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Goodison vandalised with anti-Martinez graffiti

22/03/2015  Comments (147)  jump
The walls of Goodison Park have been defaced with crudely-sprayed graffiti calling for the dismissal of manager Roberto Martinez.

What is assumed to be an Everton fan has demonstrated the first outward signs of supporter discontent with the manager's performance following the Blues' exit from the Europa League on Thursday with graffiti on the walls of the Bullens Road and Main Stand, including the Howard Kendall "Everton Giant" plaque.

Pictures of the vandalism, which reads "Martinez Out", "Not good enough" and "#Stones", surfaced on Twitter provoking outrage among fans who branded it a cowardly and shameful act.  

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Matt Traynor
1 Posted 22/03/2015 at 03:07:19
Graffiti with a hashtag? WTF next? Link to a Facebook group?
Phil Sammon
2 Posted 22/03/2015 at 05:23:22
Graffiting a plaque dedicated to probably the greatest manager in our history. This particular twat is probably not the most discerning Evertonian out there.
Darren Hind
4 Posted 22/03/2015 at 06:33:40
Mischievous Kopites ?
Brian Porter
5 Posted 22/03/2015 at 06:36:36
Disgraceful? Yes. Surprising? Sadly, no, as it shows just how far the level of discontent has reached. Whoever did this should be caught and prosecuted and made to clean up his own mess, but we must remember that not all fans are level-headed, logical thinking individuals and there will always be a small faction at any club who will vent their feelings in the basest ways. There can only be one way to guarantee su h acts of vandalism are not repeated...get rid of Martinez...simples!
Steve Pugh
6 Posted 22/03/2015 at 07:12:28
Not acceptable.
Neil Pickering
7 Posted 22/03/2015 at 07:11:23
Not something I condone, but if this is what it takes to get the message to the powers that be that we want Martinez out immediately then frankly it will serve a purpose.

Never thought I'd be up for 1 of those banners on the back of a plane either, but if anyone fancies it...

Matt Traynor
8 Posted 22/03/2015 at 07:12:17
I worry about what impact the repainting will have on Other Operating Costs in next year's accounts.

I don't think we can accuse Kopites. I know they've had their fun with the Dixie Statue before, but there's no obvious grammatical or spelling errors (which also rules out most of the Bluekipper lot).

As someone brilliantly identified on GOT, this clearly shows the writing's on the wall for the manager.

Steve Foster
9 Posted 22/03/2015 at 07:17:57
Absolute Disgrace, the actions, and some of the comments on here. No matter what your stance is on the Manager and the current situation the vandalism of 'our' home is NEVER acceptable. End of topic. Idiots.

Have you honestly thought your posts through? Oh, now some no mark has defaced our club maybe people will realise how badly we want the Manager out. Disgraceful.

John Atkins
12 Posted 22/03/2015 at 08:06:05
Steve I don't condone it not do I think its a clever thing to do - yes idiots have done it

But get off your high horse - passions and feelings are running high here

Something has to be done as the other idiot on this subject is going to take us down and we may never come back !!!!

Steve Foster
16 Posted 22/03/2015 at 08:23:26
Thats Goodison Park they are defacing. The comments should be damning the actions, not, 'they have a point'.

Thanks John, I'd rather stay on this 'high horse' if it is all the same. No matter how high the passion you just can't condone it in any shape or form.

Tony Draper
17 Posted 22/03/2015 at 08:28:16
Sorry John @12 but I'm completely with Steve @11 on this issue regarding the graffiti. It is never acceptable to "shit in your own nest".

As regards comments here, well it's a long way from GP and there's a large difference between posting something here and doing it in real life. Internet bravado is one thing, vandalism of Goodisn Park is the pathetic action of a cretin or cretins.

Gavin McGarvey
18 Posted 22/03/2015 at 08:34:33
It's unfortunate that, like all the other clubs, there are a few idiots who support us. In an ideal world they would find something else to do with their time.

Nice as it would be to blame Liverpool, I can't help but thinking they are fairly content with the present management at Goodison.

As for catching them, is there no CCTV? It would seem to be a no-brainer outside a football ground. If there isn't, I would have thought it would be tricky. Repainting would be a suitable punishment if they can be got hold of.

If you want to make a protest then surely one of those Martinez out banners should do the trick. Twitter seems to have made this one rather effective in terms of the publicity it's getting. Let's hope that doesn't encourage any more halfwits to scrawl their thoughts over our ground.

Colin Glassar
19 Posted 22/03/2015 at 08:41:49
Fascism pure and simple. Some fool yesterday even suggested we turn ourselves into Sunderland, why not Middlesborough? Or Newcastle? Or WHU? The mob mentality at those clubs has been really successful hasn't it?

Should we now start attacking the manager in the dugout? How about a few threatening letters or even better, a horses head left on his pillow? Let your hate-filled imagination run riot!!

Where are we going with this? I know it's only a bit of paint and we should brush it off (pun intended) but do we really want to sink to the levels of other clubs? Apart from embarrassing ourselves with this do you honestly think BK's going to sack Martinez because some moron(s) has defaced our formerly hallowed ground?

It's time for some reflection people. Hate the manager by all means. Write letters, emails, texts the club asking for Martinez's head. Burn your ST's. Leave the ground early en masse if you wish. There are many ways for fans to make their anger and discontent known this isn't one of them. This just embarrasses the club and it's also fucking cowardly. If they really wanted to make a statement why didn't they do it during the day in full view of everyone?

Dave Pritchard
20 Posted 22/03/2015 at 08:55:55
Neil (7) I disagree with you and others who say things like it serves a purpose.

This reflects badly on Evertonians. I was angry after Thursday and think Martinez should not be our manager next season but do not support this action. Give me a leg up on that high horse please.

