Koeman: We will bring in what we need

Another flair player in the mould of Mahrez could be a Walsh gem!

Not going to last forever – Baines, Jagielka, Barry.

On the endangered list – Robles, Oviedo, Gibson, Niasse, McGeady, McCarthy, Besic, Kone, Garbutt.

Ouch.

Gibson and Kone will surely go, the latter maybe dependent on if another striker is added.

Expected another signing this week, so surprised only Bolasie has joined.

So much to be feeling positive about right now. I also believe that we will have a surprise signing that will have us all a little bit giddy before the window closes. Happy days!

He's getting rid of the Martinez mistakes, and imposing his iron will into the club... it's getting interesting.

I just hope that if BK is organising the inward transfers that he gets the targets RK has identified. I don't think RK would take kindly if his targets are not landed.

"We're not fit"
"If he likes to play football"

Long may it continue!
Hopefully the results will follow.

I missed Cleverly too. In fact I'd offer Moyes him and Gibson or McCarthy in a swap deal for Kone.

Mind you, 5000-1 was nowhere to be had and I finally settled on the 150-1 on offer at Ladbrokes. Most bookies make Everton ninth favourites for the title (near neighbours surprisingly fourth favs at 7s!)

For the record, the odds against the most favoured clubs winning the title are: Man City 2-1, Man Utd 3-1, Chelsea 5-1, Liverpool 7-1, Arsenal 9-1, Spurs 14-1, Leicester 66-1, West Ham 100-1, Everton 150-1, 200-1 Bar.

Place your bets!

Still need a squad but hopefully his words give a hope to Unsworth's kids.

Personally, I think Gibson might stay for a bit, at least. He still might be the best passer at the club! He's just got to get fit and stay fit before we bring someone in who can match his range or improve on it.

I hate that type of situation but it may be that is how it will be.

I love the way RK is so straight and doesn't fluff it up at all!!!!

TW - Aug 2017: (if things don't go well) "Well they can't play can they, not when he's got them all shit scared. He doesn't know when to put an arm around them or give them encouragement. How can they express themselves when their bottle's going? I mean at least the other feller..."

I love the no-nonsense interview...what an antidote to Bobby Bullshit. Niasse! Comedy Gold!

Might not look like it to us, but these pics of Ron and their kid and their 'oul feller, taken in Holland, show they love a good laugh.

Link

The height of Euro fashion.

He is a born winner, not sure about his managerial career before Southampton, but what he done on the south coast was amazing. Losing his best players for mega money and still putting a team together which done so well in both seasons.

Just hope he can turn us around because the last 2 seasons have been painful.

First half of last season I thought we done quite well with scoring goals but we always knew Martinez would fuck are solid defence up eventually.
One of the only things I liked about David Moyes was the way we defended.

In Koeman We Trust.

By the sounds of it there's likely a couple of other players (Kone & Gibson) that will be surplus to requirements if replacements are brought in before the end of the window.

I noticed how RK was getting the hump with the same questions regarding rumoured targets, which is exactly how it should be.

I'll tell you what, we need a couple of strikers and fast. Where on earth are they??? Sort it Ron.

Fantastic!

Stick £5 each way on Everton to win either cup, if they get to a final you can then pay a bit over the odds from your winnings for a ticket and not feel hard done by, if they don't get there, no need to worry about a ticket.

Come on guys... we've seen it all before. Just because Koeman is the opposite to Martinez doesn't mean he's brilliant.

Having said that I am as excited as a kitten about the new season – mainly because of Moshiri. Things are different this time. He got Koeman in. He got Walsh in. If Koeman does not perform he will be out and another top manager will come in. Stadium no longer just a pipe dream. We are in a whole new world.

Ces't la vie!

Might be. !!

Mmmmm seemed to take a long time to go after him don't you think. Did you consider perhaps they had someone else lined up a while ago, long before they sacked Martinez but couldnt get him or do you believe they only considered it at the Norwich game and then took an age to suddenly decide Koeman was number 1 and go after him? Like Monchi and we got Walsh.

Things are different. Moshiri gets the job done like signing only a reserve Fulham goalkeeper and defensive midfielder from a relegated side with less than a week to go to kick off. Do you think perhaps he expected more and sooner?

Do you think everybody wanted £50m (inc add ons) for Stones when Sterling went for £49m last season and we turned down £40m last season and premiership now awash with cash? Do you think they wanted him to even go?

I think like people getting carried away with Martinez's positivity as opposed to dour when he arrived, just look at things with Koeman and Moshiri objectively. Moshiri is not the Messiah unfortunately.

I'm very optimistic and really like Moshiri and Koeman. However, the competition is strong, lots of money also getting pissed up the wall everywhere (us Niasse), Moshiri is not stupid and will not have an open chequebook for us.

