Everton walk away from Gabbiadini deal

I still think and hope we will have maybe three coming in. We need a keeper, right back and a striker at least. I don't think we are desperate for a centre half with the form of Holgate.

Koeman himself had said it will take two years to build the squad that he wants; which means no panic buys and no quick fixes, like aging stars.

Sounds like a good plan to me whilst the stadium bubbles over in the background.

And well done to those claiming we are crap at transfers and that this could only happen at Everton. It takes a special kind of person to believe that. Just watch on deadline day – that we won't be the only ones conducting business should give you a clue as to whether your point has any credibility.

Every club is in the same boat. You just don't care about the others.

All clubs are linked with a multitude of players and business takes a long time as agents will look at a number of clubs to get the best deal and unless there is CL football on offer a player has to decide whether he fancies an English club outside of London in the middle of winter or does he hold out for a move to Spain, Italy etc, where does his wife want to live, where do they want to educate their kids – so many factors which we fans tend to overlook.

Oh, and as far as our past transfer business is concerned, Kenwright has a good reputation in football circles as a negotiator and has done some excellent deals for us in the past with some very skilfully constructed deals, so give the man a bit of credit.

Why?

Why should a company reveal their commercial arrangements and then potentially disadvantage themselves in dealings just because you want to know? I prefer that the club keep other clubs and scum of the earth agents in the dark as much as possible around extent of finances in order to get the best possible deal, even though I would like to know just as much as any fan.

We have successfully transferred players in already this summer, with minimal fuss. Some of the players we're linked with have never actually been on the cards for various reasons: player didn't want to move, club unwilling to sell etc..

Then there's the players we are linked with but Koeman & Walsh haven't actually the slightest interest in. It's all paper talk.

We are not shite at transfers. Every Club has their ups and downs. We are hypersensitive to the downs and some people never celebrate the ups.

Keep calm and carry on, take all reports with a pinch of salt, and don't believe anything until Everton FC release official announcements. We've already made four good signings, and the future is bright.

Don't you know that we're incompetent, cursed, hated by Sky and the FA and desperately, desperately unlucky?

I for one think we have done decent business so far and already look an improved team after just 4 games. Yes, we need more signings... as do other clubs. I feel it is a myth that we do things differently from other clubs, a huge list of factors (already outlined by posters on here) have to be considered and most clubs do a lot of business on the last day of the transfer window! There is a reason/reasons for that! Whatever your opinion on Kenwright, he has done decent business in the past and many posters just use it as a stick to beat him with I feel.

As for the figure of £100 million, I would like to see an official source state this. It could be more or less, but why show your hand to all the competitors? Do we need to splash all of it in one go to satisfy the needs of fans on panic signings? Signings that would be turned on if they flop, à la Niasse!

A complete overhaul would result in a longer period of gelling for the players, so far the management team seem to be doing fine with this!

I don't see the need to spend for spend's sake and I have a lot of faith in Koeman and Walsh.

Some on here still believe Desperate Dan really ate those cow pies!

I think it's been a good transfer window so far but I really hope they bring in some sort of striker otherwise goals could be a real problem this campaign should Rom get injured or not come back into form.

Next you'll be telling us Santa Claus doesn't exist... jeez!!

I hate deadline day. It's the equivalent of sitting in your staff canteen for 59 minutes of your lunch hour, then as Brenda and Pauline start to close the kitchen down , making a mad dash for the counter screaming: "Waaaaaaiit, I will give you fifty three quid for that pot noodle!!!"

So much blatant common sense in one post. Quite made me forget which site I was on for a minute!

I'm glad so many appear happy that we're going into a season without even a second choice striker – never mind 3rd or 4th – probably a first choice goalkeeper (yes Stek has started well, so let's see); the cover required at right back; and the fourth centre-back Koeman wants. Never mind the attacking midfielder we've needed since Kenwright sold Arteta.

Koeman isn't happy with it, but as long as you are, it's all good.

Brahimi, Slimani & Bruno Martins Indi. Right quality & right price.

Martins Indi is training on his own as he does not figure in his club's plans... Wonder why?

No need to put a hard hat on for me – he could be the perfect foil for Lukaku. It would mean that Lukaku did not have to move at all – he could just stand on the edge of the D and rotate, pointing to where he feels Berahino should be!!!!

