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Jagielka: No guaranteed places next season

by | 08/04/2015  Comments (42)  jump
Phil Jagielka says that there is no scope for Everton's players coasting for the rest of the season as he admits that most of the squad will be playing for their futures.

With safety from relegation all but assured and qualification for Europe a distant prospect, the Blues have little to play for beyond pride and the extra Premier League revenue that can be attained with each place in the table they can make up over the last seven matches.

The club captain believes, however, that the players themselves have plenty to prove to the manager over the remainder of the season after a disappointing campaign.

If anyone thinks they are guaranteed to start at the beginning of next season and be guaranteed a place, then they would be daft to do so, Jagielka said.

No-one has performed to a level that has been exceptional that makes them a guaranteed starter.

So if you are going to get game time between now and the end of the season then, in my eyes, you are better off trying your best and showing the manager that you are worthy and should be part of his plans for next season.

All of us are desperate to finish as high up as we can so I wouldn't say there is nothing to play for and if there are any players thinking like that then they will get found out and won't get to play in the team anymore.

The England international expects some movement in the transfer window in the summer but he doesn't foresee a huge squad overhaul despite the club falling far short of the standards established over the last few seasons, especially Roberto Martinez's first year in charge.

Transfer speculation will begin to heat up in the coming weeks as the end of the campaign draws near but the skipper says that there is talent in the squad and that Everton will likely make targeted acquisitions when the summer window opens.

There will be some people that leave, inevitably with contracts running out or because games are not getting played and you never know what sort of offers will come in for players, Jagielka said.

I wouldn't use the word 'overhaul' though. We've proved that we are still a pretty good team, it is just finding the formula.

We're not going to have Champions League football to offer [players] and others can offer more wages. So it is a case of the manager sitting tight and seeing what is available and seeing what he can do.

If we've got the money then by all means spend it but we have come that far in my eight or nine years here that we have been careful enough and been very astute with our business plan.

We still have a lot of talent here and plenty of lads with a lot to give and a lot to prove so there will be a few ins and outs but I can't imagine there will be a massive signing, but I'm not privy to what finances the club has got to spend and how many players the manager feels he needs.

Quotes sourced from Daily Post

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Kevin Naylor
1 Posted 08/04/2015 at 18:24:46
Apart of course from Gareth Barry.
Denis Richardson
2 Posted 08/04/2015 at 18:27:22
And tim howard
Colin Glassar
3 Posted 08/04/2015 at 18:31:52
And Bainsey.
Minik Hansen
4 Posted 08/04/2015 at 18:33:57
If anyone can predict the future, it will all be boring. I'm grateful I've got a team I support with my heart, anything can happen and we've got a great club we rely on, get the best of it. COYB.
Paul Kelly
5 Posted 08/04/2015 at 18:42:16
Hopefully he's talking about El Bobs.
Brian Hennessy
6 Posted 08/04/2015 at 18:45:39
Kevin and Denis, you beat me to it.
Brian Hennessy
7 Posted 08/04/2015 at 18:48:31
"There will be some people that leave, inevitably with contracts running out"

Yes like Luke Garbutt, what a disgrace that will be.

Tom R Owen
8 Posted 08/04/2015 at 19:04:45
And any former Wigan players.
Kunal Desai
9 Posted 08/04/2015 at 19:24:30
Yes, there will be spending on more rubbish once big money is received for one of our better players. Nothing will improve under Kenwright! Where is that petition – I need to sign it.
Andy Meighan
10 Posted 08/04/2015 at 19:23:49
We've proved we're still a pretty good team. Er, when? Out the 3 cup competitions early doors and not one performance in the league in the whole of the season that made you get out of your seat. I'd have more respect for the likes of Jagielka and Co if they just told the truth – ie, it's been a disaster and as soon as the season is over the better. What exactly are they scared of?
Des Farren
11 Posted 08/04/2015 at 19:32:52
Sounds like a pretty reasonable resume to me.

Doubt if expectations next season will be as out-of-kilter with reality.

