has left the club just six points off the relegation zone and the manager under increasing scrutiny.

Martinez isn't shying away from his team's disappointing domestic performances or the shrinking margin of error in the League but he is confident in the strength of his squad.

For us as a football club, the position we are in is unacceptable," he said. "At the end of the season, we need to look at why it has happened. But for the time being, we need to show a real desire to win.

The position we are in is not good enough, I'm not hiding from it, but that is Sunday. Tomorrow is a chance to get in the final eight of the Europa League. That's not easy. We are the only English team left and there must be a reason for that. You don't get this opportunity often.

You cannot underestimate the amount of work and effort that has gone into this competition at the club over the last 18 months, he continued. One competition shouldn't get in the way of the other. When we built the squad at the start of the season it was with playing in Europe in mind. That hasn't changed. We have a strong enough squad to face the two competitions."  

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Brian Murray
2 Posted 12/03/2015 at 05:39:40
Talk is cheap, Roberto. Now do something about it, like starting with a win on Sunday
Peter McHugh
3 Posted 12/03/2015 at 06:26:01
I disagree Brian. Win tonight.
Play one game at a time.
Chris Gould
4 Posted 12/03/2015 at 06:25:24
If he had just added, "I take my share of responsibility and accept that I have made mistakes." – That would have gone some way to appeasing fans.

But I agree with the sentiment and the message. Much better, Roberto.

Brian Murray
5 Posted 12/03/2015 at 07:33:53
A win tonight would be nice Peter but three points on Sunday is more important.
Seb Niemand
6 Posted 12/03/2015 at 07:39:47
Hollow words from a hollow man. If he had a germ of decency in his body, he would resign.
James Stewart
7 Posted 12/03/2015 at 07:43:19
Don’t have a problem with this but he should have been saying it at Christmas time. The defeats to Stoke, Hull etc are unacceptable and were at such a poor level change is needed. Martinez’s words mean nothing as he won’t adapt to win. Rogers’s head was on the block and he changed it up. Martinez won’t. Simple as that
Matt Traynor
8 Posted 12/03/2015 at 07:49:19
James #7, you are right in what you say about Rodgers, but the other thing is that lot have a vocal fanbase, and a Board that are not afraid to act – in spite of what the fans think. They were brave enough to bin a "club legend" in Dalglish, to bring Rodgers in.

Whether or not you think we have a vocal fanbase, do you think we have a strong Board that will act if they feel they need to in the interests of the club? The only time they’ve been decisive in the last decade was Kirkby, and that could be argued was in their own interests (facilitating a sale) rather than the long -term interests of EFC.

Nick Armitage
9 Posted 12/03/2015 at 07:55:20
Matt, that’s a good point, but the apathy in our fan base is probably due to us being resigned to perpetual shite. Nothing has or will change with Kenwright. He talks as much shit as Roberto.

As for the game, Martinez will be forced to change something by dropping Barry v Newcastle but he’s a one-trick pony who’s just totally out of his depth. Repeated relegation battles with an established Premier League club speaks volumes. I didn’t want him here in the first place and I wish he’d go now. We could do far better if Kenwright knew anything about football. Martinez Out.

Chris Gould
10 Posted 12/03/2015 at 07:58:23
He should have gone, but he didn’t and won’t be going anywhere soon.

I recently got my license to post revoked for a crass one-liner about Martinez. I emailed Lyndon and apologised. He explained to me that they tend to remove one-liners that don’t really offer anything to the discussion, and that they have recently made the decision to start filtering out the more foul-mouthed/abusive name-calling of Everton staff and players.

I actually felt a little ashamed. Constantly abusing and slagging off RM is now boring and pointless. We really should get behind him and the team for the remainder of the season and then regroup in the summer. Decisions need to be made, but now isn’t the right time so no point in banging on about it.