Sue Brown
21 Posted 22/03/2015 at 08:48:08
Absolutely disgraceful act. I'm with Steve#11 and Tony#17 on this one. These idiots deface and vandalize the heart of the club for what...? I presume there must be good cctv coverage around the ground, so let's hope the culprits are are named and suitably shamed quickly.
Dennis Stevens
22 Posted 22/03/2015 at 08:57:51
I can only imagine that if any reaction is forthcoming from the Board it will merely be to underline their support for Martinez. He'll still be here next season, undoubtedly.
Stephen Brown
23 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:09:42
Unfortunately the law of averages dictates that we are going to have a number of idiots as supporters.

Thankfully we are not renowned for this sort of pathetic action!

Write a letter, post on TW, even boo at the ground but graffeting your own home is mindless. I hope the team and management can turn it in to a positive and turn their displeasure into a fighting performance on the pitch to stick 2 fingers up to these idiots!

Neil Pickering
24 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:04:53
Again, it's not the way I would choose to voice my discontent but drastic times require drastic measures. As someone said emotions are running high, and if the fans that want this guy out can force the issue and make his position untenable then like I say it's a means to an end. What's the alternative? Moan on here? write a strongly worded letter to Bill? One thing we can agree on is that Bill will continue on well into nxt season with this guy in charge. By that time we could be in the championship, so if some graffiti means that Bill takes notice then it's a small price to pay as far as I'm concerned. It could keep us up.
Tony Draper
25 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:14:04
Neil @24, the graffiti will not keep us up, not unless it was written by Gandalf !
Dan McKie
27 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:15:51
Stephen Brown, it is the lack of fighting performances this season that has caused the unrest. This is idiotic though.

Martinez has not helped himself all season. With Moyes, we certainly had some bad patches, but he said it how it was, and looked like he had a few ideas on what to change. I'm not re writing Moyes time here, he had many faults, including stubbornness and favourite players playing despite form, but I don't remember it ever being as bad as this. Martinez is either deluded, or just doesn't give a monkeys about the results, as long as Barry and McCarthy pass it to each other 300 times a game.

He rode a crest of a wave last season. He had Moyes players wanting to impress, as well as the same from the loan players. Sadly, the more the season has gone on, the more I believe this season is the real Martinez, not last.

Martinez Out!

Jim Bennings
29 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:36:39
Fucking stupid..

Now our transfer kitty will be spent paying someone to remove the paint.!!

Aidy Dews
30 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:35:23
I don't think this is a kopites doing, it's some frustrated blue.

We're all frustrated and I don't mind fans venting that frustration but to deface Goodison, that's not the way to go about it!

If they wanted to make a point, why not spray up a banner and tie it to the gates at the park end, then there not really defacing the old lady, there point will be made and it will be took down and made note of, and we move on.

No doubt this will spread like wild fire among the players and manager and make them aware of how frustrated us fans are! They need to truly understand how annoyed we are at things and this could be a start, even if it is the wrong way to go about it.

See, they won't be oblivious to what's being thought now. Yeah, fans might boo at games but Martinez and players will think it's just a mindless minority that are displeased but it really isn't!

But the manager and players now have until the end of the season to show some spirit, get results and try and get a lot of us back on side and give some hope for the new season!

Derek Thomas
31 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:41:35
Get over it, fair comment. It's a bit of paint ffs, you could have a reign of terror on here with a balloon on a stick.
Andy Williams
32 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:51:36
The Wigan fans had a petition to get Martinez out.
Phil Walling
33 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:52:44
Mindless moron.

Even if BK was considering dispensing with Roberto - and I'm sure he wasn't - this would make such a decision impossible.

Sacking a manager because of graffiti, the press and football world would have a field day !

John Atkins
34 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:50:16
Neil I agree most on here just like to moan but will do f*ck all about it and sit in their friggin high horses

I've said it before if Kenwight had been a RS and he was in charge of their club he would have been ousted long ago

But us soft shites just put up with being let down time and time again

Alexander O'Brien
35 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:57:42
I'm deeply concerned by this! The two tins of blue paint and wilko scrubbing brushes needed to clean this up will undoubtedly eat into our transfer budget for next season
John Atkins
36 Posted 22/03/2015 at 10:01:38
And I'll say it again I do not support what they have done but I'm not surprised as people who are emotional react in different ways
Karl Meighan
37 Posted 22/03/2015 at 09:53:07
If this what it takes to get rid of the clown then so be it, if its a choice between graffiti or MK Dons and Bristol City on next seasons fixture list then whatever it takes.
Matt Williams
38 Posted 22/03/2015 at 10:11:17
I don't condone this at all it makes us look mindless. If enough people want the manager gone then an organised show of discontent is the way to go. However as fans get called kopites and not proper Evertonians for suggesting protests this show of frustration was inevitable in my opinion.
Brent Stephens
39 Posted 22/03/2015 at 10:13:02
Looks to be in good English, so not an rs.
Colin Glassar
40 Posted 22/03/2015 at 10:17:02
I've been told it was Distin and Mirallas, they've been caught on CCTV. Phil Neville was seen holding the can with a gormless smirk on his face.
Sid Logan
41 Posted 22/03/2015 at 10:03:14
Derek #31

Couldn't agree more. All this indignation over a bit of graffiti. Graffiti it is but mindless it ain't. If you'd not long got back from the Ukraine after another mailign team selction, substitution failure, followed by the usual nonsensical management comments I'd say this was pretty low key.

As for the hallowed ground comments I'd say the damage was done first when GP was littered with a dozens of Martinez drapes simply to endorse the cult of the personality that BK choooeses to embrace.

I can remember many years ago when Harry Catterick was attacked by Everton fans on his way in to GP. Now that was something to be get indignant about and I for one remember being thoroughly ashamed.

As for becoming Sunderland, Miidlesborough or whoever - does anyone think that if any of the top four wannabes had been forced to suffer what we have this season or were in the position we find ourselves in that their protestations would be so muted. Not a chance there'd be banners, aeroplanes adverts in the Times - you name it!