Brian Harrison
12 Posted 08/04/2015 at 19:48:08
I think the most telling part is were Jagielka says " We have proved we are a pretty good team its just finding the formula". I think that roughly translates into RM has been here nearly 2 seasons and he still doesn't know how to get the best out of his squad. Either in selections or team formation, the 2 fundamental things he should have worked out by now.

So yet not only another player telling RM he has got it wrong but this is his team captain.

Christopher Kelly
13 Posted 08/04/2015 at 19:55:34
I just signed the petition. Yes, we need an overhaul; and yes, the only thing we can guarantee is another year of a non top 4 finish with BK around.

One day it'll be fun again. I know it will.

Des Farren
14 Posted 08/04/2015 at 20:00:59
Brian. I think it's quite a jump to interpret Jag's words in the way that you have. "Finding the formula" does not necessarily mean that Martinez is the sole cause of everything and I doubt very much that is what he is saying.
Mick Wrende
15 Posted 08/04/2015 at 20:29:48
Bloody hell... half our team will be looking this summer to see if they can take their pension as a lump sum. Surely some of the arthritic oldies must go???
Clive Rogers
16 Posted 08/04/2015 at 21:54:08

There's only Distin, Alcaraz and Garbutt with their contracts up. Martinez has been doling out contract extension like they're going out of fashion, even Hibbert who won't play a game. We're stuck with the rest.

David Sheen
17 Posted 08/04/2015 at 21:56:53
What will Martinez get to spend this summer? From the rumours I've heard, looks like he's going into the "free transfer" market.

Jamie Crowley
18 Posted 08/04/2015 at 21:59:36
See comments 1, 2 and 3 - says it all really.

The really scary thing is why would Besic, Garbutt, Barkley, and some other younger players not getting the nod ahead of underperforming "veteran players" not leave?

Hell if I was any of them I'd be like, "Fuck this! I could be Jesus and I'll still get played out of position or only have fucking cameos."

Roberto needs to implement a seismic shift and play "the future" next season, sans maybe Jags.

Robles / New young keeper
Coleman Stones Jags Garbutt
McCarthy Besic
new young RM Barkley new young LM

Stick with the youngins and ride that horse till it drops. Bring in young fast kids on the wings through promoting our younger kids inside the Club or getting someone in the market this summer.

How do I purchase Football Manager for the Mac? I have this figured out I swear.

Ian Riley
19 Posted 08/04/2015 at 21:59:37
The manager is going to be here next season but he needs to make big decisions in the summer. All the players are not safe from being shown the door and the right fee for Barkley, Lukaku, Mirallas, and even Baines can go. They are all accountable this season for letting the fans and manager down.

The manager must take responsibility for formation and style but the lack of fight and desire by the player's has been disgraceful. Those players thinking bigger and better lies beyond this great club. Please leave your locker key and car park pass at reception.

I thought we had one of the best squads for quality in my lifetime supporting this great club coming into the season. Let's sell and bring in players with desire, passion, and hunger to win.

Paul Baker
20 Posted 08/04/2015 at 23:42:42
Who needs a massive squad overhaul when we have youngsters like Howard, Alcaraz, Pienaar, Osman, Hibbert, Barry, Koné and Distin, right? I didn't mention Jags as he still represents quality on the pitch.

But seriously, I think that our squad is the second-oldest in the league (after – yes, you guessed it! – Man City) and surely Roberto (or someone else) needs to do something about that and fast!

Minik Hansen
21 Posted 09/04/2015 at 00:01:19
Contracts running out, I think he means Distin, Garbutt gonna sign a new contract anyway. :)
Harold Matthews
22 Posted 09/04/2015 at 01:45:25
I wish Jags and his beloved boss would bring a bit of the England formula to Everton.

For England, Jags and the left-sided people give Baines plenty of cover and he is able to zip up the wing and get balls across. For Everton, Jags, Barry, Naismith and co, hang around the middle, leaving Baines completely exposed and unable to move forward.

One of the main solutions is quite obvious. We need a big, strong, left-footed, mobile replacement for Distin.

