Pardew cools talk of imminent Blues deal for Bolasie

However we need a new centre-mid like Witsel or Schneiderlin, Mata/Draxler on the left, Bony as backup to Lukaku and Begovic as first choice goalie. Saying that I think Witsel's attitude is pretty awful so someone like Strootman or Isco would do.

I would also say I am not against selling Jagielka and making Williams captain. If that happens I think we should try to sign Koulibaly.

We also need to get rid of Niasse, McGeady, and Kone. However, I would keep Cleverley as Besic is now injured and all teams need a utility player.

If he finds a way to play at the top end of his game every week then that price tag will like seem a bargain. Especially after the Niasse fiasco

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"NIASSCO"!

He's a player I've always liked and 'on his day' he can be quite incredible.

We are still lacking guile and craft in midfield though and I don't think Bolasie solves that. Can Mirallas, Barkley or Deulofeu? Even Tom Davies who is as elegant a player you're ever likely to see?

I would love to see Mata.

Also, Aussie viewers may have noticed that Aaron Mooy has made the move to Man City. It's a big step up from the A-League but the lad is an absolute Rolls-Royce. I wonder if he'll cut it, aged 27?

A decent price based on the insane market. Interesting to see how many players we can get on the back of the Stones deal.

I've seen him rip teams to shreds, but I've also seen him be bang average.

To really become a crowd favourite, he would need to add a bit more end product too.

It's certainly got me intrigued has this one! Watch this space .

At least the price has come down from the 30 million we saw last night.

He'd be a good signing but not great. I would love a player who produces on a bad day,but his pace will be dangerous. Not jumping for joy just yet

Keeper and a Number 8 are the signings we should be looking at

Would definitely take a gamble on Ziyech but looks like we won't with signing Bolasie.

Comparisons to Mirallas would be fairer in terms of consistency, ability and impact on matches.

And I agree with you to a certain extent Teddy (25). But for me Mirallas is much better overall (last season removed), except the sulking of course.

Time will tell and I'll be there cheering him on. It's what I do. And I hope to high heaven he proves me wrong and if he does I'll be the first on here saying I was wrong, but at the moment, I just can't see it.

It looks like a lot, but we have new owners and apparently new investment, plus we've just got 㿛.5m for Stones.

٥.5m on Gueye and Stekelenburg.
㾸m on Williams.

I asked for Bony, Mata, Kone, and Ziyech im guessing they should cost around 㿭m all in, added to the fees above puts us up to 䀁m.

That's us all in at 㿑.5m less Hibo's, Pienaar's, and Ossie's wages.

It's not asking a lot IMO.

I truly believe that Koeman knows he can't sign 5 star players just now as we can't offer Europe and there are a lot of teams awash with cash after the TV deal. Get us placed well in December/January and we may just get a decent marque Christmas pressie. COYB...

Surprised that Palace are showing an interest in Niasse. What can they see in a player with the skill and agility of a wheely bin. Or does Pardew think that he can get a tune out of him. I'm baffled by this interest. But let's hope that the loan deal goes through. And as for Pardew getting a tune out of Niasse ...I very much doubt that the Beatles combined with The Rolling Stones with a sprinkling of The Who would get anything there.

Probably because he hasn't even signed yet, let alone set foot on the fucking pitch or clumsily punted a ball in a Private Pyle style.

Seeing a player 'live...several times' (care to quantify the number of games 'several' consists of?) surely isn't enough to be sure of his future status as a spunked down the drain fugazi. Different team, different manager, different stage. You don't even know what his role in the team will be or what attributes have convinced Koeman's he can be of use to the cause.

Maybe he just thinks he's a master of the slightly shocked 'shit, just walked in on me own mum naked' look he's modelling in the picture at the top of the page and wants him to wander about with that on his face all fucking game as a compliment to Lukaku's patented hands clasped over his mouth party piece?

The same two Palace fans have sent me several text messages saying (powerphrasing) how crap he is 'most of the time'. I'm tired with this 'on his day' phrase as he doesn't have many of those. Believe me if you want, but couldn't care less if you don't. I'm happy it's not 30 million (hopefully) as I think this is a waste of money and could be better spent on a goalkeeper or other options on the left wing.