It wouldn't surprise me if this kind of action had more affect on BK than all the letters/emails that get deliverd to him or the club.

Brent Stephens
42 Posted 22/03/2015 at 10:27:59
I'll go for the Banksy theory. Bill got him to do it and thus triple the value of the ground overnight.
Steve Foster
43 Posted 22/03/2015 at 10:23:16
And the discussion continues.

My Great Grandfather, Grandfather, Father, me and now my sons all class this place as home.

Not long back people were paying out to have granites placed at this sacred place. Regardless what is going on on the pitch, this is OUR home.

So no matter how mad you are, and how much you want your voice heard you can not respect the place enough to put mindless graffiti on the walls.

Not out style, not the Everton way. We handle ourselves with class, regardless the unrest on/off the pitch.

This is not the Everton way, simple as.

Tony Draper
44 Posted 22/03/2015 at 10:17:33
Derek @31, so if someone daubed "Derek Thomas is a Knob" (for example) on your place of work or house or car (for comic purposes ala Alan Partidge), then that would be "a bit of paint ffs".

No it wouldn't, it would be moronic and whether or not the vandal truly believed the sentiment (that "Derek Thomas is a Knob") it still would not justify spraying it upon your house, or your car.

Indeed even if many, many people believed the statement "Derek Thomas is a Knob", to be entirely accurate, the act of graffiti would still be entirely wrong.

For the record Derek, I have no plans to spray "Derek Thomas is a Knob" anywhere at all, nor would I EVER condone such an action. Not even if I had definitive and conclusive proof to such an assertion, which I assuredly do not.

Ian Ravello
45 Posted 22/03/2015 at 10:36:49
I guess this emerging headline yesterday might just have tipped this poor fellow over the brink and into insanity. He may be secured in a straight jacket and drooling like an idiot as we speak: -
'Romelu Lukaku has been phenomenal at Everton... he can score the goals to keep us safe, insists manager Roberto Martinez'

Colin Glassar
47 Posted 22/03/2015 at 10:40:31
Ouch Derek, that must've hurt. Remember the Nyarko incident? Despite him being awful that is not the way to do things. If these are Everton fans, and they are caught, I hope they are banned for life. The bible says, "do not shit in temples and places of worship" Corinthians, page 3, verse 69.
Tony Hill
48 Posted 22/03/2015 at 10:49:25
Steve (43), it's a total embarrassment and I second what you say completely.
John Atkins
50 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:07:45
Steve I get your point I really do and respect your heritage as I have a similar heritage

But that Everton was years ago hence why Billy Bullshit is still stuck in a time warp and we have fallen behind with our ambitions, stadium and status amongst the elite

Football has changed and we haven't

We are Everton and have class means jack shit in the Championship where this fella is taking us !

We need to make changes and they aren't going to change with statements like that

We have

Clive Lewis
51 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:10:18
I think the fans are sleepwalking into another Wigan like relegation. Too many still suggesting another season, well make you presence known so we know who to blame when this happens.
Jay Woods
52 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:18:42
To the handful of handwringers irate at this act of "mindless vandalism", I'm sure Bill will appreciate your long and deliberate applause at Goodison when he takes his seat for our first game in the Championship next season.
Kieran Fitzgerald
53 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:15:50
Instead of getting proper tradesmen in to remove the graffiti, we will get a couple of young fellas in on work experience or community service. They will do such a bad job that half the supporting wall will fall over, destroying the pitch, both sets of goal posts and two of the stands. There will then be a tropical storm and rain will cause the cleaning materials used on the graffiti to turn what's left of the stadium RS red.

And the funny thing is that Goodison will still somehow get a safety cert for the next ten seasons and we will be no closer to a new stadium or redeveloped Goodison.

On a serious note, why would you want to deface the ground? Really? The mind boggles.

Clive Lewis
54 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:19:51
Maybe Roberto can organise a defense of the Goodison walls over the next few months. Maybe the removal of all spray paint from shops in the vicinity.

After all he really hasn't a clue when it comes to defence of any kind. Expecting another defending painful real horror show later.

Oscar Huglin
55 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:28:27
Okay this is absolutely disgusting.
Brent Stephens
56 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:31:05
This is terrible - it's illegal!
Oscar Huglin
57 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:29:12
Clive #51 – I want him for another season. I've already had this argument on a few threads – there's no one better to replace him. Only unproven young managers or past Everton players who wouldn't be good enough.

Martinez getting it right next season is the best chance we have of challenging for Europe again. Feel free to tell me I'm wrong, but I won't be replying until much later as I'm off to QPR in a bit.


Tony Draper
58 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:23:20
So Jay @52, what's your plan then? Apart from approving "mindless vandalism" that is?

Oh and for the record, I do find the vandalism disgusting, but I'm not irate and haven't wrung my hands, ever. And we won't be playing in the Championship next season.

Ideally neither Bob nor Bill will be in a graffiti free Goodison Park for our first Premier League home game next season.

Richard Harris
59 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:34:40
Whatever the view of graffiti (vandalism or protest?) there have been more disgraceful displays on the pitch that will take more than a new coat of paint to repair the damage......
Declan Brown
60 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:34:30
Well folks, here we go, the writing is on the wall as they say.

Can't see this lunatic lasting the summer, as soon as there's money to sack him i'd say he'll be gone. His backroom team will go as well (there's no way of that Wigan crowd will be kept on either).

Once we get mathematically safe i'll also bet our form will suffer and we drop like a stone to 16th / 17th, depending on those beneath us being able to overtake us.

The European dream is over, now back to reality and a quick look at the league table, oh, that's where we are then...the dubbing on the walls is no surprise. There's a lot of frustrated Evertonians who have had enough of Martinez.

It's a pity because last season was good but this year has been simply dreadful.