Seriously, it might work really well if the price is right.

So in his early start in his new position the manager has brought in his own backroom staff,assessed the players he wants, sold a player who did not want to stay, and with the money has brought in 4 players who look as though they will be automatically first team players. He along with every other manager in the league wants to bring in a couple more players, and this starts the normal media frenzy where we are supposed to be signing at least another 12 players before the window shuts.

Even if we do not sign anyone else (and I think we may get one or two more), in just a couple of months we have gone from turmoil to financial stability, a realistic opportunity for a new ground, and a manager who has a plan that seems to be successful in modern football.

I think we should not forced into paying exorbitant fees for players at the end of transfer windows but see how we are in January's window to strengthen the team. We as supporters have our own views as where the team need strengthening, but I believe we have a manager who is better situated to make those decisions.

As his 4 previous signings have shown this manager has firmly shown the type of players he wants, and the only ones I get excited about, are the ones with an Everton shirt on in a official photo, and not one mentioned in a media frenzy.

And now it seems we've pulled out of the Gabbiadini deal. Stinks to high heaven of him.

Secondly, surely Moshiri won't allow Bill to twat about in the manner he has in the past? The club seems to be heading in the right direction.

Who really knows what is going on? We're just not privy unfortunately.

We still need a striker though!

Need GK, RB, CB and a striker MINIMUM. If we start to get some injuries, we are on our arse.

In the end, I wouldn't be surprised if we actually bag a profit from the Stones deal. Extremely underwhelming after the promise of major investment.

That's the problem though, it SEEMS to be heading in the right direction, yet we haven't got a shred of evidence to believe that anything has really changed at the club.

Once more, at an important time of the transfer window, we are all informed by a politicians' cryptic message that implies a possible new ground location – nothing tangible, nothing concrete and nothing from the club.

We are also told by Jim "I do Everton FC presentation nights, me" White that Mr Moshiri has sent him a text saying "Watch this space!"

There has been so much speculation in the press, and amongst the supporters, but so far we have only spent mostly what we have recouped and nothing about the ground move has been mooted by the club. Same old same old – or are we all being over sensitive and cynical after two decades of disappointment?

We have left a lot of business too late and we need back-up players in key positions. It just reeks of the sell-to-buy penny-pinching tight-arsed mentality of old.

However ,clearly something needs to change in the way we do our transfer negotiations. Nearly every deal we get involved in becomes complicated. We can't even sign a third-choice full-back from Southampton without a week-long delay, for god's sake!

IF that's correct, he can't be regarded as the answer to our scoring requirements if Lukaku is unavailable. And he's not getting a start at WBA either. Seems like another Odemwingie to me, a disruptive influence in the dressing room.

It is all looking quite positive to me. And even though the fat lady is at this very moment clearing her tonsils, I think that something interesting will happen in the transfer market before the close.

Following that, we have been ducking and diving and looking for bargain deals. I am not surprised one bit and I do not think we will get anyone else in and I don't see anyone leaving.

January may be different but I do feel far happier with the new recruits, happy to have Walsh and Koeman at the helm and I am so happy that Martinez has gone.

The talk of a new stadium is far more important. Without that we will stagnate and so I'm not too concerned if nobody comes in.

I gave up on Kone as soon as Moyes arrrived at Sunderland, never wanted Hart and as for Gabberdene Mack and Witsel – they never seemed right to me. I think the squad is better than last season and the manager is pure class. Things are on the up!!!

We get what we deserve by hanging on until the end of the window. Some people never learn and our board are some people unfortunately. Slimani will be at Leicester and they already have two of the leagues best scoring forwards in Vardy and Mahrez. That is what really ambitious clubs do, they buy when they are already top. So far with under two days to go we have spent nowt!!

We missed out on three top play makers. Gabbiadini was our second or third choice striker. We have waited for Napoli to make Gabbiadini available for much too long.

This will end with yet another winter of discontent unless the cavalry arrive tomorrow and bring in three secret weapons that the media have missed! Shame about Brahimi he is a real crowd pleaser.

If we are going to get a keeper, then it has to be someone like Butland.

I wouldn't have thought him going back to Africa on holiday would put a halt to proceedings given he's agreed personal terms and (I think) had a medical previously. If you said his agent was on holiday I would tend to agree.

