Koeman calls for more commitment ahead of Gunners clash

Monday 12 December 2016  61 Comments  [Jump to last]
Ronald Koeman admits that recent results are evidence of under-performance across the board and says everyone needs to work harder.

His Toffees side go into tomorrow evening's meeting with in-form Arsenal on a hugely disappointing run of just one win in 10 Premier League games, with their latest 3-2 reverse prompting inquests into their dreadful form.

Leading scorer Romelu Lukaku has already voiced his belief that the players need to sort themselves out mentally and stop waiting until they're having to chase the game before starting to play.

Now the manager, while admitting that he himself needs to do more, is demanding yet again that everyone at the club put thoughts of the upcoming January transfer window aside and concentrate on the here-and-now.

“I know most of the opinions,” he said in his pre-match press conference today. “If I am an Evertonian — and I am — I am also disappointed at one win out of 10 because that's not what we need to do. We won't win every game but one in 10 is under-performing by everybody, including me.

"But sometimes this kind of situations you need to understand. It's not an easy answer — fight more, run more. It's also about quality on the ball.

"We have some problem with those kinds of teams," he said of the Watford defeat. "We don't have the physicality to win the battles.

"I was so disappointed because we started well and there was a lot of space to play. That started from the goalkeeper where we played every ball long instead of having good ball possession. Really, at 1-0 up there was enough space to play football and maybe there's a bit of a lack of confidence and belief to choose to best option and [way of playing].

“Of course we need to work behind [closed] doors for the future but the problem is now and if you think too much about January and maybe next season that is not counting this season. We need to resolve the problem now.

“And that's all about the commitment of the players — bring your quality in the team. We have spoken together about how to get a better run of results but you don't have time. Everybody knows the fixtures coming up.

“Every week we have several meetings about this and, of course, it's more normal in a difficult situation. That was good but finally the answer is on the pitch and not between four walls in a meeting room.”  

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Brian Williams
1 Posted 12/12/2016 at 17:38:13
Most sense he's made. Admitted that he's responsible as well as the players.

Even states he's an Evertonian. Anyone else think someone's had a word in his ear?

Michael Lynch
2 Posted 12/12/2016 at 17:44:29
I dunno, I can hear noises but it just sounds like blah blah blah. To be fair, there's nothing he can say really, the talking has to be done on the pitch.

I'm hoping the team can surprise us in the next two games. Six points against the Arse and the Shite and it'll be Merry Christmas everybody and a very Happy New Year!

Two more defeats and it won't just be the turkey getting roasted by the fans.

Patrick Murphy
3 Posted 12/12/2016 at 17:50:55
Just revisited this from David Unsworth following the defeat of Norwich City at Goodison in May.

Unsworth said: "I thought the young lads were terrific. I thought Matty Pennington started the game really well, unfortunately had to come off with a hamstring and it was a case of 'no problem'. Jonjoe Kenny's been playing there all season.

"He's been under-21 captain, I had no hesitation putting him in and he was outstanding as well. Kieran Dowell showed flashes of genius, showed the quality he's been showing all season with the under-21s, and as for Tom Davies, I thought his performance was probably man of the match. For me he was everything we want in an Everton central midfielder."

Unsworth expects whoever the new manager is to utilise the young talent at his disposal.

He said: "That will be the skill of the manager: can he blend top established players with a new generation of unbelievable talent.

"It doesn't matter how old you are, if you watch that performance, you know that Kieran, Tom, Jonjoe and Matty are here to stay and basically you build a team around that."

It's a shame that Ronald has deemed not to use any of those players more often, but he's the boss and its his call.

Kieran Kinsella
4 Posted 12/12/2016 at 17:53:57
Instead of round pegs, square holes why doesn't he accept limitations of the squad. Practice set pieces defending and attacking.

If we can't create from open play then make corners count. It took Joe Royle all of one week to figure that out as a quick fix when he replaced Mike Walker.

