Jagielka: No guaranteed places next season

Yes like Luke Garbutt, what a disgrace that will be.

Doubt if expectations next season will be as out-of-kilter with reality.

So yet not only another player telling RM he has got it wrong but this is his team captain.

One day it'll be fun again. I know it will.

There's only Distin, Alcaraz and Garbutt with their contracts up. Martinez has been doling out contract extension like they're going out of fashion, even Hibbert who won't play a game. We're stuck with the rest.

The really scary thing is why would Besic, Garbutt, Barkley, and some other younger players not getting the nod ahead of underperforming "veteran players" not leave?

Hell if I was any of them I'd be like, "Fuck this! I could be Jesus and I'll still get played out of position or only have fucking cameos."

Roberto needs to implement a seismic shift and play "the future" next season, sans maybe Jags.

Robles / New young keeper
Coleman Stones Jags Garbutt
McCarthy Besic
new young RM Barkley new young LM
Lukaku

Stick with the youngins and ride that horse till it drops. Bring in young fast kids on the wings through promoting our younger kids inside the Club or getting someone in the market this summer.

How do I purchase Football Manager for the Mac? I have this figured out I swear.

The manager must take responsibility for formation and style but the lack of fight and desire by the player's has been disgraceful. Those players thinking bigger and better lies beyond this great club. Please leave your locker key and car park pass at reception.

I thought we had one of the best squads for quality in my lifetime supporting this great club coming into the season. Let's sell and bring in players with desire, passion, and hunger to win.

But seriously, I think that our squad is the second-oldest in the league (after – yes, you guessed it! – Man City) and surely Roberto (or someone else) needs to do something about that and fast!

For England, Jags and the left-sided people give Baines plenty of cover and he is able to zip up the wing and get balls across. For Everton, Jags, Barry, Naismith and co, hang around the middle, leaving Baines completely exposed and unable to move forward.

One of the main solutions is quite obvious. We need a big, strong, left-footed, mobile replacement for Distin.

I'll probably get banned for asking, but can someone assure me that next year's results haven't already been decided by some foreign betting syndicate?

Ah well, back to the future...

I wonder will we be guaranteed to see players take shots next year, maybe in the second half of the season - if we behave ourselves and recognise our manager's flexible adaptive approach to the games.

Out of a 26-man squad. I would keep 12, off-load 12 and promote Ledson (17) and McAleny (22). Possibly adding Grant (19) and Green (19).

The "Keep List" is based on young under-30 players with only club captain, Jagielka (32) and Bainsey (30) being the elder statesmen of the squad.

Keep List:

Robles (24), Garbutt (21), Coleman (26), Stones - future captain (20), Jagielka (32), Baines (30), Browning (21), McCarthy (24), Barkley (21), Besic (22) Oviedo (25) and Lukaku (21) = 12 players.

Out List:

Howard (36), Alcaraz (32), Distin (37), Hibbert (34), Barry (34), Osman (33), McGeady (28), Mirallas (27), Naismith (28), Gibson (27), Kone (31), Pienaar (33) = 12 players. These players are either too old, injury prone, at best Championship material, out of form and/or their heart is not at the club.

Sentimentality should also play no part in the case of Osman and Hibbert who have been loyal servants to the club but it is possibly time for them to move on as they (again) at best shall only be squad members (if kept) for next season.

I have not included loan players, Atsu (23) and Lennon (27) as I see Atsu going back to Chelsea but possibly keeping Lennon as he is starting to show some form and settle in which may persuade RM to take a punt and keep him on the roster for next season.

The "Keep List" all have Premier League experience, to date, some only limited game time, but next season they should be regular starters.

It is time now for Martinez to get ruthless. He has had two seasons now to assess the Moyes squad he inherited and the players he has brought in.

He may add to the squad and surprise us with some summer buys but that all depends on how much BK shall give him to spend plus the money we raise from the sale of exiting players.

Interesting to see what others' views are on the squad for next season.

This clown will take us down, he needs to be fired and now.

We are safe from relegation so have nothing to lose in that respect, he is honestly sucking the passion I have for this club out of me.

The bollox he spouts is beyond the pale, he talks in riddles and god only knows what the players think of his post-match analysis. Players know when the team have played shite but to listen to 'El Riddler' you'd think we have just played Barcelona off the park.

It also gives the lie to the idea that we need a 'major overhaul' as the increasingly desperate and frustrated ToffeeWeb consensus seems to be. We need to put the younger players in the side, and use the older ones as back-up, rotation and cameo sub appearances.