Arguably, the fact (I'm relying on your network here.. know how some posters get about the 'facts') he has gone on holiday could allude to him being considered as good as gone by David Moyes.

..Ever the optimist.

Ernie 11

I didn't say it would be as part of the Gabbiadini deal but your point is well made.

Of course people have their own views as to where we are. For me, I think we need a striker. That is it. I don't think we can chance getting through to January without one. Tom what I know about the game, Bony seems a good fit. I ain't going to embarrass myself though by pretending I know better than Walsh and Koeman by listing a load of players.

I am not convinced we now need a right-back with the emergence of Holgate. I am not totally convinced we 'need' another centre back with three senior choices and Holgate either. Obviously if the right player is available, go for it.

Either way, let's get away from the slagging off of the board or the desire for instant gratification that is seemingly becoming the norm.

To the people moaning about us always messing up transfers... Stekelenburg, Williams, Gueye, Bolasie ...there's four done and dusted with no real drama. If you don't get the player you want for whatever reason what manager in his right mind will spend loads on someone just to please the fans.

Let's see what happens!

(I never get sick of prefixing Everton with 'Moneybags'.. I cram it in there in even the most tenuous of circumstances – try it on.. Looking forward to referring to myself as a glory-hunting Evertonian within the decade.)

Last season our main struggles where at goalkeeper, that has been addressed. CB which has partially been improved but with questions over Jags fitness and Funes Mori being erratic we still need another CB. No one to replace Barkley and Lukaku when there form dropped off a cliff towards the end of last season.

Currently, we have three injuries in our 25-man squad: Coleman, Besic and McCarthy – (five if you include Pennington and Connolly) yet we've started the season rather well and the new manger is so, so, so much better than the last fella at doing everything he should be doing to get the team playing well.

Injuries are part of the game; the squad is never without one or two injured players – the average is probably more like four or five. Coping with injuries is part of football.

We've been linked with so many players this summer it makes your head spin. But in actuality the ones we have bought have been straight forward English club to English club moves. No middlemen, obstinate owners, greedy agents

There's a lesson here. Until we have raised our profile in Europe considerably I don't see any point in chasing after players who are simply looking for pay rises at their current clubs or moves to CL clubs and stringing us along until they get them.

We need competition for Rom? Buy Bony and move on.

Anyway, its not all about blowing large amounts of cash to get value. Stekelenburg and Gueye have shown that. Stekelenburg was superb once more against Stoke and I am convinced more than ever that Hart would have only been an incremental improvement at best and maybe not even that. What a change to see our keeper winning (and catching) virtually every cross into the box.

We have decent/good cover in GK (not ideal, but we know Robles will do a job), RB (now Holgate has come to the fore), LB, CB (Jags, Funes Mori, Williams plus Holgate is enough for me at this stage), Def Mid and the Wings, in my opinion.

It's also very frustrating that we have spent very little money to date out of our own pocket – we still appear to be in a sell to buy situation, if the Stones transfer is anything to go by.

I'm personally not confident right now because I have seen very little evidence we have money to spend, it's all been rumours and not much else.

But we'll see. Everything crossed, hope is just about still alive. Just.

Anyway, it's a moot point as Hull confirmed the signing today :-(

I would take Butland, yes. The Hart shenanigans is ridiculous. Way too expensive. £7m for a years loan indeed go do one.

Whether he is any good or not is a different manner

Chasing Italian clubs is another matter though, they are notoriously difficult to deal with. Koeman does seem to like his Italian strikers though.

Groundhog day this.

I was speaking about the front line. Let's say Lukaku and Bolasie went down injured with hamstrings or ankle ligament damage. Where is the depth? We'd have Kone up top, Mirallas and Lennon and Barkley in the starting 11, then what? Who is coming off the bench, rotating in?

Seems like we will have to keep it for a rainy day

I also agree with your take on the transfers to date. We focus on our own transfer sagas and get frustrated because it is our club. It also happens elsewhere. Just because a player is linked to us by the press or agents, doesn't mean we are interested in them. Joe Hart is a perfect example. I have faith in Keoman and Walsh to do the business if at all possible. We do need additions incuding another striker. But if other clubs won't sell their players (Kone and Sunderland as an example) we shouldn't go throwing silly money at lesser alternatives just for the sake of it. Nor should we be held to ransom for players whose goal scoring records are frankly not that impressive.