Chris Gould
11 Posted 12/03/2015 at 08:16:26
BTW I’m not saying that any of the above comments are rude or abusive or even unreasonable... just a bit pointless.
Jimmi James
12 Posted 12/03/2015 at 08:34:43
Chris, you’re right, the abuse will do no good, we mostly all know what we want but how to achieve it is another matter. The verbals don’t help at all but it’s just frustration, I think... well, it is with me. I wouldn’t say it’s pointless though as we have to have some way of voicing our concerns but that time has passed now so let’s just get on with it and get behind the team; after all, that’s what we do isn’t it – just get on with it.
Colin Grierson
14 Posted 12/03/2015 at 08:31:52
As an occasional pundit and with his smiley and charming character, RM has earned himself some grace with the media and that perhaps is why they havenÂ’t turned on him yet.

My theory though is that the media couldnÂ’t give a toss what we do either way. Would it be big news if we were to change our manager? They played down our achievements last year, or at least ignored us as much as they could and now they are ignoring our demise with the same disdain.

The interest of the media lies with the Sky rich clubs. They briefly snigger at us when we are doing badly and briefly admire our plucky attempts to join the elite group when we do well.

I agree with the sentiment that actions are what Â’s required, starting with a good performance in the Europa League and followed by a win in the Premier League.

RM has to give press conferences and field inevitable questions. Whatever he says will be construed in a different way by those who defend him and those who attack him.

I think he is right about one thing. At the end of the season, an inquest MUST take place as to why this season has been so dire. For now though, it is time to get behind the team. Boo them off at the end if you want BUT roar them on during the game. LetÂ’s close the Goodison library!

Terence Leong
15 Posted 12/03/2015 at 08:42:32
Whatever we feel about the Board and Martinez, it is only in the clubÂ’s (and by that I donÂ’t mean the ownersÂ’ & the BoardÂ’s) interests that we will the team towards finishing this season well.

By that, I mean, as high up and boy, I want to see our players hold the Europa trophy aloft.

The time for inquisition and protests etc is at the end of the whistle of the final game of the season. Not now.

Win the cup, give the fans something to cheer about. And I still think while fans can feel entitled to boo (paying crazy money to support the club), I just think it doesnÂ’t help anyone, not least those on the field for each of the 90 minutes.

Let the 12th man be an effective one.

Andrew Ellams
16 Posted 12/03/2015 at 08:44:59
Chris, do you log into the live forum? That seems to be the centre for personal abuse on TW. Although Lyndon and Michael have taken action there too recently so fair play to them.

As for RobertoÂ’s comments in the OP, too little, too late for me.

Denis Richardson
17 Posted 12/03/2015 at 08:53:42
Better late than never I guess although like some above I would have expected comments like this from him about 2 months ago.

What happended to the strong 2nd half of the season when Atsu would Â’explodeÂ’.

LetÂ’s start doing the talking on the pitch.

Martin Jamieson
18 Posted 12/03/2015 at 08:55:01
First ever comment... really love the site. Long time blue of 50+ years and grew up in Merseyside but now live in Canada. This site is a wonderful way to keep up with the best club on the planet.

I feel compelled to comment this morning based on ChrisÂ’s points above. IÂ’ve been reading lots of criticism some warranted and some not about RM and the players over the last few months but I wholeheartedly agree that now it is critical to resist a lot of that and get behind him and the team and show them the real passion and support that is uniquely Everton.

RM comes in for a lot of stick for his use of certain words like Â’phenomenalÂ’... for a long time IÂ’ve thought this is unfair as we ought to realize that English is not his mother tongue and he will have a much more restricted vocabulary in English than we have and finding the right word in a media scrum can be really difficult for him.

Final point is something that I learned from being involved in managing and coaching ice hockey in Canada and this is something for the team.... one of the key mantras over there is that they say ’Put the puck on the net and good things happen’ – Everton could do with following that advice.....get the damn ball into the area and have a go, you never know, something good might happen!!


Chris Gould
20 Posted 12/03/2015 at 09:01:54
I agree, Jimmi, we all need to vent, and we have every right to be frustrated, but heÂ’s here for the remainder of the season and criticising his every word is getting tedious.

Andrew, itÂ’s too little too late for me too.