Paul Holmes
5 Posted 12/12/2016 at 17:56:14
He tells it as it is; good on him. It's not his fault he has inherited a rubbish squad from Martinez that would have been in a relegation battle last season bar Lukaku's goals. People forget last season's debacles against Leicester, Sunderland, Liverpool etc...

Everton have 2 managers, his brother Erwin Koeman was manager at PSV, so let's face it, they can't both be wrong about the players. We need a re-build because no manager will be able to sort this out until we have different personnel crossing that white line. Bring on the transfer windows ffs!

Andy Meighan
6 Posted 12/12/2016 at 17:57:53
Draws are no good to us now. We'd be better losing to Arsenal and beating Liverpool, rather than say drawing both and everyone saying we've turned a corner.

At the moment, it's all doom and gloom and rightly so given the run were on.

I for one can't see where the next win is coming from and I'm sure I'm not alone thinking that. But, and it's a big 'but' – things can turn around in football quite quickly.

A win tomorrow and it gives us renewed hope for the Derby. A demoralising defeat tomorrow and confidence is going to be rock bottom going into said game.

One thing is certain, the system and shape of the side has to change... otherwise, it'll more of the same. Playing 3 defensive midfielders and a lone striker isn't working and if Koeman can't see that, is he really worth the salary being paid to him?

Paul Tran
7 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:03:24
Thing is, Kieran, it was sorted out at the start of the season. But it's unravelled, either because Koeman's stopped asking them to do it (I doubt it), the players have again forgotten the importance of concentration, or they're not doing it for Koeman and, by extension, us.

Problem with this team is that in the last two and half seasons, they've generally been good in either attack or defence, or poor in both.

Major surgery needed, regardless of the manager's name.

Ian Jones
8 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:06:31
Patrick. I am with you regarding the younger players etc. Would love to see them get a run out but the only thing about that game was that it was against Norwich who had been relegated.

But I am a firm believer that young players need to be seen. If you don't try them, you never know whether they are up to the standard required.

James Hughes
9 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:12:52
The present formation and team clearly doesn't seem to be working, so why are we persisting with it? Ronald bemoans previous regimes for our failings but is changing very little. He is even under-performing Martinez, which is something I didn't think possible.

I anticipated evolution rather than revolution but I did not expect to see the current displays we endure. Come on, Koeman, show me that, as usual, I am wrong!

Liam Reilly
11 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:27:07
Big ask against this Arsenal side. Stopping Ozil and Sanchez will be a feat in itself.

If we go a goal down early on and the heads go down, it won't be pretty.

The team needs some dynamism; for me Davies should start; but won't.

Joe O'Brien
12 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:29:59
More commitment, Ronald! How about more from yourself by watching a few U23 matches and not hot footing it out of Finch Farm bang on time every day.

I'll be very surprised if there's any change tomorrow night. Same formation and the same squad, not a sniff of Davies or Walsh.

I've lost patience with him.

Dermot Byrne
13 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:41:30
The strange thing about Everton for years now is fear and insecurity. We are so prone to drop heads.

Yet equally a win against Arsenal or Liverpool could have an equally disproportionate effect. Consistently? Oh to dream.

John Pierce
14 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:48:00
Communication department deffo in Koeman's ear.

Lad things are turning big style, time for you to say what they need to hear.

Volte face on the youngsters is next in the charm offensive.

Results fella, or performances, or both – they buy you time, Ron, lad. Take heed on the pitch – not in the mircophone, that's where it's at.

Darren Hind
15 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:48:51
"Fight more, run more"

Don't worry guys... Ronnie's got this.

Brian Williams
16 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:48:54
I have to say lads, and I know I may take stick for this, the worst thing you can do is to put the young lads into a struggling team and expect them to turn it around. The damage it can do to them, and their progress, is huge should they come in and really struggle and suffer.

In addition to that, Goodison is so fickle and ready to jump on anyone's back at the moment that the lads' confidence could be shattered should they make a couple of mistakes and have the crowd on their backs.

I've seen the lads mentioned play several times, the most high profile being the Norwich game last season, and despite the fact that they showed well, I have to agree with Koeman that they're not ready. There's a big difference between an end of season dead rubber, and a very difficult physical battle with a top Premier League team (or in our case lately ANY Premier League team).