Lets be honest, Everton are a pain to do business with because of that penny pinching old tart who's been running his own show the past 15+ years and even now INCREDIBLY EFC transfer dealings. How many times do we need to be lied to? DD approaches

I have never heard of Gabbiadini though can recall Derby having one by the same name a couple of decades ago. I have not heard of a lot of the players we have been linked with and am happy for Ron and Steve to guide us as they are handsomely rewarded for doing so.

I don't want us to waste money on buying for the sake of it – eg, Niasse – and I don't buy into the "blame it all on Kenwright" approach either as this is complete crap. Due to my work I know something about how transfers work and there is such a complex web of stuff to sort that few are straightforward. With agents involved and a press desperate for transfer stories there is an absolute stack of stuff put out there to serve the needs of a player anxious to move or a club anxious to sell and the poor club which is put in the frame as a potential buyer has to take the flak from its fans for not moving the fictitious deal along.

The perfect example is Balotelli and the rumour which has persisted for weeks about him being of interest to us. This guy is surely the laziest, most work shy not to mention disruptive player ever to lace his boots in the Premier League and the press are trying to get us to believe that he is of interest to a manager who is already critical of his current squad for lack of fitness and lack of work rate. This has to be his agent banging the drum to find him a new club and even remind people that he still exists –an extreme example but it's what happens all the time as agents only have two windows a year to make their money so will do everything they can to generate interest.

Believe nothing until the club confirm it and don't be so desperate for a signing that we end up with another Niasse or McGeady. It will all come good but not in the first transfer window of Ron's reign.

Alternatively, "Whats his name and how much?"
"Oumar Niasse, £13.5M"
"Any good?"
"Think so, his agent says he's great"
"Go on then"

I really don't want to see the last scenario again or an Everton as "easy" to negotiate with but it's clear some on here would be delighted if that's how we did our business. Not your money to be responsible with, right? An extra £3M here, £5M there, well it's not even real, is it?

I'm waiting until 11:05 tomorrow night to see what the craic is cos lots happens late on and then I can pass judgement. If nothing happens I'll be at the front of the spleen-venters calling for heads.

We can't go through to next years transfer window with just Lukaku and Kone as our strikers.

No vested interest there is there. Trust him implicitly just like Bill.

Let life unfold because nobody Knows anything.

Ignore the bullshit websites and trust the management till they give reason not to.

Correction, add unless we land 2 or 3 players who are better than we have now, forget top 6.

No player we have been linked with for ages ever materialises. Koeman & Walsh only speak when deal completed. Williams and Gueye talked about for 10 days tops and signed. I expect a couple of surprises tomorrow.

With all the money floating around and players demanding CL, taxes paid etc etc it is extremely difficult to get the right players in not just in ability but also to keep the dressing room harmonious.

That is why I would take Bony, not quite the best but wont disrupt the status quo and will be dependable if selected.

He did not look happy

We almost qualified for the Champions League with Marcus Bent leading the line.

Whatever happens will happen so let's not get carried away with all these ''stories''.

But believe me, it's true!!!

Got a bit of a semi, with Everton's "Up yours" attitude, balls grown at last and no more hanging around for leftovers with a begging cap.

Everton are back.

Usual good sense.

Keep the faith.

Good points Brian (#137) agree totally. I'm impressed with our whole current management team and proud that we conduct ourselves the way we do .. Fills me with pride to be an Evertonian. Long may it continue.

I log onto TW to enjoy the company and thought of my fellow Evertonian said getting excited and anxious about some of the same things I do, there's so much whinging, negativity and unfounded critisicism of the club on here I am genuinely considering not using the site going forward. Maybe I prefer to live in my optimistic naive bubble - I'm not sure but I want to get. excited not depressed.

I doubt Bill Kenwright reads this stuff, and I hope for his sake with all the criticisms he doesn't. I don't think he's in the best of health at the moment and rather than wait til it's too late I'd like to put on record my thanks to him for all that he has done for us during his tenure and will continue to do for us moving forward.

He's run our club exceptionally well with limited resources. I'm much happier being an Evertonian than a magpies fan (for an example) as a result. Long may it continue ..