True he hasn't signed, nor do I know his role in the team (I could have a very good educated guess though but we will have to wait and see) but the post you have taken offence to is response to someone else - and you'll see that was a largely cordial discussion. It's my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less.

As for the rest of the crap you're spouting, didn't even waste several seconds of life on it. But there you go. Again, sorry I couldn't quantify how many seconds for you.

And don't forget I also said "And I hope to high heaven he proves me wrong and if he does I'll be the first on here saying I was wrong ..."

Does that explanation work for you?

He's just another inconsistent winger who doesn't score enough goals.

It wouldn't be so bad if he was 21 with plenty of time to develop but he's about 27, in the prime of his career, and he's still just another 'on his day' type player!

And the fees being touted are insulting...but in fairness we just received near £50M for a defender who can't really defend yet!

Personally I think Bolassie will do very well for us. Don't forget he was injured for a large part of the season and was in and out of a poor side.

Not really, but I suppose 'me mates said he's crap most of the time' will serve nicely as an example of this new fangled "powerphrasing".

As will the numerous other posts you've made over the last 24 hours banging on about how Bolasie is such a bad buy along with the frankly fucking boring and off beam 'another McGeady' assertions.

"Powerphrasing": Link

If you don't rate the player, fine. No problem with you saying so, but attempting to pummel the point home by repeatedly injecting said opinion at every opportunity makes your claims of "cheering him on" and hoping "to high heaven" he proves you wrong, ring hollow as as a rebound from another sling of Cap's rusty 'wank' shield. 

"Hang John"? It's clearly not me you're set on stringing up before even being given the benefit of a fair trial (What was it yesterday? Worst signing of the summer?"). In fact, you're so adamant and ahead of the game I expect poor Mrs Bolasie is living in fear that her pre-pregnancy past self is going to get a fucking bang on the door and upon opening it find you kitted out in biker jacket, shades and an Uzi, saying (in a clearly put-on wooden Austrian accent) "Sarah Conner? Sorry, I mean... Yanick Bolasie's yet to be mum? Soz love, me mates didn't tell me your maiden name".

Hopefully this signing with the other new boys will give this team the much needed kick up the arse it needs.

Rumours that Bony could be next, what's the odds that would see Rom on his way?

You ignore the fact I've seen him play? Have you? Do you have friends who watch him many times and give you banter about him? If so. Ditto. If not just bash me and try and fail to be funny instead. You think my posts are boring? You ever had to read your rubbish? You probably think you're funny. I don't. See, different opinion.

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think he's crap. You think I'm wrong. No worries.

And my other posts and things I have said, I stand by. You don't have to agree. But this is my last post on what I think of him. Probably to your delight.

ps: That was a typo that's been rectified.

Let's be honest, yes, he ripped us up a couple of times but over the last 2 seasons we have rolled over for most of the Premier League! Even Sunderland thrashed us on what was Martinez's last game. No, not for me, sorry!

Probably something like 'not for me!' are you kidding? Have you seen him play? Well when Rome was burning did you hear Nero say bla bla bla... And so on and on and on and on and on... *snooze*

1) I pointedly did not ignore the fact you've seen him play (live!). I specifically asked you how often and you answered.

 2) Yes, I can go off on a tangent at any given moment. Don't think that will come as a surprise to anyone on here. It's a simple thing to do, provided you're not singularly focused on pointing out a particular player is 'shite'.

3) As for having 'banter' buddies. No. I can safely say I don't have any friends who would give me 'banter'. I'd even like to think my worst enemies would have enough about them to leaven humorous words with at least a little wit. "Banter"? No one word could invalidate an argument as instantaneously in my book. Could have dropped it in earlier and saved me the bother, like.

I do sincerely hope it works out for us, if he signs. And I really do hope I'm wrong. After all people far more qualified than me seem to like him.

Either way, I'll be watching and cheering.

"Bolasie is immense when he can be bothered but too often recently he can't be bothered."

Let's hope a change of scenery and higher wages (I'm guessing) can make him bothered.

On the two main threads on this, the summary of the comments have been.

- Seriously, has it come to this.
- £30m no way
- £20 is better than £30, guess we have some accountants in our mist.
- He is unplayable on his day - you could take that one of two way he is so crap he should be in the stands, or he is 'world class' as one person wrote.
- we need a defender, goal keeper and not another winger.
- hopefully we can throw Nessi in with him.

