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Martinez pleased with Kone's progress

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Roberto Martinez says that Arouna Kone is benefitting from a run in the Everton team after spending so long on the sidelines with a knee injury.

The Ivorian has started the Blues' last three matches, two of those alongside Romelu Lukaku, but has yet to add to his solitary Premier League goal scored at Newcastle in the final match of 2014.

With Lukaku injured and doubtful for Saturday's clash with Swansea City at the Liberty Stadium, Martinez feels it's an opportunity for the 31-year-old Kone to impress as the lone striker.

It was very important that Arouna had a good run-out in terms of being able to show what he is as a player with no restrictions from his injury, Martinez said.

He is a player who is very important in terms of what the team needs on the football pitch. He has been able to play with Rom and he's also been able to play on his own.

His work rate has been fantastic and his back-to-goal play is really strong.

It's important for him to accumulate minutes because he's been out for so long. Slowly we are getting to see his big strengths.  

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James Carroll
1 Posted 08/04/2015 at 19:16:43
He's better on the bench – or in the stands.
Anthony Flack
2 Posted 08/04/2015 at 19:16:22
Jesus H...

I recognise that he cannot come out and say, "Sorry, lads, he is just not good enough." – But, when he clearly is not good enough, it further undermines his credibility to say he is pleased with his progress.

Three times on Saturday, good attacks were squandered when Kone kicked the ball straight to their defenders, generally over a distance of about 10 metres. It is true he did receive the ball quite well a couple of times.

His work rate is not good, he hesitates, his instinct is not to chase, he remembers he has to, and always arrives just to late at ¾ pace. He shitted out of a challenge on Saturday, and just compare the differing impact Naismith had in the first five minutes after he came on...

I do not hate Kone, I am not picking on him, I am trying to be accurate. I am developing a truly unhealthy dislike for Martinez, even beginning to like Brenda more... sorry, well, maybe not.

Mike T Jones
3 Posted 08/04/2015 at 19:29:42
"It was very important that Arouna had a good run-out in terms of being able to show what he is as a player with no restrictions from his injury," Martinez said.

He's shown us he isn't very good!

Trevor Peers
4 Posted 08/04/2015 at 19:30:16
How does RM expect us to take him seriously when he comes out with these outrageous statements? I went on Saturday and Kone bless him tried his heart out, but as a striker he's just not good enough – he has made no progress this season at all and will never score enough goals at this level. We need to offload him in the summer. Now it looks like he'll be staying for the foreseeable future.
John Doyle
5 Posted 08/04/2015 at 19:49:20
Incredible that Martinez could be pleased with the performance of this complete waste of money. He is trying to justify one of the worst transfer decisions in our club's history. Kone makes Brett Angell look brilliant.
Joe Foster
7 Posted 08/04/2015 at 20:17:40
I refuse to get involved this time.
Joe Foster
8 Posted 08/04/2015 at 20:24:09
Ha, ha, ha... but it’s so funny, I am not sure I can resist.
Iain Love
9 Posted 08/04/2015 at 20:17:09
What does Martinez see that we don't?

It appears we are now safe from relegation, which to me means Martinez is staying. The thing is, he will be tasked to improve the side in the summer but, if he likes Kone, the striker's position probably won't get any attention or money. When players like Ings and Austin might be available, we should be in the market.