Feel free to disagree but remember, I love the club as much as you do, so no "You don't know what you're talking about" or worse, if you don't mind. TW is toxic enough, and things are bad enough in general without posters trying to rip the shit out of each other.

Here's to a minor miracle tomorrow night!

Ian Jones
17 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:50:43
Ronald Koeman went through a one win in about 8 games period at Southampton. I think the run was ended with a 4-0 win against Arsenal.

He managed to turn it round there. I have every condidence he can do it with us.

Ray Robinson
18 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:54:28
Did Everton play at the weekend? I just watched the Goals Roundup on BBC local news and Everton didn't even get a mention! Even a Rochdale goal got airplay!

Do the BBC have a total anti-Everton stance? Not that I want to see the goals from the debacle on Saturday again but surely that is so out of order. Talk about our profile being off the radar.

Darren Hind
19 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:55:11
I can't agree, Brian.

Surely it must be worse for Holgate to sit and watch three centre-halves take it in turns to stink the place out, than to get on and develop as a player.

Besides his "dip in form", which only happened in the manager's head anyway, he has proved he can cope.

Ray Robinson
20 Posted 12/12/2016 at 18:56:31
Ian #17, he also lost 6-1 at home to Liverpool in the Capital One Cup and then beat them in the league (3-2, I think), so things can be turned around.
Paul Smith
21 Posted 12/12/2016 at 19:06:36
Brian Williams, stop with the sensible posts will you lad, it might catch on.
Brian Williams
22 Posted 12/12/2016 at 19:10:20
Darren (#19).

Holgate's the exception, sorry for that. He's one that IS ready.

Paul (#21). Cheers, mate. ;-)

Patrick Murphy
23 Posted 12/12/2016 at 19:28:17
The results of Koeman's first 15 fixtures compared to the corresponding fixtures last season, but swapping Burnley and Middlesbrough for Norwich and Aston Villa respectively shows a net gain of four points.

We have 20 points on the board now, so anything over and above a point from the next five games, will show a slight improvement on last season's corresponding fixtures.

Obviously if Everton were to win the next five matches the whole picture alters, as Everton took only 5 points from those relative fixtures during the last campaign, (swapping Hull for Newcastle).

Dermot Byrne
25 Posted 12/12/2016 at 19:42:41
Brian, I agree. Goodison is fickle but that takes us to the old chicken-and-egg argument we have had so often. I agree re youngsters to a point.

I do think say Davies on the bench would be okay. If we are losing badly to Arsenal, he can come on, do his best but not blame himself for a game the starting 11 already lost. And maybe, just maybe he could do well.

Mike Allen
26 Posted 12/12/2016 at 19:56:43
The nature of the game, awash with media money, is the endless interviews, stats that don't actually relate to football, and baffling boys toys to try make the ex-players look like some kind of tactical guru but we all know they are either abject failures or never had the guts to go into management its just meaningless claptrap.

So whatever Mr Koeman or Mr Lukaku have to say is just another lame excuse until the next debacle. Koeman will still be sitting on the bench with his arms folded looking like "I haven't got a fucking clue"; Lukaku will still be waving his arms in appreciation when another good pass has drifted past him. Talk is cheap; just do something to show that you mean it.
Phil Walling
27 Posted 12/12/2016 at 20:00:50
Struggling to be better than Martinez then, Patrick. That smacks of desperation!
Barry Williams
28 Posted 12/12/2016 at 20:03:29
Brian Williams (#16),

I do agree with what you say to a large degree, and not just because we have similar names! However, as you have said, Holgate looks ready and I would argue that Galloway is ready as a left back.

A lot of the goals are coming from crosses not being cut out, I also feel defensively Oviedo was doing a better job than Baines at tackling and cutting out crosses.

So, yes, it isn't ideal to bring a load of youngsters in, but the two I have mentioned (although I know Galloway is on loan), plus some 20/25- minute cameos from the other prospects might just be the tweaks we need.