It's going to take years to rebuild the club.

No need.

Things are now different to the Kenwright era...but I agree we don't have the money of a Chelsea or a City, and in relative terms owners money now carries less weight because of all the TV money pouring in.

So we won't be competing for the league (at least not on an equal footing) with the top clubs. But we have moved a couple of steps up the ladder. That's enough excitement for now!

I think it is a good job the RM has got an international job, because I would worry that the farce of the Boselli (7m record signing and was awful) transfer at Wigan and the Niasse one at Everton (not to mention the astronomical salary paid to McGeady) will follow him around for a long time.

He's already made the point previously. To repeatedly make it in a demeaning fashion is not necessary.

To generalise the Dutch as ignorant, is well ignorant.

Obviously as Koeman is working in the UK it would be wise for him to tone it down a bit. But I've seen him do far worse in Dutch media. This is the toned down version of Koeman. He can really rip a player to pieces if he wants. Koeman doesn't feel this is a "demeaning fashion".

Just for fun, I'll post this again, differences between what an Englishman says and what a Dutchman hears:

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That clown we had would have been saying Niasse and McGeady are still valuable players of this squad.

I have no problem with the manager noticing or telling anyone, and don't feel sorry for Niasse at all. He's making a decent living out of being shit at football as far as I can tell.

Niasse is tall. Niasse is strong. Niasse is terrible at football.

Koeman said: “If he likes to play football then he needs to leave Everton.”

He didn't say- well he's got two left feet and couldn't score in a brothel or anything demeaning. You are being over-sensitive IMO

On another note, I wonder does RK not rate Mori so highly or why is he so keen to take in another CH. Could it just be because we are lacking CHs that are good in the air and he sees that as why we conceded so many goals from set plays last year.

No.

I would add however (as a general point) that being 'honest' and 'telling it like it is' are (certainly in practice) often two very different things.

Farage and Trump are lauded by their idiot supporters for their ability to 'tell it like it is' and it is patently obvious that both are dishonest in the extreme and make up (dumb) shite every time they open their self-serving grids.

Their supporters would no doubt also describe both as 'straight talkers' and men who don't 'beat around the bush.'

One man's perceived 'lack of class' is my pragmatic, telling it like it is, It may be verging on not calling a spade a spade but a fuckin shovel.

Blowing smoke up collective arseholes for the last 3 seasons really worked didn't it?

So he hinted there are 2 maybe more on whom that cap fits like it was made to made to measure...big deal.

Koeman can upset all 'The Gold Bentley Precious Princesses' he likes.

Also all the Interweb milque-toasts; the collective media and Uncle Tom Cobbley and all. He can keep telling it like it is all the way to the CL final and beyond if that's what it takes.

Didn't hinder one B. Clough...not one bit.

Martinez, Moyes... their pressers only grated when they weren't moving us forward.

I honestly couldn't care less what Ron says.

My bet is that with Hart on board and 2-4 more crucial signings we have a chance to get into Europe, and with this players such as Hart and Lukaku will want to stay.

Guardiola has told Hart there is no future here, he is paid to make those decisions. Klopp did the same with Benteke, thats what managers are paid to do. Not massage already over inflated egos but to make decisions that they believe will improve the club, only hindsight will tell if their decisions were right or wrong.

He is saying it how it is. In recent times it has been very difficult for clubs to move players on. Some players are too keen to hang around and get paid. RK is in a hurry to get "his" squad. RK is using the media to tell the world he doesn't want these players.

Move to another club, where you are wanted. Move on and further your career rather than stall your career here.

When a new manager comes in things change. Your point of view may be that the club have given "X" a contract and now they don't want to fulfil that contract. I see it that the player was given the contract on the basis that the previous manager awarded it. The new manager doesn't feel that the player fits into his set up. So it is better (for all parties) that the player moves on.

RK's comments could be seen as letting other club's know that these two players are available.

'Twas ever thus.

To my mind every ambitious club needs 3-4 goal scoring strikers. We have 1

Even if we get the 2-3 strikers that we need, they will need time to bed in and adjust. Obviously making multi million £ purchases isn't straight forward and comes with challenges BUT we seem to be taking ages over an area of the pitch that OBVIOUSLY requires reinforcement

Keep the faith.

Erik Dols' post and link is spot on.

Absolutely.

Barry (88) - 'He is saying it how it is. In recent times it has been very difficult for clubs to move players on. Some players are too keen to hang around and get paid. RK is in a hurry to get "his" squad. RK is using the media to tell the world he doesn't want these players.'