From the mail online:
"I donÂ’t look to blame anyone. Football is a game of errors and the responsibility is mine. I will always accept that. I am not going to change now. The team is performing in a manner that we should have got more points. But the reality is we have got 28 points. Now every game is a final."

IÂ’m going to only focus on the first 3 lines which are a breakthrough of sorts, and try really hard not to react to the 3 nonsensical lines that follow or I will be outed as a complete hypocrite.

Tony Hill
21 Posted 12/03/2015 at 09:31:11
I agree with most of the comments here. I think RM should have gone in January and should go in the summer on all available evidence, but I find his words here, however belated they may be, encouraging. If he speaks clearly and honestly and avoids meaningless PR then he goes a significant way towards lessening the irritation he has caused among supporters.

Of course, performance is what matters but I share the view that we have largely said what needs to be said about the many disappointments, and we can now look to enjoy the EL for as long as it lasts and to give maximum support as part of the effort to get ourselves safe. I am sure we all will, and then we can take stock.

This season does not have to be a disaster.

Helen Mallon
22 Posted 12/03/2015 at 09:42:58
Anyway team for tonight

Howard (I would play Robles)
Barry (I would play Gibbo)
Subs: Naismith, Robles, Kone, Gibson, Osman, Henen, Alcaraz.

Helen Mallon
23 Posted 12/03/2015 at 10:02:17
I did not pick Besic, we need a win tonight and he will be better utilised in the away leg as we defend a lead (I hope).
Patrick Murphy
24 Posted 12/03/2015 at 09:54:31
Reading between the lines of what Roberto has said and what Naismith said about the Everton players playing for their futures, I think Roberto will be given until at least the early part of next season, unless of course results in the PL continue in the same vein as the last few months.

I also find it funny that although our PL form was similar prior to the Young Boys fixture, the local and national media didn’t seem too interested in what was happening to Everton, but now that their favourites are out of the competition there is a negative feel about the coverage of this tie with Kiev – I’m sure they would want an English side to progress wouldn’t they?

Mind you having witnessed some of the media coverage surrounding ChelseaÂ’s demise perhaps they prefer particular English clubs to do well on the European stage. Come on Blues weÂ’ve come this far we may as well go all the way.

Max Murphy
25 Posted 12/03/2015 at 10:00:16
Only now does he state our league position is "unacceptable." He should have been saying after each poor game (which was most of them) that the performance was "unacceptable", instead of the bull-shit he spouted: "phenomenal character", "great energy" etc.

Yes, he definitely shouldÂ’ve gone at Christmas.

As for tonight, I can see Howard gifting them a precious away goal, which will put us out of the competition – Phenomenal!

Ross Edwards
26 Posted 12/03/2015 at 10:22:54
He contradicted himself later in the interview. He said: Â’Football is a game of errors and the responsibility is mine. I will always accept that. I am not going to change now.

So he admits he has made mistakes and has taken the responsibility, but he is still refusing to change?

Sam Hoare
27 Posted 12/03/2015 at 10:38:09
This interview is at least a step in the right direction. Acknowledging that what we have seen is not good enough rather than hiding behind excuses.

At the moment I want Martinez gone but IÂ’m open to him persuading me otherwise. Accepting responsibility, acknowledging the need to do much better and getting a good win tonight would be a decent start...

David Ellis
28 Posted 12/03/2015 at 10:41:09
I have been all for backing Martinez... but I have to say I am beginning to waiver. But I would worry more if he suddenly decided to make drastic changes to his tactics. He just needs to get the team to perform like last season. I donÂ’t believe his style is ineffective, its just ineffective in the way we are currently implementing it (whereas last season it worked).

Some adjustment may need to be made to reflect the fact that with video scrutiny other teams have worked out how to play us in the Premier League, but that type of adjustment should I think be relatively minor, perhaps as simple as a few changes in personnel; not a repudiation of the managerÂ’s lifetime philosophy.

Brian Harrison
29 Posted 12/03/2015 at 10:37:59
I think this smacks of the chairman telling him that our position is unacceptable and him now telling the press that itÂ’s unacceptable. The position was unacceptable 4 months back; instead of making statements about all the phenomenal players we had, he shouldÂ’ve been sorting the mess that he created.