Mick Wrende
10 Posted 08/04/2015 at 20:27:06
I don't know why Martinez has to keep coming out with this stream of detritus. Kone has shown us he is absolute shite and has no place in any Everton side. Heaven help us if he adds this standard of player in the summer. We shall be bottom from August to May.
Joe Foster
11 Posted 08/04/2015 at 20:31:37
Am starting to feel like Inspector Dreyfus and RM is Clousaeu...
Trevor Peers
12 Posted 08/04/2015 at 20:36:31
Joe, your eye will start twitching when he signs Cleverley and pronounces him the new Alan Ball, and says Alcaraz reminds him of Brian Labone!
Paul Thompson
13 Posted 08/04/2015 at 20:49:08
Yes, his work rate is good and his hold-up play isn't bad. But everything else is (bad). Kone's decision-making makes Barkley look like Einstein. And, unfortunately, his injury has meant some loss of pace. He's certainly not a solution to anything I can think of.
Rob Halligan
14 Posted 08/04/2015 at 20:55:04
The only thing to benefit will be his bank balance with a win bonus from the last few games!!
Dave Abrahams
15 Posted 08/04/2015 at 20:52:06
I expect him to sign Cleverley for the simple reason he will not cost a transfer fee. I don't think he is as bad as people are saying on here. I also expect Everton to sign more free-transfer players for the simple explanation that we are skint and we will need to sell in order to buy.
Phil Sammon
16 Posted 08/04/2015 at 21:24:23
I honestly believe that Martinez has spent more minutes discussing Konè than Kone has spent on the pitch.
Ross Edwards
17 Posted 08/04/2015 at 21:31:32
Ha ha ha. Apologies for that. What progress is this then? He's gone from sitting on the bench doing fuck all for months on end to getting on the pitch and doing fuck all.

1 goal. Against Newcastle which we still lost. Wow.

Harold Matthews
18 Posted 08/04/2015 at 21:33:15
Been a big disappointment so far. Hope he comes good against Swansea.
Clive Rogers
19 Posted 08/04/2015 at 21:48:38
He's been getting better for nearly two seasons. At this rate he should be in tip top condition just before he retires.
David Barks
20 Posted 08/04/2015 at 21:42:01
"He is a player who is very important in terms of what the team needs on the football pitch."

What the hell does that mean??!!! As opposed to a player who is very important in terms of what the team DOES NOT need on the football pitch? Or a player who is not important in terms of what the team needs on the football pitch?

Seriously, I've never known anyone to speak such absolute nonsense. I would seriously hope that a player on the pitch is needed on the pitch. That would seem to be step one in selecting a starting 11.

I can just picture the conversation
Bobby: "Do we think a keeper is important and needed on the pitch today?"

Assistant: "Well if the opposing team gets a shot on goal we might like to have a keeper in there".

Bobby: "Good point, Howard starts. Do we think we need Defenders?"

Assistant: "Well, the opposing team will more than likely try to score a goal, going back to the previous conversation about the need for a keeper. So in my professional opinion yes, defenders would be important in terms of what we are trying to do on the football pitch. Plus, who would put midfield pass it backward to if we don't have defenders in there?"

Bobby: "That is phenomenal thinking. Can't believe I didn't think of that. So if we have a keeper and a defense, do we think a striker is really important to what we are trying to do on the football pitch? It seems like he would have to play it through the midfield in order to pass it to our defenders. So couldn't we just skip Kone?"

Assiatant: "excellent point. How many Barry's can we start?"

Stu Smith
21 Posted 08/04/2015 at 21:56:41
RM is not going to turn around and say he made a mistake signing him. For 2 reasons; 1 he made a mistake and 2 if he says he is improving, doing well etc we might still recoup a decent figure for him when we sell in the summer.
David Sheen
22 Posted 08/04/2015 at 22:03:46
Kone has something that Lukaku hasn't got, and that's a first touch and link up play. He would do well if he just got a run in the team, which he won't get.
John Gee
23 Posted 08/04/2015 at 22:42:00
David, Kone has something else Lukaku doesn't have. A Bupa privilege card.

It's sad to say after almost 2 years, but the jury is out on Kone. Let's hope he stays injury free and has a good pre-season.

Brian Porter
24 Posted 08/04/2015 at 22:49:38
Kone is barely up to Championship standard as far as strikers are concerned (1 goal?). Hmmm, I think we've been well and truly had.

He blew his chance to show us what he can do last week, and was appalling. Did we buy him as a sort of living crash test dummy for the medical and physio teams to practice on? It sure wasn't for his silky skills or devastating scoring ability.

Martinez has to be judged on his signing as well as results (bad enough), and apart from Besic he hasn't done very well in that department. Lennon is on loan, keep him if we can, but he brought in Atsu who was great in the African Cup, but has barely seen the pitch at Goodison, so why loan him in in the first place?

