Martinez not looking beyond the next game regarding Robles

What position? Being a fucking goalie?

Some right rubbish has come out of RM's mouth in his time at Everton. But this takes the cake. It's one excuse after another with this guy.

It would take me all night to catalogue every mistake that I have seen Howard make. Most of his "howlers" have cost Everton points, and still he plays every week. I just wonder why Ferguson let him leave Man Utd. Answers on a postcard.

Our defenders also need to learn how to attack a ball. Just head the bloody thing clear, wide, over the bar, out for a corner.

I hope that Robles plays well tonight.

Playing the populist media/supporters card is easy. Mourinho has done it for years. However, it might just now have run its course.

Basically says Tim is undroppable, unlike the ball.

Might be good management technique, but actually poor football management. Everyone should fear for their place.

Especially the GK and striker.

How many people trot out the line "he is a good shot stopper" (even though stats prove he is the worst in the league)... a truly idiotic statement to try and defend a goalkeeper, of course he can stop shots occasionally he is a fucking goalkeeper! (As long as those shots are not from distance or a few yards away or on target).

Why don't we all try these statements with equal conviction; That fella in midfield is a good passer... That winger can dribble, That bloke up front has a decent shot, that defender can tackle... That guy in black blows a mean whistle.

Howard cannot command his area, is seemingly scared of the ball whenever it is near him, is flat-footed and never on his toes to react with little sidesteps (watch the 2nd goal at Arsenal and his little jump on the spot exactly when the free kick is taken, he leaves himself flat footed and unable to react whatsoever). Howard is beaten too easily at his near post, let's long shots in far too much and is about as composed with the ball at his feet as Gary Glitter driving a school bus.

Let the fella clean everyone's boots if you want him around the dressing room, buy him a mop and bucket if you have to but do not let him on the pitch in a replica shirt Roberto.

Fucking hell, Sherlock.

As a goalie as a kid, I was always told any ball that comes into the 6-yard box is yours; if need be, take out the attacker and your defender to get it, but never stay on your line. Even if you challenge the striker and he heads it in, there's always a good chance that the ref will blow for a foul.

Looking at both goals on Saturday evening, Howard is stood rooted on his line when the ball comes into the six yard box, as for the Giroud one, I reckon that even if Giroud hadn't got a touch it would have gone in as Howard is already on his way down.

Jesus, the man wants sacking for that statement alone. If a young player can't aspire to hold down a starting place then they all might as well pack up and go home. What a ridiculous comment to add to Martinez' catalogue of foot-in-mouth blunders.

I'd be fuming to hear that sort of jibberish from a manager who's team were performing well...never mind the turgid stuff this guy is churning out week after week.

I really do despair.

Doesn't want to drop Howard and is talking rubbish in order to back him.

Saw the Arsenal goals in my hotel in Freemantle last night and they looked pretty poor. However, a defence that allows 5 free headers in four games might want to be looking at themselves also.

Martinez ultimately gets paid to pick his team and on that he will be judged. The easy call might actually be to drop Howard for Sunday, it looks like he won't. Therefore in his opinion, obviously not shared widely he's making his call. You can see that as either stubbornness or conviction depending on your point of view.

Mike Price (#19) calling on Everton supporters to turn on their own players is nothing short of disgraceful. I get fans' frustration, it sounds like it was evident last night but to orchestrate against a player, not for me.

Some people voice discontent every single week, some don't, it's free speech. This situation, in my opinion, justifies dissent.

He could be sunning himself in Spain and just leave a cardboard cut-out of himself on little wheels and a bog standard recording of his inane postmatch drivel on an SD card... who would notice?

I'd make Big Dunc the manager helped by ex-players who love our club. If you didn't give your heart and soul for that royal blue shirt, we should let him kick the shite out off you and get rid.

The way we play is like our manager, dull, predictable, one-dimensional, lethargic, uninspirational. Bilic should have been our man, ex-Blue knows players around Europe and is animated and heard from his line a proper manager. Adios RM

I actually think Howard (notwithstanding some recent debacles) is a better keeper than Robles who if given a run of say 10 games would not cut it. I was not best chuffed when RM brought him over from Wigan.

RM is actually right about saying they all could have done better for putting Howard in that position in the 6 yard box – so how about defensive training against crosses Roberto?

Or am I missing something?

I totally agree with most that TH is a shadow of his former self and I worry in fact that we are stuck with a choice of TH or JR between the sticks. And like I asked - what other prem side would JR (either of them in fact) walk in to?

However, I still think TH is the less stinky.

Although Tim is allegedly six foot-two, he lacks the physical presence of a really big goalie, and many on TW suggest he is reluctant to get hurt. I don't think Tim is a big girl's blouse, but he is perhaps worried that he would look a right twit, should he attempt to come for one of these crosses and completely miss it!

It is the sort of basic goalkeeping problem that the keeper's coach should have addressed. It hasn't been sorted out, and he is still rooted to his line. With enforced changes in personnel in central defence, it is imperative that he should take the pressure off his two young colleagues by commanding the area.

Robles deserves his chance, and was unlucky last season to lose his place. As he is so big, he is naturally better equipped to dominate the box, but he will only improve if he gets games under his belt.

I am sick of Roberto blindly picking his favourites, and see this as another example of his stubbornness. When the vast majority of fans can see more clearly than the manager, he looks a fool.

I believe he is a coward in goalkeeping terms. His latest tactic in sliding in with his legs locked and studs up to win a ball he could collect with his hands and smother with his body is further evidence, I'm afraid; he is very wary of getting hurt.

Tim Howard's time as first choice at Everton is up and if our manager cannot see this when everyone else can, then I don't know... I want to believe Martinez can still do a job with Everton but I am becoming very very disillusioned with him. He has a great bunch of young players around him and there is a big opportunity to mould a very good team that can stick around for a while but it is in danger of all going terribly wrong.

I mean, I am not a huge fan of Kevin Mirallas, I have been critical of his attitude but now it seems to me that Martinez has just pissed this guy off so much he doesn't care any more and the same is now happening with Robles. How is Robles expected to get better if he doesn't get a chance especially when he delivers the goods!

Does he deserve to start on Sunday? – yes, he does because he earned last night. He produced a save from a header late on that would have beaten Howard.

Martinez needs to really start getting tough and stop talking bollocks to the media.

The obsession with 2 defensive mids, the loyalty to Howard, and the pissing about with the side in the only competition we can realistically win (in the FA Cup some of our sides in Europe will be dropping out and the Cup becomes more interesting).

Add to all this the lack of balance at times, and playing people out of position, even when natural options are available. It all undermines the manager's status, especially when he starts talking clap-trap. Hopefully, he will be absorbing all of the feelings from us fans and preparing to sort out these problems.

This will be his last season with us, unless he gets us into the top 8, or wins a cup. I hope he gets it right, but I suspect that he won't.