As for players stating they are playing for their future, maybe thatÂ’s right and some have decided that at the end of the season their future may be with another club. This is not a one way decision in fact the players will have more say than the manager.

Maybe Coleman, Stones & Garbutt will be looking for new clubs; seems like Mirallas will be on his way and Atsu will be heading back to Chelsea.

Sean Kelly
30 Posted 12/03/2015 at 10:54:52
I hope itÂ’s not too late at the end of the season to see whatÂ’s gone wrong. With some luck but more importantly some points on the board we wonÂ’t be in the Championship. He should have changed things months ago but what can we do about it now?
Dave Abrahams
31 Posted 12/03/2015 at 11:04:31
I hope we retain our place in the Premier League, that’s my priority, that is the reason I buy my season ticket. Any success in cup competitions is a bonus – not the other way round.
Alan Freese
32 Posted 12/03/2015 at 11:05:03
It was unacceptable before Christmas, Martinez! Why has it taken you this long to realise this?

Unfortunately if this was the case in the first half of season, I could believe we would turn this around. But itÂ’s gone too far and I cannot see how this current form can change overnight? I think even the players have lost faith in Martinez...

I can see us winning tonight but then losing on Sunday which again will see the cracks covered up by a Europa win,

Tony Waring
33 Posted 12/03/2015 at 11:23:43
Yes, Roberto does say some stupid things... but I think half the problem is the fact that managers are now obliged by Sky to be interviewed. It’s part of "the deal" is it not? It never used to happen and I cannot remember Harry Catterick ever doing it – though I might be wrong.

If you are subjected to inane questioning from journalists who give the impression of knowing little about football – compared to the average fan – you are bound to come out with daft answers, especially when a match has only finished minutes beforehand when you haven’t had time to collect your thoughts.

Most managers are the same with the possible exception of Wenger who always seems to express himself well and usually honestly. Mourinho on the other hand is a bit of a pillock in many senses though I admit he does get results!

Alan Bodell
34 Posted 12/03/2015 at 11:24:35
We have no skilled ball players and only midfield wrecking balls so, although we all want to see nice passing etc, letÂ’s get through this season just doing a Pulis and then sign at least someone who can pass/thread a ball as we have no-one right now.

Please donÂ’t get me started on that 㿈M lump.

Stuart Critchley
35 Posted 12/03/2015 at 11:31:25
I hope he turns it around; the problem I have is, I just donÂ’t think thereÂ’s anyone out there who we could afford that would be any better?
Andy Meighan
37 Posted 12/03/2015 at 11:56:00
Probably the most sensible thing heÂ’s said all season but, as someone rightly pointed out, it shouldÂ’ve been said early January not now with games running out.
Andrew Ellams
39 Posted 12/03/2015 at 12:09:26
Alan, I think you might be doing some of our players an injustice there. Barry and Besic are both good passers of the ball and Coleman, Baines, Barkley and Mirallas can all scare the opposition on their day. But if they are playing a style of football that stifles their strengths then you will never get the best out of them. As for your 㿈M lump, who do you think would consistently score as many as him for less than 㿈M? Coming up for 50 goals in 3 seasons and still only 21.
Brian Harrison
40 Posted 12/03/2015 at 12:13:03
Tony (#33),

I agree that managers are having to respond within 20 minutes of the match finishing, and that can lead to stupid comments being made. Although RM just doesn’t reserve his stupid comments for after-match interviews – he speaks even greater nonsense when he gives interviews away from the matches.

I cant agree about your comments on Wenger giving an honest assessment: if an Arsenal player does something wrong, he says he never saw it but can tell you in detail everything the ref did wrong or fouls against Arsenal that went unpunished.

I think that it is worth remembering that, by and large they use these interviews to help placate the fans if you have lost or praise your team to the heavens if they have won.