McGeady hasn't worked, and Barry has faded since signing full time but seems to be a shoe-in for the first team.

Back to the point and no matter how fit RM says he is, Kone just isn't first team material, and never will be.

Patrick Murphy
25 Posted 08/04/2015 at 23:04:42
Can we swap Kone for Lacina Traore another mysterious arrival at Goodison Park in recent years. I can only think that part of the pay-off to Wigan as compensation for Roberto's moving, was for Everton to take the three amigos (Kone, Alcaraz and Robles) off Wigan's wage bill, they have added very little to the squad since their arrival and don't look like they will add too much in the coming years.
Tom Bowers
26 Posted 08/04/2015 at 23:25:37
Neither Kone, Mirallas nor Naismith are the answer to Everton's second striker problem. Kone may be okay as a desperate late substitute, Nessie grafts hard and is intelligent around the box but not a real forward target man in a 4-4-2 system and Mirallas has disappointed this season and seems to want away.

If QPR go down then Charlie Austen would be one I would go for to assist Lukaku.

RM has his favourites and may feel loyal to his own purchases and the current squad but quite honestly he would be wrong not to have a fire sale come the end of the season.

Everton are carrying too much dead wood.

These remaining games should be used to start the likes of Besic, Atsu, Oviedo, Browning and Garbutt.

Phil Sammon
27 Posted 08/04/2015 at 23:38:09
Completely agree with David Barks.

"He is a player who is very important in terms of what the team needs on the football pitch."

That sentence alone should be a sackable offence. What the hell is he talking about. Every utterance that passes his lips is cryptically twisted and altogether meaningless.

Michael O'Brien
28 Posted 08/04/2015 at 23:40:37
I can't believe what I'm reading, but I guess sums up our manager really, he pleased with the form of players like Kone. I was at QPR and the amount times he gave the ball away... appalling.
Steve Hogan
29 Posted 08/04/2015 at 23:59:07
Please Roberto, no more press statements, I'm trying to think of that Peter Sellers film, think he was a gardener, and every time he spoke,people would believe it was the prophet speaking.

Perhaps Roberto is hoping he eventually has the same effect on the fans?

It could be the second coming, were just not recognising it...

Patrick Murphy
30 Posted 09/04/2015 at 00:14:10
Steve #29 Greg O'Keefe from the Echo did warn supporters not to judge Roberto by what he says some weeks back - I'm beginning to understand why. I would have thought that a basic requirement of a manager in any walk of life is to be a good communicator but RM seems to spout 100 words when 10 would suffice.

Perhaps someone should give him a crash course in Scouse and see how that works out. But seriously the man has lived and worked in Britain for long enough to have some understanding of how the general population think and speak - I do wonder whether he deliberately talks in riddles for his own amusement and when he gets back to FF has a good laugh with the players and staff as to how he has bemused the Journo's.

Patrick Murphy
31 Posted 09/04/2015 at 00:26:26
Steve #29 - The film was "Being There" Peter Sellers played "Chance the Gardener" which was misheard as Chauncey Gardiner and he unwittingly became the advisor to the US President.
Steve Hogan
32 Posted 09/04/2015 at 00:33:04
Thanks Patrick, the old grey matter is not what it used to be.
Andy Crooks
33 Posted 09/04/2015 at 00:56:30
David # 22, I agree, Kone, with a good run in the side would , in my view, be a very useful player. Much like Robles, I suppose. I think that players who are short of top class need a lot of game time to be at their best. Naismith is an example of this.

This is why rotation to facilitate the Europa League doesn't work. Europa League teams don't have players who are good enough to hit top form quickly. They cost too much.

Harold Matthews
34 Posted 09/04/2015 at 02:22:18
Yes Andy. You're probably right mate. It's why Martinez is so obsessed with Premier League experience. Everything happens so quickly. It can't be replicated in Europa or on the training pitch. Game-time is the only way to get up to the required speed. Fast movement, fast thinking. Initially there will be many mistakes and many howls of derision but minutes on the pitch will definitely help improve things.
James Stewart
35 Posted 09/04/2015 at 03:11:49
Martinez must be about the only one who is.
Tony Marsh
36 Posted 09/04/2015 at 07:27:59
Every time Martinez speaks... I cringe. This latest nonsense is a real mystery. We're does this drivel come from?

