Goodison vandalised with anti-Martinez graffiti

Never thought I'd be up for 1 of those banners on the back of a plane either, but if anyone fancies it...

I don't think we can accuse Kopites. I know they've had their fun with the Dixie Statue before, but there's no obvious grammatical or spelling errors (which also rules out most of the Bluekipper lot).

As someone brilliantly identified on GOT, this clearly shows the writing's on the wall for the manager.

Have you honestly thought your posts through? Oh, now some no mark has defaced our club maybe people will realise how badly we want the Manager out. Disgraceful.

But get off your high horse - passions and feelings are running high here

Something has to be done as the other idiot on this subject is going to take us down and we may never come back !!!!

Thanks John, I'd rather stay on this 'high horse' if it is all the same. No matter how high the passion you just can't condone it in any shape or form.

As regards comments here, well it's a long way from GP and there's a large difference between posting something here and doing it in real life. Internet bravado is one thing, vandalism of Goodisn Park is the pathetic action of a cretin or cretins.

Nice as it would be to blame Liverpool, I can't help but thinking they are fairly content with the present management at Goodison.

As for catching them, is there no CCTV? It would seem to be a no-brainer outside a football ground. If there isn't, I would have thought it would be tricky. Repainting would be a suitable punishment if they can be got hold of.

If you want to make a protest then surely one of those Martinez out banners should do the trick. Twitter seems to have made this one rather effective in terms of the publicity it's getting. Let's hope that doesn't encourage any more halfwits to scrawl their thoughts over our ground.

Should we now start attacking the manager in the dugout? How about a few threatening letters or even better, a horses head left on his pillow? Let your hate-filled imagination run riot!!

Where are we going with this? I know it's only a bit of paint and we should brush it off (pun intended) but do we really want to sink to the levels of other clubs? Apart from embarrassing ourselves with this do you honestly think BK's going to sack Martinez because some moron(s) has defaced our formerly hallowed ground?

It's time for some reflection people. Hate the manager by all means. Write letters, emails, texts etc...to the club asking for Martinez's head. Burn your ST's. Leave the ground early en masse if you wish. There are many ways for fans to make their anger and discontent known this isn't one of them. This just embarrasses the club and it's also fucking cowardly. If they really wanted to make a statement why didn't they do it during the day in full view of everyone?

This reflects badly on Evertonians. I was angry after Thursday and think Martinez should not be our manager next season but do not support this action. Give me a leg up on that high horse please.

Thankfully we are not renowned for this sort of pathetic action!

Write a letter, post on TW, even boo at the ground but graffeting your own home is mindless. I hope the team and management can turn it in to a positive and turn their displeasure into a fighting performance on the pitch to stick 2 fingers up to these idiots!

Martinez has not helped himself all season. With Moyes, we certainly had some bad patches, but he said it how it was, and looked like he had a few ideas on what to change. I'm not re writing Moyes time here, he had many faults, including stubbornness and favourite players playing despite form, but I don't remember it ever being as bad as this. Martinez is either deluded, or just doesn't give a monkeys about the results, as long as Barry and McCarthy pass it to each other 300 times a game.

He rode a crest of a wave last season. He had Moyes players wanting to impress, as well as the same from the loan players. Sadly, the more the season has gone on, the more I believe this season is the real Martinez, not last.

Martinez Out!

Now our transfer kitty will be spent paying someone to remove the paint.!!

We're all frustrated and I don't mind fans venting that frustration but to deface Goodison, that's not the way to go about it!

If they wanted to make a point, why not spray up a banner and tie it to the gates at the park end, then there not really defacing the old lady, there point will be made and it will be took down and made note of, and we move on.

No doubt this will spread like wild fire among the players and manager and make them aware of how frustrated us fans are! They need to truly understand how annoyed we are at things and this could be a start, even if it is the wrong way to go about it.

See, they won't be oblivious to what's being thought now. Yeah, fans might boo at games but Martinez and players will think it's just a mindless minority that are displeased but it really isn't!