I would hardly call this a ToffeeWeb endorsement. At best it's welcome, I've got my eye on you.

However, Koeman expects a huge amount of workrate from his players by all accounts. Maybe this will help in getting more out of Bolaise. Him, plus a hard working Lennon and a Mirallas with a new lease of life might all work well.

Gana is going to add something of that immediately in front of defence and Bolasie higher up the pitch. Bolasies goal return isn't impressive but his assists were if I remember right. If he can make space for Deulofeu, Mirallas or Rom to dart into he's going to be effective.

As to the cost?. The day Jordan fucking Ibe is a £15mn quid player Bolasie could be anything £20mn suddenly doesn't sound as bad!

We need a goalkeeper (I honestly can see us getting Hart if city buy someone else) and another centre mid. If we do get Mata, great but we also need some more bite.

To the naysayers, we are better spending money on guys who know what the premiership is all about and have the right character. Clearly our dressing room is mentally weak and the character he has brought in appear to be strong ones. I am super confident this time next month we will be happier. Not sure we will do well in the Tottenham game though, probably come two weeks too soon.

If the players who can destroy teams "on their day" made that "every day they play" they would not be signing for Everton right now. You wouldn't be paying £18-20M for them either. They would have Man City, Utd, Chelsea battering their door down for £60, 70, 80M. I've seen this guy destroy teams "on his day" single handedly, including us and the RS and right now we have no-one in our team who can do that. Not Deulofeu, not Mirallas, neither of them for a long, long time (err not McGeady ever). On this basis he is an upgrade for us which is what we need.

What it comes down to is whether or not you think Ronald Koeman can get more consistency out of a player than Alan Pardew: a manager for whom the phrase "on his day" could have been created. The occasional good patch or the odd game in a season but you just know he will go through a prolonged horrible spell which is far longer.

I'll take a destroyer "on his day" plus Koeman right now.

Put a smile on your face, you sour, negative man.

Put a lightbulb above your head when you can read and understand, you comprehensionally challenged man.

I smile all day and I'm pleased with Everton's business over the past few days. My post was putting the doomsayers in perspective. We won't be signing Ronaldo or Messi which seems to be the expectation of some here who are knocking this.

Try and keep up.

Howard - - - ? (Stekelenburg is no.2; we still need our no.1 keeper)
Osman - - - Idrissa Gueye
Pienaar - - - ?
Hibbo - - - ?
Stones - - - Ashley Williams
Niasse (surely) - - - ?
Lukaku (if) - - - ?

In summary, we need another 5 signings (4 if Rom stays) which are 1 keeper, 1 right back, 1 left winger, 1 or 2 strikers.

COYB!

All I can assume is that they are holding on for Tim Krul to get fit again to sign him. Doesn't make sense otherwise for not having moved for somebody yet.

He gets hammered on here, but I'm a huge fan of Begovic, but i'd be happy with a fit Krul.

He offers us something that our other wingers don't have – he has size, and power along with pace.

Now we need another striker to give Rom some competition, as I for one, don't want to pin my hopes on Kone getting us a goal.

Koeman's had a look at them preseason and this signing tells me what he thinks. And I agree with him, he's better than what we have.

Koeman's been brought in to rebuild the team. That means buying and getting the best out of players who are good on their day (Bolasie) and finding the odd cheap gem (Gueye). The superstar players won't come until it's clear he's building something special.

The best managers look at players first hand, then decide what they're going to do. Ultimately it's about what we do on the pitch. I'm happy with what he's doing so far.

The last time I recall he even looked like he was going to get me on my feet was only for a few minutes before he was viciously and deliberately taken out of the game by that snide Suarez. Without subsequent punishment obviously.

Kevin has developed even more of a bad habit of throwing himself to the ground and waving his arms when things aren't going his way in recent seasons, which is a real shame for me given his talent.

Yes, Bolasie is unpredictable but also a game-changer on his day. Let's be fair, Mirallas and Deulofeu very rarely last a full game so they're going to have to work to get in the side ahead of him.