Declan Brown
61 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:38:41
Jesus, I just read they defaced the Kendall plaque. The Bastards! That's bang out of order. Hang your head in shame whoever you are.
Steve Foster
62 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:30:27
I support Everton now, and will support them in the Championship, if it came to that.

I am proud to be an Evertonian as I feel we are a different breed to any other collection of fans.

This stupid, idiotic act of defacing the club is not something I can or ever will support, regardless whether I agreed with the statements or sentiment. It is not who we are.

It's a sad day that this idiotic brand of 'Evertonian' has raised its head. No situation the club faces warrants this mindless act on our ground's walls.

Joe Foster
63 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:35:32
This is a slippery slope... Oh BK/RM – what have you done to this club.
Tom Edwards
64 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:45:46
Kieran (53), class! I laughed until my gentleman was almost detatched!

I remember similar grafitti about HK (Mk 1) being daubed in many places, including, if I remember rightly, his house. I don't remember this much fuss being made about it.

Whilst I am not condoning it, I can see how someone can be driven to such frustration. My TV took an absolute gubbing on Thursday afternoon. Two coke cans, a fork and half a pizza. I must remember not to have my tea whilst watching our games!

Sean Kelly
65 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:51:46
IÂ’m as angry as the next Everton supporter at our current predicament. I have an alibi. I usually get the misses to do the painting. This twat obviously wasnÂ’t trained by Martinez as heÂ’s a pro at painting a pretty picture. After all heÂ’s being doing it all fucking season.
Lennart Hylén
66 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:01:12
Who will pay for this?
The club we all love!!!
Alan McGuffog
67 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:01:47
Kieran (53)... I like your suggestion but instead of a couple of youngsters why not go for a couple of really old decorators who are approaching retirement. Preferably suffering from vertigo. Get them to clean off the graffiti and then give them a 20-year contract to paint the stands.
Jim Hardin
68 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:03:35
Now I guess I can't criticise the Man Utd fans who rented a plane with banners since that is much classier than what happened here.
Dave Cook
69 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:08:20
It's clearly done by Distin, especially with the #Stones
Kevin Elliott
70 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:49:29
It's a red flag. Committed by Roberto himself to divert attention away from his inept management and idiotic mumblings.

On a more serious note, though, I disagree with vandalism of any kind, especially at our place of worship.

John Malone
71 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:45:19
Bang out of order that – you don't shit where you eat!

Tensions are high with the way the season has gone but to deface the home of our club like it's some back alley is not on.

I, like many others, am not impressed with Martinez and no doubt will be even more unhappy at 6 o'clock this evening but what we have to remember like Man Utd, we have just lost a long-standing successful although for different reasons manager. So to maintain those high standards instantly and seamlessly is a big ask for anyone especially with our budget. It's the end of an era and is going to take a lot of changes and transition to build that dressing room core under a different philosophy and new manager whoever it is.

If I'm totally honest, I'd give Garbutt whatever he wants and tie him down for a new contract get shut of Howard, Distin, Alcaraz, Hibbert, Pienaar, Barry, McGeady, Mirallas over a the next 12 to 18 months and build a team around Stones Barkley and Lukaku.

Straight away I'd sign Micah Richards, a top young goalkeeper, Andre Ayew for the wing, Yohan Cabaye and if there's any cash left a South American centre back! Wishful thinking, I know... but it's time for change!

Dave Abrahams
72 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:52:11
I wasn't on ToffeeWeb when Rooney went to Man Utd; was there as much fuss then as there is now over this? To me, the people who did this (painting) are fans, yes fans, who care deeply about Everton FC. I've never heard such hand wringing over this. As for "We are Everton, we don't do this sort of thing" – we have just as many thugs and mindless supporters as every other club.

Let me stress, I do not think this a thuggish or mindless act, it was done to get some reaction and they have certainly done that. Whether it makes any difference, I very much doubt it. In my opinion, what should have been done, hasn't been and we will be stuck with Bobby as long as Kenwright wants him there.

Patrick Murphy
73 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:16:00
It's a phenomenal piece of post-modern art that reflects the growing confidence of Evertonians everywhere in the world; whilst I wouldn't single out the wall for criticism, it is obvious that the wall did it's job in the previous home game and it would be wrong to blame the wall for being in the wrong place, any wall can be covered in paint by a rogue artist.

What happens next will be the creation of a magnificent work of art which will be a fantastic opportunity for the whole artistic community; an opportunity to re-paint Goodison only comes along once in a lifetime and there are few walls that have supported such a phenomenal structure as the Main Stand.

Jay Wood
74 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:34:49
I smile at the indignation of some posters in reaction to this.

"Absolute disgrace... end of topic."

"Facism, pure and simple."

Oh the irony, that such commentators wish to mute any protest that doesn’t either conform to their own moral code or opinion.

Let me clearly state I am not condoning or encouraging the defacing of GP or property related to EFC.

I write in defence of graffiti as an historical and legitimate form of protest, humour, declaration of love, whatever, that has existed as long as man has learnt the means to etch something on any available surface, sometimes on penalty of death, if caught.

Graffiti can be seen by Napoleon on the mighty Cheops pyramid in Egypt, in the Colesium in Rome, by Crusaders in the Holy Sepulchre church in Jerusalem, by Cromwell’s Roundheads in King’s College Chapel in Cambridge from the Civil War.

I think the ’temple’ that is GP will survive these crudely written words and neither it, nor the greater edifice that is EFC, will be reduced to rubble as a result.

I see the words borne out of frustration and impotency at the club’s present plight. As crude and ’wrong’ (for some) it may be, the message and emotion within it echoes the sentiments felt by many.

In closing, in recent years I can recall just one other piece of graffiti at GP that drew wide publicity. In the wake of Rooney’s departure, someone poignantly etched:

"You could have been a God, but you chose to be a Devil."