But the manager and players now have until the end of the season to show some spirit, get results and try and get a lot of us back on side and give some hope for the new season!

Even if BK was considering dispensing with Roberto - and I'm sure he wasn't - this would make such a decision impossible.

Sacking a manager because of graffiti, the press and football world would have a field day !

I've said it before if Kenwight had been a RS and he was in charge of their club he would have been ousted long ago

But us soft shites just put up with being let down time and time again

Couldn't agree more. All this indignation over a bit of graffiti. Graffiti it is but mindless it ain't. If you'd not long got back from the Ukraine after another mailign team selction, substitution failure, followed by the usual nonsensical management comments I'd say this was pretty low key.

As for the hallowed ground comments I'd say the damage was done first when GP was littered with a dozens of Martinez drapes simply to endorse the cult of the personality that BK choooeses to embrace.

I can remember many years ago when Harry Catterick was attacked by Everton fans on his way in to GP. Now that was something to be get indignant about and I for one remember being thoroughly ashamed.

As for becoming Sunderland, Miidlesborough or whoever - does anyone think that if any of the top four wannabes had been forced to suffer what we have this season or were in the position we find ourselves in that their protestations would be so muted. Not a chance there'd be banners, aeroplanes adverts in the Times - you name it!

It wouldn't surprise me if this kind of action had more affect on BK than all the letters/emails that get deliverd to him or the club.

My Great Grandfather, Grandfather, Father, me and now my sons all class this place as home.

Not long back people were paying out to have granites placed at this sacred place. Regardless what is going on on the pitch, this is OUR home.

So no matter how mad you are, and how much you want your voice heard you can not respect the place enough to put mindless graffiti on the walls.

Not out style, not the Everton way. We handle ourselves with class, regardless the unrest on/off the pitch.

This is not the Everton way, simple as.

No it wouldn't, it would be moronic and whether or not the vandal truly believed the sentiment (that "Derek Thomas is a Knob") it still would not justify spraying it upon your house, or your car.

Indeed even if many, many people believed the statement "Derek Thomas is a Knob", to be entirely accurate, the act of graffiti would still be entirely wrong.

For the record Derek, I have no plans to spray "Derek Thomas is a Knob" anywhere at all, nor would I EVER condone such an action. Not even if I had definitive and conclusive proof to such an assertion, which I assuredly do not.

But that Everton was years ago hence why Billy Bullshit is still stuck in a time warp and we have fallen behind with our ambitions, stadium and status amongst the elite

Football has changed and we haven't

We are Everton and have class means jack shit in the Championship where this fella is taking us !

We need to make changes and they aren't going to change with statements like that

We have

And the funny thing is that Goodison will still somehow get a safety cert for the next ten seasons and we will be no closer to a new stadium or redeveloped Goodison.

On a serious note, why would you want to deface the ground? Really? The mind boggles.

After all he really hasn't a clue when it comes to defence of any kind. Expecting another defending painful real horror show later.

Martinez getting it right next season is the best chance we have of challenging for Europe again. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong, but I won't be replying until much later as I'm off to QPR in a bit.

COYB.

Oh and for the record, I do find the vandalism disgusting, but I'm not irate and haven't wrung my hands, ever. And we won't be playing in the Championship next season.

Ideally neither Bob nor Bill will be in a graffiti free Goodison Park for our first Premier League home game next season.

Can't see this lunatic lasting the summer, as soon as there's money to sack him i'd say he'll be gone. His backroom team will go as well (there's no way of that Wigan crowd will be kept on either).

Once we get mathematically safe i'll also bet our form will suffer and we drop like a stone to 16th / 17th, depending on those beneath us being able to overtake us.

The European dream is over, now back to reality and a quick look at the league table, oh, that's where we are then...the dubbing on the walls is no surprise. There's a lot of frustrated Evertonians who have had enough of Martinez.

It's a pity because last season was good but this year has been simply dreadful.

I am proud to be an Evertonian as I feel we are a different breed to any other collection of fans.