Rafizi Ariffin
23 Posted 09/04/2015 at 02:28:17
How's Galloway? May be he's good replacement for Distin. He's big (or maybe tall), strong (am not sure bout that), left-footed, mobile replacement (he is young)
Rob Newling
24 Posted 09/04/2015 at 03:34:57
There's a bloke at work who won the footy tipping 3 years in a row. Last year he put his entire season's tips in a sealed envelope & still won comfortably!

I'll probably get banned for asking, but can someone assure me that next year's results haven't already been decided by some foreign betting syndicate?

Ah well, back to the future...

Steven Telford
25 Posted 09/04/2015 at 05:22:57
Kevin #1 beat us all too it!

I wonder will we be guaranteed to see players take shots next year, maybe in the second half of the season - if we behave ourselves and recognise our manager's flexible adaptive approach to the games.

Andrew Laird
26 Posted 09/04/2015 at 07:30:58
Why are there still guaranteed places this season?
Mark McDonald
27 Posted 09/04/2015 at 07:57:36
The squad definitely needs an overhaul (for next season) as some are getting a bit old in the tooth and some are simply not Premier League material.

Out of a 26-man squad. I would keep 12, off-load 12 and promote Ledson (17) and McAleny (22). Possibly adding Grant (19) and Green (19).

The "Keep List" is based on young under-30 players with only club captain, Jagielka (32) and Bainsey (30) being the elder statesmen of the squad.

Keep List:

Robles (24), Garbutt (21), Coleman (26), Stones - future captain (20), Jagielka (32), Baines (30), Browning (21), McCarthy (24), Barkley (21), Besic (22) Oviedo (25) and Lukaku (21) = 12 players.

Out List:

Howard (36), Alcaraz (32), Distin (37), Hibbert (34), Barry (34), Osman (33), McGeady (28), Mirallas (27), Naismith (28), Gibson (27), Kone (31), Pienaar (33) = 12 players. These players are either too old, injury prone, at best Championship material, out of form and/or their heart is not at the club.

Sentimentality should also play no part in the case of Osman and Hibbert who have been loyal servants to the club but it is possibly time for them to move on as they (again) at best shall only be squad members (if kept) for next season.

I have not included loan players, Atsu (23) and Lennon (27) as I see Atsu going back to Chelsea but possibly keeping Lennon as he is starting to show some form and settle in which may persuade RM to take a punt and keep him on the roster for next season.

The "Keep List" all have Premier League experience, to date, some only limited game time, but next season they should be regular starters.

It is time now for Martinez to get ruthless. He has had two seasons now to assess the Moyes squad he inherited and the players he has brought in.

He may add to the squad and surprise us with some summer buys but that all depends on how much BK shall give him to spend plus the money we raise from the sale of exiting players.

Interesting to see what others' views are on the squad for next season.

Andrew Clare
28 Posted 09/04/2015 at 08:52:17
Let's face it, if substantial sums aren't invested in the squad this summer, it will be the same old same old. We have been in the wilderness for 20 or more years and the board having done nothing to change things. We are perennial also-rans.
Dave Lynch
29 Posted 09/04/2015 at 09:02:56
I keep saying it.

This clown will take us down, he needs to be fired and now.

We are safe from relegation so have nothing to lose in that respect, he is honestly sucking the passion I have for this club out of me.

The bollox he spouts is beyond the pale, he talks in riddles and god only knows what the players think of his post-match analysis. Players know when the team have played shite but to listen to 'El Riddler' you'd think we have just played Barcelona off the park.

Mike Allison
30 Posted 09/04/2015 at 09:06:51
Jamie (18) has picked the same team as I would for next season. My wingers would Deulofeu and Atsu (playing on the left). I know this won't happen because Martinez has had Atsu all season, barely played him at all, and unless I've missed something, has never played him on the left wing (he is a left footed winger, you'd think it'd be worth a little try). Who knows, Mirallas might even decide he's cocked it up and start fighting for his place.

It also gives the lie to the idea that we need a 'major overhaul' as the increasingly desperate and frustrated ToffeeWeb consensus seems to be. We need to put the younger players in the side, and use the older ones as back-up, rotation and cameo sub appearances.