Koné is Scottish Premier League standard – just like Naismith.

Clive Lewis
37 Posted 09/04/2015 at 08:32:33
The purchase of Kone shows one thing: Roberto is out of his depth!.
Dave Abrahams
38 Posted 09/04/2015 at 08:38:43
I stopped listening to Martinez months ago. When he talks it's like hearing Stanley Unwin, an old time TV act and film star: he talked absolute gibberish as part of his act, maybe Bobby is copying him.
Eddie Dunn
39 Posted 09/04/2015 at 08:40:14
These nonsensical utterances from our manager make our fans cringe. What do the players think of it all, and for that matter the Chairman and his cronies? Is he not just one big embarrassment?

As for Kone, I know he is trying his best, and hopefully, he will get match fit and start scoring some goals, but I wasn't impressed with him at Wigan, when he was fit. He doesn't look suited to the lone role up top, and will the boss play two up front at Swansea?

I can't see it happening.

Paul Hughes
40 Posted 09/04/2015 at 09:02:19
Tony (36), Kone is Highland League standard. About 4 divisions below Naismith.
Eugene Ruane
41 Posted 09/04/2015 at 08:56:31
I remember us playing and beating Wigan (I think 2-1) at Goodison and being terrified of Kone – couldn't believe we got the win.

Having seen him a few times this year, I have to wonder if it's the same feller...

His recent performances basically look like this to me:


Tony Cheek
42 Posted 09/04/2015 at 10:49:26
Amazingly, the only player Martinez took with him from Wigan that looks like he could be an investment (IMO) is Robles. Yes, I know a lot of fans rave about McCarthy, but to me he is just a workhorse and always will be. A bloody good workhorse no doubt, but what on earth happened to the word QUALITY at Everton? Yes, we need fighters in midfield but I also would like to see threaded passes, shots on goal.

How many shots on target do you think our midfield players have had this season? I wouldn't mind betting it's the least in the Premier League, and I bet it's Osman that has had most, even if he has been out most of the season. Christ, what I would do to see a Silva, a Coutinho, a Cazorla. Christ, I might even start watching games again!

Karl Parsons
45 Posted 09/04/2015 at 11:53:32
Typical Martinez. Accepts mediocrity. Just shut up please.
Harold Matthews
46 Posted 09/04/2015 at 12:47:41
Great stuff Eugene. Absolutely spot on. HaHa. lol. Love the passing, the movement and the non-stop chat. Wonder if that's Martinez on the touch-line or hypo Naismith having a word in his ear? lol. Cheers mate.
Peter Fearon
47 Posted 09/04/2015 at 13:43:32
It would be ludicrous for any manager of any club anywhere to say "this player is not anywhere good enough". The expression "pleased with his progress" is a term of art. It is the least complimentary thing he can say if, as seems likely, he is forced to play him in Rom 's absence.

Personally I would put anyone up front before Kone.

Steve Hogan
48 Posted 09/04/2015 at 14:11:52
Thursday 12 noon, just listened to RM's press conference at FF.

I quote: "Darren Gibson is NOT injury prone, just unlucky" ... Nurse... where's my medication?

Steve Brown
49 Posted 09/04/2015 at 14:17:55
"His back-to-goal play is very strong." – His face-to-goal play is diabolical. He has scored 30 goals in 8 years.

Get rid.

Roger Helm
50 Posted 09/04/2015 at 14:20:48
Well, he's gone from doing nothing at all (not his fault being injured) to doing something, albeit badly, so I suppose that is progress, of a sort.
Phil Walling
51 Posted 09/04/2015 at 14:53:13
All is revealed. A mate from Wigan just emailed me to say that Richard Dodd writes all this comedian's press utterances.

Come to think of it, their styles are somewhat similar. All their geese are swans!