Vandalism, legitimate form of protest, art, valid social commentary, humour...?

All determined by your own personal perspective.

Sid Logan
76 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:59:53
Steve #62

Steve, I wish I could say I admire your stance but I don't and to be frank I find it incredibly naive.

I've had a season ticket since the early 60s I've travelled the country with Everton fans and I've seen good and bad behaviour – far worse in the 60s than now. I'd say on the whole we are probably a better group of fans than most but to try to argue that me are somehow massively different from all other fans is pure fantasy.

So you have such blind faith that rather than rage against us dropping in to the Championship you will accept it. It's because we are Evertonians and because of our heritage that supporters are rightly enraged by the possibility. You need to wake from your slumber otherwise you may well be leaving a legacy to your kids that none of your Everton forbears had the misfortune to suffer.

Most Everton supporters who have passed on would be turning in their graves at what is happening to this club right now. Football can be compared to religion and be seen as a way of life and if I had a quid for for every time the Goodison faithfull have brought a lump to my throat and a tear to my eyes I'd be able to buy another season ticket.

To disparage those supporter in some sort of self righteous tone those who extremely unhappy with what's happening at their club (including those protesting on the walls of GP) does none of us any favours. By the way if you want a list of Everton protests over the years which apparently happened while you were elsewhere – I could give you one!

Patrick Murphy
77 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:24:32
On a serious note, the whole "we don't do this type of thing" is perhaps a laudable sentiment and I would agree that we as a group of supporters do try and maintain high standards, but this whole "we are not dark side supporters" always makes me wonder how this comes to pass.

After all, great numbers of families are split across the divide on Merseyside, so how does it work, that siblings are somehow brought up in a different way, with different values, boundaries and reactions? I'm certain there must be a whole field of study for the sociologists of this world.

In my view, people from the city of Liverpool are broadly similar regardless of the football team they support. From that perspective, we as a group of supporters will have the same proportion of dim-wits as the other lot and so incidents of this nature will alas occur on occasion.

Joe Foster
78 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:37:27
Patrick Murphy #73 you sir have won the Internet today.
Eugene Ruane
79 Posted 22/03/2015 at 11:46:34
Expressing anger is acceptable imo, it is just as legitimate a human emotion as happiness or sadness.

It is the natural response to a given set of circumstances.

You beat Liverpool 3-0 and elation is natural, draw at home to bottom of the table Leicester, anger and boos are understandable and forgivable.

But this is something different, this breaks the rule of 'there's a time and a place.'

As angry as we all were on Thursday, all but the psychotic would have spent the 3 days since, walking around with clenched fists, snarling and plotting 'revenge.'

An hour after the match, possibly with the help of a few pints, most of us would have calmed down and seething anger would have been replaced by depression, calm and/or melancholy (again, normal responses).

This act is the act of a real fucking idiot, someone who simply can't cope with life not going their way.

You think it's only Everton that makes them respond this way? (ie: like an always angry twat)

It isn't, it's everything - buses being late, queues being too long, the opposite sex not paying them enough attention, someone looking at them 'funny', there only being one sausage left in the chippy at 11.23 p.m, etc etc.

(ok to be gutted at the time at a reduced sausage dinner, but would you think it ok for someone to paint 'GET MORE FUCKING SAUSAGES!' on a chippy, 3 days after being told 'we've only got one left'?)

Sorry but whatever you think about Martinez, if you believe the person responsible for this particular act is in anyway 'justified', you are imo (and I say this calmly). also a nob-head.

Sid Logan
80 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:40:26
Jay # 74

A very good post. A graffiti is, of course not the property of any particular faction or party whether on the left or the right. It is merely a tools of protest!

Victor Jones
81 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:35:20
Just wonder where Robles and Garbutt were when this graffiti was done. Playing well, but dropped at the first opportunity. Just heard on the grapevine that BK has hired Sherlock Holmes. He's not bothered about the graffiti, he just wants to find out who stole Martinez's Plan B.

And the Man Utd supporters speeded up Moyes's departure by hiring a plane. We do graffiti. And bad graffiti at that. Come on people, at least spray your letters straight.

Tom Sauce
82 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:49:30
Looking at it, I'm not sure that it's a bad thing or not.

Yes, it's vandalism, but it's hardly crime of the century and won't be difficult to paint over.

At least it gets a fan's point across that we have had enough. Would a letter to Kenwright or the Echo do the same? I doubt it.

If nothing else, it should hammer the point home to Kenwright.

Andy Crooks
83 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:35:33
I don't think it's Facism. Nazi Germany didn't start this way. It's not the thin end of the wedge, the tip of the iceberg, the start of a slippery slope, an attack on democracy or an assault on our human rights.

It seems to me to be more like frustrated mindless idiots doing the sort of thing that frustrated mindless idiots do.

Colin Glassar
84 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:49:20
Sherlock ad honorem Victor. If they stole the paint from the club expect BK to get Interpol involved.
Steven Pendleton
85 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:53:45
Well said Eugene. As much as this current regime has been frustrating, there is no excuse for this act. Totally embarrassing that some of our own would think that this is acceptable.
Pat Waine
87 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:53:23
Martinez is a top manager who is trying to get us playing top class football. He achieved that last year and got us into Europe. Many players this year have simply let him down. Including Ross Barkley. Would any Evertonian call for Barkley to be sold last year? No. This year in the main he has been muck. There are a number of players that need to move on. I'm sure RM knows that: Howard, Hibbo, Distin, Pienaar, Alcaraz, Barry... Bring in two midfielders, a centre-half who can head the ball and a pacy playmaker. Defacing GP is quite simply stupid.
Andy Meighan
88 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:56:22
Eugene (#79) reduced sausage dinner classic but got the gist of your post though. There's something mentally wrong with the bastards. And all this on the day the title is being decided over the park. Sad, really is.
Tony Draper
89 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:56:40
Sid @80, for the purposes of humorous disagreement, I'd requote you......