I won't go too much into changing formations as there have been 100s of decent posts on this, but Holgate with Coleman in-front means an easy switching of formation without changing personnel when required! Just a wee thought!

Patrick Murphy
29 Posted 12/12/2016 at 20:05:34
Desperation from whom Phil? Me? I'm just the messenger mate.
Ricardo Gimpardsle
30 Posted 12/12/2016 at 20:09:20
Why do people want everything yesterday? Give the manager and the club time. We are now one of the monied clubs, but we need time to spend it on the right players.

Man City did not start winning the day after Mansoor arrived.

Minik Hansen
31 Posted 12/12/2016 at 20:09:52
PM #3: Young lads needs to play yes, and I think we're dealing with regulars wanting to play every week and the results can only be good for the youngsters, they must get their chance soon enough surely?
Ian Riley
32 Posted 12/12/2016 at 20:25:49
Only by working our backsides off are we going to get results. I fear goals and more goals in our two games coming up. We have 20 points, half way to safety. Why does anyone think we should be higher in the league than we are? The lack of funding on players and an ageing squad equals trouble. Staying mid table I will take now. If koeman can achieve more then good job done.

Rebuilding job required under koeman or someone else. Koeman is telling it the way it is. Sadly a reality check is required. I like many thought this summer expectations would lead to better things. Sadly a holistic approach is required. Working hard will only get us results.

Kieran Kinsella
33 Posted 12/12/2016 at 20:29:10
Also wondering about Gibson. He played U23 over a month ago to get match fit but never seen since? Injured again? If not, surely he's a better passer than McCarthy or Cleverely if Ross is out of form.

Kone; two months ago, Koeman said his knee was aching but never heard more about it and neither of them are on the injured list. At least he can hold up the ball as an alternative to useless wingers.

Peter Cummings
34 Posted 12/12/2016 at 20:33:21
I think many posters on the site seem to think that until January comes no turn around In form can be expected but unless we attract the right players then, and on current form that isn't likely, we could end up scraping the barrel or end up with mercenaries only interested in big bucks.

Therefore the onus is on both the boardroom and manager to take a long hard look at our 'reserve' talent who would give their eye teeth for the chance to play for the club they love, at ANY price. That, in my opinion, is what is sadly lacking in today's money mad climate where loyalty and love of club is practically non-existent, except for the loyal fans who turn up for every game.

In that respect, Evertonians top my list, especially those who travel thousands of expensive miles only to be bitterly let down time after time. like many expats world wide our loyalty to EFC will never end either, GO BLUES.

Victor Jones
35 Posted 12/12/2016 at 20:36:21
Here we go again. Hoping for a result tomorrow night. But really fearing the worst.. But who knows. We can only hope for some sort of a reaction to that defeat the other day. And that sadly is about all we have to go on. Hope for the best. Hope that something can happen. Maybe Arsenal will have an off night.

As for our youngsters. Surely Holgate is ready. When did he let the team down. I cannot recall him ever having a poor game. Well not anymore than our other defenders. In fact I thought that Holgate was our standout defender when he did feature at the start of the season. Davies has also performed OK when he has been given some game time. Browning is on the come back trail. Kenny and Connelly are promising. Walsh and Dowell also. And when are our young forwards ever going to feature. FFS one of them plays for Switzerland. And one is tearing up trees for the England under 23s. And where is Pennington? And let's not forget Galloway and Garbutt.

We all know about these young players. Do people really think that none of them are ready. They will be all mid twenties before Koeman catches on that they are Everton players. And there are many more that we could all have a case for playing.

I'm not saying to throw them all in. But surely a few of them are now better that some of our old plodders.

And how come other teams have no problem playing a few youngsters? And I don't remberber any recently played youngsters letting their teams down. If anything ..they were refreshing. Ours could also be all that .and more. Could they be much worse?

Kieran Kinsella
36 Posted 12/12/2016 at 20:53:33
Kendall I remember being of the "Don't blood kids in a struggling team" camp up until his third go round when he had no other choice. I get it but it begs the question: when do they play?