As you like people who tell it 'how it is', presumably you won't have a problem if Niasse says (nb: this is a Winston Bogarde quote from 2004) 'This world is about money, so when you are offered those millions you take them. Few people will ever earn so many. I am one of the few fortunates who do. I may be one of the worst buys in the history of the Premiership but I don't care.'

Didn't think so.

Hopefully Niasse is moved on, but right now, he is entitled to think (as many would) 'I'm only moving for the same or more money...specially as that fat blonde Dutch grock has been giving it the big'un in the papers and making me look a twat."

RK's remarks may bee seen to be blunt to the point of brutality, but, what truly is going on behind the scenes.

Just suppose we have arranged loan / transfer deals for Niasse who in turn has said, "I don't want to go anywhere and I am not leaving Everton before my contract expires, I am her to prove my worth".

RK has said, "You have no future at Everton, I don't want you and I won't play you."

Niasse has replied, "I am her to play football for Everton".

To underline the impasse, in his latest press conference RK has said "If he likes to play football, he needs to leave Everton". That is a pretty stark and blunt message to Niasse. There is no room for you here, you are not getting any game time here, at any level, so if you want, as you claim, to play football, take on one of the moves we have negotiated for you".
That having been said publicly, on Worldwide TV, Niasse, or his agents cannot now come back and say , "We were mislead", or, "Koeman promised us . and it never happened".

This statement scotches all those types of scenarios.

It clearly says, " He has no future, here, I don't want him here and I have told him so".

Harsh, brutal, but honest - at least the guy knows where he stands as far as Koeman and Everton are concerned.

Kone has rejected the contract, expect him to arrive in the coming days.

Guardiola has openly admitted Hart is available, that could take another 10 days to complete however imo.

Those 2 would mean our backline being seriously improved on last season.

A coleman back up is still a necessity I feel. Not so much in the 3-4-3 formation, but to have the flexibility to play 4 at the back when needed.

Another striker/forward and a creative midfielder too.

So 4 more.

I did hear from a good source that he and his agent Willie McKay were down her the other week.

When you look up Lamine Kone on Wiki, it sounds like he's had a complicated transfer before. When he moved from Lorient (France) to Sunderland this is what they said on wiki.
This followed a protracted transfer saga that had previously broken down twice and had seen Lorient threaten Sunderland with legal action for initially pulling out of a deal.
I hope he's worth all this trouble. haha

Way, way too much money for the quintessential overrated English player.

Don't believe the hype.

I am, by the way, an expert in the nuances of such behaviour. My mother in law, mistakenly, believes that she is respected for her blunt, tell it as it is attitude. The reality is that she is an ignorant, rude sow.

I would love to see us sign one of the following to provide assists and entertain.

Ziyech, Adrien Silva or Marcelo Brozovic.

All of these three are specialist playmakers who can dribble and control the football! We have been starved for this sort of player for years!

Often when you consider the situation of a player you do tend to think "what would I do?". I'd like to think, given that I'd not have a mortgage or other financial issues I would move on. I'd probably go to Hull or wherever and think "I'll show that Dutch bastard". In Niasses' case; then score twice in 33 games but you know the thought was there .

For the record I don't necessarily like people who tell it how it is but I do feel that players, especially in the PL, have too much power and say. They are vastly overpaid. And part of that "inflated salary" is so that a club/manager can change their mind and put you them for transfer.

I don't wish him ill, in fact the opposite is true. I hope he goes back to Russia and scores 25 goals and we get a big transfer fee for him next summer!

Agreed, that would be a result for everyone, but in the meantime, anything with even a hint of 'fuckin' do one lad' could end up biting us on the arse Bogarde-style.

Remember, Niasse didn't scout himself, Everton (reputedly) did. And he didn't buy himself, Everton did. And he didn't hand himself a daft contract, Everton did.

So if we want rid, I suggest a more subtle approach might work better than telling the world/press 'if he wants to play football, he should leave.'

By the way, I have no problem with anyone who tells it like it actually is, in fact i'm very much in favour of it.

My problem is when 'he tells it like it is' simply means 'he tells it like I think it is.'

Big fucking difference and recently, I'm hearing it a lot.

"I'm going to build a wall and the Mexicans will pay for it" is tiny handed slap-head Trump telling it 'like it is', this despite Former Mexican president Vincente Fox saying “I'm not going to pay for that fucking wall." (my kind of president Vinny)

And remember "350m a week going to Europe will go to the NHS" was lizard-face Nige telling it 'like it is' only for the morning after Brexit to be saying "ah..yes..now..no..that won't happen"

The main problem with many who 'tell it like it is', is that..well, remember Spencer Tracy calmly explaining things to Ernest Borgnine in the classic film Bad Day At Black Rock?

"You're not only wrong, you're wrong at the top of your voice."