Colin Grierson
41 Posted 12/03/2015 at 12:17:31
Why is it that some people have us beaten before weÂ’ve even played? Surely as Evertonians, the prerequisite is to be optimistic. ItÂ’s the hope that kills us, remember, not the despair!

Come on you Blue Boys!

Tony Abrahams
43 Posted 12/03/2015 at 12:11:46
Matt 8, the only time they acted decisive? KEIOC told them countless times it was a white elephant. Most Liverpool fans also wanted rid of Benitez until he did the unthinkable in 2005.

ItÂ’s been a terrible season but it would also be one of our finest if Martinez can also do the unthinkable too. LetÂ’s just get behind the team till the end!

Tony Marsh
45 Posted 12/03/2015 at 13:18:52
Martinez has to be given at least another season at the club. Moyes was given several chances to put things right, especially after the disaster that was the 2005-06 season.

You need only look across the park to see how a knee-jerk sacking would ruin a club. Last November, every Kopite fool in the country wanted Brenda sacked. Now look at them 5 months later.

Martinez does himself no favours with his team selections and poor use of subs. The signing of Lennon was also a huge mistake. The lad is beyond poor.

I donÂ’t see how we could sack Martinez after such a successful Europa League campaign? If we get through to the last 8 and we are safe in the Premier League, who knows what could happen?

Give the man a chance, I say. ItÂ’s not right to shout for the taxi after the most successful season in the EPL last year? As others have said, we canÂ’t afford to sack him anyway.

Gerard Carey
46 Posted 12/03/2015 at 13:38:29
If he would only change the game plan a bit and get the ball forward quicker. It would be nice to have a lead to take to the away leg.

I still think SundayÂ’s game is more important. If he sees our position as unacceptable, then maybe the penny has finally dropped. I wonÂ’t be holding my breath though.

Andrew Ellams
47 Posted 12/03/2015 at 14:11:52
Tony Marsh, I see what you are saying but to be fair Moyes didnÂ’t have anywhere near the quality in his squad that Martinez has at his disposal right now.

Also, I donÂ’t think admitting you have made a mistake once puts us in the same category as Liverpool or Spurs for knee jerk sackings. But, we are reliant on our wonderful board to avoid making that mistake again.

Patrick Murphy
48 Posted 12/03/2015 at 14:20:01
Tony - Ordinarily I would agree with you, however, the football itself this season has been mind numbingly boring and lacks any sort of conviction, regardless of the system employed.

Also, RobertoÂ’s signings havenÂ’t filled me with much confidence and that aspect allied to poor results doesnÂ’t bode well for next season, although I do think the board will give the first dozen games of next season to prove himself all over again.

John Keating
49 Posted 12/03/2015 at 14:12:26
To me, it would be pointless winning tonight and not winning on Sunday. The whole focus of the Club should be on the Premier League with Europe a distant secondary consideration.

It appears to me Martinez sees it oppositely.

Patrick Murphy
50 Posted 12/03/2015 at 14:25:40
John, According to Roberto, the club has spent the last 18 months planning for tonight and hopefully beyond, but if we are in a competition we should always aim to win it – that hasn’t always been the case even under Roberto.

The PL should always have been the priority and I donÂ’t buy into the argument made by some that we canÂ’t accommodate all the competitions that we enter, there will be a fall-off of performance in some games but this seasonÂ’s malaise has little to do with the Europa League distraction but rather the lack of application by the players in many of the domestic matches and the manager should have pounced on them as soon as he saw it happening.

Kristian Boyce
51 Posted 12/03/2015 at 14:26:49
Tony, Rodgers identified that the way they were playing was an issue and changed up the formation and the way they play. Martinez still hasnÂ’t figured it out and proclaims that his way will see them through. Unfortunately he has history with this and took Wigan down whilst keeping to his Â’philosophyÂ’, when it was glaringly obvious that it wasnÂ’t working.
Christine Foster
52 Posted 12/03/2015 at 14:39:42
As frustrated and disappointed as I am with the shambles of this season, I have to fully agree with Tony Marsh. RM has made some real stuff-ups, has refused to budge from his principles in how football should be played, to the detriment I might say of the team and strengths of the players. But he wants to do it the right way.