Mark Andersson
52 Posted 09/04/2015 at 14:56:25
If Kone is as bad as most of you think, I feel sorry for him. Poor man just followed the Pied Piper who no doubt fills him full of bullshit.

This post is becoming a prelude to a pantomime. Funny as some comments are, I worry about the long-term future.

Surely to god the board know what we know... but, then again, ego is the death of many a great fool.

Paul Dark
53 Posted 09/04/2015 at 10:58:20
Never has such a ridiculous man brought so many people of different persuasions together at EFC.

Martinez Out!

David Holroyd
54 Posted 09/04/2015 at 17:59:08
We need to get rid of that halfwit Martinez. He is treating us all like idiots ever time he speaks. Maybe it's cos he's Spanish, and when he says something it doesn't translate. No, on reflection, it's pure bollocks

Whatever money we have to spend, should we let him have it? No bloody way. Go, Martinez, go.

Frank Crewe
55 Posted 09/04/2015 at 17:29:44
There appears to be players who make a career out of being average. AKA journeyman players. They move from club to club to club yet never get beyond benchwarmer status. Kone is one of these players.

His "best" days, assuming he ever had any, are far behind him. As has already been pointed out 30 goals scored in 8 years. Speaks for itself. He's just collecting wages. I can't blame him for that. If I was in his boots, so would I. But, from the club's perspective, he's simply a drain on our financial resources.

I'm sure there's a Championship, or lower, club – Wigan comes to mind – crying out for an over-the-hill striker who hardly ever scores. Let him go and be a drain on their wage bill instead of ours.

Clive Rogers
56 Posted 09/04/2015 at 18:22:30
He's 32 before the start of next season. We should be looking to replace a striker of that age anyway.
Victor Jones
57 Posted 09/04/2015 at 18:12:16
It was unfortunate that Kone sustained a very serious injury, as I think that, without it, he could have been a good squad player for Everton. But time waits for no man. And it most certainly waits for no footballer. His time at Everton must be limited. But who knows, with that idiot that we have in charge? Who the fuck knows? Does he even know himself, what he is talking about?

Everton supporters always applaud a trier. We applaud players with limited skill; as long as they run about, we applaud them. We have had far too many talentless triers. I now want to see Martinez bring in some skill. A centre-forward who can hold up the ball and bring other players into the game. A centre-forward who can head the ball. A centre-forward who can put it up to defenders. A centre-forward who can score goals. Kone is not that centre-forward. And neither is Lukaku... yet.

I want to hear that Martinez is scouting for a world class forward to come to Everton. Not a load of nonsense about how great Kone is doing. There was a time when I was prepared to give Kone a chance, but we cannot wait forever. Time now to get rid. And the rest of the deadwood and walking wounded can go as well. Although I would not hold my breath on any of that happening.

I really hope that I am wrong, but next season could be every bit as terrible as this season. Someone joked that Martinez thinks that Cleverly could be the next Alan Ball. More like the next Bobby Ball, IMO. And that Alcaraz is the next Labone. Please don't joke about these things, cause I believe that that is how Martinez really does think. I believe that nothing much will change, between now and the start of next season. We will be going into next season with Howard, Alcaraz, Barry, McGeady, Kone, Atsu, Pienaar and Lennon, and possibly Cleverly. Not to mention an older Osman and Hibbert, and an injury-prone Gibson. God help us. Scary times ahead.

Victor Jones
58 Posted 09/04/2015 at 18:46:28
I'll keep this short. No long rants. I believe that Kone has scored 2 goals for Everton since he joined (I could be wrong). Simply not good enough, by any standards. That record just about betters Hibbo's. He would need to score at least 6, before the end of the season, for me to even want him at Everton for next season.

Why did Martinez offload Jelavic in favour of Kone? I will never understand the reasoning of this clown. Never.