We've got to trust Koeman. He's obviously thought the spine isn't strong enough. Now for a dynamic centre midfielder and a striker to replace the miserable fucker up front and it's happy days!

Think Bolasie will certainly serve a function and is a much more physical option than Mirallas or Deulofeu. Few right backs will relish a game against him. £20m seems more palatable than £30m (i know its not my money!). It would appear there is a plan to buy strong, athletic players who have performed well in the premier league over the last year or so and that seems a sensible plan. Bolasie would not be my pick but i'll trust RK/Walsh on this one.

Why are we so obsessed with signing 21-year-olds only? If they reach their potential, then we flip them for profits?

Get the best players at their prime is the way to go.

I see us with three centre backs, two wing backs in Coleman and Baines. Gueye and Barry in midfield with Barkley/Mirallas, Lukaku and Bolasie up front. Subs G/K, Cleverley, Deulofeu, McCarthy, Holgate, Lennon and Davies.

I want a younger midfield player than Mata. Someone like Draxler or Ziyech.

Hopefully there will be at least 3-4 new faces in the team to face spurs so that'll be a sizeable chunk who have not been 'Martinezed'. If we could wrap up Bony and Kone this week, then that would be potentially 6 out of the first team who are new. Obviously it'll take a bit of time for them to gel but at least the spine of the team will be a lot more solid.

Big KO just 2 days away, if we sign anyone today would they be registered in time for Spurs?

Tbh I've never heard of Ziyech or Ghezzal but I don't watch that much footy outside of Everton. I do note Ghezzal has played circa 60 Ligue 1 games, which for a 24 yr old does not seem a lot. Is he a late bloomer?

I expect Kone will come in at well below the £18m mark if it happens.

That is what Ranieri did and that is what I understand that Koeman did at Southampton. Martinez sucked the life out of the team last year, we clearly have decent players, if Koeman can get them playing in their best positions, working effectively together, then we have a chance.

This is it boys.

If we were to go with a lesser name who would be prepared to sweat for the shirt and fight his way into the team then yes that could be accommodated. This would also be a cheaper option.

Ziyech maybe would fit the bill better.

Carrying on the theme of the Machiavellian strategies of transfer dealing, I wonder whether we discuss/publicise big fees to get the opportunity to speak to (read tap up with a big contract offer) other clubs' players prior to reaching formal agreement ergo strengthening our bargaining position when the player demands to leave the selling club.

By extension I wonder if we have done something along those lines with Kone (and even Witsel), offering the players highly lucrative contracts, and the selling clubs are digging their heels in at the lower offer we are actually tabling now we are leveraging player interest in leaving.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the war rooms.

You can stick a Cleverley, Osman type player out there and they'll keep the ball better but they're not going to effect the game as much.

I look forward to seeing his unplayable games and when it's not working, we change it.

Now let's get Mata in to ensure these players get the ball.

I suppose it just goes to show that we are all sideline experts when these decisions need making - but thank god we don't have to actually make them!

( Would be happy to get it badly wrong for a while though on those pay levels ).

I happen to think he is a good buy and in any case am prepared to back RK's judgement based on his track record - thumbs up from me! Time will tell.

After all this, wouldn't it be funny if we don't even sign him?

We would then see the best of Lukaku if he stays, as he would start to make the runs again that he used to make before he got fed up with not getting the correct pass, and the runs he made last season when Gerry was putting in those excellent passes. The price is not his fault. He will justify it I have no doubt.

He ain't a bad player, and 'on his day' can really tear it up. But he is just a bit, meh. Liverpool have signed in numerous players of his caliber. In that, 'yeah he's good but just a but...' bracket.

Hopefully Koeman knows what he wants from him and how he'll fit into the system he wants.

I am not one for player manager, I thing if I don't rate him but koeman does the do it, end of the day all I won was goal of the season against tramways on scotty road in 1993

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Not only do I think this should be considered breaking news, but our mate Brian should be given the anchor at SSN.

Sadly, Brian wouldn't get the job though,

he obviously likes the truth.

He's on about getting a real winger and keeping him there.

You could say a plaice for everything and everything in it's plaice .

taxi for me .

Alan, one hundred and whatever,

could you edit your post with sha la la la lee at the end of it please,

there's a good chap ;-)