Niasse completes loan move to Hull City

I'll be watching some Hull games just to check the guy out... and see what it was that appalled Koeman so much that he literally kicked him to the curb.

"The squad know that some of them have no future at Everton."

That might not be word for word but it's damn near close. Hope we get enough players in during the window so that the players that comment was aimed at don't have to be relied on too much.

It's been 30 years since we showed clear ambition like this, and even if you don't like Koeman, or his methods, he will shake this club up from top to bottom – something many managers would find all too difficult to put into practice.

This is precisely the reason we need a character such as Koeman at the helm during the transition from grateful mediocrity, to a fallen giant getting back on its knees.

I fully agree, mate.

I have to laugh because I can imagine the powers that be telling Honest Ron that they want him to do whatever it takes to get us back up there, not for one minute thinking that the Dutch penchant for taking things totally literally, and not giving a fuck who they upset, would mean that he goes and meets the players, shakes their hands, and as he's doing so says:

"Hello Oumar, nice to meet you, you won't be here long."

"Hello Tom, nice to meet you I wish you well in your next club."

Imagine the players in line waiting to meet him, shitting themselves!!

I'd be very surprised if Ferguson, Unsworth and Royle didn't give Koeman the heads-up that the lad was not up to it; I'm sure Koeman then witnessed this for himself in training.

He was honest with Niasse and told him he needed to move on if he wanted to play; nothing wrong with that whatsoever.

This season, Rom has got 11, Barkley and Coleman on 3 with Mirallas, Barry and Baines all on 2.

We were in 11th place last year after 20 games and this year we're in 7th. In 2015, we were in 13th place with only 21 points after 20 games.

So, whilst Koeman seems to have us with more points on the table and conceding less goals, we are really lacking in goals scored with Mirallas, Deulofeu, Kone and Barkley all down from previous seasons.

So whilst we probably do need a new goalkeeper, centre-half, and left-back, I'd rather focus on getting a few more goalscoring attack-minded players to help Ross.

Shane (#13), you got that right. Koeman could kick a ball hard enough to make it cry. Even 25 years on he probably still has plenty of juice.

"Music to my ears"

It like Sinatra being backed by a symphony orchestra mate. With Aretha Franklin singing backing vocals.

And what's wrong with Koeman going public? Player's and agents do it all the time.

I really hope he jams a few goals in for Hull so they buy him in the summer. Alas I can already see him quietly being sent back to L4 after a short stay...

At least we save £1 million in wages over the next 5 months.

I'd say Rhino played Niasse ahead of them because he earned the minutes by banging in bunches of goals.

I just hope that Niasse, like Cleverley and McGeady, plays well enough to enhance his transfer fee.

How our standards have dropped!

Me? I'm going to leave you to it!

Some fans worshipped the ground Moyes walked on for achieving 7th.

People just disagree on whether the team's problems lie more with the players or the manager. Leave it at that.

Think about it, Koeman tells Unsworth he wants a first-teamer to get some game time for match fitness; Unsworth's going to say no? I don't think so.

Also, Unsworth has been very vocal about Davies, Calvert-Lewin and Holgate, how he rates them very highly and how they are ready for the first team squad, has he ever said that about Niasse? Not that I've seen.

I'd be surprised if he makes the first team after they see him in training. Then he will be back at Everton with his kit bag in the hall way. We should have sent him overseas to a club with minimal TV coverage

After all, seventh is now confirmed as 'Best of the Rest' or , in other words Champions of Premier League Division Two. Even if we are ~20 points behind the worst of the 'big boys'!

As I said, how our standards have fallen.

If he doesn't make it at Hull. It makes you wonder if we'll get any money back on him if we have to put him back in the shop window this summer.

I can't knock Niasse's attitude. How he's got his head down and cracked on in the U23s is commendable after being rejected publically by Koeman.

Does anyone know what happened with that domestic assault charge? Shouldn't imagine that business did him any favours either.

As fans we hope to finish as Champions every season, but that is and has been unrealistic and therefore our ambitions have to be tailored to the circumstances surrounding the club and its rivals.

In August 1987, we had every right to expect a team that would challenge for the top places in the league but within seven years we were fighting the drop. "Never again" we were told and lo and behold just four years later we were at it again – avoiding relegation.

By the time Moyes joined the club any fan expecting Everton to be among the elite would have been fitted out with a new jacket and gained permanent residence in a nice safe room.

The reason that many Evertonions have been relatively happy with "seventh" is because there has been no sustained investment in the squad for most of the last couple of decades.

At the moment we are spending money but that will be tempered when we see who departs in the next six months – personally, I'm expecting the club to cash in on Barkley and / or Lukaku by the start of next season.