This stupid, idiotic act of defacing the club is not something I can or ever will support, regardless whether I agreed with the statements or sentiment. It is not who we are.

It's a sad day that this idiotic brand of 'Evertonian' has raised its head. No situation the club faces warrants this mindless act on our ground's walls.

I remember similar grafitti about HK (Mk 1) being daubed in many places, including, if I remember rightly, his house. I don't remember this much fuss being made about it.

Whilst I am not condoning it, I can see how someone can be driven to such frustration. My TV took an absolute gubbing on Thursday afternoon. Two coke cans, a fork and half a pizza. I must remember not to have my tea whilst watching our games!

On a more serious note, though, I disagree with vandalism of any kind, especially at our place of worship.

Tensions are high with the way the season has gone but to deface the home of our club like it's some back alley is not on.

I, like many others, am not impressed with Martinez and no doubt will be even more unhappy at 6 o'clock this evening but what we have to remember like Man Utd, we have just lost a long-standing successful although for different reasons manager. So to maintain those high standards instantly and seamlessly is a big ask for anyone especially with our budget. It's the end of an era and is going to take a lot of changes and transition to build that dressing room core under a different philosophy and new manager whoever it is.

If I'm totally honest, I'd give Garbutt whatever he wants and tie him down for a new contract get shut of Howard, Distin, Alcaraz, Hibbert, Pienaar, Barry, McGeady, Mirallas over a the next 12 to 18 months and build a team around Stones Barkley and Lukaku.

Straight away I'd sign Micah Richards, a top young goalkeeper, Andre Ayew for the wing, Yohan Cabaye and if there's any cash left a South American centre back! Wishful thinking, I know... but it's time for change!

Let me stress, I do not think this a thuggish or mindless act, it was done to get some reaction and they have certainly done that. Whether it makes any difference, I very much doubt it. In my opinion, what should have been done, hasn't been and we will be stuck with Bobby as long as Kenwright wants him there.

What happens next will be the creation of a magnificent work of art which will be a fantastic opportunity for the whole artistic community; an opportunity to re-paint Goodison only comes along once in a lifetime and there are few walls that have supported such a phenomenal structure as the Main Stand.

"Absolute disgrace... end of topic."

"Facism, pure and simple."

Oh the irony, that such commentators wish to mute any protest that doesn’t either conform to their own moral code or opinion.

Let me clearly state I am not condoning or encouraging the defacing of GP or property related to EFC.

I write in defence of graffiti as an historical and legitimate form of protest, humour, declaration of love, whatever, that has existed as long as man has learnt the means to etch something on any available surface, sometimes on penalty of death, if caught.

Graffiti can be seen by Napoleon on the mighty Cheops pyramid in Egypt, in the Colesium in Rome, by Crusaders in the Holy Sepulchre church in Jerusalem, by Cromwell’s Roundheads in King’s College Chapel in Cambridge from the Civil War.

I think the ’temple’ that is GP will survive these crudely written words and neither it, nor the greater edifice that is EFC, will be reduced to rubble as a result.

I see the words borne out of frustration and impotency at the club’s present plight. As crude and ’wrong’ (for some) it may be, the message and emotion within it echoes the sentiments felt by many.

In closing, in recent years I can recall just one other piece of graffiti at GP that drew wide publicity. In the wake of Rooney’s departure, someone poignantly etched:

"You could have been a God, but you chose to be a Devil."

Vandalism, legitimate form of protest, art, valid social commentary, humour...?

All determined by your own personal perspective.

Steve, I wish I could say I admire your stance but I don't and to be frank I find it incredibly naive.

I've had a season ticket since the early 60s I've travelled the country with Everton fans and I've seen good and bad behaviour – far worse in the 60s than now. I'd say on the whole we are probably a better group of fans than most but to try to argue that me are somehow massively different from all other fans is pure fantasy.

So you have such blind faith that rather than rage against us dropping in to the Championship you will accept it. It's because we are Evertonians and because of our heritage that supporters are rightly enraged by the possibility. You need to wake from your slumber otherwise you may well be leaving a legacy to your kids that none of your Everton forbears had the misfortune to suffer.