If the teams doing well we say (Mustafi, etc) be patient, wait your turn we can't break a winning side. If the teams poor we say "now is not the time for kids."

Also, RK makes disparaging comments about U23 level not preparing kids for the EPL. Unsworth meanwhile says loan limitations this year force us to keep more kids since we can't recall loanees.

So is U23s all about making Unsy look good with a winning record? Is Koeman too scared to take a chance? Also what's the point of loans? Walsh had a good one, now he's in U23s

Roger Helm
37 Posted 12/12/2016 at 21:05:42
Softness seems to have got into the club's DNA since the Moyes days. You could criticise the teams he put out for several reasons but you knew they were always up for a scrap, and never gave less than 100 per cent.

I agree with Brian – you only need to look at Ross to see what happens when a young player loses confidence. It is not surprising when you think of what you were like at 20 then imagine 40,000 fans slating every mistake you make.

It shouldn't be beyond the club in January to get in two key players – a big, dominant bastard of a centre-half and a midfielder of the Reid or Keane (or even Savage) mentality to gee up the forwards. It would transform us – and give space to bring in a youngster or two.

Joe O'Brien
38 Posted 12/12/2016 at 21:15:38
So we should persist with the likes of cleverly and lennon in the side! It doesn't make any bloody difference anyway because Koeman doesn't rate them even tho he's only watched them once...

It's great that he's got the excuse that we're struggling that it wouldn't be a good idea to give them a run. Even though, when we were flying it at the start, they still didn't get a look in, except Holgate who only played because Coleman was injured. Then he was dropped abruptly.

Kim Vivian
39 Posted 12/12/2016 at 22:03:11
See Niasse scored again in our 4-1 win over Leicester.
Could do with someone that shit in the first team.
Paul Tran
40 Posted 12/12/2016 at 22:03:49
How about a commitment from the manager to put out a team to try and win a game?

Two up front, and relieving the midfield of players who think a forward pass or movement is punishable by death would be a start. Telling the likes of Holgate and Davies that they're in the team because they're the future AND we believe they can do a job right now.

He's inherited a bad hand, but he doesn't help himself by refusing to use some of the cards he has.

Mike T Jones
41 Posted 12/12/2016 at 23:09:03
Niasse is garbage. So is most of the first team. Koeman may not be some people's answer but the players are average at best in general. If you want him sacked, then fine, welcome to Newcastle. I'm giving Koeman two seasons.
Phil Jeffries
42 Posted 12/12/2016 at 23:12:32
Every time you play Cleverley, my opinion of Koeman drops. When we have young players crying out for an opportunity and he gets the nod... the mind just boggles.

I like Koeman and I'll wait until the start of next season to see what the team looks like. But it WILL be without Lukaku and it will be an extremely new look team almost guaranteed.

Big couple of transfer windows ahead but Koeman must roll either Arsenal or Liverpool.

John Raftery
43 Posted 12/12/2016 at 23:34:57
Interesting that managers with stronger squads such as Pochetinno, Puel and Klopp are happy to give young players a chance while Koeman keeps rotating the same old players who are demonstrably not fit for purpose.

I don't think anybody would expect an 18-year-old to be ready to play 25 games on the spin, but putting one or two in for a few games may just be the catalyst the team needs to improve.

Patrick Murphy
44 Posted 12/12/2016 at 23:36:25
I've read this piece from the Echo a couple of times and I'm confused by it - Is Ronald getting frustrated with the media, the scrutiny, his players or just Everton FC in general. I can see a parting of the ways coming sooner than many of us expected - unless of course he does have a plan to address the numerous issues that his team is having.

Perhaps, we'll be more enlightened by this time tomorrow evening?

Fixing it?

Eugene Ruane
45 Posted 12/12/2016 at 00:08:50
"Koeman calls for more commitment ahead of Gunners clash."

Surprised, I was expecting "Koeman calls for less commitment ahead of Gunners clash"


Not expecting anything (other than a defeat) tomorrow as I don't believe swapping 'him for him' and/or 'that feller for the other feller' will make any difference.