Mark (27) seems to sum up the general ToffeeWeb feeling about our older or injured players, but I simply don't think we need to get rid of all 12 in one go. Of his list, I would say:

Howard (36) - back-up, unless an offer comes in or we buy a new keeper
Alcaraz (32) - gone
Distin (37) - gone (meaning a new signing is needed).
Hibbert (34) - possibly asked to work within the youth system
Barry (34) - back-up, start him doing some coaching, his experience could be vital
Osman (33) - back-up
McGeady (28) - gone
Mirallas (27) - reintegrated into the team, or sold for a decent amount of money. This one depends on the player himself, so none of us knows which would be the best approach at this stage.
Naismith (28) - keep and use. Not in the absolute first XI but regular as a sub and rotation.
Gibson (27) - unfortunately, gone. I want to keep him and want him to do well, but we've seen this before, and he's had his chances.
Kone (31) - unless we can persuade someone to pay money for him, I'd keep him as back-up. He's a long way from playing at his best at the moment and he's not as bad as he's looked recently.
Pienaar (33) - keep as back-up, if he's going to be fit. We've missed his intelligent use of space this season.

That means signing a centre back (Virgil Van Dijk for me, although he may be looking at Champions League), two wingers (from Atsu, Deulofeu and Lennon) and a striker (Ings).

It also means properly integrating some of: Jonjoe Kenny, Gethin Jones, Matt Pennington, Tyias Browning, Brendan Galloway, Luke Garbutt, Conor Grant, Ryan Ledson, John Lundstram, Francisco Junior, George Green, Kieran Dowell, Conor McAleny and Chris Long into the first team. That's 14 young players who have first team experience (except Kenny) but haven't contributed much to Everton yet, we could expect 3 or 4 of them to be useful next season.

The need to replace players who are too old or coming to the end of their contracts is the whole reason why the manager should be using the kids to see if they could fill certain positions. It would save the club millions and help concentrate more funds on certain targets and help bring in a higher quality player. Martinez is probably looking for a centre-back but, If Browning and Galloway were given a few games there and proved they are capable of being competitive and doing a good job, imagine how much money that could save the manager for another position? The same theory applies to all the other youth players who are considered on the verge of breaking through, particularly Ledson, Long, McAleny, Henen and Green.

What the manager did in bringing Lukaku, McCarthy and Besic to the club was forward thinking: he concentrated the funds on quality players of a young but similar age. He needs to do the same sort of thing by bringing through some of the youngsters and maybe some loans enabling him to concentrate on players of similar ability or better.

New Goalkeeper / Howard
Coleman / New Right Back
Baines / Garbutt
Jagielka / New Central defender
Stones / Galloway or Browning
McCarthy / Besic
New Creative Central Midfielder / Gibson
New Creative Left Winger / Pienaar
New Right Winger / New Right Winger
Barkley / Naismith
Lukaku / New Striker

I’m working on the presumption that Mirallas is going, Lennon is going back to Spurs, and everyone else is sold and/or released as they’re not good enough.

Howard remains – but as a back-up, aging goalkeeper.

Galloway or Browning – whoever is further developed out of the two.

That’s eight new players needed to provide adequate cover and competition. Four players out of the eight would need to be able to walk into the first-team.

Problem is, if players are under contract and no-one is buying, Everton cannot afford to eat their wages and so will be stuck. More of the younger players should be incorporated like Browning but Garbutt only if Baines is sold. Oviedo can provide cover if that occurs as can Hibbert.

As for Baines, I am not sure what people are blaming him for. He is underperforming only if you view him as an offensive player. He is an outside back, a defensive spot, and generally does it well. If the manager cannot put people beside and ahead of him to provide cover so he can bomb forward, then he must and has stayed back to defend. How and why he is being criticized for doing his primary job is incredible to me and arguably one of the dumbest (other than counting clean sheets as the primary measure of goalkeeper success and who should start) that I have seen in these posts.

I still would go after Trippier (Coleman is gone for the right money) and Boyd (a right or left mid or wing who can actually finish and attacks) who should be available for less than what we paid for Kone.

As for goalkeeper, I would keep Howard as the Number One or a backup and sell Robles (although no one has ever come offering) and get a younger keeper. The only way to keep Robles would be if Cech or someone else (Begovic, Krull, etc) comes our way and then fine get rid of Howard. Arsenal might loan their former Number One or sell him and he is way better than Robles.

There is great football being played around the world. Our scouts should be all over these young talents; instead, all we get are ex-Wigan players.

I'm so let down by the vision of Martinez to bring in gems that we don't know about. He had us all fooled last season, why couldn't he fool a few International youngsters' families into coming to Liverpool when his stock was high (Besic aside).