If both remain at Goodison after September 1st, the fans and more importantly the owners will demand a return on that investment and Koeman and the players will have to produce far more than the Everton managers and team have done in the recent past. Isn't that what we all wanted?

Kevin, David's hardly going to be singing Niasse's praises if Koeman says stupidly that he's no chance of getting first team football.

That's a reach. If Unsworth thought so highly of him, he wouldn't be at Hull now.

"Koeman tells Unsworth he wants a 1st teamer to get some game time for match fitness, Unsworth's going to say no?"

Koeman very loudly and publicly declared Niasse WASN'T a 1st teamer, in fact had no future with the club. So why does he need him to get match fitness? Why in the world would he order Rhino to use him?

Answer: He wouldn't. He didn't. It was Unsworth's call because Niasse was scoring in buckets. All managers want to win games, and Niasse was winning them.

Of course Rhino and Koeman talked about the player, but I assume that if Koeman has enough respect for Rhino to make the U23s is responsibility, he has enough respect for him to let him use whoever he sees fit. Obviously a first-teamer needing conditioning will be in the lineup, but, just as obviously, Niasse doesn't fit that description.

However, as Raymond says, naturally Rhino's not going to publicly dispute Koeman's assessment. The boss is the boss, and the player's final fate is his decision.

Good luck at Hull, Oumar.

Hoping he starts scoring for fun!!!

I refuse to get into some sort of childish debate with you over Omar Niasse, a man who won the lottery when he was foolishly signed. The last coaching staff and the present, both of whom included Unsworth and Ferguson deemed, he wasn't and isn't good enough, end of story.

Niasse at Hull in the Premier League is brilliant for us as Evertonians, we get to see the lad for what he really is.

Good on him – the man is a winner and he came here thinking he had been sold on a new project. This window proved me wrong and I'm happy to eat humble pie.

Phil, climbing back to the top is everyone's dream. I don't think any Everton fan settles for 7th place but realistically that's about where we are going to be until the board back the manager.

Kenwright needs to be shipped out the club needs to have a winning mentality from top to bottom – Koeman is a good start.

According to the club website, Niasse scored 13 goals. YES, for the reserves, of course!

And I never said a word about him being ready for prime time. Nobody said that. Why are you making stuff up?

Have a cookie and chill out. We've got a game to get ready for.

As for Phils point @24. I'm a partial Koeman admirer cos he's straight talking and I reckon he wants to win things or at least get to the Champions League. The first 6 months have been a bit up and down but we have been mostly solid and I reckon 7th at the moment is okay.

I'm not rejoicing and don't want us to finish there but it'll take time for methods to work, players to come, system that works and players to gel. There has to be patience shown to give Koeman a chance to achieve this. We can't expect it all straight away. We are making tentative steps in the right direction.

For me, judgement times will begin around 18 months into Koeman's tenure. That'll be Dec 17, I'm not saying we sack him then if we're not 1st but I expect a firm idea of where we are heading then.

Ron comes in, no excuses... just "If he wants to play he has to move" doesn't sit right with me. Why single him out when we have a shedload of not-good-enough's that shouldn't have a locker?

2) The terms of the contract were flexible as Everton hired his services to Hull, meaning at the end of the season unless Hull City purchase Niasse that he will automatically return to Everton until his contract expires (to see out his contract for around 4 years).

In the interim, Hull have only removed the burden of Everton paying Niasse weekly pay as Hull have this transferred burden. Everton need a purchaser otherwise.

I've never heard the big man make comments about anyone he's coaching but I for one would like this quite unassuming guy who has never mouthed off and rocked our boat to do well and prosper somewhere else, if not for us.

The way Everton / Koeman have treated Niasse he could well have sued Everton for defamation of his corporate name/ brand. The gentleman barely says a word. Anyone else would have likely attempted to sude Everton for damages.

I can't believe we've loaned him out, fuck of Everton and Koeman – you're all shite!!! 😉

I knew it would come back to bite us on the arse.

Seriously, though, I cannot understand why he couldn't get any look-in at Goodison. He must have done something to really upset someone.

I loved Vaughan as a player, heart of a lion and no little skill. His injuries were caused by his refusal to come out of a tackle.

Out of Vaughan and Anichebe – the 2 strikers who broke out at almost the same time, Vaughan was everyone's favourite and the more obviously talented, but guess who is till playing in the Premier League, and who is in League 2?

Me? I could have been a champion.... Now playing the fool!

One small cameo and you offer that response.

Great a grip of yourself.

There's too much of this acerbic opinion on the site. Yes it's a place to offer opinion but it disappoints me how much anti EFC comments are spouted without reasoning.

I think the smiley winking face is to show that Charlie is having a bit of a laugh!