If we are to get out of this 'thing', my belief is that this will take 3/4/5 players.

Players who must be of a certain type.

Physical and/or nasty and/or mouthy and/or people who just fucking hate losing.

We of course need brains at some stage, but for right now, the former is essential.

There is a 'rot' (?) in there at the moment that has to be stopped and (unless I've missed someone) we don't have anyone (available) capable of stopping it.

(someone capable of shouting 'man on!' would be a start).

In the position we're currently in, to spend money on 'gifted' players right now would, imo, be lunacy.

Simply put, we're in a fight, we need fighters.

Dennis Heaton
46 Posted 13/12/2016 at 00:12:11
After coming away from the Espanyol game thinking that was relegation football, then getting some results against the lesser teams, we came up against Norwich which was disaster. The warning was on the wall then that things weren't working.

That was the time that some of the youngsters should've been tried with matches against Bournemouth Crystal Palace, West Ham, Swansea and Southampton coming up, along with a few stick ones that would've given the youngsters a good chance to settle and show their worth.

I was not a fan of Naisse but, with Lukaku not having a decent player alongside him, maybe it is time for the boss to eat humble pie and give him a couple of games before the transfer window is open. I see he has scored again for the reserves; it makes me think that he can't be any worse than what we have on show now.

Eddie Dunn
47 Posted 13/12/2016 at 00:20:28
We all think we know better than the man with the job. I am willing to give him time, and I hope that he will get it right sooner rather than later.

Leicester have been on a bad run, and the amount of Leicester fans on the radio slagging off the manager that won them the league illustrates the fickleness of fans.

All teams go on bad runs, and confidence can drain away. Moyes was getting lots of stick at Sunderland and they suddenly won 3 on the bounce (okay, I know they lost at Swansea!).

Fine margins, and all that a red card for Rojo last week, a penalty for that clown having a piggy back on Saturday and things could look different.

A slice of luck tomorrow and three points will be a nice start. Come on Everton.

Don Alexander
48 Posted 13/12/2016 at 01:25:12
Sadly for most of us grumpy old men who remember the "School of Science" nickname we had when our worries about zits rather than our team's performance kept us awake at night, we now need what Eugene states at #45; "Dogs of War" to coin a phrase.

As in "a pack of" Mr Moshiri, not just two or three.

Vijay Nair
49 Posted 13/12/2016 at 01:43:33
Have a read of Michael Ball's piece in the echo:


I think he's hit the nail on the head for everything that's wrong with the team right now. Hopefully Koeman is listening.

Gary Russell
50 Posted 13/12/2016 at 02:02:40
Ricardo @30 'We are now one of the monied clubs'... are we? We are led to believe we are but as yet, there's no 100% proof. Agree, the background structure with Koeman , Walsh et al are probably big expenditures but the playing staff has not seen any cashed flashed, yet.

As someone said above, Holgate in at right back and moving Coleman up and play Davies, not Cleverley, Lennon or Macca... not asking for 3/4 youngsters and Arsenal is maybe the last game we should try it but at the risk of boring myself with repetitive comments, SHAKE IT UP RON.

The oft quoted line on here of Einstein's, 'Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results' applies to many of us on here with our repetitive suggestions, asks, demands screaming for some change.

Everton are driving me insane!

Jim Hardin
51 Posted 13/12/2016 at 02:46:17
Mike Jones,

Which Newcastle? The one hopelessly sunk in relegation because they stuck too long with a clueless manager who did not have a plan and lost the players? Maybe instead, you meant the one after, who damn near kept them up and is currently first in the Championship, namely Rafa? If it is the latter, then sign me up as that is a manager!

Able to adapt to circumstances and squads? Yes. Able to win things in the EPL and Europe? Yes. Able to turn teams in poor form around with just the players he has (Newcastle, Chelsea)? Yes. Able? YES!

If we can be guaranteed a Rafa, then I say, "What are you waiting for Mr. Moshiri?"

Alan J Thompson
52 Posted 13/12/2016 at 04:32:12
Dermot (#25); The chicken and egg analogy is right.