Mark (27) seems to sum up the general ToffeeWeb feeling about our older or injured players, but I simply don't think we need to get rid of all 12 in one go. Of his list, I would say:

Howard (36) - back-up, unless an offer comes in or we buy a new keeper
Alcaraz (32) - gone
Distin (37) - gone (meaning a new signing is needed).
Hibbert (34) - possibly asked to work within the youth system
Barry (34) - back-up, start him doing some coaching, his experience could be vital
Osman (33) - back-up
McGeady (28) - gone
Mirallas (27) - reintegrated into the team, or sold for a decent amount of money. This one depends on the player himself, so none of us knows which would be the best approach at this stage.
Naismith (28) - keep and use. Not in the absolute first XI but regular as a sub and rotation.
Gibson (27) - unfortunately, gone. I want to keep him and want him to do well, but we've seen this before, and he's had his chances.
Kone (31) - unless we can persuade someone to pay money for him, I'd keep him as back-up. He's a long way from playing at his best at the moment and he's not as bad as he's looked recently.
Pienaar (33) - keep as back-up, if he's going to be fit. We've missed his intelligent use of space this season.

That means signing a centre back (Virgil Van Dijk for me, although he may be looking at Champions League), two wingers (from Atsu, Deulofeu and Lennon) and a striker (Ings).

It also means properly integrating some of: Jonjoe Kenny, Gethin Jones, Matt Pennington, Tyias Browning, Brendan Galloway, Luke Garbutt, Conor Grant, Ryan Ledson, John Lundstram, Francisco Junior, George Green, Kieran Dowell, Conor McAleny and Chris Long into the first team. That's 14 young players who have first team experience (except Kenny) but haven't contributed much to Everton yet, we could expect 3 or 4 of them to be useful next season.

Richard Reeves
31 Posted 09/04/2015 at 11:11:46
The manager should (and I think does) know by now who needs to be replaced and who he can rely on... so I don’t think any response from now would have much influence on next season, but more of a threat so that we finish as high as possible. And who’s to say these players won’t put in a shift now only to return to a more relaxed state of mind after their holidays? That’s why this statement doesn’t mean much to me. I’ve seen enough of late-twenties loan players turn to shit after the pressure is off and this is a similar situation.

The need to replace players who are too old or coming to the end of their contracts is the whole reason why the manager should be using the kids to see if they could fill certain positions. It would save the club millions and help concentrate more funds on certain targets and help bring in a higher quality player. Martinez is probably looking for a centre-back but, If Browning and Galloway were given a few games there and proved they are capable of being competitive and doing a good job, imagine how much money that could save the manager for another position? The same theory applies to all the other youth players who are considered on the verge of breaking through, particularly Ledson, Long, McAleny, Henen and Green.

What the manager did in bringing Lukaku, McCarthy and Besic to the club was forward thinking: he concentrated the funds on quality players of a young but similar age. He needs to do the same sort of thing by bringing through some of the youngsters and maybe some loans enabling him to concentrate on players of similar ability or better.

Nev Renshaw
32 Posted 09/04/2015 at 12:10:19
Even the world's greatest players shouldn't go into every match thinking they have the god-given right to be chosen every time. That way they'll stay on top of their game and not get complacent.
Winston Williamson
33 Posted 09/04/2015 at 12:35:02
Going on the premise that you need two players for each position and that the formation is likely to be 4-2-3-1, here’s my possible squad for next season:

New Goalkeeper / Howard
Coleman / New Right Back
Baines / Garbutt
Jagielka / New Central defender
Stones / Galloway or Browning
McCarthy / Besic
New Creative Central Midfielder / Gibson
New Creative Left Winger / Pienaar
New Right Winger / New Right Winger
Barkley / Naismith
Lukaku / New Striker

I’m working on the presumption that Mirallas is going, Lennon is going back to Spurs, and everyone else is sold and/or released as they’re not good enough.

Howard remains – but as a back-up, aging goalkeeper.

Galloway or Browning – whoever is further developed out of the two.