Ray Said
59 Posted 09/04/2015 at 19:56:46
A promising 31-year-old?
Peter Fearon
60 Posted 09/04/2015 at 20:34:56
You know, Kone – much as I agree he is a waste of space – is not the first over-the-hill or simply inadequate striker foisted on us. I didn't read all this venom directed at Moyes or Smith over Yakubu or Anichebe or Beattie or Francis Jeffers or Joe-Max Moore or Brian McBride or Ibrahim Bakayoko. Kone was brought in as a reserve. He has not worked out. He will likely be gone in the Summer.

Because of the current hate on for Martinez – no matter what the performance or result, it seems – suddenly having an inadequate, seldom-used reserve striker assumes immense importance. I suspect even if we win on Saturday, it will not be enough to silence the critics even for an hour or so. Indeed, I suspect one or two of you are ambivalent about whether we win or lose.

Ross Edwards
61 Posted 09/04/2015 at 20:54:29
This season ended in Kiev, Peter. The last 6 games are irrelevant. Don't know why this meaningless game on Saturday is on BT. We'll probably just scrape 10th but the performances have been so bad this season it's got to the stage where I'm no longer excited or optimistic about any Everton game. Even Moyes's teams at their worst never did that.
Patrick Murphy
62 Posted 09/04/2015 at 21:23:12
According to the Echo "Everton ready to move for Adnan Januzaj" a full report is in the Manchester Evening News. I would prefer him to Lennon but we'll probably end up with Lennon and it also begs the question which Everton player are Man Utd interested in.

The MEN, Daily Mirror and Echo all have the same set-up with regards their club websites, I know the Echo and the Mirror are part of the same group but is the Manchester Evening News under their umbrella too?

Andy Crooks
63 Posted 09/04/2015 at 21:31:26
Peter, I do not believe there are any Evertonians who are ambivalent about whether we win or lose.
Mark Frere
64 Posted 09/04/2015 at 21:49:38
Peter, I don't think Kone was brought in as a reserve striker. Martinez decided to fork out ٤ million for a 29-year-old striker who he trusted from his Wigan days. Martinez obviously expected Kone to hit the ground running and get 3 good seasons out of him.

٤ million didn't make much business sense because there would obviously be no resale value on him, but I think everyone forgets Kone was a really good player at Wigan. He scored 13 PL goals in the season Wigan were relegated, he could play upfront on his own or just behind the striker, and he often give defenders a torrid time.

I remember him being a real nightmare against us – he ran our defence ragged and Heitinga in particular could not handle him.

At the moment, I just think we are seeing a very rusty player who has just come back into the team after an 18-month injury lay-off. We will probably never see the Kone we saw from his Wigan days, as he's 31 now and will have lost a bit of pace and sharpness. Kone has turned out to be a very bad signing but that isn't necessarily Matinez's fault because he couldn't have predicted that Kone would get injured.

Paul Jeronovich
65 Posted 09/04/2015 at 22:00:10
Kone is shit, full stop. His record as a journeyman striker is poor apart from one average season with Levante. Now we're stuck with him unless Steve Bruce throws some money our way!
Paul O'Neill
66 Posted 10/04/2015 at 13:28:01
And so all the predictable bile starts. I was at the Saints game and Kone was dreadful, but in public, what the hell else is his manager supposed to say? Slag off his own player and undermine his confidence and chances further? That's what Liverpool managers do.

Come seasons end or early next year he'll be out on his ear if performances don't improve but meanwhile it's the party line and supporting him from management and that, to me, is fair enough.

Eugene Ruane
67 Posted 11/04/2015 at 12:03:15
Well I think I've figured out his training regime (but I think he's doing it more than 13 times).


Max Wilson
68 Posted 12/04/2015 at 17:08:05
Having just come back from Swansea where Kone was, frankly, a liability to his team mates, I hope Martinez has now learned enough about his lack of skill and judgement. His physical speed was there still, over a short distance. His speed of thinking totally lacking. He was lucky not to get sent off after two clumsy fouls and lots of bad challenges.

He was eventually hauled off after 76 minutes, far too late for any substitute to make any impact. Kone's ball control was abysmal and he wasted lots of balls sent to him and spent too much energy chasing aimlessly about, like Naismith who replaced him. The only worse performance we've seen lately from a Martinez man has been Alcaraz.

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