Koeman would have Depay at Everton

I remember not so long ago when we had Arteta on one wing and Pienaar on the other wing in their prime. I'd love us to sign two consistent players like them.

It's just a pity he wasn't so keen on new signings during the summer. He says the player was on his radar at Southampton, so why wasn't he interested during the window?

I'm starting to have doubts about his ability to do his job, or even his commitment to Everton FC. Actions speak louder than words, but as far as Koeman is concerned, his deeds aren't giving us much to shout about so far.

Honestly, some of you are impossible to please.

Of course, being an outcast at a club doesn't make you a bad player, it could just mean that you don't fit that particular team that you are signed to & may be a better player elsewhere.

However, in the last 15 or so years, we have signed rather a lot of players from Man Utd and, to be frank, the vast majority haven't done much at Everton. Howard was a good signing, Saha scored goals when he was rarely fit, and Neville served us well albeit with limited ability. As for the rest (Gibson, Cleverley, Blomqvist, O'Kane, etc) who have signed in the last 15 years or so, their time with us has been forgettable.

To be honest, I have never felt comfortable with this recent relationship we have developed with Man Utd where we take their cast-offs from them. When I was growing up, they were our rivals, not a club we regularly bought cast-offs from. How times have changed.

After the RS, they are the team I despise the most, with their plastic glory-hunting "fans".

Before anyone fires Kanchelskis or Whiteside at me. These were signed from Man Utd at a time when it wasn't the norm to buy their cast-offs regularly and, in the case of Kanchelskis, you could argue that he wasn't finished at Man Utd, rather fell out with Fergie.

In short, I would like to see this relationship between the two clubs ended.

I enjoy the international breaks for the games, and to hear ToffeeWebbers moaning about them, but, if it gives Koeman a chance to talk endlessly to the media, then I might start moaning myself.

Where did did you hear/see that Phil? Be good to have a link. 'Man Utd fans'? Any idea of the proportion who think this way? I'm sure it's not just a couple of lads online or in a Wigan boozer or a Mediterranean island.

Our priorities are a striker and a support striker / Number 10.

Failing that, go down the leagues... plenty of good footballers out their who haven't had their head turned by over-the-top plaudits.

Perhaps he has grown up a little.

If Koeman didn't like him before but thinks he is worth a try now, I'm willing to take his word for it.

Actually about 30-40% of the squad.

Why? We were absolutely broke and shite and they weren't any worse than some of the dross who were playing for us at the time!

Such is the case now. As long is it is not an over-the-hill Rooney and instead, a young buck, who is promising to prove he was another Dutchman who was 'misinterpreted' at Man Utd and is chomping at the bit... then that will do for me!

Really? Well he can't get a game in an underachieving Man Utd side.

And Mike @ 25, they were playing Luxembourg FGS, not Brazil. Lukaku's scored 2 tonight, against a stronger side, but he's not called world class.

I think he should keep his mouth shut regarding players under contract at other clubs. He mentioned openly that he would like Rooney if there was a possibility we could sign him. Now he has said the same thing over Depay. I can't believe the LMA are not having words with him or, more importantly, why isn't Moshiri saying something.

There is a transfer window opening in a few months... I suggest you have your ducks lined up for then, maybe you need to worry about the form of our current players rather than players under contract at other clubs.

What about skills, awareness, vision, decision making? In other words, what about a playmaker? The last one we had was Mikel Arteta.

"Really? Well he can't get a game in an underachieving Man Utd side."

De Bruyne couldn't get a game in an underachieving Chelsea side. Your point?

What exactly do Mirallas and Deulofeu offer us at the moment? From where I've been sitting, that amounts to a big fat zero so far this season.

I'd take Memphis Depay in a heartbeat. The kid has attitude allegedly, but he also has talent.

Like you, I don't believe Koeman has been the answer to our managerial problems and continues to 'talk the talk' while saying little. I said it from day one when he reneged twice on staying at St Mary's, for the big bucks at Goodison, bought players that aren't good enough, and follows the Martinez habit of poor selecting and subbing mistakes.

Unless we don't put at least 3 or 4 past the Swans this week without reply, my view on his ability to motivate the team will decline further (to Zero).

Rom and Yan have been showing signs of forming a good double act and what is on the sidelines now is questionable, such as Mirallas, Valencia and, dare I say, Kone.

Assuming Big Ron doesn't feel confident just yet of starting any ''young guns'', then Depay may be a good option. Just because a player doesn't light up the eyes of one manager doesn't mean he won't for another.

However, I firmly believe another readymade class midfielder should also be on the radar.

Sad to say after a few months in charge, but I don't see any marked improvement, compared to last season. True, our defence has looked better with Williams compared to Stones, but to keep shoehorning Jagielka in is just ridiculous when the back 4 looked so much better v West Ham (plus Robles kept a clean sheet but was replaced by Stekelenburg, who had made some bad errors in his previous games and is possibly not fully fit).

I really can't see any shape to the side, or understand any tactics he is 'allegedly' employing; the hit-and-miss Bolasie is switched from side to side, and God only knows where Barkley plays. I'm just hoping Koeman suddenly clicks and sees what he's doing wrong and gets us winning games and/or playing meaningful attractive football with motivated and well coached players.. I'm becoming disillusioned after 25+ years of false dawns, so I won't be putting any money on us.