Most Everton supporters who have passed on would be turning in their graves at what is happening to this club right now. Football can be compared to religion and be seen as a way of life and if I had a quid for for every time the Goodison faithfull have brought a lump to my throat and a tear to my eyes I'd be able to buy another season ticket.

To disparage those supporter in some sort of self righteous tone those who extremely unhappy with what's happening at their club (including those protesting on the walls of GP) does none of us any favours. By the way if you want a list of Everton protests over the years which apparently happened while you were elsewhere – I could give you one!

After all, great numbers of families are split across the divide on Merseyside, so how does it work, that siblings are somehow brought up in a different way, with different values, boundaries and reactions? I'm certain there must be a whole field of study for the sociologists of this world.

In my view, people from the city of Liverpool are broadly similar regardless of the football team they support. From that perspective, we as a group of supporters will have the same proportion of dim-wits as the other lot and so incidents of this nature will alas occur on occasion.

It is the natural response to a given set of circumstances.

You beat Liverpool 3-0 and elation is natural, draw at home to bottom of the table Leicester, anger and boos are understandable and forgivable.

But this is something different, this breaks the rule of 'there's a time and a place.'

As angry as we all were on Thursday, all but the psychotic would have spent the 3 days since, walking around with clenched fists, snarling and plotting 'revenge.'

An hour after the match, possibly with the help of a few pints, most of us would have calmed down and seething anger would have been replaced by depression, calm and/or melancholy (again, normal responses).

This act is the act of a real fucking idiot, someone who simply can't cope with life not going their way.

You think it's only Everton that makes them respond this way? (ie: like an always angry twat)

It isn't, it's everything - buses being late, queues being too long, the opposite sex not paying them enough attention, someone looking at them 'funny', there only being one sausage left in the chippy at 11.23 p.m, etc etc.

(ok to be gutted at the time at a reduced sausage dinner, but would you think it ok for someone to paint 'GET MORE FUCKING SAUSAGES!' on a chippy, 3 days after being told 'we've only got one left'?)

Sorry but whatever you think about Martinez, if you believe the person responsible for this particular act is in anyway 'justified', you are imo (and I say this calmly). also a nob-head.

A very good post. A graffiti is, of course not the property of any particular faction or party whether on the left or the right. It is merely a tools of protest!

And the Man Utd supporters speeded up Moyes's departure by hiring a plane. We do graffiti. And bad graffiti at that. Come on people, at least spray your letters straight.

Yes, it's vandalism, but it's hardly crime of the century and won't be difficult to paint over.

At least it gets a fan's point across that we have had enough. Would a letter to Kenwright or the Echo do the same? I doubt it.

If nothing else, it should hammer the point home to Kenwright.

It seems to me to be more like frustrated mindless idiots doing the sort of thing that frustrated mindless idiots do.

" It is merely a tools protest ! "

There's a fine line between condoning something, finding it acceptable and finding something understandable.

To me a protest that can quickly be painted over does nothing like the damage caused by a manager who has lost the plot. I have to say that I still fail to understand the outrage caused by a bit of graffiti.

FFS it's not permanent damage it will be gone by tonight!

One of my New Season resolutions will me to properly check my typing!

Whereas you offer nothing to the debate, piggyback on the comments of others rather than pen something original and insightful and resort to school boy insults of fellow blues.

And I’m the knobhead?

Yeah, right...

(I still can't type/say the word "slip", "slippy" or "slippery" without a frisson of schaudenfreude).

At the end of the day, the club can just gloss over it like they do with everything else.

So you can call someone a knobhead but just don't protest on the painted walls of our hallowed ground!

Cracker. Smock ye not.

I'm no decorator, but surely a gloss finish would be inappropriate for brickwork? My namesake matt would be the order of the day?

I'm happy to support someone who follows my same viewpoint.