According to evolutionists, to end up with today's chicken the egg had to come first and that's exactly what we need now, an evolution, and how better to start than the introduction of some youthful enthusiasm.

Unfortunately, for tonight's game we shall probably just see Barkley added to the three defensive midfield that played on Saturday. I've always felt that we've been hammered by Arsenal whenever we've tried to stop their midfield and have performed better when we've tried to take them on at their own game.

Brian Wilkinson
53 Posted 13/12/2016 at 05:17:30
Robles must have run over a Black cat, then reversed back over it. First Howard, now Stek...
Rick Tarleton
54 Posted 13/12/2016 at 09:05:36
Commitment is very, very difficult if you are too weak to compete which was the previous day's soundbite from our "Evertonian" manager.

Perhaps the ability to get the best out of his players would be an asset he could try to foster. He certainly is not enjoying his job and by their body language nor are his players enjoying their relationship with this manager.

Anthony Dwyer
55 Posted 13/12/2016 at 10:20:43
Simple isn't it Ron, call your players weak, say your U23s aren't ready, dismiss Niasse, drop Ross and then call for unity.


Phil Parker
56 Posted 13/12/2016 at 10:23:36
The manager is not an Evertonian. He is a man who showed no inclination to come here, but decided the money was too good to turn down, and the longer term " project" possibly appealed to him, even though he is not known for staying at clubs for long, having been sacked twice and walked three times.

However, his management of the club as of now is disastrous. No player has improved under him, and no players have come through from the U23 team so far, though I live in hope. A great start to the season was ruined by his team selection in the Norwich League Cup game, and laughing when we were second and he was asked could we finish in the top 4 was not clever either. We we have hardly won since.

I thought at least he would get us organized defensively and make us hard to break down, but he hasn't even managed that. He doesn't seem to like most of the players he has inherited, and they don't like him. Not that I care.

The players have let the club down for too long, and major surgery is due. I think the family club ethos has gone as well, with a more business like approach taken at Finch farm. Which is fine with me, as long as things are good on the pitch. Which they are not.

We have to hope that the signings he will make have the right attitude, as Newcastle have been signing players for over-the-top prices and wages for years. But a lot of these players don't seem to care when things are not going right, and Newcastle have been relegated twice in recent years.

I still believe Koeman will do well here, but the journey is painful at the moment. If things do not improve, we must inject pure Everton love back into my club short term,with Joe and Unsy. Hopefully this will not be needed, but this next transfer window is huge, for the club and the manager.

Jonathan Tasker
57 Posted 13/12/2016 at 10:25:13
Everton are 100-1 to be relegated. I am going to the bookies later...

This is the worst set of players we have had in 50 years, managed by a conman – who doesn't seem to care.

I will be amazed if we even get one point from the next two matches.

Eugene Ruane
58 Posted 13/12/2016 at 12:24:00
Jonathan (#57) – 'Managed by a conman – who doesn't seem to care.'

Genuinely curious, what would he have to physically do (that he presumably isn't doing now) to show you he 'cares'?

Craig Walker
59 Posted 13/12/2016 at 12:40:29
We all think we know more than Koeman and could do a better job but yes, okay, datsh futebol.
Jonathan Tasker
60 Posted 13/12/2016 at 15:00:58
Eugene – 58 – it's all in the body language.
John G Davies
61 Posted 13/12/2016 at 16:23:01
I am 100% certain Koeman will make us a better team.His attitude is something this club has needed for 25 years.

Too many managers have accepted 2nd tier players playing in Royal Blue, prodded on with the acceptance the great days are gone.

Not Koeman; he has had the plums to tell them they are not good enough to play for this club,he won't accept mediocrity.

Setting his sights high. And I trust him to get it right.

Anthony Dwyer
62 Posted 13/12/2016 at 23:20:04
Wow, we won! 🙈

I'm truly amazed!!!

Ian Hollingworth
63 Posted 14/12/2016 at 06:46:21
Much better... and I actually enjoyed it for once.

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