" It is merely a tools protest ! "

Sid Logan
90 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:58:44

There's a fine line between condoning something, finding it acceptable and finding something understandable.

To me a protest that can quickly be painted over does nothing like the damage caused by a manager who has lost the plot. I have to say that I still fail to understand the outrage caused by a bit of graffiti.

FFS it's not permanent damage it will be gone by tonight!

Trevor Peers
91 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:59:12
Can't see the problem with the graffiti myself it's direct and to the point and easy to get rid of and far better than rioting in the streets. Like the idea of Roberto scrawling that at midnight as a massive PR coup wouldn't put it past him.
Sid Logan
92 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:05:42
Tony, a justified joke. I did actually mistype 'a tools of protest'.

One of my New Season resolutions will me to properly check my typing!

Dave Abrahams
93 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:07:00
Eugene's narrowed it down to a psychopath, so that's that,brilliant Eugene.
Colin Glassar
94 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:55:18
Andy, the fascism bit was obviously OTT on my part. I’m all for protesting the direction the club is going in but I don’t think defacing the ground, in the middle of the night, is an act to be applauded. It’s the work of cowards IMO.
It has been done down the centuries but that hardly justifies it, does it?
Mark Wilson
95 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:01:53
I'd like to get up on the moral high horse but it's almost certainly not wheelchair accessible so I have to make do with this largely entertaining thread. I now understand the place of Graffiti in our nations history, appreciate Banksys skills a lot more, see that "irony" thing about the future of the mgr being written on the wall and am dismayed the learn that this clean up operation is certain to impact next years already pathetically small free transfer expenses budget. Great stuff but whoever you passionate real Evertonians are who did the culture-enhancing form of protesting your still embarrassing knobhead(s) ok ?
Sid Logan
96 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:09:13
Listening to what people are saying on here you'd think someone had ram-raided our shop in a car covered in RS stickers!
Jay Wood
97 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:07:24
@ Steve 85 and 86

Whereas you offer nothing to the debate, piggyback on the comments of others rather than pen something original and insightful and resort to school boy insults of fellow blues.

And I’m the knobhead?

Yeah, right...

Brent Stephens
98 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:11:00
Wish I'd been there when it was painted. I could have watched it dry and then been able to say I'd enjoyed the season.
Tony Draper
99 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:09:35
Sid, @92........... PLEASE !
Checking your typos and always ensuring that postings are easy to follow, correctly spelled and gramatically correct is the thin end of the wedge and could be the first step on a slippery slope bringing about the chemise of TW.

(I still can't type/say the word "slip", "slippy" or "slippery" without a frisson of schaudenfreude).

John Daley
100 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:02:06
A bit of half-arsed graffiti? Big deal. The guy didn't even bother to draw the de rigueur bulbous dong. It amounts to a few words of tame scorn in a place where it'll be visible to the target. Pointless? Pretty much, but I don't get the indignation. If the words 'sticks and' came before the '#Stones' then that would about sum it up. Joe Royle (an Everton legend and much less deserving target) got the worse treatment.

At the end of the day, the club can just gloss over it like they do with everything else.

Sid Logan
101 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:13:54
Steve #86

So you can call someone a knobhead but just don't protest on the painted walls of our hallowed ground!

Dave Abrahams
102 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:15:34
I would love to stay and read the rest of the debate but I'm going out,it's actually better on GOT, most are having a good laugh at the graffiti, and I think that's the way it should be.
Brent Stephens
103 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:19:23
Tony #99 "a slippery slope bringing about the chemise of TW."!

Cracker. Smock ye not.

Matt Traynor
104 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:21:05
John #100,
"the club can just gloss over it like they do with everything else"

I'm no decorator, but surely a gloss finish would be inappropriate for brickwork? My namesake matt would be the order of the day?

Kevin Rowlands
105 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:19:09
Bad loss today and this will be the start of a lot worse to come, by that I mean banners, protests etc, Kenwright and Bobby M better hope ’good’ Everton show up today.
Eddie Dunn
106 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:24:51
Alcaraz should be made to clean the graffiti off, oh but I forgot he will need a bloody step ladder, as he can't bloody jump high enough to reach the bloody stuff!
Sid Logan
107 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:23:24
If TWebbers clubbed together to pay for someone to paint over offensive words would we be redeemed in the eyes of all those who hold us complicit for failing to see the sheer heinousness of the crime?
James Stewart
108 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:28:45
Nothing wrong with graffiti as I form of protest. The message with this one is clear and I can't argue with it. I hate Martinez and his reign of incompetence more and more each week. Sunderland fans made it impossible for Poyet to continue and we should be doing the same
Harold Matthews
109 Posted 22/03/2015 at 12:49:23
The work of two or more young ignorant individuals. Goes against tradition but cover it up and forget it. We have more important things to worry about.
Sid Logan
110 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:35:15
By the writing my guess is it's the work of 2 individuals one of whom had a wooden leg and a monocle and the second was wearing a chemise - which could be his or her demise! They are believed to have escaped across Stanley Park.

Colin Glassar
111 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:45:33
Are you suggesting this was done by Dave Whelan, Sid?
Sid Logan
112 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:47:23
Colin, it's not my job to speculate only to make the arrest when the necessary proof is available! But it's fair to say the whole operation has all the hallmarks of a Wigan gang!
Eddie Dunn
113 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:51:48
Sid, that explains why Alcaraz can't jump - he has a wooden leg.
Colin Glassar
114 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:53:17
Walling must be involved then Sid. Him or his Wiganite missus.
Steven Pendleton
115 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:51:46
Jeez your on the ball Sid. But to answer your question, Yes.
Sid Logan
116 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:58:28
Steve - Wow!
Steven Pendleton
117 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:58:14
Piggybacks are fun Jay. If someone supports the same viewpoint as mine why spin the same yarns.