Since you asked, I'd say Depay's potential upside is way higher than either Kev's or Geri's. He brings more pace and strength on the ball, and he's probably a better finisher, since those two could hardly be worse.

His scoring pace with the Dutch national side is the same as Kev's with Belgium, about one in every five. And he's only 22, versus Kev's 29, so he has plenty of time to improve.

I think he's a gamble very much worth taking.

The last game he played for Man Utd, he put about as much effort in as a fourth official in a Europa League game... maybe he would fit right into Koeman's team.

Jose seems to have it in for Smalling; Mata and Depay aren't his first choice, and clearly Jose has got it wrong before... De Bruynne and Lukaku.

Just a thought.

My submission was meant to be about the way Managers seem to sign only their fellow countrymen. It probably doesn't stand any sort of scrutiny but it seemed like Houllier and Benitez over the park filled their teams with French and Spanish respectively. Martinez was rumoured to have good Spanish contacts, Deulofeu. Van Gaal went Dutch at Old Trafford after Moyes tried to buy some of our finest and now Depay to join Stekelenburg.

Gordon Brexit!

Watching Depay last season, I was completely unimpressed with his decision-making. Mind you, Di Maria didn't impress for the same reason while he was with Man Utd.

Ray Roche (#19) has put it well. Put another way: "Remember what we need and don't be deflected from that task just because other players become available, who may be OK but don't fit the strategy" – that is wasting dosh that can be used to pick off the targets.

"I remember not so long ago when we had Arteta on one wing and Pienaar on the other wing in their prime. I'd love us to sign two consistent players like them."

Both of these players were moved on because they were not performing. At Everton they found a new lease on life.

So do Tom Davies et al... I think we have sufficient wingers; I'd rather see the youngsters in the squad get the games they need.

Don't mind if we sign him, don't mind if we don't sign him. There's just one thing... You just know that, if we do sign him, he'll turn out to be the next Drenthe... and, if we don't sign him, he'll turn out to be the next Overmars for another team – to stay with the Dutch analogies.

People may call me small-minded, but to answer your question honestly, YES, I'd take Fellaini. I believe he and Gana would be solid in centre mid.

Fellaini is underestimated IMO, he's the type of player people just like to rip in to simply because of the way he looks, and the tactics he's deployed to use under orders from managers.

Barry is close to the end leaving us without what's better known as an arl arse; Fellaini could fill that void very well.

I'm sure many blues will pull me apart for this, but before you do lads, please try to remember he started week-in & week-out for us when we punched well above our weight. Also look at the fact he plays all the time for Belgium, then have a think before you start typing.

Remember, I'm looking on ability not personality.

Name a midfielder we already have that can match him for all of that ? There isn't one.

Question is: Would he want to come back? I doubt it.

Lots of you are complaining we don't want to be a club signing Man Utd rejects. What you seem to be forgetting is that often the bigger clubs, like Man Utd, Man City and Chelsea, sign the better players out in the market for bigger money and then – if they don't perform like they expected – they loan them out, like Lukaku or Deulofeu, or sell them on.

A lot of players we've got over the years have been like that. Some have worked out; some have not... but I think most do as they become a big fish in a smaller pond and feel a lot more appreciated by the fans. Man Utd seem to have a lot of players at the moment that were great players before they were signed but are now struggling.

Even if we have millions to spend on players from now on, it will still be hard to persuade the top players to come to Everton rather than the top four clubs who are always in the Champions League. Hopefully in 5 years time that will have all changed but for now we are lucky to have a world class striker in our team, even if a lot of people don't like his attitude and think we're better without him.

Sometimes a player responds to a new manager and Koeman seems bent on going for this guy... so, if it is to be, let's hope the gaffer can get the best out of him at Everton.

Fellaini has been playing much better of late but still can't tackle properly but it has to be said – neither can a few at Everton currently.

I agree that we cannot fairly judge Koeman just yet even though there doesn't appear to be any improvement over recent seasons. We shall see if they have the mettle to bounce back big-style against a poor Swansea side after the debacle at the Bridge.

Everton have been looking for a player to bring Lukaku into the game, Play Fellaini as a No 10 and we might have something.

Playing him in midfield chokes the play and slows it down. The fella can bring the ball down and attract players too him; anything flicked on or nudged through would play to Lukaku's strengths.

Would be a good return if used properly.

On a slightly different tact, Koeman's public pronouncements both on Rom and coveting other players smacks of a manager searching for answers quickly. A little desperate, me thinks.

Depay is too greedy, doesn't offer width as his need to be selfish, cut in and shoot, overrides any team ethic he has. So one-dimensional is he that, very quickly, EPL defenders just showed him outside and his output died off. We've seen little of him since then with a suspect attitude not busting a gut to get back in a mediocre United side

Swerve!!!

Man enough to tell the so-called stars what's what and bring them into line. That influence would make all the difference. We also need a striker not a Number 2 striker or a Number 10, an out-and-out striker.