Contrary to the belief of many on here, I do not believe we are stacked full of good players.. and some of the better ones have been awful (contradiction in terminology, I know...) but the rigid format has lost us games because of the shortfalls in playing staff and the ability of individual players. The failure to adapt or the keeping of faith in a doomed system and poor players is a recipe for disaster.

Does it warrant his removal? Only if he doesnÂ’t learn to change...

Paul Tran
53 Posted 12/03/2015 at 15:09:19
Hold on Andrew, I keep hearing that Martinez inherited a good squad and was only 5th because of the Moyes players. I also keep hearing that his signings gave been shit. Where gave all these extra quality players come from?

Martinez is too cautious. Scared to have the necessary clear out of ageing players, scared to drop under-performing senior players, scared to pick the players heÂ’s brought to the club.

As a result weÂ’ve had a season of a confused team which neither attacks nor defends effectively, while being poor to watch.

IÂ’d accept a mid table season with struggling young players attacking the opposition, but not this.

Kevin Tully
54 Posted 12/03/2015 at 15:35:25
Marks out of 10 so far this season for our first team ; Howard - 2/10, Baines - 5/10, Jagielka - 5/10, Stones 6/10, Coleman - 5/10, Mirallas 5/10, McGeady 4/10, Besic 6/10, McCarthy 5/10, Barry 4/10, Lukaku 6/10.

ThereÂ’s part of the problem, theyÂ’ve all been shit. And Martinez.

Kevin Tully
55 Posted 12/03/2015 at 15:43:41
Sorry, Martinez 2/10. Would have been 1/10 but for Europe.
Andrew Ellams
56 Posted 12/03/2015 at 15:49:34
Paul, when I say 'better quality' I mean than the players Moyes had in his early days, in particular his disastrous second full season. You have to admit, what we have now should be way ahead of Wright, Weir, Naysmith, Kilbane, Pistone etc.
Zayn Zaffar
57 Posted 12/03/2015 at 15:26:31
My team for today:

Coleman Stones Jagielka Garbutt
Atsu McCarthy Mirallas
Kone Lukaku

Anto Meehan
58 Posted 12/03/2015 at 15:46:20
Unfortunately weÂ’re not fighting for 4th in the league this season, weÂ’re a bit too close for comfort to the relegation scrap at the moment but hopefully a couple of wins and that will be fine.

IÂ’d much rather have a shot at winning a European trophy than sitting around 7th in the table year after year after year after year after year.....

If we finish mid-table and win the Europa League... happy fucking days, I was 19 the last time we won anything. WeÂ’d be into the Champions League next season, which is what we need as a springboard to get back to winning titles again.


Al Reddish
59 Posted 12/03/2015 at 16:53:00
He didnÂ’t build a squad. He bought in Besic and fucked off on holiday.
Stephen Brown
60 Posted 12/03/2015 at 16:58:10
Many people post about the quality we have available and how poorly RM has done with what’s available – in fact I’ve said it myself!

I'm beginning to doubt this statement?! Are the players really that good? IÂ’m not so sure now!

Paul Kelly
61 Posted 12/03/2015 at 16:56:58
Cheers for that quote Chris,

El Bob says.
"At the end of the season, we need to look at why it has happened."

"I donÂ’t look to blame anyone. Football is a game of errors and the responsibility is mine. I will always accept that. I am not going to change now. The team is performing in a manner that we should have got more points."

I despair I really do, at the end of the season heÂ’ll look into whatÂ’s gone wrong, why not now when we need it hey Bob?

And he isnÂ’t going to change, so after tonight (in which I think weÂ’ll play well) heÂ’ll revert to type and weÂ’ll witness the same turgid togger weÂ’ve had too all season. He thinks we deserve more points, well IÂ’m not going to even comment on that in case I launch this PC whilst typing.

I hope everyone gives him hell from now on. HeÂ’s had enough support.

Jay Wood
62 Posted 12/03/2015 at 17:25:17
For those questioning if the players RM inherited were "ever that good any way", yes they were (and are) for many years under Moyes and their international teams and in RobertoÂ’s 1st season.