I'm happy to support someone who follows my same viewpoint.

Sid Logan
118 Posted 22/03/2015 at 14:00:41
Steve- wish I had those standards - both of them!
Sid Logan
119 Posted 22/03/2015 at 14:05:45
Must go for now - I'm watching 2 teams fighting for a 4th place!
Colin Glassar
120 Posted 22/03/2015 at 14:22:22
The rs are being vandalised right now by the mancs.
Pete Owen
121 Posted 22/03/2015 at 13:31:59
Oscar #54

Why the hell would you want us back in Europe again? look what happens when clubs like us (small....) with small squads have a European competition, the league form suffers, it always has and always will.

I for one am glad we are out of that ridiculous Europa League, itÂ’s a distraction and the sooner us fans realise that and vent our frustrations elsewhere, not at the manager who, admittedly chose to field a strong team instead of the youngsters and reserves, but the board.

The Europa has done this to us, wake up people.

David Barks
123 Posted 22/03/2015 at 14:26:07
It was graffiti that was intended to increase the awareness of the media, to stop this mindset that Evertonians are somehow accepting of being where we are. It's raises the awareness of how angry we are with this manager and how much we want him out. It has done that. And now they'll spend a tiny bit of money to sand blast and repaint that wall, and it will be gone. They didn't destroy anything, just calm down. Or direct some of that anger where it belongs, at this joke of a manager.
Sid Logan
124 Posted 22/03/2015 at 14:41:11
Looks like they're about to be vandalised even more!
Colin Glassar
125 Posted 22/03/2015 at 14:47:10
Why does Rooney always play so shit on merseyside?
Sid Logan
126 Posted 22/03/2015 at 14:52:11
Colin, because he should never have left?
Kevin Jones
127 Posted 22/03/2015 at 14:48:32
The two thing I abhor must in life are vandalism and violence. Never seen the point in either. Fair enough we're vitually all in agreement now that Roberto's reign has run it's course, but we must try to keep a cool head and protest, if that's what it takes, in a respectable manner becoming of Evertonians.
Eugene Ruane
128 Posted 22/03/2015 at 14:18:25
Dave '2+2 = 307' Abrahams - "Eugene's narrowed it down to a psychopath, so that's that, brilliant Eugene"

(shakes head) Dave, Dave, Dave. Dave, Dave.

Now that's not quite what I it?

"As angry as we all were on Thursday, all but the psychotic would have spent the 3 days since, walking around with clenched fists, snarling and plotting 'revenge'"

What you have to remember is that medically speaking, psychosis is a broad term that encompasses a very broad range of behaviour, from relatively normal but quirky, to delusional, bipolar, right the way through to schizophrenic.

I know this might confuse you, but even though the word 'psychotherapy' contains the word 'psycho', the average psychotherapy session doesn't involve a doctor Melfi sort talking to a feller who is wearing a Jason mask and holding a blood-stained chainsaw (I know incredible...right?)

Oh shit, I just realised I've written 'schizo-something' - which means there's a good chance you'll be posting 'Eugene reckons it was a feller who dresses as his dead mam and wears masks made from dead people!!"

Alexander O'Brien
129 Posted 22/03/2015 at 15:11:18
Why highlight this nonsense anyway, TW? One brainless fool who feels the need to express his/hers feelings in a disgusting fashion. I bet the person who did this is well happy knowing their talents have been broadcasted to thousands of people. People who have wasted they're time debating on what is utter rubbish!
Sid Logan
130 Posted 22/03/2015 at 15:08:13
Kevin, I completely agree with you in as much as violence is abhorrent in all its for a to most normal people.

However there is a need to differentiate between mindless destructive vandalism comimitted for not reason other than to destroy something that someone else has created or owns and someone scrawling on the wall of a public building in protes.

I'm afraid it has always gone on but the over reaction we have seen from some people on this site because a supporter spays Martinez out has been quite unbelievable.

What is sadly lacking here is perspective. However in this day and age perspective a bit like common sense - something that a good many people don't seem to be able to take a clear view on!

Sid Logan
131 Posted 22/03/2015 at 15:20:46
My new season resolution not yet activated!
Tony Draper
132 Posted 22/03/2015 at 15:38:34
Vandalizing/vandalising is baaaaad.......mmmmmkay !

Vandalizing/vandalising Goodison Park is shamefully FUCKING wrong !

Vandalizing/vandalising Goodison Park by Evertonians.......... is not what true Blues do.

"......those who do not understand...............".

Chris James
133 Posted 22/03/2015 at 15:44:16
So there is at least one 'official' part of Everton that doesn't filter out fan comments then! ;-)

Seriously though, I obviously join the condemnation of the medium which is entirely lacking in the class with which true Evertonians are blessed. I do however have to firmly support the message and can't help but wonder if this will ultimately leave some sort of positive mark in the minds of the board, long after the actual marks have been painted over.

When you spend your life creating spin (and reading your own creation), it gets to the stage that you may end up believing that 90% of the fans really are happy with the progress and the way the club's managed and run.

John Hughes
134 Posted 22/03/2015 at 15:33:34
You know, things were so much more civilised back in the eighties; in those days we only ever used to spray such messages on the Manager's house (Kendall OUT!! for the uninitiated) Standards have slipped I'm afraid.

ps: Martinez out!!

Joe McMahon
135 Posted 22/03/2015 at 16:00:20
I don't see what the problem is.

Like has been said before it's better than being apathetic, it shows passion and many fans are frustrated and at least it informs our Chairman that not all is well with fans feelings.

We have seen football as bad as it gets this season, and watching it in a dilapidated joke of a stadium just underlines how grim our future is, with both current manager and board.