Why the hell would you want us back in Europe again? look what happens when clubs like us (small....) with small squads have a European competition, the league form suffers, it always has and always will.

I for one am glad we are out of that ridiculous Europa League, itÂ’s a distraction and the sooner us fans realise that and vent our frustrations elsewhere, not at the manager who, admittedly chose to field a strong team instead of the youngsters and reserves, but the board.

The Europa has done this to us, wake up people.

(shakes head) Dave, Dave, Dave. Dave, Dave.

Now that's not quite what I said..is it?

"As angry as we all were on Thursday, all but the psychotic would have spent the 3 days since, walking around with clenched fists, snarling and plotting 'revenge'"

What you have to remember is that medically speaking, psychosis is a broad term that encompasses a very broad range of behaviour, from relatively normal but quirky, to delusional, bipolar, right the way through to schizophrenic.

I know this might confuse you, but even though the word 'psychotherapy' contains the word 'psycho', the average psychotherapy session doesn't involve a doctor Melfi sort talking to a feller who is wearing a Jason mask and holding a blood-stained chainsaw (I know incredible...right?)

Oh shit, I just realised I've written 'schizo-something' - which means there's a good chance you'll be posting 'Eugene reckons it was a feller who dresses as his dead mam and wears masks made from dead people!!"

However there is a need to differentiate between mindless destructive vandalism comimitted for not reason other than to destroy something that someone else has created or owns and someone scrawling on the wall of a public building in protes.

I'm afraid it has always gone on but the over reaction we have seen from some people on this site because a supporter spays Martinez out has been quite unbelievable.

What is sadly lacking here is perspective. However in this day and age perspective a bit like common sense - something that a good many people don't seem to be able to take a clear view on!

Vandalizing/vandalising Goodison Park is shamefully FUCKING wrong !

Vandalizing/vandalising Goodison Park by Evertonians.......... is not what true Blues do.

"......those who do not understand...............".

Seriously though, I obviously join the condemnation of the medium which is entirely lacking in the class with which true Evertonians are blessed. I do however have to firmly support the message and can't help but wonder if this will ultimately leave some sort of positive mark in the minds of the board, long after the actual marks have been painted over.

When you spend your life creating spin (and reading your own creation), it gets to the stage that you may end up believing that 90% of the fans really are happy with the progress and the way the club's managed and run.

ps: Martinez out!!

Like has been said before it's better than being apathetic, it shows passion and many fans are frustrated and at least it informs our Chairman that not all is well with fans feelings.

We have seen football as bad as it gets this season, and watching it in a dilapidated joke of a stadium just underlines how grim our future is, with both current manager and board.

I saw that tweet from Jenny Seagrove, I hope she has got her facts correct otherwise her husband may have some explaining to do.

Could be Besic though, joking aside, thats our summer transfer budget blown with the cost of a 5 litre tin of Wilkos Royal Blue paint and roller to paint over.

As we’ve won two in a row the Martinez mural is to be unveiled again for the next home game. Happy days.

Martinez fielded a side today that would most probably have kept our European dreams alive. Martinez also played a 4-4-2 formation which many people wanted to see played against all struggling sides this season when he thought it best to only use one forward and two defensive midfielders at home to clubs like QPR.

The man should resign or be sacked and most of us think this, now itÂ’s been blasted across Goodison, as it should have been from Christmas, not on the walls but on banners. Hopefully this message will hit home and Martinez will go.

I'm just surprised that the spelling is correct.

Love the Gandalf post above and all we need now is some prick dressed as a clown with a cake.....

Is it just me, or is there an element of Monty Python's 'Life of Brian' to all this?!

What a waste of paint.

In my eyes, itÂ’s a legitimate campaign; how else are fans supposed to make themselves heard when nobodyÂ’s acting and the club plumbs the depths of incompetence and inadequacy? People shouldnÂ’t be so precious over our ramshackle dump of a stadium.

Are they sure we even own it nowadays after the shady deals Kenwright has pulled to stay in power? Remember the office fiasco at the corner of Walton Lane?