Many of them have clearly stagnated or regressed this season. Granted, that can happen with 1-2-3 players in a single season, but how do you explain and justify it for seemingly the collective, the entire squad?

What is the single common denominator that can explain that..?

Gavin Johnson
63 Posted 12/03/2015 at 17:38:09
I think lessons will be learnt this season in terms of transfers and pre-season, and with the announcement of the Singapore tour it looks like our season preparation will be more thorough. I'm also optimistic that there will be more players arriving than leaving – a big failing was that we stood still this time round with Besic being the only new face.
Harold Matthews
64 Posted 12/03/2015 at 16:14:05
You don't need to wait till the end of the season, Mr Martinez. The guy responsible for the poor performances stares at you in the mirror every morning. If I were to list your "unacceptable" decisions I would be here all day. Your continual use of the words "we" and "us" is completely out of order.
Ian Riley
65 Posted 12/03/2015 at 17:41:58
Are the players better than six points above the bottom three?

Yes! Do the players fear the manager? The interviews the manager gives does not seem to come across as angry with the players. The interview yesterday is the first time the league position is a concern.

How many goals have we scored in the in the last ten minutes of games? The lack of urgency and fight when we have gone behind or level is unacceptable. Even Barcelona fight to win the ball back, we don't earn the right to win games.

Time to get angry Mr Martinez with the players!

Darren Hind
66 Posted 12/03/2015 at 18:14:52
"Let's get to the last eight and worry about Sunday tomorrow."

I knew if I stuck around long enough, I would eventually agree with Roberto.

Come on Boys. I dream of hundreds of thousands of blues celebrating as we parade this trophy around the City.

Andy Crooks
67 Posted 12/03/2015 at 18:27:36
As the days pass the last shambles doesn't seem so poor. In fact, it seems that if we did not play for another week the poll on his future would show that we all love him.

We are a very forgiving bunch of supporters and a win tonight followed by another one on Sunday will see him looking good again. I really hope we get them but when we are, I hope, still a Premier League club in the summer, I just would dread another day of him.

Paul Tran
68 Posted 12/03/2015 at 19:40:34
Fair enough Andrew, point taken.
Andy Walker
69 Posted 12/03/2015 at 19:42:47
The team is a reflection of the manager:

- Lacking urgency
- Lacking commitment
- Lazy
- Predictable
- Nonsensical decision making
- Misplaced arrogance

The players are up for it in Europe though, why? - they see it as a chance to win something and enhance their CVs. The league, well there's no chance of winning anything or qualifying for Europe and relegation won't bother most of them as they think they can just jump ship and go somewhere else. Martinez has brought in many players that simply do not have the stomach for a fight, think they are better than they are, don't understand the tradition of our great club and are lazy. It's all a reflection of him.

Andy Walker
70 Posted 12/03/2015 at 19:51:03
Martinez lives in a different world to the one I work in. If your performance is totally unacceptable you just go, there's no one else to blame, you take personal responsibility, end of.
Stephen Daniels
71 Posted 12/03/2015 at 20:20:00
This manager has got to go. IÂ’ve had enough of his excuses, itÂ’s his ideas and his philosophy and his game plan thatÂ’s got us in this mess.
Mark Andersson
72 Posted 12/03/2015 at 23:45:28
Ross, when you re-quote Martinez saying football is a margin of errors, I don't believe he is admitting his errors, he is quite clearly shifting blame onto the players.

I did not watch the match tonight, but by all accounts nothing changed until the crowed got behind the team. If true then the Goodison faithful will have to replicate the same thing until the end of the season.

John Keating
73 Posted 13/03/2015 at 12:42:16
Sunday will probably pan out like last night. Martinez wont change a thing – though we’re desperate for points. We’ll start off playing across the back crap. As last night, the crowd will get really frustrated and force the players to change it.

Hopefully we’ll get the same result as yesterday. A totally bemused Martinez can then – like today – take the credit for changing tactics!

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