Dave Abrahams
136 Posted 22/03/2015 at 16:34:01
Eugene (128) thanks for the medical lesson, I think you just like brow beating people, but you were right and I was wrong, no problem. Keep your posts coming in, I always enjoy them and that's the truth.
Clive Rogers
137 Posted 22/03/2015 at 17:28:52
Disgraceful, it should say Kenwright out.
Mike Childs
138 Posted 22/03/2015 at 18:10:58
Matt Traynor #8 - Pricessless as entertaining as Stevieme's straight red today.
John Pickles
139 Posted 22/03/2015 at 19:14:05
A prick with a room temperature IQ, as is anyone who condones it !
Christopher Wallace
140 Posted 22/03/2015 at 19:37:27
I'd like to break-up with my girlfriend, so I painted #GetOutBitch on my front window.
Eric Holland
141 Posted 22/03/2015 at 19:49:07
@Jay 74
In a nutshell mate!
If that was all we had to worry about this season!!!
Its a bit of paint it will wash off and disappear overnight.
If only the same could be said of Martinez!!
Charles Brewer
142 Posted 22/03/2015 at 20:17:26
"Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin." Belshazzar's feast.

Patrick Murphy
143 Posted 22/03/2015 at 20:45:49
Jenny Seagrove has tweeted "seems man writing anti Roberto graffiti on wall near Goodison is a LFC low is that"

Brian Harrison
144 Posted 22/03/2015 at 20:54:01

I saw that tweet from Jenny Seagrove, I hope she has got her facts correct otherwise her husband may have some explaining to do.

Mike Hughes
145 Posted 22/03/2015 at 21:01:06
Jenny Seagrove is bang out of order.
Doesn't she know that the rs NEVER do anything wrong?
Make a grovelling apology now Jenny (or a Stevie G as it's commonly known).
Paul Smith
146 Posted 22/03/2015 at 21:05:45
That Delta Taxi graffiti should be removed as well then ....obscene!
Colin Glassar
147 Posted 22/03/2015 at 21:39:00
It’s official, it was Carra and Fowler after a night on the piss. Urine samples have given the police a DNA link to these two social misfits. EFC are expected to press charges tomorrow.
Brian Wilkinson
149 Posted 22/03/2015 at 23:02:18
Will not be a kopite, jesus even they can see the damage hes doing to our club, why would they want rid of him, besides Norwegions letter A is different.

Could be Besic though, joking aside, thats our summer transfer budget blown with the cost of a 5 litre tin of Wilkos Royal Blue paint and roller to paint over.

Colin Glassar
150 Posted 22/03/2015 at 23:11:17
BK’s put out a call for volunteers to come out and paint over it Brian. They have to take their own rollers and paint though.

As we’ve won two in a row the Martinez mural is to be unveiled again for the next home game. Happy days.

Rob Halligan
151 Posted 22/03/2015 at 23:30:41
I was waiting for the coach this morning on Goodison Road and already this graffiti was being cleaned off the walls. Bloody hell, it stunk of turps or whatever they were using to clean it off, but it's gone now.
Ant Dwyer
152 Posted 22/03/2015 at 23:58:31
Graffiti on our ground may not be the brightest thing IÂ’ve seen, but itÂ’s worked a treat truth be told. We have all moaned for months about how clueless our manager is, itÂ’s always fallen on deaf ears. Now, someone has written it on a wall, a wall that can be fixed with a small amount of blue paint, and now people are talking. So IÂ’m okay with it,

Martinez fielded a side today that would most probably have kept our European dreams alive. Martinez also played a 4-4-2 formation which many people wanted to see played against all struggling sides this season when he thought it best to only use one forward and two defensive midfielders at home to clubs like QPR.

The man should resign or be sacked and most of us think this, now itÂ’s been blasted across Goodison, as it should have been from Christmas, not on the walls but on banners. Hopefully this message will hit home and Martinez will go.

Brian Denton
153 Posted 23/03/2015 at 00:17:15
I remember the ’Bingham Out’ painted in Goodison Road took forever to fade completely. Better quality paint or lower quality turps in those days
Max Wilson
156 Posted 23/03/2015 at 09:28:43
I totally agree. Absolutely disgusting. Must be a lot neater writing in future.
Tony J Williams
157 Posted 23/03/2015 at 10:35:53
It all seems a little Bellendish to me to be fair.

I'm just surprised that the spelling is correct.

Love the Gandalf post above and all we need now is some prick dressed as a clown with a cake.....

Michael Evans
160 Posted 23/03/2015 at 21:07:25
Can't condone vandalism whatever the frustrations.

Is it just me, or is there an element of Monty Python's 'Life of Brian' to all this?!

Ralph Basnett
161 Posted 24/03/2015 at 09:01:13
Still here though!!!!!!!

What a waste of paint.

Steven Telford
162 Posted 24/03/2015 at 17:05:51
Theories on the #stones?
Patrick Murphy
163 Posted 24/03/2015 at 17:17:16
Steven #162 I would imagine that the omission of John Stones in Kiev was the final straw for whoever it was that administered the Graffiti and lays bare the claim by Jenny Seagrove that it was a fan from the dark-side who did it.
Steven Telford
164 Posted 25/03/2015 at 04:17:08
I think the idea that it was a Liverpool supporter is ridiculous, for one thing it would have to say the opposite.
(ie. "Matinez in, this is good enough")
Paul Burns
165 Posted 25/03/2015 at 17:10:40
This always used to happen in the past, I remember "Bingham Out" and "Lee Out" among other comments painted on the main stand.

In my eyes, itÂ’s a legitimate campaign; how else are fans supposed to make themselves heard when nobodyÂ’s acting and the club plumbs the depths of incompetence and inadequacy? People shouldnÂ’t be so precious over our ramshackle dump of a stadium.

Are they sure we even own it nowadays after the shady deals Kenwright has pulled to stay in power? Remember the office fiasco at the corner of Walton Lane?

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