That’s eight new players needed to provide adequate cover and competition. Four players out of the eight would need to be able to walk into the first-team.

Winston Williamson
34 Posted 09/04/2015 at 12:46:26
Additionally, I would offer Hibbert, Osman and Distin coaching roles at the club. Osman could remain in the squad, maybe as a personal tutor to Barkley to help on decision-making.
David Sheen
35 Posted 09/04/2015 at 12:57:31
What happened to all our youngsters that were going to be given a chance last year?

Tony Foxwell
36 Posted 09/04/2015 at 14:17:52
We need to beat Swansea on Saturday... then play Robles, Browning, Stones, Galloway, Garbutt as our back five, with Ledson, McCarthy, Barkley our three central midfielders.Get McAleny and Long back from loan and give them the chance to show us what they can do up top with Rom. Then the bench: Jagielka, Baines, Besic, Lennon, Naismith, Osman, Kenny. Then we know who is ready for next season and then we buy players for the positions we need filling. Try youth before throwing what bit of money the board give the manager.
Mike Childs
37 Posted 09/04/2015 at 14:26:37
I can't even get excited about the future until Martinez is gone. Only a complete moron benches a goalkeeper after three clean sheets in a row. His moves this year have proven without a doubt that last year's success was a fluke for him.
Jim Hardin
38 Posted 09/04/2015 at 17:14:27
Why is Deulefeu even wanted? He isn't good enough for Barça, isn't good enough on loan to be a starter, and wasn't good enough here. Why would anyone spend more money on fast players who cannot finish or have limited tactical and technical ability? We already have McGeady and Lennon who are fast and have limited ability. Both would be on my cut list and spend their wages on Mirallas to keep him.

Problem is, if players are under contract and no-one is buying, Everton cannot afford to eat their wages and so will be stuck. More of the younger players should be incorporated like Browning but Garbutt only if Baines is sold. Oviedo can provide cover if that occurs as can Hibbert.

As for Baines, I am not sure what people are blaming him for. He is underperforming only if you view him as an offensive player. He is an outside back, a defensive spot, and generally does it well. If the manager cannot put people beside and ahead of him to provide cover so he can bomb forward, then he must and has stayed back to defend. How and why he is being criticized for doing his primary job is incredible to me and arguably one of the dumbest (other than counting clean sheets as the primary measure of goalkeeper success and who should start) that I have seen in these posts.

I still would go after Trippier (Coleman is gone for the right money) and Boyd (a right or left mid or wing who can actually finish and attacks) who should be available for less than what we paid for Kone.

As for goalkeeper, I would keep Howard as the Number One or a backup and sell Robles (although no one has ever come offering) and get a younger keeper. The only way to keep Robles would be if Cech or someone else (Begovic, Krull, etc) comes our way and then fine get rid of Howard. Arsenal might loan their former Number One or sell him and he is way better than Robles.

Ross Edwards
39 Posted 09/04/2015 at 17:41:13
Hey Jim, anyone who isn't good enough for Barça I'd have here tomorrow. The talent they produce is phenomenal.
Christopher Kelly
40 Posted 09/04/2015 at 17:50:41
Delboy was good for us but apparently Evertonians don't watch other teams play as we keep hearing the same names: Delboy, Nolito, Perisic – all players that have done well against us....

There is great football being played around the world. Our scouts should be all over these young talents; instead, all we get are ex-Wigan players.

I'm so let down by the vision of Martinez to bring in gems that we don't know about. He had us all fooled last season, why couldn't he fool a few International youngsters' families into coming to Liverpool when his stock was high (Besic aside).

Stephen O'Donnell
41 Posted 09/04/2015 at 18:10:49
Let's bring Stubbsy back as our manager. He is one of us and doing a great job at Hibernian.
Peter Fearon
42 Posted 09/04/2015 at 21:35:17
Barry, Kone, McGeady, Alcaraz, Gibson off the payroll. Atsu back to Chelski and Lennon back to Spurs. Mirallas sold to raise some cash to buy Janazaj who can give Lukaku the service he desperately needs without all the histrionics.

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